and so on a whole range of issues they have been an effective partner with us. what is also true is that our goal of being able to transition out of afghanistan and leave a stable government behind, one that is independent, one that is respectful of human rights, one that is democratic, that pakistan, i think has been more a.mbivalent about some of our goals there. you know, i think that they have hedged their bets in terms of what afghanistan would look like and part of hedging their but is having interactions with some of the unsavory characters who they think might end up regaining power in afghanistan after coalition forces have left. what we've tried to persuade

pakistan of is that it is in their interest to have a stable afghanistan, that they should not be feeling threatened by a stable independent afghanistan. we've tried to get conversations between afghans and pakistans going more effectively than they have been in the past. but we've still got more work to do. and there's no doubt that there's some connections, pakistani military intelligence services have with certain individuals that we find trouble. and i've said that publicly and i i've said it privately to pakistani officials as well. they see their -- their security interests threatened by an independent afghanistan, in part because they think it will ally itself to india and pakistan still considers india their

mortal enemy. part of what we want to do is actually get pakistan to realize that a peaceful approach towards india would be in everybody's interests and would help pakistan actually develop. because one of the biggest problems in pakistan right now is poverty, i will literacy, lack of development, civil institutions that aren't strong enough to deliver for the pakistani people. in that environment, you've seen extremism grow, you've seen militancy grow that doesn't just threaten our efforts in afghanistan but also threatens the pakistani government and the pakistani people as well. so trying to get that reorientation is something we're continuing to work on. it's not easy. [ indiscernible ]

>> we will constantly evaluate our relationship with pakistan. based on is overall this helping to protect americans and our interests. we have a great desire to help the pakistani people strengthen their own society and their own government. i would be hesitant to punish aid for flood victims in pakistan because of poor decisions by their intelligence services. but, there's no doubt that, you know, we're not going to feel comfortable with a long-term strategic relationship with pakistan if we don't think their mindful of our interests as well. i'll make this last question.

amir. >> thank you, mr. president. >> caught you by surprise, huh? >> you did. what should european leaders do to resolve the sovereign debt crisis going forward? and second, how risky is this continued situation to the u.s. economy? and finally, do you feel that the european leaders are negligence in pushing austerity too soon? >> those are good questions. the biggest head wind the american economy is facing right now is uncertainty by europe because it's affecting global markets. the slowdown that we're seeing is not just happening here in the united states. it's happening everywhere, even in the emerging markets like

china, you're seeing greater caution, less investment, deep concern. in some ways, you know, as frustrating as the financial sector has been here in the united states after the lehman collapse, the aggressive actions that were taken right after lehmans, did help us strengthen the financial sector and banking sector in ways that europe did not fully go through. and you know, uncertainty around greece and their ability to pay their debts runs on in the capital markets on you know, the debt that many of these southern european countries have been facing as well as portugal, all

of that has put severe strain on the world financial system. i speak frequently with chancellor murkle and sarkozy. they are mindful of these challenges and they want to act to prevent a sovereign debt crisis from spinning out of control or seeing the potential break-up of the euro. they are very committed to the european project. but their politics is tough because essentially they've got to get agreement of not only their own parliaments, they've got to get agreement with 20 parliaments or 24 parliaments or 27 parliaments and engineering that kind much coordinated action is very difficult.

you know, but what i've been seeing over the last month is a recognition by european leader of the urgency of the situation. and nobody is going to be affected more than they will be if the situation there spins out of control. i'm confident that they want to get this done. i think there's some technical issues they are working on in terms of how they get a big enough -- how do they get enough fire power to let the markets know that they are going to be standing behind euro members who may be in a weaker position. but they've got to act fast. and we've got a g-20 meeting coming up in november. my strong hope is that by the time of that g-20 meeting, that they have a very clear, concrete plan of action that is

sufficient to the task. it will have an effect -- it's already having an effect here in the united states. it will continue to have an effect on our economy because the world is now interconnected in ways that it's never been before. and that's one of biggest challenges that we have post 2008 after this financial crisis, is that america has always been -- well, over the last 20 years, has been the engine for world economic growth. we were the purchasers of last resort, we were the importers of last resort. we would stimulate our economies and our american consumers would buy stuff around the world. if they got into trouble, they could always say, we're going to sell to the u.s. well, we're not going through a situation where families are cutting back and trying to

