be done now and needs to be done immediately? >> well, thomas, it wouldn't be surprising if we did. we've seen the president take this tactic before, talking about the 9.1% unemployment rate. the high unemployment rate in the african-american community hovering around 16% to make the case that something needs to be done on jobs and the economy right now. just over the weekend during his weekly radio address we heard the president make the case that if his jobs bill isn't passed we could run the risk of slipping back into another recession. so this is certainly a tactic that the president has taken. of course, republicans look at these numbers and see something quite different. they use these figures to make the case that the president has failed on the economy. so really, both sides being what they want in these figures. thomas? >> certain americans have taken the tact of any part in the storm because workers have taken tremendous pay cuts just to stay employed. those laid off during ret session took a 17.5% pay cut to

find work once again. peter, what needs to happen for the salaries to return to pre-y is regz levels? >> the economy has to grow from 3% to 5% a year again which it hasn't done and to do that, we have to increase stimulus or cut taxes and we have to do something about the trade deficit. american, although they spend, they don't spend on stuff that's made here and to do that, we have to address china and the china currency issue. at $85 a barrel we don't have to import oil. we can develop that. those are two big areas that if the president wants to make a difference, he can get behind china as opposed to talking about it and opening up drilling so we use more domestic oil as op posted to imported oil. >> the president speaking to voters in pittsburgh and orlando tomorrow. after watching the sunday morning talkers, a lot of people are coming back saying over the

last week or two he's coming across as belearinged. so how is he going to be selling this message as the best person to create jobs and save this economy if he doesn't exude the confidence necessary in our commander in chief? >> thomas, it's interesting. we've seen the president start to paint himself as a crusader for the middle class and paint republicans as the party of big business and wealthy americans. of course, republicans would dispute that, but he's really trying to tap into some of that voter frustration that we have seen across the country, really, and it's interesting because republicans have accused him of trying to wage a class warfare for proposing to increase taxes on families who make $250,000 or more. the president is taking that criticism and turning it on its head and saying, look, that's a badge that i'll wear with honor. we've also heard him really ramp up his rhetoric recently. we expect to hear more of the same tomorrow in pittsburgh and orlando.

>> very quickly, i want to show everybody the markets and what they're doing today and it's a banner monday as they watch the sharp increase. this is because of france and germany saying that they are going to post to help the euro zone bank strengthen them and how can the french president sarkozy and chancellor merkel in the euro zone. >> they'll have to put real cash up to recapitalize its banks. merkel has suggested that the banks sell more shares and that's not going work in the present environment. it's only germany and france that have the kind of money necessary because remember, they can't print money inside the euro zone, the individual countries. they're the only one with the kind of money necessary to start shoring up these banks and that's what's going to be necessary because these banks are going to take a hit when greece ultimately does default and it will be on the debt of other mediterranean countries. >> wall street is responding. green arrows across the board. i want to say thank you to you, peter morici, and kristen

welker, thank you. mitt romney, his faith moving fwront and center in a republican presidential primary. the latest mess was sparked by a rick perry supporter after an introduction at the value voters summit. pastor robert jeffers made these comments about roberts' religion. >> rick per se a christian. he's an evangelical christian, a follower of jesus christ. mitt romney is a good moral person, but he's not a christian. mormonism is not christianity anda it's always been considered a cult, so it's the difference between a christian and non-christian. >> gop candidates have a chance to weigh in on the pastor's comments and condemned them, but they dodged the question. take a look. >> i'm not running for theologian in chief. i'm a lifelong christian and what that means is one of my guiding principles and the decisions i make is i start with

do the right thing. i'm not getting into that controversy. >> this is so inconsequential as far as this campaign is concerned. >> i have no idea why people are wasting and spending so much political bandwidth on this issue. >> patrick, good morning. mitt romney didn't speak directly to this on saturday, but he did make comments against poisonous language and politics. is the mormon faith, patrick, going become a bigger issue for his campaign and does it make it an easier topic for people to address now? >> i certainly think it does. a lot of folks who are leary about mitt romney's religion probably won't vote for him anyway 37 a lot of social conservatives are troubled about his position in the past. the reality is that mitt romney has been the front-runner from the beginning and he's used to these attacks and he's addressed this stuff from back in 2008 and a lot of his opponents aren't

