mitt romney and rick perry and donors wait for chris christie's decision. the new jersey governor learns gets a bit hot underneath the presidential light. and florida, florida, florida. the debate to move up their primary is scrambling the calendar. we'll look at the impact in your new year's plans. and words of the day. ready for this? rick perry has a change of heart. michele bachmann talks about submission again, and ron paul has nice things to say about federal -- yeah. ron paul, federal programs? yeah. this is "daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. i'm glad to know that finally the rest of america understands what us baseball fans knew. the most famous longoria in america should be a guy named evan. the 2012 race is frozen. while everyone waits on chris

christie. that means it's retooling time for the campaign. in a new fox poll, mitt romney has regained his lead. but is he really the front runner? he leads the field with 23%. about the same number he always had. rick perry dropped dramatically sitting at 19%. rounding out the top three and barely trailing perry is herman cain sitting at 17%. combine the 17 and the 19, you have the 36. that tells you the conservative anti-romney vote is still a powerful force. all right. one non-candidate already discovering the betting process is no cake walk is chris christie. been a potential candidate for a day, and already he's getting hit from the right. >> i heard a lot of john mccain in that speech. maybe not a lot, but enough to send up a red flag or too. but rush, are you saying christie's not a conservative?

as far as the republican establishment is concerned, yes. herman cain is a conservative that worries me. perry conservative that worries me. bachmann worries me. santorum. christie is not. >> and this is the rough for christie. welcome to what a presidential primary is like in this conservative betting test in 2012. and this campaign is like nothing we've ever seen in 2008, 2000, 1996. it's different. it's always been out there, been a powerful force. but as rush noted the republican establishment has always won out. will they do that this time and does christie -- as rush put him in, is he okay with that kind of conservatism? is that already a mark against him? we'll see. perry is clearly doing so damage

control. yesterday in an interview with the conservative news outlet "news max" he said opponents of the texas dream act have no heart. >> i probably chose a poor word to explain that. for people who don't want their state to be giving tuition to illegal aliens, illegal immigrants in this country, that's their call. and i respect that. and i was -- you know, i was probably a bit overpassionate about using that word and it was inappropriate. >> perry's wife anita is opening his iowa headquarters there. she fielded questions on immigration and had a more ready and frankly persuasive response than her husband. >> congressman santorum attacked him on the immigration and said what we're saying, governor, is

we don't think it's fair you give the illegal immigrants a break on their tuition. we don't. that child sitting next to my child is paying the same amount. he's not getting a tuition break. he is paying the same amount of tuition my child is paying. >> anita perry also admitted the recent debate hadn't gone well for her husband and had a little advice. >> he realizes the last debate. he realized that from the look on his face. he knew that. so he's going to be better prepared this time. in fact, our son is 28 and he said mom when they prep for the next debate, i want to be there. this is his opportunity to show up. i want him to say -- maybe i shouldn't say that. i don't want to give strategy. >> what's interesting here, this

is a case where the family is basically telling the paid advisors hey, we want to be part of this. we don't want you to mess this up. just hearing that phrase debate prep, we hadn't been told that there was prep going on. interesting to hear and read between those lines. on the trail in new hampshire, mitt romney had a new answer yesterday for what may be his greatest liability. that conservative positions are new. a supporter asked him specifically that question. >> i got to tell you what really bugs me. all these people out there that say you're a flip-flopper. >> let me give you brass knuckles. in the private sector, if you don't change your view you're fired for being stubborn. as winston churchill said the facts change, i change too. what do you do? >> interesting defense there. the private sector phrase. it is pretty clear to me that that must be the best attribute

they have tested in focus groups. because the romney campaign, mitt romney himself, doesn't miss an opportunity to use that specific phrase and that credential to defend himself against various attacks. and the flip-flopper attack, that was a new answer we had heard on that. interesting he used the private sector that you would get fired if you didn't change your mind. finally the republican primary calendar is coming into focus. we think. announced the sunshine state will buck the rnc earlier than expected. to hold on the last day of january. so if florida goes on the 31st, here's the best guess of what the calendar is going to look like. new year's in des moines. the iowa caucus could take place as early as the first thursday like it did four years ago in january. with new hampshire following five days later on the tenth. and nevada on the 17th. south carolina then maybe the

