news accounts show that the law is driving illegal immigrants out of the state and indeucing parents to take them out of school. they call it a blunt instrument and said not only it will impede full enforcement, but here's the new argument. it said this will create concerns for states nearby to which illegal immigrants are deporting themselves. that's the thing they hadn't argued below. they said simply that the state cannot devise a scheme to drive everybody out of the state. they fail to carry papers that requires the police to detain anyone that may be here illegally. they also require public schools to track the children of all illegal immigrants. theidate could be used to go after the parents.

it's just data collection to get numbers about how many children of illegal immigrants are attending public schools, but it's having the affect of having parents withdraw their children. this is exactly what they intended to do and wanted to send a message that immigrants are not welcome in alabama, but they can't do that in a way that goes against federal law. they asked the court to put a hold on it and the next is for the state to respond and the court will decide what to do. >> pete williams with the latest on that. leading the news for us here on the "news nation," u.s. and coalition forces launching operation enduring freedom and now forces are poised to pull back from the frontlines. in a statement released, president obama said "after a difficult decade, we are publicly ending today's wars from a position of strength. as the rest of our troops come home from iraq this year, we have begun to drawdown forces

and transition security to afghan people." living in and reporting from afghanistan for the past three years, we go live from kabul. tina, the goal 10 years ago as we know was to drive elements that would wage terror attacks on the u.s. out of that country. what evidence have you seen in that progress as we look at 2011? that goal has been achieved. >> reporter: richard, when you talk to the commanders here on the ground, al qaeda is no longer an issue. that was the main target when the u.s. forces came into afghanistan in 2001. al qaeda ran across the border and the figures in afghanistan right now of al qaeda operatives is over 100. that's not much compared to what

was here prior to the american invasion, but there new enemies. the hakani network that is just familiarized to the american public and a name that is very well-known here in afghanistan among the u.s. and the nato military. that is the main enemy when you see the suicide bombings and the car bombings. that has increased and they are killing the nato forces. that's the sign of really slowing down. >> put this in context that you have been reporting from afghanistan. is peace close? is it better or even possible? >> that's a really difficult question to answer. i came to afghanistan in 2005 and when you speak to the people and the westerners who have lived in afghanistan since the beginning of the war, they will

tell you that the situation actually did improve. from 2001 through 2004. it was when america's attention shifted to iraq that the situation here deteriorated drastically. that's why we are seeing what we are seeing and seeing a war that is raging currently ten years after. when you talk to afghan analysts and experts, they tell you because afghanistan was the forgotten war that the war didn't really restart until 2009. that's why the nato and u.s. forces are here and they have a long way to go. this is not going to take a couple of years to fix. it took several years to deteriorate to the way it is right now. from the people i talked to on the ground, they say it will take longer for the situation to stabilize, but it needs to be stabilized. >> as always, great reporting. thank you so much for the latest as we watch the 10-year anniversary. he's a long time news military analyst. i want to start with another

quote from the president. he said despite the enormous challenges that remain in afghanist afghanistan, we pushed the taliban out of strongholds and security forces are growing stronger and the afghan people have a new chance to forge their own future. is he right or is it too rosy? what do you think? >> richard, we are in such a dilemma, it's beyond belief. 16,000 kill and wounded and $10 billion a month. 2/3 of the american people do not want to continue in engagement in afghanistan. having said that, i have been in and out since the start of the operation. things are better now than the chaotic and cruel place that we saw in the early years. the problem is, what's going to happen? we have 150,000 nato troops on the ground. by next summer, we take out 30,000 american troops. we have an afghan army.

the police are a disaster, but at least we are trying to work on it. is it likely by next summer that we can sustain a major withdrawal and have a situation continue to improve. the jury is out. looks dubious. >> we look at hundreds of thousands of troops that serve and now as we look at the timeline for them to withdraw, we look at the tough issues that have to deal with. the opium war and the other challenges that were just mentioned. all said, what would you say is positive thatty that will leave behind when the last troop leaves afghanistan? >> if we come out in 2014, one positive thing they will have been exposed to a decade or longer with the american troops. with their kindness and engagement and trying to rebuild the economy. by and large, the people are grateful for it. the question is, given the karzai government, they looted

the bank of billions of dollars and took it out of the country and karzai's brother was involved. how are we going to leave a competent engaged government of integrity that will maintain internal security given active sanctuary in pakistan in particular? again, today we are better off by far than four years ago. what's going to happen if we pull out largely in the coming couple of years. >> the 10-year anniversary of the war in afghanistan. we are also following developing news, what could be a critical day in the manslaughter trial of michael jackson's doctor. these are live pictures where scott smith has just taken the stand. any time, what we are doing is waiting to hear conrad mury in his own words about what happened the day that jackson died. the prosecution is getting ready to play an audio tape of