reduce their debts. businesses are more cautious and the u.s. government obviously is has its own fiscal challenges. we've got to make sure we're living within our means, although we have to do it gradually and not in ways that immediately affect a fragile economy. what that means is europe is not going to be able to export its way out of this problem. they are going to have to fix that problem and part of the goal that i've been trying to promote for the last two years and i'll repeat at the g-20, more balanced economic growth worldwide. we've got to get into a post tour where the u.s. is always going to be a good market and we'll welcome goods around the world but we have to be selling goods around the world. we can't just be running up our debt in order to help other folks' economies, we've got to

have as not only families and businesses and our government, we've got to make sure that we're being prudent and we're producing here in the united states. by the way, that's what's going to create strong middle class jobs here in the united states. i think part of what's going on for the country generally is this sense of, you know what, a lot of that debt that had been built up prior to 2008, that we were living on borrowed time because the under lying fundamentals weren't as strong as they needed to be. that's why not only do we have to put americans back to work in and out, but we've also got to keep on performing our education system so it's producing the highest skilled graduates in the world. why we have to keep on investing in basic research and science and make sure we're rebuilding our infrastructure and got to have a smarter energy policy because that's a huge source of us having import from other

countries instead of being able to export to other countries. all of those things are going to be important. and all of those things are going to be challenging and hard. right now we've got the problem of putting people back to work. that's why congress needs to pass this jobs bill. and last point i'll make, if bill is right and everybody on capitol hill is cynical and saying there's no way that the overall jobs bill passes in its current form, we're just going to keep on going at it. i want everybody to be clear. my intention is to insist that each part of this, i want an explanation as to why we shouldn't be doing it. each component part, putting people back to work, rebuilding our roads, putting teachers back in the classroom, tax cuts for

small businesses and middle class families. tax breaks for our veterans. we will just keep on going at it and hammering away until something gets done. and i would love nothing more than to see a congress act so aggressively that i can't campaign against them as a do nothing congress. all right. thank you very much, everybody. >> president obama wrapping up his morning press conference. this is the first news conference since the president announced his $447 billion jobs bill. earlier in september we have assembled a megamind panel to talk about this. ed shultz, dylan ratigan and mikevy quer ra and former labor secretary robert reich. the narrative that the president

is giving, obama is for jobs and the right is an obstructionist. >> keep on going. this is one of the best press conferences he has ever had. he's on message and on point. he is telling the senate if you don't vote for this, you need to go home and explain to your constituents what's bad about it. it has everything in it that the republicans have advocated in the past, tax cuts for workers and tax cuts for small businesses. i think it is a home run for the president. he kept coming back to it. it's about jobs and jobs right now. he also outlined what the republicans have been saying in the meetings that he's had with them about things they wanted to do which are good long-term things he has agreed to. but where is their plan right now? they don't have one. and i think the president drove that home today. >> ed, does it go far enough? >> i think it goes far enough right now. it's going to be paid for, $447 billion the president also stepped up today and asked

millionaires and billionaires and threw himself in the group saying i've got to pay more. we've got to ask them to do their fair share. it will not add to the deficit. he's challenging the american people, challenging the polls and challenging the republicans, show me your plan, by the way, get it scored by the same independent economists that say my plan is going to work. i think it's a great moment for the president and the country and i think the country is on this story. it's about jobs, it's about now. >> dylan, i've been lucky enough to have you onset the last half hour. >> can i ask you a couple of questions? part of me agrees with what you just said, particularly the alignment -- i think we all feel the president is finally stepped out and said and identified the issue we have to address and is putting himself at risk politically in order to advocate it in a way we all have tremendous respect for and have been waiting for. here's where i run into questions and i'd be interested in how you resolve it. you and i both know that 20% of

america is unemployed, that's 60 million people. if you take the president's number, 9% of the country is what he said in the press conference is unemployed. that's 25 to 30 millio$30 milli. what frustrates me as i look from a political standpoint as an american and journalist, i have two political parties, i have a republican party who's only objective is to make sure there's no jobs decree atdcreat this guy look bag and president obama could not be better intentioned and more i am passioned and committed but the best case scenario is 1.2 million jobs, which is less than 3% of the problem. it's what they call on wall street a delta. if you come with a solution for a problem -- if i go to you, i need a billion of something and you come back to me with 5 million of them and the other guy says i want none of them and my choice is 5 million and zero, i'm obviously in favor of the