21st. alternately, a january 9th iowa caucus. same night as the bcs championship game. might have a problem with that. then move everything about a week later. that puts new hampshire then on the 17th. nevada on the 24th. south carolina on the 28th. florida on the 31st. what we'll find out in a couple hours is what south carolina is going to do. with florida the 31st, south carolina republicans and particularly those that don't want to give mitt romney a lot of momentum or an easy excuse to skip south carolina are probably going to be hesitant about going the 28th. so they may go saturday has been their tradition. what if they decide the tuesday before that, the 24th? if south carolina goes 21st or 24th you'll see the earlier scenario play out. if they go 28th, might see a breathing room between new year's and iowa. all of these are due in a couple of days.

all right. undercover fbi agents have broken up a plot. pete, you had this -- you broke this news late yesterday afternoon. it was aspirational, but how far did this guy get? >> well, he did a lot of things to carry this plan out. thinking that he was being helped by al qaeda people. but in fact, he was under constant fbi surveillance. he's 26-year-old rezwan ferdaus. he plotted for nearly a year to bomb the u.s. capitol and the pentagon and then to shoot people fleeing from buildings. they say he planned to use six foot long model planes filled with plastic explosives. he took surveillance pictures last may including one of the pentagon. the fbi said he had a strong desire to be a terrorist and thought he was meeting with al qaeda recruiters.

but they turned out to be fbi undercover operatives. he had to borrow money from them to buy an airplane ticket to come down to washington to take his surveillance picture. and they say he never had any explosives. while he did have deadly aspiratio aspirations, he lacked the means to carry out an attack. >> and pete, their ability to track this individual, to basically create this sting to capture him, is this -- does this go into the domestic wiretap? did they say how they found out about this? >> they don't say explicitly. but it's clear they got a source that tipped them off. in these cases people make comments to their friends or say something on an internet chat room that's frequented by people in jihad or they post on the web. then the fbi brings in these undercover people. >> all right. not to toot your own horn more, today's new york times says the

information you wrote about the health care law and supreme court. walk us through it. >> what we said on monday was the justice department's decision no to seek an appeal almost certainly meant that the supreme court would take up the health care case in this come term. then they're going to ask the supreme court to take the case and hurry it on up. it is now up to the supreme court. you've got all the factors in line that would seem to suggest the court will take the case. you've got two different appeals court decisions pending up there that went different ways. one said the plan is constitutional. the other said it's not. you've got all the parties on the case on both sides saying yes. please take this case now. and you have an act of congress which a federal appeals court overturned. all those factors normally would say the supreme court would take the case. i think everybody now would be shocked if the supreme court did not agree to hear this case in the coming term.

what that means is there would be decision on one of the central issues in this campaign coming out in june right as the presidential campaign heats up. >> and oral arguments sometime in the middle of the republican primary. and we know that's going to be about the mandate and mr. romney is concerned about that as well. all right. pete williams, our justice correspondent. always good to talk with you. the road to the republican nomination has taken a detour through new jersey. always caught up in traffic in new jersey. team obama is proposing titanic struggles. so what can the parties do to build support and raise campaign cash, get enthusiasm going? the dnc and rnc are here together to sound off. and education nation. the fight to improve philadelphia's schools. making them safe enough to attend. mayor michael nuter joins me on there. it's a quiet day publicly

for the president. but he does some interviews with some local tv affiliates to push the jobs plan. tennessee, north carolina, and florida. you're watching "the daily rundown" on msnbc. just one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloating. with three strains of good bacteria to help balance your colon. you had me at "probiotic." [ female announcer ] phillips' colon health.

so the presidential candidates are off and running but their supporters are stuck in negates. democrats facing call a titanic struggle. while the republicans aren't sure they like who they've got in the race. it'd be nice to let you guys hammer each other about various things. this is about me, not about you.

so let's talk about how much are you going to ruin new year's and the holidays with this primary calendar? >> i want to know the same thing. >> i think we're all curious here. walk me through. everybody's got to turn in their plans for holding caucuses soon. >> every state has to have their plan with the dates by this saturday at midnight. we're on track to have all those plans. as you know, we expect a final announcement from florida on friday. and the other early carveout states being new hampshire, nevada, and iowa will give -- >> you only had originally four carveout states. anybody that was going to go before march 1st got penalized. correct? >> correct. >> what is the penalty? >> those are rules by both committees.