murray's interview with detective smith that very time. it's never been heard before in public. we hear it and we can bring it to you and you will hear some of that. earlier today the defense questions the toxicologist about why he was so focused on propofol in the investigation. >> you came to a quick judgment that propofol was the most important drug in the case, didn't you? >> yes, i did. >> did you think lorazepam was not significant in this matter? >> objection. >> overruled. >> i think it is important, but not the red flag that caught my eye. propofol in any case we handle is important. probably more important than many of the other drugs we deal with. >> joining me now is defense

attorney john burris. we look at this tape we are about to hear more details from what conrat murray said. how crucial might it be to the case that we are seeing today? >> i think it's extraordinarily important. what you are going to get in statements from the doctor about the event that took place and i'm sure they think he is seeking to cover up and try to justify and suggest that he acted properly and it will be inconsistent and contradict the physical evidence they have. from the prosecution's point of view, it gives the jurors an opportunity to hear his efforts in trying to cover up his conduct as it relates to michael. >> what's your assessment when you look at how the investigators have been doing. you have the syringe and it was that of the coroner's investigator. also you have the revelation

that the information was not done yard. are they doing this in a good manner at all? >> apparently the investigation was not done in a high level of professionalism and what the defense is trying to suggest is that because the investigation was not done in a high level of professionalism, you cannot trust what they did. as a consequence, they want to say that the evidence was contaminate and if it is, you have to throw out all of the evidence. the defense strategy is don't trust this investigation at all. it was not done at a high level. they misused it and put it in a wrong spot. that's an important aspect. >> we will see how it pans out. we are waiting for the tape. conrad murray and the discussion with police. we get that and will have that for you here on msnbc. president obama saying job creation is number and better

than expected employment report may help swing plans to get americans back to work. even though unemployment is stuck at 9.1%, 100,000 americans went back to work and revisions showed more growth at the end of the summer. republicans are already reacting to that report. take a listen to this. >> there is a different report that's out this morning. a report from the department of labor. eyeless to say the news is not good. after three years of false hopes and broken promises, americans continue to be asking where are the jobs. it's high time we trust the american people we liberate the economy from the shackles of this government. >> angry americans across the country joining the occupy wall street protests. this is from minneapolis. similar to protests in new york, boston and los angeles. people are voicing their frustration over the distribution of wealth in this

country. one man who has seen these protests and down there yesterday in new york, she the president of river twice research and the daily beast contributor. let's throw down the numbers. 103,000 new jobs were created according to what we hear from the government. >> all the reports are statistical creations, meaning it's not like we went out and counted 103,000 new jobs and 45,000 of them unfortunately from the optimistic perspective were verizon worker who is had been on strike returning to work. it's not like there was actually 100,000 new jobs created. there was something in this for i don't know anybody figures it's essentially a static reality. this economy has ceased to destroy jobs. not yet started to create jobs. >> it was almost double the 57,000 we saw in the last report. a bit of reason to stay positive. >> in a workforce of 130 million

people. that's around there. >> i want to play the bit of sound for you from alan greenspan. listen and we will get your response. >> if europe was not out there, we had the same problems we always had. basically construction in the united states. we would not have the threat to the overall economy. >> if we look at what's happening in europe, is the united states, is the united statissue? that concern we enough based on the effect on jobs here in this country? >> i think he is entirely correct. we would have the employment and the challenge of job creation regardless of whether or not europe were booming or busting. it's yet another head wind. >> another lay sner. >> and also a problem for future spending in the united states. >> the american jobs act still a key piece of legislation that the president is pushing right

now. he said this earlier and i want to play this out for you. >> there is no question that the economy has slowed and job creation has slowed. we need to take action to do something today. should washington just wash its hands and do nothing? the president believes we cannot do mog. >> as you know, big debate in washington about the jobs bill. is this idea that he is talking about resonating with voters across the country? you were down there and occupy wall street yesterday. >> it's not resonating with the people in the movement and it's not resonating with the movement that is the sing et most passionate. any job creation that the government could do would require massively more effort and spending than what the president proposed.

a lost this is political theater and an election season. i wish i weren't sowning cynical about the realities, but given the challenges this economy faces and the perspective government response, it's very difficult to get up and cheer any of these proposals as they stand. >> hopefully something will make its way through. bigger than 103,000 is what you are saying. >> that's not on the current horizon. >> joining us today and talking about the jobs report that came out today. >> i did not do this. >> the mother of a missing 10-month-old baby defends herself after she and her husband are not cooperating with the investigation. >> what may be the first of its kind request. lawmakers are asking president obama to turn over some of his e-mails. we will tell you why. prince harry touches down in the united states. details on what he will be doing on the west coast for the next two months.

