up for nothing more than a tear down of other candidates. is it a convenient way to handle his admitted poor debate performances. a bizarre custody battle. an ohio woman could reclaim several wild animals housed at a private zoo. police were forced to kill dozens of others when they were set free. the battle for gays in the military. a group of service members are suing over the right for their spouses to receive benefits. one is a gay service member booed by the audience in a republican debate. i'm tamron hall. following an investigation by excessive force by police in oakland, california.

police chief said he is treating this incident tuesday night with an iraq war veteran the same way they would investigate a police-involved shooting. school olesons has been upgradeed from critical to fair condition. his family is going from wisconsin to california. he is appalled by police action. the iraq war vet was hit in the head by what's believed to be a police tear gas cam. officers were trying to kick occupy wall street protesters out of the campç they occupied for two weeks while oleson lay motionless on the camp. police again were caught on tape throwing something into the group that explodes, scattering the protesters. an internal review is under way. >> we showed a lots of experience throughout the day with a lot of people cursing and

spitting at them and earlier today, they were met with people throwing urine and feces at them. they are not going to stand and get pelted. >> joining me now, defense attorney john burris is in talks that arrested them that night. they won against the police department in 2003. thank you for your time. what is the police supposed to say. if there were bottles thrown, is that an appropriate show of force? the tear gas canisters and the other things that are clearly caught on tape? >> it depends. we had back in the iraqi war, we worked out a policy for the oakland police department and the policy required that force can be used depending upon what type of activity is before you. it is not appropriate to use

gla flash grenades. in this particular case, it appeared that a lot of the police activity occurred in a random way and was logged in the crowd. you could easily hurt people that way. i think there was aç legitimat basis to argue that the force was excessive. police have a right not only to defend themselves, but the general public. they have to occur. i have been involved in many of the kinds of things and this is a situation where you try to balance out the rights of the protesters that is a legitimate issue and protection of property. i think it was too aggressive in areas and the public responded. i think there ought to be more of an issue of working to find out how you can balance out the success interests and the crowd control could allow for that to happen. the chief is right, but he is also wrong in another sense that

they did overreact. >> what does it mean when they were investigating as if it were a police-involved shooting? >> police shootings are theest level of investigation. that requires that the homicide department look into the shooting itself and get the status and whatever. i don't know that that can be different than any other investigation, but it means they are viewing it seriously. it's an officer-involved shooting and something was shot at someone. it hurt them. it is an officer-involved shooting that should be investigated at the highest level that the police department does. you may have to have an outside look to look at the police department. it's not a good ribbon of some kind to go over and look and conduct this investigation. as opposed to the internal affairs with people that they sometimes don't trust. >> thank you very much.

we will talk more about it and bring in radio talk show host michael smerconish. anç msnbc contributor. many are seeing the images oust oakland tuesday night. what are they saying? >> people are distressed at what they are seeing and more than one said we learned our lesson. you shouldn't prejudge these alterications until all the facts are known. i think that makes a lot of sense. >> you have the mayor being quoted as saying i can't change what happened, but we have an open dialogue and we change what happens in the future. many people are saying listen, these were peaceful protesters and we saw a potential clash in new york, but the mayor negotiated with the people who were occupying wall street downtown in manhattan and allowed them to stay and never had to get to the point where we were wondering what started to happen. this could have been negotiated in a more responsible way. the mayor saying he could change

it in the future. these were peaceful protesters in most cases. >> to the extent that they were peaceful protesters and the police overstepped their bounds, it should have been investigated as you described. there is a part of me that said this is bound to happen when you have thousands of people in closed quarters for extended periods of time with fraying nerves spread out across the country. i hope it doesn't come to that, but it doesn't serve the occupy movement well if these things take this turn. they have to define what the objectives might be and come to a conclusion as to whether they are getting closer the longer they are there. the nation is having a conversation that they have not had as long as i can remember. >> robert gibbs was on the "today" show.ok they asked about the obama

