chief correspondent richard engle made his way to cairo. what's the latest? >> reporter: there were more clashes today, but nothing like we saw in the city yesterday. the clashes actually took place right in front of the bureau where i am standing right now. very close to the nile river. it began as a christian protest, a peaceful protest with several thousand demonstrators trying to demand justice. they were holding a march going to the central television station which is just a few hundred yards from here. as they approach the television station, they came across soldiers with pushing and shoving and that's when things descended very quickly. they came very violent. the soldiers dispatched to the military vehicles you were talking about that started plowing through the crowd. the demonstrators picked up stones and started throwing them

at the police who attacked them and the army who attacked them with the vehicles. gunfire broke out and according to the ministry of health, at least 25 people were killed. nearly all of them koptic christian demonstrators and 300 people were injured. >> richard, i understand there is a curfew in place. what is the military saying or doing to try to control the violence even though you have christians saying they cannot depend on the government to protect them. you you pointed out the video we have seen of vehicles plowing through the people. >> the government is in damage control mode. they are saying there will be special investigations and urgent meetings all day. i think the timing is also connected to this fact. there was a muslim convict who was executed today for a

previous attack on christians. the government is trying to show the people that it is taking this incident very seriously. there was a great deal of skepticism, a great deal of anger on the streets. i returned from a protest that was being held in front of the hospital where some of the bodies of the christians are being held. people out in front, the more christian demonstrators were saying that the government didn't do anything to protect them. the government yesterday attacked christians and that the government is allowing islamic extremists including some know within the security forces to have free and they're worried about the political future for minorities, particularly christians as there is still a period of chaos that followed president mubarak's ouster in february. >> just getting there in cairo with the live report for us. let's bring in foreign correspondent who is based in

egypt in new york with us right now. what do you see as the reason we are having this outbreak. we know this started with a christian church being partially demolished. you see this not a clear sectarian incidence of sectarian violence. >> what we have seen time and time again is they will be isolated between a back up of sectarianism. that's triggering for something on a larger scale. this is no different. from all the people i have been speaking to and saying happening on the streets is people are growing frustrated with the pace of reform. the military is in a difficult position. it's on one hand running the day to day affairs for 80 million people including law and order and justice. at the same time it's also trying to lead the path to democratic transition. it is failing miserably. >> when we saw the spring and the people there he was long gone. there was a fear there would be

a slow transition and the military might get drunk with power and not want to turn over the power. is that what we are seeing here? >> the egyptian people are disappointed with the pace of progress. if you look at the statement, it said within six months they would have a clear timeline for leading the country to a democratic process. we are now well beyond six months. >> they have not even met their deadline. >> absolutely. the big concern is if you look at the time table that has been put out there, you are looking at a presidency as late as 2012 and early 2013. that's almost a year and a half after he was ousted. when the timeline looks like is a three-stage process that begins at the end of november for the lower house of parliament. upper house is early 2012 and six months later, a presidential election. people are extremely nervous and worried about the democratic reform. >> thank you very much for

joining us in the studio. on to the republican candidate for president. they are gearing up for the next debate, tomorrow night in new hampshire. mitt romney's mormon faith could be a major topic. it follows comments about romney's religion by a supporter of dallas pastor and leader, robert jeffries. he introduced perry at a values voter summit in washington. >> rick perry is a christian. he's an evangelical christian and a follower of jesus christ. mitt romney is not a christian. mormonism is not christianity and has always been considered a cult. >> do men co, mitt romney has not specifically addressed this pastor and his comments he admonished another speaker for bigotry at the values voter conference. what are we expecting and what can we hear next from mitt romney?

>> we know last time around we made a speech about mormonism and talked about that in the vain of jfk talking about catholici catholicism. what mitt romney tried to stick to is the economy. this is a big issue. his religion in two of the four early states, iowa and south carolina, his team thinks he might have a chance to win even with this issue out here it came close last time. they are not focusing on iowa and south carolina. they are focusing on new hampshire and nevada out west and thinking they can go win a longer term race. >> the dynamic is different. he is the front-runner and next in line depending on the poll you see is rick perry. now you have a lout voice who reports rick pero record attacking. he is attacking this man's religion. >> yeah.