>> right. bipartisanship. >> exactly. both committees set forth those rules. and a state that is not no compliance automatically loses 50% of the delegates. >> that's the world. >> any state that goes before that time and has a binding primary will lose 50% of their delegates. >> florida is going to lose whether they win in february or january. there's no extra penalty? >> correct. absolutely. the convention is in tampa. >> period? >> period. >> no change on that? >> there is no change. there never would be. that was a set decision. tampa, we look forward to having a wonderful convention. >> brad i want to bring you in here on the calendar aspect. your state parties while you guys work together and in some cases they're not working together with their republican counterparts. state of michigan comes to mind.

you don't want some states to see early primaries? >> that is fair. we hoped to keep this in place. in our states we have other means of -- we can hold caucuses where we would have had primaries to make sure we keep this calendar. but it is unfortunate but we saw this in 2008. >> is there any rule you're asked iowa to abide by how early they go? >> i think the states have to see what's best of them. there are rules that each state says they have to go this many days before another state. >> but allowed less than a week between iowa and new hampshire. >> right. we have a carveout for those and they can work out their -- >> on the delegate thing. any primary that's before april 1st is going to be where --

it'll be proportional. which means if ron paul let's say gets 15%, he'll get delegates before april 1. but after it's whoever gets them all, correct? >> the state gets to decide. they can be proportional or they have the option. >> and the state decides. >> it can be winner take all. >> okay. so that's where this delegate math is complicated. watch out. here it comes. let's talk about that. david axelrod talked about a titanic struggle. part of this has been enthusiasm for democrats. your fund raising was down in august. their fund raising was down in august. the campaigns as well. what are you doing to try to fix this? >> first of all let's talk about th cancel a numr of fund raisers in july. that had a ripple effect in august. we didn't plan for president to

do joint fund raisings for us in august. the republicans continued to raise money throughout the debt crisis. i say. cantor and boehner raising money while they were negotiating with the president. this is going to come down to a choice. it's a choice about whether or not we're going to physical the path that the president has set that has begun to turn the economy around. or we're going to go back to the way the republicans were doing it that got us into this mess. so part of getting the ranks is saying look. we have a choice. as the president said, it's time to stop complaining, and stop crying and get to work. >> you have a base that's enthusiastic about defeating the president. but they're not enthusiastic about the candidate. >> the number of people watching the debates, there isn't enthusiasm to get to know these folks. there is no rush to pick a horse at this point.

as you remember in 2008, this point mayor julia guliani was out in front. with all respect to brad, you look not just at the terms of the money. but in polls like massachusetts, new jersey he's under 50%. you look at the base and day after day we see stories about african-americans, youth, jewish voters saying we're not happy with this president. his base and all around from the coalitions. >> on christie here, are you concerned at all that his flirtation particularly if he ends up not running, but his flirtation diminishes the current field? >> no. i think we have a great field. >> with or without him? >> there is a great field out there right now. people are getting to know them. i think like anything else, people want to know who's in and

who's out before they make a final decision. >> you guys spend a lot of time beating up mitt romney. that tells me you guys must be most concerned about mitt romney. >> not at all. we spend a lot of time beating up people who are beating up the president. mitt romney has a lot of arrows coming at us. we return fire. sean's got bigger problems than the primary calendar. this issue you've raised, there is a lack of enthusiasm. chris christie is not the model. but there's a whole host of elites that don't believe that this current field is what they're looking for. and what you're seeing here developing is the schism between the tea party which is driving the republican primary process, is driving what boehner is doing in congress. and the elites saying we don't think these guys can beat barack obama. >> at the end of the day, this is not an open seat race. this is a president who has a record of 9.1% unemployment, 2.4

million jobs less. >> you're about to channel 2004. this is going to be a referendum. >> you're going to have to put up or shut up. put something on the table better than what you've done. every time y'all come to an election, you blow off this playbook. it has tax cuts for the wealthy, help big oil. not do anything for the middle class. you'll have to offer more than that this time. >> i'd rather be us than them. >> sean spicer, brad woodhouse. would you just get the calendar together. all right. can wall street snap back? we'll get a quick check on the markets before the opening bell. and here's something you probably thought you'd never hear. ron paul defending social programs. wait until you hear how he's doing it, though. first today's question. who was the last president without a college degree? tweet me the answer. the first correct answer will