we have major developments on tape. for the search for a missing baby. the parents of lisa irwin are no longer cooperating with investigators. something the parents firmly deny. lisa's mother said police told hershey failed a lie detector test. >> they said i failed. i continue to say that's not possible. because i don't know where she is at, but i did not do this. >> lisa's father said he has not been asked to take a lie detector test, but would be willing to do so. they explain why they say he and

lisa's mother are no longer cooperating. >> we were at the station yesterday being interviewed again and i had just reached my boiling point and asked them, guy, i can't can't do this any more today. i can't answer any more questions. we asked to leave. then the next thing was the press conference yesterday evening. >> our crime reporter joins us now. good afternoon. when you look at the back and forth between the parents and the police and he said i can't handle any more questions as well as the fact that the wife failed the lie detector test, what do you make of that? >> the family deals with this differently. sometimes families come out and

address the media and sometimes they don't. if you remember in the kyron horman case we didn't hear from the family for about ten days. you have so many factors coming into play. these parents came out and have been supportive of the media and joined forces with law enforce am. they even said we are here for you. when i spoke with the captain, he said my response is that's great. let's team back up again and keep trying to dig out the information and dig out bring her home. they are on day four, what i was told today is it's just like they started at the beginning. >> good point. the focus is this little girl. relatives are saying police are trying to put the mother against the father. is this standard practice? the optics could look sketchy

after a while. >> every department handles things differently. i can say in this case this department is going-over things not just once or twice, but three and four times on day four. reinterviewing people and going back over the evidence, reinterviewing any surveillance and talking to people days prior to when the baby went missing and when lisa went missing. things of that nature. they are at a collection point. they are going out on leads, but the geographical search is over. you have to keep in mind, this is a 10-month-old baby. not a toddler or a small child this. child did not get up and walk away. something happened to her. someone went in and did something with her and took her somewhere. put her somewhere. that needs to be the focus of this point. who was inside of that house? did someone go through the window? who left the lights on and where did the three cell phones going and work their way back. if the parents are on board

drying to work with investigators and trying to uncover information, the better off everyone is going to be. >> thank you. >> still ahead, a warning about prostate cancer screenings. why the tests can do more harm than good. shuttle drivers who are praying on the job. why they said they should have clocked out first. [ snoring ] [ thunder crashes ] [ snoring ]

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prostate tissue and not even cancer has been controversial for a long time and several studies have shown giving them routine test did not save lives overall. that sounds counter intuitive. we hear while you have cancer, you have to cut it out. it's not that way. most prostate cancer is not ever going to affect a man's life. he doesn't need to have it out and as a result of this test, a lot of men get it taken out and have bad consequences. >> more harm than good has been said. >> who would it affect? >> this affects everybody. every man should not let his doctor give the test. the autopsies have shown that almost every man over 50 has some some cells in his history. you get the test and it's

elevate and you get a biopsy and the treatment that can leave men incontinent. prostate cancer is deadly and does kill a lot of men. there is not a test that distinguishes between the deadly kind and the not so deadly kind. >> thank you very much. we appreciate that. robert bizell with the latest on the test. coming up, rick perry's race to win or mitt romney's place to lose. these are live pictures in d.c. where governor perry is expected to speak soon. a wrap up of the 2012 headlines. arnold schwarzenegger edidates a new museum in austria in hono of himself. we have the details. beyonce is showing off her baby bump in her newest music video. [ indistinct talking on radio ]

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developing news. we are watching the trial of conrad murray where we expect to hear a police interview never made public and he describes the final hours of jackson's life. a presidential first, they want president obama to turn over e-mails he sent about solyndra, the failed solar company. remembering steve jobs. the apple icon's biography will not be released for a few weeks and already number one. a historic accomplishment. marcia anderson is the first african-american woman to be a two-star general in the army. a house committee that may be setting up at the moment a legal battle with the white house over privileged information. at issue the request for e-mail

sent by president obama himself on failed solar energy company, solyndra. kelly o'donnell joins us live from washington. this is all part of an investigation of the government funding of solyndra. the question might be here will they actually be able to get the e-mails? >> there is always tension between capitol hill and the white house when investigations are involved. with the house being run by republicans now, they are in charge of oversight. there is attention there. committees involved sent letters to secretary to the department of energy, asking for more. saying they are not satisfied with the amount of documentation turned over so far. they want to get to the bottom of who knew what when. the classic washington question about the loan program that gave a half billion of taxpayer money to the solyndra company and went bankruptcy. there is a lot of discomfort and certainly about who is responsible and what we have