rick perry was asked whether or not he thinks form e mormonism is a cult as jeffers said. he said no, i don't think that his campaign has tried to distance himself from the comments. he doesn't renounce the endorsement, but that he doesn't espouse the same views. i think they both want to get past this issue. maybe start talking about the economy. for someone like rick perry, the debate coming tomorrow night. it's important to get back on the right track. >> thank you so much. greatly appreciate it. let's bring in the daily beast reporter, mckay, thanks for joining us. you are here for two reasons. you are a great writer and also mormon. >> that's right. >> i want your thoughts on how this is being handled. this could come up in the debate and likely will. is he handling this in an effective way to help his

candidacy? >> he has to walk a very delicate balance here. on the one hand he doesn't want to seem weak. he needs to stand up when he is being attacked on something that is unfair like his religion. on the other hand he doesn't want to make it a campaign issue because he knows there is a lot of republican voter who is will not vote for a mormon. >> he may not want to make it a campaign issue, but as you know for conservatives it is. when you have someone saying your religion is a cult, this is what you believe. these are your values and what you raised your grandchildren and the dozens of them. this is a part of who you are. how does he not appear weak if you don't defend what you believe? >> i think a lot of mormons would agree with you. he wished he would stand up a little bit more for himself and his faith. >> doesn't it make it more

mysterious when you don't talk about it? >> the stigma is there when you brush it off and say that's not penitentiary. if you are open and honest and say this is what i believe and everyone believes things that are strange from the outside. this is part of who i am and let's move forward. that would be a lot better. >> is it possible for mitt romney or even john huntsman to move forward without giving a significant speech or at least try to allow for understanding? for many people, i have to be honest with you. they base the book of mormon on as much as they will know about this religion. that's a comedy and offensive to a lot of people. how do they go about it? >> i think he is not done with this issue as much as the campaign wishes he was. i don't know if it has to be a major speech. he did this in 2007 as we talked about it. voters want to be reassured

about the faith and he will have to do it again. >> we spoke with a number of people who are mormon. will members of the religion come out. not only is this an attack on mitt romney. that's an attack on us. if a candidate is attacked, you have people coming from the community saying enough with this. >> mormons are active in the blogosphere and you can see they are out there defending their faith. we are christians and we are not a cult. deal with it. i think you will see a lot of that going forward. >> we hope to talk with you soon. >> we would love to have you back on. >> new reaction from lawmakers to the occupy wall street protest. responses are falling along party lines and some may say this is predictable. one long shot, buddy roemer joined in new york and meanwhile other republicans are slamming the movement and one calling approximate t a mob aimed at

class warfare. take a listen. >> i ran across two of the protests. in washington, d.c. and in boston. they have nothing in common with the protest that were being put forward or the demonstrations you might say that were put forward by the tea party. >> we ought to be pitting americans against americans. >> i. to work hard enough to not buy a cadillac and not take someone else's. >> they're defended the movement and supporteded the tea party. this is a contributor with the daily beaft. you were alive with us last week. the republicans are coming out and slamming some republicans for the protests. the democrats don't quite know

how to take advantage of this movement as a republican tea party. >> with the tea party, it was much more clear what side of the political spectrum when push comes to shove. they were almost entirely and the problem with the wall street protests from a political perspective and there not clear goals. all be it intensely passionate movements. if you are a democratic party strategist, it's not clear where the votes go. >> wouldn't it be clear if you lined up the clips we have pointed out. to me it was an advantage for the democrats when you have several presidential candidates saying that this is nonsense or these people are jealous. where else would they go? >> it's probably a mistake for the democrats no to do everything they can to pitch

themselves to this. you have a passionate group of people who may not vote unless there is a clear sense that the democrats are going to be there. when you are a democrat right now given the prevailing wins, you better affix yourself to any moment of passion you can get. >> at least one corporation is backing this move. ben and jerry's said occupy wall street is calling for systematic change. we are honored to join you in this call to take back our nation and democracy. why do you believe the republicans are pushing hard against this movement? what advantage did it give them? >> that's probably a mistake. they don't gain anything by attacking a group of people. i don't think they need to consolidate their base right now. in that sense, they are making a huge error in going into a group of people who are standing out against income and equality and

the ways in which this is an economy that is not benefiting people. >> the tea party was against it early on. >> i don't know what you gain from a republican perspective and i don't know what you lose from a democratic perspective by not joining this. there is a lot to disagree with. parties are tense and there a lot of voices. it will be messy. this is a group of people who in a lot of cities are saying look, this is not an even economy and it is just far too unequal. >> great to have you on and thank you. >> the latest on the investigation into a missing 10-month-old baby. police say the parents are cooperating again with the investigation. there new details regarding the child's mother. the recession may have ended two years ago, but americans's incomes have dropped dramatically since then. plus --