willing to go after him directly on that issue. mitt romney's whole selling point at this point is the person with the best chance to beat barack obama and also perhaps the most adult guy in the room. the more that he sort of stays away from this and he dismisses it with poisonous language, there's a chance that that could benefit him and that could make him more confident and secure pit. >> patrick jeffers was on msnbc, following his friday response. take a look at this. >> i don't think mitt romney will energize evangelical voters and not just because of the more hon issue but because he's viewed as an inconsistent conservative. i want to remind people, alex that in 200830 million evangelical christians sat at home and didn't vote because they were not enthused by john mccain and i'm afraid what is what will happen in the 2012 election. >> we're not going drill down on those numbers specifically, but president obama may face a lack

of enthusiasm. will a mormon candidate keep evangelical christians from the ballot box? >> think he's right in the sense that every vote counts and this election 20 twef12 will be verye like most elections have been. he doesn't want to dismiss any segment of the population and jeffreries himself said he woul not completely rule out voting for romney. a lot of e varjel cal voters might feel the same way and even more than 2008, this election is going to be about jobs, jobs, jobs, and that's really what mitt romney is trying to make his campaign about, not that religion and personal views won't come into play, but i do think that most americans will not put religion as the number one issue in 2012. >> perry was asked, obviously, about the jeffress comment right away and said i don't think it's a cult. how much will this kurt the campaign in general and will it be another mess for him potentially from tomorrow

night's debate. >> we all know the way politics works. there's no reason to believe that that happened in this case, but no doubt perry will have to defend it in the way that any candidate will have to defend those in their close circle. the reality is that all of these candidates will throw spaghetti on the wall in the next few months and weeks coming up just to see if they can ding away at the lead that mitt romney has. so far mitt romney has proven good to hang in there and remaining in the lead and i suspect he'll be able to weather this one as well. >> see if it sticks. i want to pass along, we are expecting mitt romney to speak in new hampshire this hour. we'll keep an eye on that for you. i hope you're paying attention because this is being called the worst violence to erupt in egypt since the february uprising that ousted hosni mubarak. at least 25 people killed, more than 300 more wounded in a

series of explosive riots in cairo, all of it growing from what began as a peaceful protest over a church attack and the deadly clashes continue today. nbc's michelle kosinski is live for us. good morning. >> hi, thomas. it's really incredible the scale to which this has grown and how quickly it spread. as you mentioned, the koptic christians which make up about 10% of egypt's population were angry about a church that had been attacked and how they felt it was portrayed on state tv. so they started a sort of sit-in outside of the tv facility and that quickly erupted into violence, clashing with muslims and clashing with security forces, shots being fired, stones being thrown and people beaten with sticks and more than 2,0 200 people have been killed and others hurt. more violence, rupted outside the hospital and spread to other areas of cairo. there's been an emergency session among officials trying to deal with this, but this

tension between groups has been around for a very long time, and what's interesting is the kind of stability that mubarak was able to maintain while in power was to keep these tensions at bay, but almost immediately after the revolution we saw these kinds of incidents grow dramatically. i mean, we than in april and may dozens of people were killed in clashes. of course, it didn't reach this scale or this kind of visibility and we tended to not hear about it so much in the u.s. and it would be things like coptic christian churches attacked groups of hard-line muslims who felt like they had more leeway without mubarak and power and they were able to instigate groups and it was like a car accident that would lead to clashes and people killed fighting between christians and muslims. where this is going, no one is sure at this point, but the violence is continuing in cairo, thomas. >> nbc's michelle kosinski reporting from london for us.