guy who wants 5 million or in this case 1 million. but don't i and the rest of america have a right to be frustrated with the entire apparatus for its refusal to acknowledge the size of the problem and address it on a scale that will solve it as opposed to in a way that gets either a million jobs for obama to get re-elected or torpedos a million jobs in order to get the republicans in, good for their power balance but does nothing to address the underlying issue of 30 to 60 million unemployed as a result of an auction for trade policy an auction for tax policy that obama is a victim of. this is not an indictment of the man. we have an auction for policies that dictate what creates tens of millions of jobs and these people are locked in a battle between a good bunch of people that want to create jobs as an optical progression and a bad bunch who want to get power. >> does it address the delta? >> you're not going to do this

overnight and the president has been upfront about this all along and also willing to put his political capital on the line with his own base saying we'll have to make tough cuts. in business there's a one-year plan, five-year plan and ten-year plan. >> yeah. >> you're not going to put the whole enchilada on the table at one time and wave a magic wand -- i didn't interrupt you, dylan. >> sorry, i want to address that. >> jo care what you want to address -- >> i'm not upset, i apologize, i don't mean to upset you, i apologize. >> time out. let's go. ed? >> do i have the floor? >> you do. >> okay, thank you. the president has put forth a plan that will put several million people to work right now. >> 1.2 million. >> it is a start. where's the republican start? you want the whole thing to -- >> did you hear what you said. >> i'm not going to be interrupted by dylan. >> we'll let you go back to the radio show. robert reich, former labor

secretary in president clinton and listening to what president obama had to say about selling this jobs bill on the hill. what's your take? >> well, he said all of the right things. the problem and the frustration i have is number one, his style was so subdued. there was not very much indig nation, give that we have so many people unemployed and that this is the worst economic crisis since the great depression, i would have wanted president obama and it's not the first time that he disappoints a little bit on the indignation scale, but i would have wanted him to be a little bit more forceful in terms of the scale of the problem. secondly, just to go back to what dylan was saying a moment ago, what his proposal amounts to is really very modest. what he could say so clearly to the american people, almost did, is that this is a beginning, but this is not nearly what we need to do. the third thing that i was slightly frustrated by is that he got -- he got off track, when he talked about the european debt crisis as being the major

headwind we now face in this country, that's just not the case. i mean, that plays into the republican view that our demand, our consumers, our workers who are so -- who are so overwhelmed in debt and job losses and lower wages, they can't buy, that's the major problem for this country right now. and the republicans refuse to acknowledge it. it's not europe. it's right here. it's our workforce. and that is the major problem we face. >> mike, i want to bring you into the conversation, explain to us the different tone of questions that the president had to take on? because it started out with the jobs act and moved into occupy wall street and the fact that no one is being prosecuted for the fraud that took place. >> let me follow up on what secretary reich and dylan was saying, the biggest optical progression has been more of a regregs in terms of jobs. tomorrow is that magical friday when we get the new jobs numbers. while everybody is not holding

their breath because the president's own economists have predicted the jobless rate is going to remain above 8% well through next year, averaging on into the november election, a lot of people are going to be looking at that here at the white house hoping that it at least ticks down. this press conference is an extension in what the president has been doing in a different venue ever since he gave that speech before a joint session of congress. and under deniably it happens in a political context and that's why the president came back to bill's question at the end. he asked, mr. president are you campaigning or are you negotiating? are you campaigning against a do nothing congress ala harry truman or sincere. the president obviously ready, if congress does something, i can't run against a do-nothing congress. the attitude here at the white house now as we enter this undeniably political season post labor day, just because republicans object, it doesn't

mean it's not a good idea economically and politically. >> when we talk about the fact that as robert reich was saying, this might be considered to be modest. isn't that a good start when he's up against a do nothing congress. >> i didn't mean to frustrate ed, i feel bad about that. i think robert reich characterized it perfectly. the president is wonderfully pushing in the direction everybody wants to push, which is to create work and prosperity in america. i think that the frustration people like myself and i can't speak for the former labor secretary feel, is if you approach a problem that is a 30 million jobs problem and you harness the energy that is available to a man in a position this man is in, the president of the united states, and don't have the courage to stand before the american people and say, listen, this is -- this is the size of the problem that we face. i cannot solve this problem by