administration and how they are dealing with it. >> we had income inequality and we are seeing a lot of frustration. that's why the president was so forceful in rolling out something that helps more and more people get to college. >> when are you look at the forecast, they are taking up close to the primary and this general election and that frustration is boiling over. it could not have been a worse situation that the person who was injured, it seems was an iraq war veteran. that frustration and anxiety. what is your concern as we move forward? >> there is going to be more of it. the people are frustrated, but not sure how to channel energies and even in the occupy movement, it doesn't seem like there have been a clearly defined set of goals that are coming out. maybe that would move the ball forward. winter is also coming. i think the nerves particularly in the northeast and maybe not in oakland will be more afraid. it will be headed towards some kind of resolution.

>> thank you for joining us. thank you. let us know what you think about the occupation movement and where it stands now. join the conversation at twitter @newsnation. >> committing to just one of the three upcoming debates, governor perry admitted he had a poor debate performance and has been criticized for a lack luster performance if you don't recall any, here's an example of one.ç was it against the second amendment before he was for the second amendment or before the social programs from the standpoint of he was far and spanneding up for roe vs. wade before he was against row versus wa wade? >> joining me now, "washington

post" reporter, governor perry said the debates are set up to tear each other down and that is why he wants to opt out. will people buy that after seeing the one example alone? >> she not entirely wrong. they are set up to go after each other and draw contrasts with each other and maybe not tear each other down, but those are the words of somebody who hasn't performed well. they went into the debate seeking to tear him down. my colleague has a great column up today calling his idea to skip the future debates a bad idea gene. a difference to a "saturday night live" skit. i recommend everyone watch the skit and read the column. it will be hard for him. it sounds like sour grapes and the debates are where all the actions are.

>> they have done great with the ratings, but it's interesting that perry came in with the texas swagger. the person who shot a coyote and wears the cowboy boots. the tough talk they're some were craving in a candidate that they didn't see in mitt romney. and now he could be seen as a quitter if he acts out of a lot of debates. >> a quitter and somebody who has the toughness and theç gut to take on president obama. he can't with stand the debates in a primary, how will he with stand the debates with a sitting president who did very well in debates in 2008. if i'm rick perry and looking at the numbers in our post poll in early october, 56% of republican who is had seen the debates said the more they saw of him, the less they liked of him. that's what's fuelling this idea on his part, but very, very risky. >> you talk about a poll.

they show romney ahead in the first voting state of iowa. that looks good for him and hanging on strong. at least in the other polls. herman cain. >> yes. the big question is whether it's matched by a surge in organization and campaign headquarters and in the states. it's one thing to be popular and sustain the popularity even for a couple of weeks as it has now, but another to translate into money and organization that still matters. he is not doing well in new hampshire. not in florida. it's a mixed bag and see in f governor perry shows up. a new battle is brewing over abortion. an amendment could ban not only abortion, but some forms of birth control and could hamper

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they reached to solve the debt crisis. 50% loss on the greek debt. the leaders also agreed to boost the fund to $1.4 billion as debt issues in ireland, portugal, spain, and italy as well. melissa francis is the coanchor of power lunch. at least on the headline it said euro deal long on intention and short on details. 'we seeing a positive reaction? >> we are seeing a 50% haircut on greek debt. that means everybody owes money to agreed to forgive half the debt. banks are going to recapitalize and the rescue fund for the entire union is going to be a lot bigger.

the broad strokes are positive and we have seen the market rally. it's up 1200 points and on track to have their best month on a point basis ever. the real question is can europe grow in spite of all this and in the wake of all this. that is the concern with a lot of people. >> driving the markets as i understand it are the figures that show this economy grew between july and september. the fastest rate in the year. >> that's right. we were expecting toç see 2.5% growth in gdp and some thought that was an optimistic number. that's how the number came in. it's not huge growth. we would like to see three or four or 5% growth. this is a positive step and twice what we saw in the last quarter. we had a fair amount of news and earnings today. a lot of positive news on the economic and stock front.