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>> welcome back, everybody. the desperate search for a missing baby girl in missouri stretches into a seventh day today, but despite hundreds of tips and a wide-ranging investigation which has included metal detector sweeps, door-to-door questioning and a landfill search and the staging of a fake break-in at her parents' home, fbi and police say they still don't know what happened to 10-month-old lisa irwin. nbc's peteral exandriner is live for us in kansas city. so, peter, tell us what

investigators did and apparently that they're showing pictures of a handyman that they say could be a person of interest. >> reporter: yeah. at this point here's what we know about that handyman. we watched as investigators went door to door, literally a block from where we're standing here and they showed these pictures to the neighbors of a handyman who authorities told neighbors has a criminal record and has not been seen since lisa irwin's disappearance, exactly one week ago. they say that person is not a suspect. in fact, there are no suspects at this time and there are few leads to go on. more than 250 tips including some coming from as far away from california and that tip said someone saw a baby that could look like lisa irwin. there was one significant effort yesterday, though. for the first time we saw something remarkable. investigators crawling into the window of this home. basically trying to re-create how an abductor might have got into the home and apparently

trying to validate or discredit the story of lisa irwin's parents who had said that@exactly one week ago monday night to tuesday morning when the father came home from his first overnight shift that he ever worked that he found the front door was unlocked and the lights were on and his baby girl was gone as well as oddly, three cell phones from the home. there is one other piece of information that a lot of people found interesting is that lisa irwin's mom, deborah bradley is married, but she's not married to jeremy irwin, the man she lived in this home with. she is still married to a man she separated from four years ago. the two of them could not afford to get divorced. we asked the question, he, the husband is not considered a suspect and is reportedly away serving with the u.s. army. thomas? >> what about the police were very vocal last week about the fact that the parents had cut off communication with them or not answering questions at a certain point. what are the relationships going back and forth now? are they still working closely

with one another? >> it's a good question. it has been best described as a tense off again/on again relationship with the family. on thursday night we were told they were not cooperating according to police. they haven't spoken publicly. they did speak with investigators again. the family spokesperson have told us it's unlikely they'll speak to the media any time soon and they'll focus the attention on their missing daughter. >> nbc's peter alexander in kansas city, missouri. we want to bring in now investigative crime reporter michelle segona into the conversation. here we have the fbi and police saying they have no big leads right now although they are asking questions about him. what does that indicate to you? >> spoke with captain young this morning and of course, they're not going to go into any detail on the people that they are questioning. what this tells me is that they are doing their leg work as much as possible. they're going around door to

door, not just once, multiple times. here we for day number serve at this particular point. you have this handyman and a report of a teenager that was questioned over the weekend, family member, friends, very normal in these types of investigations and to start at the core and start with the parents and fan out and work their way out and that's where they are right now. >> very quickly. when we look at the police staging the break-in or what they believe could be the break-in and knowing that there are cameras there that will be filming them film the staging of this. what is that sending out to the public? >> it's very typical in every investigation for police to quote, unquote, re-enact crime scenes. they have to be able to nail down this timeline to see if -- what the last people said is in fact possible and feasible. in this particular case they're not going get through that window and this is how i -- i guess the story was told. they're not going to be able to do that without people in the outside looking in, sort of the

robyn gardner case they publicly re-enacted this scene, and to do this multiple times and apparently the window is higher so they needed someone to lift the investigator up into the house and to be able to see if they went to get the cell phones and how the lights went on and how baby lisa's room is on the other side of the house. to be able to take all of those things into account to see was this possible? if so, how did it happen? how many minutes does it take to do something like this? why didn't anyone wake up? did any of the neighbors see anything and to take that information and to sort of plug it into their white board, per se, back at the station and to say is this possible? no, this isn't. okay, let's move to this point. so all of these are very normal investigative tactics at this point. captain young also told me they are rounding out close to 300 leads and they are continuing to bring in those high priority leads and lower priority ones in to rule some in and rule some

out as it seems fit. >> michelle, quickly, what do you make of this information that lisa, the baby's mom, is married to another man. >> i think there are all sorts of family dynamics and when you hava different settings and multiple dads and sometimes things work and sometimes things don't. i don't think this changes anything as the search for baby lisa comes into play. i think it's just another piece of -- another nugget, something that's just being uncovered and it helps to shed a little light on the family dynamic. >> investigative crime reporter michelle sidona. good to see you. >> have a good day. the road to 270. where does president obama have a real chance of winning a second term? we'll look at the fickle five states that are still very much up in the air for him. a scary new report that affects every single one of us here in the u.s. you name it. i've tried it. but nothing's helped me beat my back pain.