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welcome back to "news nation" and the search for a baby is in its seventh day and they are at the mercy of the next good idea. detectives crawl through a window several times as a way to reenact what the parents believe possibly happened. baby lisa's parents believe she was snatched late monday or early tuesday of last week.

peter alexander joins me live and i know that also police investigators were asking neighbors or at least one about a handy man who worked in the area. what else can you tell me about that? >> these are two significant pieces of information. the first is them crawling through the window. we witnessed that happen yesterday. this was a remarkable scene. the detectives crawling in and out over and over through this window to try as you know to recreate what an abductor would have to do to enter the home to validate or chris credit the story of lisa irwin's father and mother as you noted, they believe the baby disappeared at the hands of a kidnapper. on that front we have also spoken to neighbors in the area yesterday. fbi agents going around the neighborhood, canvassing with a foelto of a handy man with a criminal history and has not

been since since the day before lisa disappeared. while there plenty of tip, we spoke to the investigators, roughly 300 right now. some of them coming from virginia, wisconsin, california, florida. there very few strong leads and important to note, there no suspects at this time. >> live for us on the case of this missing beautiful baby. thank you very much, peter. back to politics. a controversial issue towards the 2012 election. states targeting alleged voter fraught. democrats charge many are targeting a key voting blog for democrats. young people and minorities. y vote on this as well and they are targeting voter fraught. fraud. >> i don't believe in coincidence in this regard.

it's the core constituencies that one would be supportive of president obama in the next cycle. what the experts say when you get down to it, voter fraud is very, very rare. there were high profile incidents that got a lot of publicity. people remember acorn and registering individual who is should not be registered to vote. there was an incident in philadelphia, my hometown, but frankly neither of the instances or others that got internet circulation. is this intended to suppress votes? >> this came up on bill maher's show. the guest was nicole wallace. she is on msnbc a lot and worked for george w. bush as communication director. look at the exchange.

>> jimmy carter is cochair, a voter fraud commission and 82% of the public happened to agree with former president jimmy carter and having an id to rent a movie or rent a car and having an id to vote are not unreasonable requirements. >> you got me there with jimmy carter. >> you got me there with jimmy carter. she pointed to one former president democrat who supported the idea of requiring id. >> what kind of an id are we going to accept? if the data is accurate, the 25% of african-americans do not have an updated photo form of id. then you have to say hold it, this has a disproportionate effect on the community and therefore there must be reasonable alternatives that must be pursued. you show up and you present something. what that something needs to be has to take into account the

constituencies that we are serving. we want to encourage people to vote and not erect more roadblocks. >> you point out the center for justice that estimates more than five million voters could be affected. as some of these restrictions are put into place, that's a lot of people. >> 171 electoral votes represented by states in the process of as i say moving the goal post. >> great color, michael. good to see you. coming up, one school district is taking an approach to get kids to go to class. it involves a music star. is that enough to get students to show up or should you have to give incentive for a kid to go to class? a virus controls military drones. "news nation" is back in a moment. ♪ [ female announcer ] mini™ meets berries. kellogg's® frosted mini-wheats cereal

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economic times as city taking drastic measures. a d a's decision to stop prosecuting domestic violence cases. some of them. michael jackson's children takes center stage at a concert for their dad? jennifer hudson explains a decision to cancel her performance at the concert. we have it coming up.

the case tokill. a u.s. citizen and a u.s. white house memo sheds light on a legal debate to order the operation that killed al qaeda leader. airline under fire. a muslim woman is kicked off after a flight attendant thought she overheard her saying "it's a go." what the woman really said. leave the card home. rahm emmanuel ordered employees to use public transportation and

explain why they won't. a father who gave steve jobs up for adoption said jobs reached out to him just weeks before his death. what he said steve jobs wrote to him. the senate is scheduled to vote tomorrow on whether to open the debate on president obama's $447 billion jobs bill. it will guard against a double dip recession. a grim sign of the economic recovery. a new study shows in the two-years since the recession officially ended, the average income has fallen twice as fast as it did during the recession. since june of 2009, incomes are down 6.7%. isabel sawhill is the director of studies at the brookings institute. >> nice to be with you. >> what stands out most regarding the numbers other than the obvious fact that it is extremely hard for families to make it right now.