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rising on watt street. boosted by employment and economic growth. i am joined with the market rundown. we're higher opening, why? >> you mentioned one reason. the first was that the jobless claims number that came out at 8:30 this morning was much more favorable than expected. it fell to 391,000. >> when was the last time it was that low? >> oh, boy. it certainly hasn't dipped down below that level for other than a week or two at a time in several months, chuck. i couldn't tell you exactly. but economists generally point to that 400,000 number as a sign

that maybe there is job growth in the economy. but it has been consistently above that number. and actually trending higher over the past few weeks and months. so right now it looks like the dow may open as much as 200 points higher. another reason, chuck, that it is likely to open higher is germany's parliament. the truth is germany's parliament today okayed its part of an expanded bailout fund for the debt addled countries of southern europe. so that was viewed as positive. also a revision to the national output figures for earlier in the year. a gain of 1.3% as compared with an earlier estimate of 1%. so maybe the economy here in the u.s. isn't as bad as had originally thought. but remember, folks, that where the market opens isn't what matter s matters. it's where it closes that

matters. there's days we've opened up and closed down. >> we've noticed that here. i think the tums usually sitting next to most of the guys who watch this. tyler math sen, thanks for watching this. the rundown will be back in 30 seconds. quick look at what's driving the day. the house will be back in session today to consider a bill that keeps the government funded. the temporary extension would keep the lights on until next week when members return to vote

on a wider measure passed by the senate. parts of alabama's tough new effort to clamp down on illegal immigration go into effect this morning. a federal judge refused to block keeper visions that allow officials to question suspected illegal immigrants. and millions of people will be grabbing a free cup of coffee today as businesses celebrate national coffee day. more than 400 billion cups of coffee are served up each year. second most traded commodity behind oil. if we could only figure out how to fuel cars with it. it would seem that congressman ron paul has never met a government entitlement that he didn't want to scratch. but in iowa he admitted some things are too engrained in the public to change. >> where would you cut? the first place i want to start would be on those that we have taught to be dependent on

government. there's a lot of those programs i don't like. i don't think they should be started. but we have conditioned a lot of people to become very dependent on checks coming from the government. i think the elderly and the children and the sick people. and for us to say there is where we cut and balance the budget, no way. that's not going to happen. >> anthony terrell has been traveling with ron paul. he joins me from des moines. we've been watching this what i would call is slow of evolution of ron paul on the rhetoric when it comes to particularly the social safety net programs. >> right. in that same speech in dubuque he described how there's 45 million people on food stamps then defended the program saying they're out of jobs and hungry so what can you do. he's running on this compassionate message. he said no one can compete with

him as the most compassionate candidate. >> a debate that came up was veterans. his first tv ad was veterans speaking on behalf of ron paul also who is a military veteran. one of two in the race right now for the presidency. saying he's somebody that has protected benefits. >> that's right. ron paul's been running on this military support recently. this came after him and rick santorum had that spar about iran at a previous debate. he's continued to pound home he's got more donations from active duty military veterans than any other candidate. he is pointing to entitlements he will defend. the reason he can defend the domestic entitlements is by bringing the troops home and save trillions. >> so what is the reaction in the audience to it? this is a guy that would argue

four years ago, you wouldn't hear him putting caveats on some of his positions. if he didn't like a program, he would say i don't like this program. the implication being he'd get rid of it. now he's saying i don't like but i'm not getting rid of it. reaction in the crowd? >> i think reality is setting in. four years ago we weren't at 9% unemployment. today those in the crowd have friends and family members out of jobs. so they're relying on these entitlements. so i think the softer stance is resonating with the audience. i've asked them ron paul's message is different. he's for entitlements now. as four years ago he wasn't for the programs. and they told me look, we have friends and family members and neighbors who rely on these. and they find it a compassionate message from congressman paul. they accept that. >> and it also strikes me. ron paul wanted to go mainstream. anthony terrell, we'll check in

again. thank you, sir. >> thanks, chuck. we'll see you. across the country, big city mayors had trying to balance help for struggling schools without kids getting caught in between. i spoke to philadelphia mayor michael nutter about how he's handling that challenge. >> you have this extra challenge that some cities aren't having to deal with as much. that has been this rise of violence in the philadelphia school system. i know the philadelphia inquirer reported there were 30,000 serious incidents that took place in city schools over the past five years. and yet you've got this problem of a shrinking budget having to lay off police officers while you're trying to keep these schools safe. describe the balance in this. >> chuck, certainly that is a challenge. and when you mentioned about the layoffs, that is the school district has had to lay off school personnel. not on the city side. we have a class in the police academy right now.