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look, i'm going to run in 2016. i just can't do it now. let's just say i've got to make a couple of things go away first. but after this poor bastard loses i'll get a nice head start and it will be great, fat president, come o it writes itself! >> it's "saturday night live" frying to get the gop to like mitt romney. the new jersey governor and will be doing so in 2016 after an inevitable republican loss next year. everything moved to president obama and his re-election teammate is geared toward 270. that's the number of electoral votes needed for four more years, but that's easier said than done. his bus tour next week through north carolina and virginia speaks to the importance of those states and the president will have a tough test in swing states carried in '08. what is the best game plan? larry sabato is the director for

center of politics at the university of virginia and joins us now. larry, i want to go over some of the analysis that i've done on this electoral math. in your 2012 state of play, you say that the president already has roughly 175, those votes locked up and you indicate the toss-up in states in florida, iowa and virginia. what should the president's strategy be over the next year in the specifically-known toss-up states? >> i think his best shots are nevada because of the hispanic vote. that's a toss-up, but it could easily go democratic again. he has to put a lot of emphasis on iowa, once again and carry it handily in 2008. virginia, surprisingly, gave him the best percentage of many of these toss-up states and did a lot better than ohio, for example, ohio gave him 51% and virginia gave him 53%. i don't think the president could afford to lose virginia and he has to carry either

virginia or florida. north carolina is a stretch and he barely carried it in ideal conditions and even though the democrats are having their convention there. >> i think a lot of people will find this interesting because you have three scenarios for the president winning re-election. and one discussing the fickle five state which is is what you call them and two, that slightly mirror the electoral maps of al gore and john kerry. which of these scenarios is most likely for four more years? >> essentially, you start with his guaranteed state. the states where he did the best in 2008. you solidify places that are perhaps a little shaky right now which is pennsylvania, michigan, particularly if mitt romney is the republican nominee since he grew up there. his dad was governor there and so on. wisconsin, which could be shaky. new hampshire which could be shaky. essentially you solidify enough of those states that he carried

because after all, he had an enormous margin. he's got a lot to fritter away from 2008. the problem is, of course, if you have a bad economy nationally and it's affecting 40 of the 50 states, inevitably if you lose three or four of the key states you have a pretty good chance of losing them owl. >> the university of virginia's larry sabato. thank you. >> thanks, thomas. i, for one, am increasingly concerned about the growing mobs occupying wall street and the other cities across the country. >> republicans blaming the, quote, mobs that make up the occupy wall street protests for dividing the nation, but these very different rhetoric who describe the tea party, is this movement being villainized by the right? and all you need is love and now paul mccartney has it again. details on the beatles' weddinger is moneyy this past weekend in london. m beeping ]

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welcome back, everybody. i'm thomas roberts. breaking news to pass along pt the white house releasing a statement saying president obama is deeply concerned about the deadly violence that has erupted in egypt. this is the worst since the toppling of hosni mubarak. the white house says these events should not stand in the way of the continued transition to democracy that is peaceful, just and inclusive. at least 25 people have been killed in a serious of riots in cairo stemming from peaceful protests over a church attack that happened there. in the past hour, al qaeda confirmed the death was anwar al awlaki and shamir kahn. al qaeda called these two mar r martyrs. there are -- that made it legal to target and kill american citizens without a trial. >> joining me now is jim miklaszewski. explain what's exactly in this memo.