>> we need to remind people it has been hard for a long time. middle class incomes were increasing very, very little. most of the increase was due to the fact that they were working harder and more families had two earners to bring home the bacon. >> people are working harder and making less when they did an analysis of numbers. >> they had to take pay cuts to be hired once again. even if it's a part-time, you have to take the pay cuts or the company will dump you. >> when you have high rates of unemployment, employers are in the driver's seat and setting wamgs and workers have very little bargaining power. so many of them are competing

for the few jobs that are available. employers can make low wage offers and they are forced to accept them. >> these are the numbers since the end of the recession. we are in a recession and as in other cases, it will be an official announcement far too late when you have the average person saying i knew this all along and i didn't need an economist to tell me. he is quotes as an economics professor. what is your feeling on that statement. >> i think that the common sense view is right. when you have unemployment around 9% you may not be in a recession as defined by economist. they defined it as a decline in gdp.

we can't make any dent in the picture and to the ordinary person it feels like a recession. it feels like the bad news is accumulating on a government that is withdrawing the money that was inserted into the economy as part of the recovery act in 2009. as state and local governments tighten up. >> thank you so much for joining us. it's a pleasure to talk with you about these new numbers that are out. thank you. >> thank you. >> al qaeda confirmed the deaths of those killed by drone strikes in yemen. they call them martyrs and more questions about the secret white house memo that made it legal to kill the two americans without trial. nbc news producer, over the weekend we got more information on the memo. it was drafted a year before the

drone attack. if you go back even before the attempted bombing of an aircraft of detroit. there was a target in yemen that the use saw and the defense department went to the united states and said we are not targeting him. the attorney general holder left that and the bombing took place and they did not kill him, but after that they put him on the capture and began to develop the opinion we saw in the "new york times" over the weekend. >> in the times it points out that the conclusion and the legal analysis is if he could not be captured, the option would be to kill him which would make it legal.

>> correct. >> the point here is if you assume that this is a battlefield, if you assume that there is a war on terror, war on al qaeda or that al qaeda is a war with the united states, the u.s. is treating him much like it would anywhere else on the battlefield. there precedents for that. during world war ii, italian americans fought with mussolini. at this point in time, they look back at that as one of the precedents and say we made no distinction then between german americans and germans and not going to make a distinction now either. >> that's the point you made the day after he was announced after he had been killed in that attack. let's go on to the virus that infected the computer system that controls the predator drones. what is this story and is it a problem? >> the operations continue. it's like there viruss in our computers here. the operations continue.

the reality is that the operations of the predators continue and obviously not just in pakistan and afghanistan and places in somalia. >> thank you very much. a muslim woman is suing an airline and it tops the look around the nation. a woman claims she was thrown off a plain after a flight attendant said she was acting suspiciously. the attendant thought she said "it's a go " into her phone. she said she said i have got to go. she was trying to hang up on a phone call. the airline apologized and she wants damages for

discrimination. partaking the bus, the new travel policy goes into effect stating that workers must take buses or trains for work travel and reimbursement for drivewaying. they must show maps detailing how many miles they drove to get reimbursed. the policy will save the city $1 million. officials in city in kansas say the economy is forcing them to take drastic measures. tomorrow the topeka city council may be criminalized by domestic battery. the council said the da decided to stop prosecuting misdemeanors that include domestic violence cases all to save money. they said they can't afford to prosecute either and decriminalizing abuse will force the count to do it. it's bakt and forth and victims are being caught in the middle. the economy is partially blamed.

75% of shelters have reported an increase in people asking for help since september of 2008. 73% blame the rise in abuse on financial problems. terry o'neal for the national organization for women now. let's talk about what's happening in topeka. a back and forth between the city and the county. it's not an effort to let people who are guilty of the crimes off the hook, but they don't have the money to prosecute. what do you make of this? >> it sounds as if the county commission has $200,000 for golf course irrigation. but they don't have $200,000 to continue prosecuting domestic violence cases. what is up with that? they need to rethink their priority and stop putting traumatized victims of violence in the middle of their budget

game of chicken. it's outrageous what they are doing. >> a new statement regarding domestic violence. in response to a significant budget cut of nearly $350,000, the district attorney's office was forced to reexamine our practices and focus on the cases that we are statutorily obligated to prosecute. this led to the decision to not prosecute any misdemeanor occurring within the city of topeka has the prosecutor's office and municipal court could prosecute the city misdemeanors again. this is a partial statement we are receiving. in a couple of people who were quoted in the local articles bring the attention back to what you were talking about. the victims here are women and children. >> absolutely. you know to shift this over to the city, what's reported is it costs the city about a million dollars. they don't have attorneys on staff who are skilled and

knowledgeable about domestic violence cases or family violence cases that. is going to cost them about $1 million and $200,000 on the county side to prosecute the cases. it's one thing to take other types of misdemeanors off the table, but violent crime like beating a woman over the head with a crowbar, beating a woman with fists, slapping, punching, kicking women. those are not the kinds of misdemeanors that should go unprosecuted. women need to feel save and be safe in their own homes and letting these criminals go free is absolutely not the answer. frankly from what i have read about what's going on, i don't believe that they can't find that $2 hundre0$200,000. >> they will consider whether to repeal the code that bans battery.