seen just this week is that the head of the loan program working for the department of energy, jonathan silver resigned. the president has full confidence, but this is not over. it's a back and forth tug of war over documents, trying to get to an answer and the white house said it didn't know that the company was about to go bankrupt. the president actually visit and that added a lot of attention to the company. they are trying to figure out what knew what when and it's still unfolding. >> one of the elements to watch is that the head of that loan program resigned. what does that mean? >> the department of energy said his ez nation was plan and republicans think he was someone with a target on his back and it is helpful to the administration for him to step aside. republicans on the house side who are looking into this say that's not enough to resolve it.

he was a big figure there too. it didn't cover when they were involve and he got into fwa bit of perceived trouble when he appeared before a hearing. they were not satisfied with his answers and he is stepping down. >> as always, thank you, kelly o'donnell. >> the front-runners in the people to face barack obama. in the voter summit in washington, d.c. hoping to sway key voters to his corner. mitt romney stayed on offense, intensifying attacks on the president and his vision of america. >> i believe we are an exceptional country with a unique destiny and role in the world. not exceptional as the president said in the way british think greece is exceptional.

in barack obama's profoundly mistaken view, there is nothing unique about the united states. >> let's bring in political director mark murray. watching him on the road, they are solidifying their sides of the camp. >> they are. it's interesting too to see the dichotomy. you have rick perry who is addressing the values of voters summit and trying to bone up on his social conservative issues and really stress his opposition to abortion and gay marriage. really embody the social conservatism in the race. mitt romney delivered a foreign policy address that seemed more something out of a general election. that's been key for mid-romney throughout this entire primary campaign. he took the fight more to president obama than to his primary opponents. he stepped up his campaign in the last couple of months. >> so it's a friday. we finish out the week. are we down finally to two front-runners?

>> it appears that way. herman cain is starting to soar in the polls b you the question is whether he can maintain that. he never served an elected office before and there doubts whether he has staying power. right now you are starting to see where the mitt romney versus rick perry. as we put it in, some ways you can see it's mitt romney's race to lose. all of the establishments are starting to coals around him. charlie cook, the great analyst also pointed out, it's rick perry's race to win. this is a more conservative republican party than in the past, a party that seems more in line with rick perry than mitt romney. >> all eyes are of course on the first votes. tell us about the recent developments. >> our nbc and iowa confirmed with sources in the iowa republican party that they tentatively set january 3rd as the date.

it's not official. it's a tentative date, but one reason they want to set it is they don't want the caucus to go into december. they say they would have the iowa caucuses on january 3rd, trying to prevent new hampshire from going january 3rd or earlier. there was a lot of discussion going into december around the christmas holidays. iowa is trying to do everything possible to start after the new year. >> let's cancel christmas anding this and get it going after halloween. let's do that. let's end on this and take you to massachusetts. we have the issue between elizabeth warren and scott brown. >> have you officially responded to elizabeth warren's comment about how she didn't take her clothes off? >> thank god. >> a little bit of humor from them going back and forth. we take a look at it and it will be a tight race. >> it will be an incredibly tight race and a lot of

supporters for elizabeth warren said it was sexist. you had republican senators be it from new hampshire defending scott brown here. you are right. this is going to be one of the senate contests to watch. warren has not sewn it up yet, but most likely warren versus brown. brown is one of the rock stars in the republican party. on the other hand, massachusetts is a very deep blue state. in a presidential year when barack obama will be on the ticket. it could be mitt romney for massachusetts as a republican nominee. that has the makings for a very close and entertaining race. >> entertaining, well said. they decided to go there and it made for a good sound for us. have a great weekend. >> you too. >> freedom for a woman who spent 26 years on death row. that tops the look around the nation. at one point, gale owens came

within two months of being executed for hiring a stranger to kill her husband, but it was commuted to in prison last year after she claims she committed the crime because she was a battered wife. she said she did not use that defense when she was tried because she did not want her young sons to know about the 23z and sexual abuse she suffered. she was releasedo today. >> the steve jobs biography will be released october 24th. it is written by the former managing editor of time magazine and already the number one bestseller on amazon.com. the apple cofounder died on wednesday after a long battle with cancer. britain's prince harry is now in the united states for helicopter training. the prince who is known as captain harry wales in the british army air corps will shave two months of training at the naval air facility in el send row, california. he will be flying helicopters

near the mexican border. >> you are about to meet a woman who has been making history in the u.s. army. just last week, marcia anderson became the first african-american woman promoted to major general. she was already the highest ranking african-american woman in the army. major general anderson joining us live and first of all, very hearty congratulations to you. >> thank you very much. >> major general, let's start with this. what does the promotion mean to you? >> as i said in my remarks that day, for me it fulfilled the dreams and aspirations of a lot of my family members. my ancestors, family and other friends. collectively, all the people right now, i know they are jumping up and down and cheering. it realizes their dreams. >> realizes their dreams and you mentioned in previous interviews this was able to happen because of those who came before you.