>> what would have been contained in the justice department memo to the white house was essentially legal justification for putting anwar al awlaki, an american-born cleric on the u.s. government's kill or capture list. now, you know, the civil rights advocates once awlaki was killed are complaining he was not, as an american citizen, he was not given due process. on the other hand the administration will argue since he allegedly instigated and in fact tried to carry out terrorist attacks against the united states he was fair game and he lost some of those privileges, thomas. >> we now know there is a computer virus that's targeting drones. >> how concern side the u.s. military about that? >> the u.s. military where air force pilots actually, by remote control operate those drones half a world away. they discovered that a virus had infected the control systems there that the pilots use. so far there's been no damage to

the systems and no indication that any classified material has been leaked, but they're having a heck of a time trying to get rid of it. there is concern that u.s. military officials say at this point again because there's no indication any classified material was compromised, nobody, so far, has panicked. >> nbc's jim miklaszewski at the pentagon. thank you. >> all right, thomas. here's other news, governor prohibited anyone under the age of 18 to use tanning beds as of 2012. minors between the ages of 14 and 18 were allowed to use the devices with parental consent. this bill is part of a series of legislation to improve the health and well-being of californians, this according to the governor's office. since 9/11 authorities beefed up their efforts on preventing a terrorist attack and that renewed focus took officials away from very important monitoring. the quality of the nation's food

supply. an associated press analysis found foreign insects and plant diseases slipped undetected into the u.s. as border protection officials were so focused on stopping terrorists that they ignored the growingicfestations attacking fruits and vegetables. homeland officials say they're working to step up inspections at check points, airports and sea ports. wedding bells were the music of choice for paul mccartney this weekend. take a look at this. the former beatle and new york heiress tied the knot in london on sunday, the birthday of his fellow beatle john lennon. this is the third marriage for his 69-year-old rocker, his first to linda eastman and his 2002 marriage to heather mills ended in a really ugly divorce costing mccartney mill yorngs but looking very happy there leaving the chapel this weekend. congratulations to him. new reaction today from washington, leaders weighing in on the occupy wall street

movement. house majority leader eric cantor said on cnbc, these protesters are not like the tea party and scolded politicians who support them. >> what is infuriating to me is we have elected leaders that are inflaming this sense that we ought to be pitting americans against americans. i think right now is the time for all of us to come together. >> democratic leader nancy pelosi blasted cantor on sunday essentially saying where that was come together spirit when the tea party protested. >> i didn't hear him saying anything when the tea party was out demonstrating and actually spitting on members of congress right here on the capitol and he and his colleagues were putting signs in the windows encouraging them. >> all right. how did congressman cantor actually speak about the tea party movement? here's what we dug up from "meet the press" in january. >> they've been a tremendous force in having us focus on

fiscal issues. first, they bring a very fresh, new look to all spending. >> joining me now is mother jones reporter josh harkinson who set up camp in lower manhattan. >> and it's good to have you here and you were listening to what eric cantor is saying about how this movement is essentially pitting americans against one another. what's the sense you got from spending time down there this week snernd. >> i got a very different sense of it, obviously. i think the crowd really has bridged a divide between a lot of different groups in america who are all concerned about the same issue which is just the vast inequity between the wealthy and middle class in america. as you probable know, 1% of americans control 35% of the nation's wealth and that's an issue that unites the country in outrage and you see the outrage expressed there and in a way that's also non-violent and really sort of a feel-good phenomenon.

so i think it's hypocritical that he would criticize it in that way. >> the interesting thing is trying to dissect two. that is protesting against the rich or protesting against the financial system that got them there and that really is what the occupy wall street is more about. it's about the financial system that got the rich to where they are and keeps them protected where they are today. >> that's right. >> you know, that issue keeps coming up over and over again down there. it's been there for two days now. pretty much embedded full time, and you see so many signs that, you know, they're focusing on wall street and the way that it has really destroyed the american economy by just pushing it over the edge through all sorts of, you know, policies that are really dangerous ultimately. >> josh, as we see, though, politicians are certainly taking notice of this, but is it going to instigate the change that the occupy wall street movement wants to see from our national leaders? >> well, that's a really good question, and it's really hard to get the movement focused