we will see what happens with. you can bet there is outrage from a lot of people. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. >> schools are getting creative when it comes to keeping kids from cutting class. a quarter of students are considered absent. they give them and they are no more than five days. they will be entered into a drawing. concert tickets and a lot more. students can sign up for a wake up call from celebrities. joining me now is susan. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. i thought why not reward students for doing the right thing. one blogger called it bribing and a couple of people thought well, you are supposed to go to school because it's the right thing. what are you hearing from parents?

>> first of all, let me start by saying public schools are graduating and preparing for life. the district is not in that mission alone. this community supports students and schools. they formed a partnership between his office and get schooled and the local alliance for education to increase rates. i would say it's as much about raising awareness with the attendance as providing incentives to come. bar are back to the one blogger who said this is bribing a student, how do you apply to that accusation or critique? >> again, i would say providing incentives as part of a larger awareness campaign so students and families understand that even missing a handful of days over the course of a month or a

couple of months can have a negative impact on a student's education. we see it as providing incentives. is that a modern way of looking at this and a gold star and now you get nicky menage. >> it is. there those incentives. there locally based incentives and having a local ice cream truck. we are going highlight the schools and the students and staff on the website. celebrating that they are really taken seriously. >> we will see how much pizza and ice cream and other things are given out with this program. best of luck with your students. >> thank you. >> still ahead on "news nation." >> ♪

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>> coming up at the top of the hour, the occupy call street protest may be getting louder, but so are the critics. we will dig in on the movements. mitt and the mormon question he can't seem to shake. wow. netflix is back tracking again. it was only a matter of time. a steve jobs movie may be in the works. a little girl is taking over the internet. it's a viral video you have to see. let's get the thought culture. i will let you get to it.

that was quick. netflix was meant to house the dvd rental. we will split up the streaming and the actual hard dvd rentals. the plan has been scrapped. it shows more back and forth by netflix not knowing what they need to do to keep their business sustainable and alive and tloifing. the price increase that everybody was not happy about stayed. if you think now we are quick on the price increase. >> it's confusing. you have one password, one logon and a big bill to get netflix either streaming or dvds to your house. that's the latest. steve jobs moving on there. a movie might be in the works about his life. the biography of steve jobs was optioned by sony and you might

be seeing a movie in the works about his life. sometime in the not too distant future. a lot of people talking about his father. his biological father. steve was raised by adoptive patients and his biological father has been more in the spotlight. he had e-mailed steve in the weeks leading up to his death. really had no relationship with him, but had received an e-mail back after saying he was sorry to hear about his health and he e-mailed back saying simply thank you. much, much different. michael jackson. we are not talking about court today because there is no court in los angeles today. they were talking about the tribute concert in wales over the weekend. michael's kids were there. a huge crowd. it wasn't without controversy though. every time we do something for michael jackson, there is controversy. jennifer hudson pulled out at

the last minute saying production issues were keeping her from being able to perform the degree she wanted to perform. the black eyed pea s were not there. they have been on tour for eight years straight. they need a break. my sources are saying they are not breaking up or anything like that. beyonce was there and performed beautifully. >> she performed beautifully too. speaking of amazing performers, we have one of the fun things and somebody who does an amazing job on you tube. sophia grace brownly. check her out singing nicky menage. ♪

doesn't look like she is old enough for "american idol." >> they have that here too. >> you have to see the entire video. it's on you tube. >> the best part is her little sister who does nothing. >> that's fantastic. >> the best video of the day. >> the latest go to scoop.com. be a fan and we'll be right back with the super base.

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this costume. >> they should come out with a costume that have loved ones by whitey bulger. they think that's any humorous that. >> the company that created the costume said they see brisk sales in costumes of villains. it appears he is the villain of choice this halloween. what does your gut tell you? is it offensive? go to cast your vote and that does it for this monday edition. my colleague thomas roberts is up next. as jill's dentist, i know that her gums are a foundation of a healthy smile. jill knows that, too -- so she uses crest pro-health clinical gum protection toothpaste. it helps eliminate plaque at the gum line, helping prevent gingivitis.

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