myself. i want to enroll everyone last of you americans to help me address this issue, which is we together need to create 30 million jobs in order to preserve and expand our prosperity. what do you think the barrier to that messaging is, mr. secretary? >> well, i'll tell you one of big problems here, i don't think there's any barrier to that message. one thing the president could have emphasized more, i wish he had, is that ben bernanke says, republican appointee, head of the fed, we are on the brink, we are on the cusp of going into a double dip recession. most americans have not gotten out of the first recession in terms of being a jobs recession or this is a jobs depression. and also, we have the risk right now, if the republicans hold absolutely dig in their heels that we will not have an extension of unemployment benefits, we will not have an extension of the payroll tax

cut, in other words, the government and government spending will c very time we're heading into possibly a double dip and we've got all of these millions of americans unemployed. this is just simply -- this is a situation that cries out for a president to say, no, i'm not going to take it, the american people are not going to take it. and i am going to leave the american people in a campaign against this do nothing republican congress. republican house. >> we'll have to leave it there. >> gentlemen, thank you. thanks also to former labor secretary robert reich, ed shultz as well, i want to promote, we have a fired up host, you'll seal at 4:00 p.m. today. dylan ratigan, and then the ed show live at 10:00. another fired up broadcaster you'll see tonight. craig melvin picks up our coverage next with more on the death of apple founder steve jobs. we're back right after this.

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i'm craig melvin, apple fans around the world are mourning the death of steve jobs. tributes started pouring in. outside the apple headquarters there and in japan, a special tribute, a candlelight vigil created by the ipad. a creative genius, founded apple and took a huge bite of the personal computer business. as john forte reports, his story has an unlikely beginning. >> steven paul jobs was born in san francisco in 1955. given up by birth parents, he was adopted by a family in the heart of silly con valley, he dropped out of college and teamed up with a friend to billed a new kind of computer, one that anybody could use.

the company they founded was the first to make computers truly personal, at a time when pcs were green text on black screens apple brought graphics and the mouse. at a time of boxes, it brought design. along the way, jobs reinvented music with a gadget called the ipod. >> i have it in my pocket. there it is right there. >> and from there, went on to reinvent the phone. >> i think this is where the world is going. >> reporter: apple's total market value reached about $340 billion. its valuation is neck in neck with exxon-mobil at the top of the heap for global companies. those are just numbers. by the time jobs was done, he set a new standard for geeks, dreamers and business schools everywhere. built the most valuable companies and brought the industries to their knees. but jobs' changing physical

appearance as we announced one triumph after another was a post to his health problems as i tunes took off, he announced he had had surgery for a tumor on the pancreas. he took a six-month leave of absence and got a liver transplant. >> i have a liver of a mid-20s person. and i wouldn't be here without such generosity. >> reporter: after the ipad's blockbuster holiday season, he said he would stop away again. we saw him as apple launched the ipad 2 and its icloud initiative but then jobs announced his resignation saying he could no longer perform his duties as apple's ceo, a creative tight titan of american business, survived by his wife lorraine and four children. >> that was john forte reporting there. do you know how apple got its name? >> according to the 2003 user

guide, steve jobs was eating an apple at a time they were trying to come up with a new name for the company. jobs decided if they couldn't come up with a better name by 5:00, they would call it apple. the rest is history. natalie morris is a technology journalist. natalie, ipod, ipad, iphone, all the brain children of steve jobs. but he also made the mouse a household object, created a virtual music store that sold 16 billion songs so far, that swiping screen, gave us that as well. what happens to apple innovation now? >> well, you know, i work with apple employees a lot and i always get the sense that steve jobs has been successful in imparting his culture and his ideas into the people that he's chosen to work for him. i was at the apple event on tuesday and i really did feel the presence of steve jobs. even though we all knew he was too ill to attend himself.