around one big, unifying goal and there are so many voices there, but there's a red herring to focus that too much now. it's real value. it's just raising this as an issue that needs to be addressed and sort of telling the country that it's okay to talk about this and, you know, after that happens, the other things start to fall into place eventually. >> from your sense ever being down there. the tea party, as we refer to it as a party. do you think the protesters are looking to organize themselves as a type of party or move forward in some sort of political capacity more than just trying to, as you say, having the fact that they're despair at protesters? >> i was down there last night for this organizational meeting they have every day where they talk about a whole bunch of different things and this was something that came up there and there was a guy who stood up and said i would like to have a meeting to talk about how to get involved in the 2012 elections. and the reception was sort of

muted. i think that people aren't ready to talk about that yet. they're just kind of trying to figure out what this is and how they'll all fit together and they're more focused on just how they can occupy the park and stay there and stay in the media spot lite. >> they've done a good job so far. it's week four. thanks for coming in. >> my pleasure, tom. they're expected to bring president obama's jobs bill to the floor with debate and hopes that the millionaire surtax inserted to pay for the bill will get the 60 votes needed to do what the president has repeatedly called for which is pass his bill. north dakota senator john hoeven is a member of the senate appropriations commit pep nice to see you this morning. >> good morning. >> 60 votes means there is needed help from the republican side. does the millionaires tax surcharge make any headway in your side of the aisle in your estimation to reach that number? >> thomas, good to be with you. i don't think that the president's proposal is going go

very far because it doesn't accomplish what we need to did. we need to create the legal tax and regulatory environment that will give people confidence and it will stimulate private investment. that's what we need to get the job market going to create jobs and get this economy going and his plan taxes more, spends more, goes the wrong direction. it's actually making things worse. >> take a listen to this. this is paul ryan on "meet the press" yesterday. i want to ask you a question on the other side. >> we have a difference of opinion with the white house and how best to create jobs. we don't think doubling down on failed stimulus policy which is r already proven to fail is the right way to go, so we want to work with ideas that have proven to work, that means helping small businesses grow and that means getting certainty in our policy, regulations, taxes, debt so that small businesses can grow. temporary stimulus are now what businesses are telling us they need. >> what's it going to take,

though, sir to get republicans to say we've found the middle ground? because most economists will tell you that small businesses don't really grow. they remain small. we all know people who have the liquor store down the street or their bread store down the street and they maintain the same three or four employees that i've had for a life time. where do republicans find the middle ground to bring that message home? >> small business is the backbone of this country, but whether it's business large or small, they need the kind of environment that encourages private investment. and the administration keeps trying to grow government and more taxing and more regulating and more government growth and that's the problem. we've got to stimulate private investment and that's what will generate job creation and that's why we've come forward with plans that not only promote trade, and passing the trade agreement that provide less regulation and not make it easier to do business that provide tax reform. actually revenue growth comes

from economic growth and not higher taxes so let's have pro-growth tax reform. let's control spending. these are the things that will create the kind of business environment that will encourage all businesses large and small to invest, to hire people and go and expand. >> america is looking and paying attention to what you guys are doing. take a look at this number right now. congressional republicans have a 71% disapproval rating. when we talk about the dodd-frank financial reform law as you've been talking about, you've been a proponent of regulatory reform, but how can concerns trust loosening the reins, so to speak on big business, trufrt the fact that they're going to do what's needed to grow the economy, as you say? >> thomas, great question. there is a role for regulation, but it needs to be straightforward, sifrmel, understandable and certainly provide adequate protections and so forth, but encourage investment. in other words, people have to could the rules of the road so we need regulation that's

understandable and workable and we need regulators to make sure they're doing things right and well and they're able to invest and move forward whether it's finance and manufacturing and any other sector of this economy. >> how can americans trust that they'll do the right thing? >> again, you do have a proper role for regulation and regulators, but if you have such a byzantine, overblown regulatory environment, too much regulation that companies can't even understand it then they won't invest. that's why we have companies sitting on huge amounts of cash unwilling to invest and hire people because they don't know the rules of the road. you have to have simple, straightforward, understandable regulation that empowers private investment. >> thanks for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you, thomas. prince, blanket and paris jackson honoring their dad and even -- get this, donning outfits he should approve of. could the the kids' next appearance be on the witness stand when it comes to the trial about his death?