i don't run the schools in philadelphia, but i appoint a couple members to the school reform commission. but overall i work very, very closely with our schools. these are our children. these are my children here in our city. but shrinking budgets have had an impact on the issue of security. i will say, though, that police commissioner ramsey has detailed a chief inspector over to the school district to oversee their security issues. and actually year to date, last year compared to the previous year we've had a reduction in crimes. but still too many. and we want to make sure our schools are safe. that kids can come and get their education. teachers can teach, kids can learn. and we have a high quality school environment. >> is this is mistake? i grew up in a big city, miami, and the security was the police. and it was police officers that were detailed to schools. as the security. why isn't that the case in philadelphia? >> well, actually the reality is we've had for some time i think

about 78 schools where there are -- there is a police presence both inside and outside the schools. in other schools the school district has a security force. they are of course different than police officers. and we're re-evaluating where those needs may be the greatest. and so there's no aversion to doing that. but we've used a combination of philadelphia police officers and school district security personnel and school district police to create a safe environment. but we're looking at this in a holistic fashion. all 200 plus schools where are their greatest needs. we want a safe school system and city. we made gains but have more work to do. >> obviously one way to grow your city's economy would be to make the school system something where people would want to send their kids. i know you don't oversee it. what is it you can do to help on the margins then to try to do this?

because economic growth in the city, to get people to move back into the city is based on the success of the school system. >> no question about it. that's why at the beginning of my administration way back in january of 2008, i laid out to the public two very important goals for this city. that we had to get an 80 plus percent graduation rate for our schools. and double the amount of people with a college degree in our city. that's why we focus so much on education. again, regardless of whether the mayor is technically in charge of the system or not, the city's future is tied to a high quality education system. leadership starts at the top and it also starts by example. so my child is a public school student and has been from first grade. my wife and i made that decision very consciously and directly. you have to lead by example, one. two, active mayors office of education. our chief education officer

creating a graduation coach program. getting adults involved in the educational life of children. again, constantly talking about higher education. you can't survive in the 21st century with just a high school diploma. the world doesn't work that way anymore. there are things we can do in partnership with the school district, with the superintendent, with the school reform commission, secretary of education. we just keep working and stay focused on the goal. high quality choices for our children. >> how is it you would like to see the federal government and the state government interact with the school system better than it does now? >> one of the ways, it's not the solution to everything but it certainly helps, additional funding to our schools targeted in areas where we really need it. similar to what the president is doing with the american jobs act. make sure we're keeping teachers in the classroom and not laid off and sitting at home. make sure we're focused on

science technology, engineering, and math. make sure kids are going to the school many the first place. the federal government and the state government clearly have a role to play. >> do you worry that harrisburg politics the fact that if republicans control harrisburg they don't feel the need to help out philadelphia as much? >> well, you know, politics always plays a role in education funding no matter where you are. pennsylvania like many other states hit hard by the recession. budgets have been cut. but we need to continue to invest in education not just here in philadelphia but all across the commonwealth of pennsylvania. i think education really is less a democrat or republican issue. it's really about a moving forward issue. it's about investing in our own future. and that's the way we need to address education funding. >> all right, philadelphia mayor michael nutter. thanks for coming on this morning. a quick little update on the dramatic finish to baseball's regular season. tampa bay claimed the al wild card by beating the yankees with

a major come from behind win against their minor league ball club while at the same time the red sox suffered an epic collapse against the baltimore orioles knocking boston out of the playoff race. remember, babe ruth was born in baltimore. and in national league, the braves meltdown finished. atlanta gave up a game-tying run in the ninth falling to the phillies 4-3. while the st. louis cardinals clinched by defeating the houston astros. rivera never brought on to save the yankee game against the rays. but philadelphia went with their first team against the braves. very interesting there. all right. by the way, bud celik no more wild card teams. we'll get into the rick perry immigration fight next with our power packed political panel. but first soup of the day. not the best day for gaspacho.