i felt to myself, i felt a lot of em path because i knew how much it meant to him to be there and the fact he couldn't, must have broken his heart. and the fact that he passed the next day, i think was very poignant. i feel like there's a lot of steve jobs emanating around the bay area and there's a lot of his leg say that will continue. he was so met tick house in imparting his message. >> we heard he had a five-year plan in place. what can you tell us about that? >> i mean, we don't really know what his plan could have entailed but we do know he was aware of his on mortgae talty, product lines are going to continue to evolve in the next five or ten years. the product line that's going to hit the market now, the product line for christmas, is solid, there's no competition to the ipad. there's very little competition to the iphone. these are the gadget people want. these are the gadgets that steve jobs considered to be magic.

he was a technology executive first and foremost but he felt that technology was the way to realize our dreams and empower us. look at pixar, a place that creates magic, he saw technology as the way to get there, the way to take your dreams and imagination and realize those things. >> last question really quickly here. the new ceo, he made that new iphone announcement two days ago. does tim cook ever become anything akin to a steve jobs or is he always going to be the guy that followed steve jobs? >> of course that is really hard. we saw michael eisner suffer from that, he wasn't walt disney but a great businessman and imaginative person. i think that tim cook does have a lot of what steve jobs has. he's char is mattic and not hysterical but he has some witt. he's he's a good presenter. first and foremost he's a really good businessman and that's what steve jobs had.

he was never -- hysterical or wasn't someone -- when you walked into the room you knew he had something. is tim cook the guy that can imagine the ipad? i'm not really sure about that but i think that because that's been imagined he can continue to implement those imaginations. >> natalie morris, thank you so much. appreciate your time this afternoon. >> thank you for having me. we turn to politics, will she or won't she? that's been the questioning following sarah palin and whether she'll run for president. i'm sure you heard, she won't. she made the announcement the day after chris christie made his announcement. jonathan capehart, good afternoon, thanks for joining me. >> good afternoon. >> let's hear sarah palin say why she's not running. take a listen. >> really? you don't need a title to make a difference in this country. i would go back and forth about whether now is the time and if i

say no to the opportunity that's in front of me, be it running for office now, well politically speaking, will i die? will i be ineffective? i know it's the right decision and i know i can join others and be effective in helping change what's going on in our country. >> jonathan, we'll start with you on a scale of 1 to 10, with one being a little surprised and ten being not surprised at all, how surprised were you? >> how about an 11, craig? i've been writing since last april, april of 2010 that sarah palin was not going to run for president. that she was more interested in being a best selling author or reality television star, a hit on the speaking circuit. but when it comes to the hard work of being a national political leader and particularly a presidential candidate, she wasn't doing any of the hard work. >> she was doing the hard work, jonathan, she was going to iowa, going to early primary states.

>> but was she going a as possible candidate or going to sell books? was she going to sell the brand that has become sarah palin? >> i think a little bit of both. yes, she was selling a brand, if you're thinking about the presidency, you go to pel la, iowa. she hinted in june she wanted to be more of a private citizen. she's a serious presidential contender at one point, a former vp nominee, a major figure in the republican party, long national question has been answered but this is someone who was considering running. >> go ahead, jonathan. >> the point, if i can finish the point i was making, myself and other republicans were saying to sarah palin, take a step out of the spotlight, spend some time to study, learn all of the issues and then come back out and state firmly and clearly where you are on all the issues of the day. she did not follow that advice at all. >> jonathan it sounds like what you're alluding to what others

have said, what you just alluded to, was she ever -- was she smart enough? did she have the chops to be a legitimate presidential contender? >> look, i think she -- sarah palin is a star. there is no question about it. she has that, the x-factor that a lot of people, most people don't have. the problem is she did not marry x factor with the hard work needed to make herself truly a political contender. imagine if she disappeared for a year to bone up on financial matters, the economy, foreign policy and then stepped out onto the national stage first time and given a speech on any of those issues, she could be at the top of the ticket. >> could she have done that, robert? >> she did disappear when she quit her job in alaska, she's been making economic speeches and political speeches and been

a major fundraisers anointed a top tea party types -- we can look and say she didn't do enough. she has made policy speeches within the last year. yes, is it not that surprising she made this decision? sure. at the end of the day it was someone mitt romney and rick perry, they were worried because she would have been a candidate. >> how much sway does she still have with conservative voters and will she be a king maker? >> in a different way. chris christie, when he said he wasn't going to run, a lot of his financial backers are going towards mitt romney. sarah palin doesn't have that financial heft. she has appeal and it will be an important factor. >> jonathan? >> marginal, craig, marginal. >> jonathan capeheart, robert costa, always appreciate you, come back. >> quick look at the markets right now. you can see there the dow up