one of those is your father. your father who wanted to be a bomber, a pilot. he was unable and became a truck driver. what did he say when he fun to out about this tremendous accomplishment that you have made? >> well, my dad is a man of few words. he basically let me know that this was what he expected out of me. he was obviously very happy and i know we will have a great celebration in a couple of months. he is very proud of me. as i said earlier, this is kind of a realization of his dream and it is things he thought he wanted to do with his and was unable to do so. >> you did it in spades. you got into the army and i was reading you did this by accident. >> absolutely. in the old days before you registered for classes on line, we used to go to a large and

sign up for classes. that day i needed a science credit. i was a liberal arts major. i had a night job and the only class i really wanted to take was astronomy. i saw a gentlemen at a table that said military science and i said is this a science credit and he said absolutely. that's how it got started. >> if that is an accident, i can't wait until you you focus on something because it will be amazing. thank you so much. >> you are very welcome. >> congratulations again. >> still ahead on "news nation." >> i think the transformation is complete. >> well, let's go get some girls. >> remember that? they took the 90s pop culture by storm and beefis and butt head will make a come back. jersey shore, look out. but first, a lot going on here and here are things we thought you should know. in a few minutes, president obama will welcome the 1985 chicago bears to the white house.

i wonder if perry will get there. they never got to visit 1600 pennsylvania avenue because of the challenger accident. hopefully they will not sing the super bowl shuffle. if mrs. obama is looking for something else to do, woody allen has something in mind. he told a british show he would not hesitate to ask mrs. obama to star in one of his movies. he cast the french first lady for a minor role. it could happen. former california governor arnold schwarzenegger was on hand in innaugurate the arnold schwarzenegger museum. that museum is inside the home where he grew up outside a bronze statue of a former mr. universe. he commissioned himself and dedicated the museum. those are the things.

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coming up, a better than expected jobs number. why weren't republicans in congress considering the massive jobs plan? herman cain unplugged. he may be his own worst enemy. back to richard. >> farrah fawcett's judge faces a judge today. beyonce has a bigger baby bump and beefis and butt head are back. let's get the scoop from courtney where would you like to start? >> redmond o'neal. he years of trouble and finally today she should be facing a judge to find out sentencing in that case, stemming from heroin and gun charges. there was an altercation where he turned himself in for the most part saying that he had relapsed of some sort and he

faced the judge then. he was sent back to jail with the sentencing to be today. he could go back to rehab. the judge said listen, i don't understand how this happened at a rehab facility. it sounded as if there might be sympathy or leniency when the time for sentencing came. we will be watching to see what happens in sell today. ryan o'neal's son griffin pled not guilt to changes stemming from drug and firearm charges from a car accident that took place about two months ago i believe it happened in august. we will be following up with that story about sentencing for that as well. >> we have to keep a list ready for this family. >> exactly. it's so sad. we have seen ryan o'neal with his reality show and this family keeps playing out their problems in public. some willingly and some not. >> a lot to be told in a reality show. beyonce with a baby bump and

keeps on moving. >> putting all pregnant women to shame. check out her video for the song countdown. if you watch the entire thing, nothing is slowing her down. we don't know when she is due and she finally confirmed the pregnancy just a few months ago. if you haven't seen it yet, it will pop up on intersearches. beyonce and i are going to have a cans off. bearing the leave. they are coming back. they are renewed and the show resumes after multiple years of hiatus.

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time for the "news nation" gut check. 34 miss lums who drive shuttle buses have been suspended.

they were sent only last week for praying on the job. observant muslims pray five times a day. for the shuttle drivers, one or two fall during their shift. the company said the drivers who earn $9 to $10 an hour are required to clock out with the equal employment opportunity commission. the teamsters are trying to get them back on the job at this moment. what does your gut tell you? should they have suspended shuttle bus drivers for praying on the job? go to "news nation" to tell us your vote. we will be looking at that of course. take a look at what the "news nation" is saying about yesterday about a woman kicked off a public transit agency bus in portland because her baby was crying. we asked, was the bus driver justified? 93% of you nodded your head no. just 7% said yes. that does it for "news nation." in for tamron hall. you can catch "news nation"

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