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prince, paris and blanket jackson. >> so court may be dark today in michael jackson's death trial, but his kids were certainly in the spotlight this weekend. take a look at them. prince, paris and blanket jackson took center stage at a concert in wales for their legendary father this weekend. back in the states, though, the case against his former doctor continues for the first time on friday. jurors heard audiotape of conrad murray describing to police how he used propofol to sedate the singer. take a listen. >> he said i can't function if i don't sleep. they'll have to cancel it, and i don't want this to cancel it, but they'll have to cancel it. so i agreed at that time. and i switched over to the

propofol. more of that tape will be played in court coming up tomorrow. joining me now, though is legal analyst and criminal defense attorney ann bremner. ann, you have covered michael jackson's 2005 criminal trial. this is very familiar turf for you. what do prosecutors hope to achieve by playing more of this oddio tape. is it to compensate for jurors hear the compassion in his voice about how he was trying to medically take over the case of michael jackson? >> in a way, it's a confession because he gave the propofol to michael jackson. he said so. it's on tape, and the fact is if you give it outside of a surgical or clinical arena, technically you're guilty of manslaughter. in other words, you haven't met the standard of care, and also failing to monitor is guilty of manslaughter and having that standard of care. that's yet prosecutors have put this into evidence even though it cuts both ways and he can say

michael jackson contributed to his own death and asked for his milk which was the anesthetic. >> that's a great point because this does punch a hole in the theory that the defense lawyers tried to put out there that jackson himself was the one who administered the lethal dose of propofol? >> i almost see that as a functional equivalent to casey anthony saying that caylee drowned in a pool. they put it out in the opening statement, likewise, they put it out that michael jackson caused his own death, but they can't prove it. so was that a horrible mistake to make that assertion in opening statement or could it work as in the casey anthony case where it carried the day with them for the jury even though the evidence was never there. >> very quickly, the kids we mentioned growing up right before our eyes and looking amazing at that concert in wales. do you think that they're really going to have to take the stand? >> i hope not. you know, i think, both paris and prince were witnesses and

they already have bodyguard, personal assistants and medics and all of the information that michael was dead or dying and that there was that 911 was called late, attempts were made to hide propofol and ivs. what do the kids add other than tugging at our heart strings that their dad is gone, the king of pop is gone and it is a horrible tragedy. >> they look great. the kids hopefully don't have to take the stand. ann bremner, great to see you. new comments from rick perry and supporter robert jefrs on mormon faith put religion in the spotlight. this is not the first time race and politics have inter second on the race for the white house. more on that next. rest.

with less than 100 days before the nation's first presidential primary, the candidates have descended on new hampshire with several events on the schedule for today.

frontrunner mitt romney is having a town hall in milford. he kicks off a day of campaigning, fresh off an endorsement by former new hampshire senator and governor judd gray. jon huntsman is laying out his approach to foreign policy calling for scale back in afghanistan, further spending cuts at the pentagon. rick santorum meeting with voters, claiming his campaign is now on an up tick slowly chipping away at rivals coming in third this weekend at the value voters straw poll. pastor robert jeffress's comments on the mormon faith put religion in the political spotlight. it is the first time we have seen it make big headlines in the races. in the '60s, john f. kennedy said his catholicism wouldn't interfere. in the 1920s, al smith had a running on a platform to repeal

prohibition, fell short in 1928 and in the following election. this weekend did it mark the first instance mitt romney was a focal point? here he is back in 2007 during his first campaign. >> when i place my hand on the bible and take the oath of office, that oath becomes my highest promise to god. if i'm fortunate to become your president, i will serve no one religion, no one group, no one cause, and no one interest. a president must serve only the common cause of the people of the united states. >> romney couldn't get past john mccain to face president obama who had his own political problem in the form of reverend jeremiah wright whose comments over sermons through the years that obama had to distance himself from the man that presided over his marriage. we will watch for questions on

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