>> especially these days. thank you very much. coming up, a judge clears the way for john edwards's trial to move ahead. plus, the black list. it's a new exhibit at the smithsonian and features portraits of leading african-american figures. we will talk with the producer and the photographer behind this amazing exhibit and they take your breath away. the postal service is critical to our economy-- delivering mail, medicine and packages. yet they're closing thousands of offices, slashing service, and want to lay off over 100,000 workers. the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think. the problem ? a burden no other agency or company bears. a 2006 law that drains 5 billion a year from post-office revenue while the postal service is forced to overpay billions more into federal accounts. congress created this problem, and congress can fix it.

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>> welcome back to "news nation," a special exhibit opens tomorrow at the national portrait gallery in washington called the black list that explore the careers and lives of 50 african-americans who are dynamic and inspiring from politics, music, business, civil, lecture, the arts and athletics. it follows the 2008 black list

documentary that appeared on hbo that included many and also included colin powell. >> very often i had good assignments where people say powell got that job. they needed a black guy. my answer to that when i hear these rumors coming back, that's why you got the job, i smile and say fine. for 200 years, i didn't get the job because they needed all whites. >> sanders directed the black list documentaries that took the photos that took the photos and the black list documentaries. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> let me ask you both in your words. what is the black list? >> it's an exhibition of portraits that focuses on achievement and struggle and identity within the african-american community and it's 50 images here and three films that we did together and a number of other people. >> what is the term black list

and the documentary mean to you and at least what would you like the audience to feel?ç >> the term black list was a play on words. we wanted to take the experience of black america and share it with the rest of the country and be able to really kind of tell the story of accomplishment and success and not talk as much about victimization. that's is what we were looking for. >> i'm sorry. >> also to take a negative term, the black list was a negative thing and make it into a positive which is what we did. >> when you were taking the photographs and most of these people you will know right away. others made amazing accomplishments and we don't know their names right off. we see al sharpton and we see the host of a pulitzer prize-winning play right. how did you come up with this list of people? >> i knew dick parsons at

time-warner at the time and a friend of mine for many years. tommy and susan rice and elvis mitchell who did the interviews and was friend with chris rock. we reached out to people we knew. it was easier to get other people. >> it was important to have a balance of people and not just concentrate on the industry and had people from politics and all walks of life to play out the accomplishments in black america. >> it's interesting with the photos, you stare into the eyes of all of these individuals and you wonder about the story when you were posing them, did you offer advice on what you wanted to portray there. >> not really. i have been photographing people for 35 years now. from presidents to artists and musicians andç everyone. i'm trying to get people comfortable in front of the camera and focus on the person. the exhibition at the portrait

gallery is very important. this 50 people that represent an extraordinary range of accomplishment. it was made possible by at&t and i'm grateful to them for supporting this show. i urge people to see it. it's a meaningful exhibition. >> the exhibit runs through april 22nd. you have a little time. we know when something is this great, the lines are usually around the corner. that's an excellent thing. people should if they have to. >> house speaker john boehner said it will take a lot more work for the deficit super committee to achieve success. we will get the latest on how the talks are going. remember the sclok ticking for them to get something done. breaking news regarding a bizarre animal custody tas. ohio's governor said the animals will not be returned to the

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. here's what the "news nation" is following right now. any debt deal needs to be and refuses to endorse cuts to medicare and social security. a battle for days in the military amount of group of gay military members and vets sue because they want the same rights as same-sex couples. six wild animals are required to be quarantined and not returned to a woman whose husband set them free. nba players and owners are back at the bargaining table after progress is made in an all nighter. it's less than four weeks for the deficit super committee to come up with another $1 trillion in savings. nancy pelosi refused to endorse

a plan by super committee democrats to cut $3 trillion. that includes social security and medicare. she said any agreement must be fair. >> it's not fair to say to a senior you are going to pay morf $1.3 trillion. the republican plan is different. it's less. $2.2 trillion. it became tax reform and have sizable cuts to the medicare and