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day eight in the trial of michael jackson's doctor just got underdy way, an investigator with the coroners office gathered evidence at jackson's home. wednesday prosecutors played the full recording dr. conrad murray made of michael jackson just six weeks before the singer's death. on that recording, michael jackson, opening up about his younger years. >> i didn't have a childhood. i had no childhood. heal the world. we are the world. will you be there? the lost children. these are the songs i've written because i hurt, you know.

i hurt. >> joining me in the studio now, legal analyst, and former sex crimes prosecutor. again, another recording there of michael jackson being played again obviously the king of pop there under the influence of something. why was dr. murray seemingly recording his patient when his patient was so clearly out of it? what did he hope to accomplish when he was doing it? >> that's really one of ultimate bottom line questions. we really don't know what he wanted to accomplish. and if we really look at that may 10th recording, in all of its glory, it really is a very depressing sight. nobody really understands why dr. murray recorded it. we also hear dr. murray's voice on it. and one of things we learn from michael jackson is michael jackson is talking about his deprived childhood and it could also be seen to be hurtful to

michael jackson's own family. >> here we are approaching the end of the full full week of testimony. what has the prosecution accomplished so far in the case? >> the prosecution has had a banner week, craig. the prosecution has shown that they have someone who was not only under the influence at the time back in june 25th, but as far back as may, with prescription drugs from dr. murray. what they've also shown is that the time line that was set up as dr. murray testifies about what happened with his patient michael jackson, really does show a doctor who was abandoning his patient, who was involved with thinking more about his love life than he was about caring for michael jackson. >> you mentioned the love life, the prosecution played that tape yesterday after parading three of dr. conrad murray's girlfriends on the stand. how effective was the juxtaposition of a patient obviously in need of help, with a doctor who seems more preoccupied with these women,

texting and talking on the phone? >> very effective indeed. when you look at the prosecution, it's really a wonderful thing. almost like leading a orchestra, they build up and come down. then what you have here is seeing someone who's leading a rather frivolous lifestyle to stay the least and texting his girlfriends, taking phone calls, making phone calls, to cell phones and you have someone who is on the verge of death and then expires. it's a terrible juxtaposition. >> thank you so much. as always, we appreciate your time. >> just ahead, president obama reacting to the occupied wall street protests that have been popping up all over the country right now. my doctor told me calcium

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the president said everybody needs to pay their fair share, including millionaires and billionaires. one place you can bet that resonates is lower manhattan. joining us from that location, mara, good afternoon. >> reporter: good afternoon, i went around and spoke to some people here about the president's speech and his message and a lot of people had not heard it because they don't have tvs here, they are in a little bit of a bubble and engaged in other things in their afternoon march and protest and things like that. when i shared with them what he said, especially about this particular movement, people were

very pleased he addressed it at all because they felt it elevated their cause by virtue of the fact that the president of the united states took time to mention it. now, in terms of what they have going on here today, it's a pretty low key day. every day since the started twice a day, there have been daily marches to wall street, just a few blocks away. they are doing the same thing again here today. they are having some logistical meetings to figure out how to move forward. we did get a flyer about an event that's going to happen today. a student converge ens they are calling for tomorrow afternoon. they are starting to look ahead a little bit to what's coming up next. of course, there are these protest that's have sprung up all over the country. the movement seems to have grown from here and spread out. we're seeing action in d.c., today there are events planned in texas, philadelphia and new jersey. all of that is taking place. in terms of their organization, something i found remarkable being out here this week, every day there are noticeable signs

of their organization becoming more and more refined. they have put up tables to answer questions about press. they are taking in dozens of boxes of shipments every single day, donated supplies from all over the world. they catalog it and figure out how to distribute that. so in terms of the organization, which is something that was criticized from the beginning, the fact there were no leader and loose structure, they are starting to refine that. >> looks tlik they are in this thing for the long haul. we appreciate your time. >> i'm craig melvin, i'll see you back here noon tomorrow, noon in the east at least, 9:00 a.m. out west. up next "andrea mitchell reports." we'll see you tomorrow. ♪ that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm [ male announcer ] for half the calories -- plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8.

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