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comcast new york. and dee dee meyers was for president clinton. i'll start with you. on mitt romney used implying if you disagreed with him you were heartless. he took it back. but was it effective? >> no. it reminds me back with george w. bush trying to educate the republican base that they needed to have a heart as it related to immigration. it seems like deja vu all over again. a lot of conservatives want to like rick perry. however, it appears he doesn't have the horse power in these debates. and also they're offended by him saying that conservatives don't have a heart. >> jackie, looking at that new poll that came out on fox that showed sort of romney not moving. but instead perry dropping and half of his support going to any

other conservative candidate. in this case it's herman cain. to me it shows we're still seeing the problems mitt romney still has in united the conservative base. >> yeah. but i think this is his strategy. saying the same message over and over and watches everybody else fall over themselves and trip and make mistakes. not getting better for him, but also not getting worse. i think he's like -- to borrow another phrase, stay the course. >> it is interesting to see both the post and the times today writing the strategy of i'll beat the guy you don't hate the most. dee dee you have a unique experience. you were with clinton in 1991 at this time. there was pining in the new york city media market. the democratic base wasn't happy with their candidates. they were saying who are these guys? this guy clinton, you know how do you handle that inside a campaign? talking to donors and

supporters. what's your advice to the romney and perry folks. frozen in place while christie decides. >> you have to run your own race the best you can. and that person of course was governor cuomo. and he was kind of the highlight of the democratic party. he wowed the convention the previous cycle. everybody wanted him to get in. they were pining for him. what clinton did was stake out his own set of policy decisions. in contrast with cuomo's. he did get in december 20th or 21st about the same period. the process has sped up so much this seems later. he was -- he felt like a more real candidate in the sense that he was nationally known. he'd been sort of a serious player on the national scene. but he -- i'm sorry. chris christie is a mirage.

>> robert, chris christie, fair point that he's a mirage. seems he's got a national network being developed for him. >> yeah. he's on autopilot right now. if he wants to get in, i believe he'll be the number two on the race. i don't think he'll get in. he's got a lot of damning quotes out there on him. >> rush limbaugh started it. questioning whether he's conservative enough and if the establishment thinks he's conservative enough. >> right. >> stick around. i want to talk about michele bachmann talking about the submission quote again. it'll be interesting her answer. we asked who was the last president without a college degree? the answer, you got this easily. harry truman. we'll be right back. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. [ female announcer ] don't just moisturize, improve the health of your skin with aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. the natural oatmeal formula goes beyond 24-hour moisture. it's clinically proven to improve your skin's health

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need decisions that i didn't like. i had to step back from law school and move with him so that we could go into ministry. i will tell you, i will be honest, there were nights i cried and i just -- i don't understand this. why would i put my dream on the shelf? but i also knew that i needed to defer what i wanted in deference to my husband. >> michele bachmann explained what being a submissive wife means to her. that was at liberty university yesterday. let's bring back our panel. you have written about women breaking the glass ceiling and leadership and trying to become leaders of the free world and the country. answer there that seemed as if you could see the conflict in michele bachmann as she was explaining her answer. >> she is in a conservative christian environment talking to a conservative christian audience and talking about what -- i believe she believes. it is incompatible with being president of the united states. you cannot say i will put my

views, my desires, my needs behind my husband's. who is running the country then? it is not consistent with being president of the united states. it is a perfectly -- she sent titled to her views. many believe believe it. i totally respect her view. it is not for me. but it is incompatible with being president, period. >> robert, how complicated is that for -- the average working woman to hear when they hear something like that who -- who may not be as religious as mitchell bachmann. >> it is a very conflicting thought to have because i think in many ways they probably look at michele bachmann and say you go girl. this is great you are doing this. however, your contradicting yourself. if, in fact -- if you are going to be the leader of the free world and you want to lead us as president of the united states, you showed deference to no one. you are not playing second fiddle to no one. that includes probably your husband. take a page out of andrea

merkel's playbook and you are number one. that's because you are the head of our country. >> it was odd to hear her say -- head shift of the home. at the white house, then, who will run the building? >> i think this -- >> there is a reality here. that is she's -- this thing has really come apart. >> yes. she is having trouble raising money and that's -- i think once we see the numbers start coming out we are going to see just how in trouble this campaign is. even apart from the polls. i mean, i think what she said, you know, the other day, that's one thing. the fact that her -- she's not really showing in these debates well anymore. she had that -- one shining moment she hit rick perry and then -- >> her spin on money was we are not going to be in the red. when you are say suggest may have a dollar. >> let's start with robert.

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good morning. i'm christian jansing. remote controlled airplanes are armed with explosives. a massachusetts man wanted to use them to strike up the pentagon and the u.s. capitol. rezwan ferdaus was working with the fbi. how did they even find this guy? >> they say it was a tip from an informant who first reported that he was expressing interest in jihad and coming up with this elaborate plot to attack the two washington landmark buildings and ultimate plan was to not only fly model airplanes into the buildings but shoot as -- at people as they fled. as you say he was actually under constant fbi surveillance.