medicaid as well as having and selling public land and spectrum space of that sort. it's very difficult in these negotiations. both sides staked out their corner and listen to how speaker boehner described them. >> i'm not surprised that we are having some difficulty because this isn't easy. i expect that it's going to be a very difficult out come, but i am committed to getting to an out come. >> they are owl committed to getting to an out come, but there is a long and treacherous road ahead because of how far apart they are. it goes back to capitol hill for the congress. democrats are saying to republicans, look, we are willing to cut entitlements and you have to raise taxes and under no circumstances will we raise taxes so then it gets into the creative budgeting things that were the talk of speaker boehner and discussions over the

summer. it's difficult and there a lot of things beyond the scenes. democrats feel that the proposal they put forth was showing that they were serious. they were willing to cut entitlements and revenue in there, but they were trying to make a show. they have been very much dismissive and saying that it's very much in bed with grover norquist. republicans say the same. democrats should have known this would not go anywhere. this tax increase was dismissed by speaker boehner and barack obama. this is democrats trying to garner positive media attention. both sides are far away. >> thank you very much for the live report. we'll check in with you on the talks as they hopefully move ahead. now to michael jackson's doctors where defense attorneys are questioning one of the last two witnesses. addiction specialist robert waldman has been testifying that jackson was probably addicted to sedatives. at times he was combative with

the prosecution. take a look. >> have you ever had someone come to you and you have had an opportunity to review their prior care. have you had that happen? >> what do you mean by review their prior care? >> however you want to interpret it. >> you are asking the question. >> court instruct the witness to answer the question. >> would you like it reasked? >> i would like to reasked. >> i said there were two more questions. where are things right now? >> he is still on the stand. next comes another medical witness. that should be it for the defense's case. as you heard, things did get a little tense in the courtroom. what the defense is trying to establish with dr. waldman's testimony is that michael jackson was getting large injections of the pain killer, dem roll, by his dermatologist

and dr. conrad murray didn't know about it when he was giving him his own cocktail of drugs. one of the side effects of dem roll withdrawal is crippling insomnia. this places the claim that michael jackson was so desperate to sleep he gave himself the fatal dose of propofol. at times, dr. waldman became contradictory. >> based on my prior definition and what's known about his public behavior and this course of treatment that he was probably addicted to opiate. >> would you diagnose michael jackson as addicted to dem roll based strictly on these documents in my hand, yes or no? >> probably not. >> the next and final witness of the case is dr. paul white.

he is also called the father of propofol. he is a renounced expert on propofol. closing arguments are expected next week. >> should be interesting testimony from the last witness. thank you very much for the live report. don't ask, don't tell is history, but for gay and lesbian members, the fight is far from over. eight current and former service members filed suit in an effort to challenge the constitutionality of the defense of marriage act. that act prevents the medical and provider benefits from members of the service and same-sex marriages. >> we believe that they ignore our families and treat us less than married counterparts. they are an injustice. >> u.s. navy lieutenant gary ross is one of the service members whose partner of 12 years as soon as don't ask don't tell was repealed. thank you very much for your time.

>> thank you. >> this is so interesting. they have a great article on this and captures a part that goes beyond the partner or the spouse. the children of same-sex couples caught up in this as well. one on couple profile and they are having to have separate health care accounts and the children of the same-sex couples are not able to go to the military base to get treatment. >> yes. that's a problem for a lot of same-sex couples in the military. my husband has to cross the border into mexico to get health care which is not anything you would ask a straight married couple to do in the military, but unfortunately same-sex married couples are having to make sacrifices to search the country. >> the defense against marriage act bars same-sex marriages performed in states that allow them. in what we showed, the husband is the service member who was booed at that republican debate. he is right now in iraq.

this speak at the heart of how some people still see the members of our military who are gay or lesbian. >> you are absolutely right. it's amazing. i have been serving my country for 16 years. my entire adult life. and while my service has been appreciate and people thank me when they see me in uniform, it's amazing how quickly they want to dismiss you when you find out you are married to someone of the same sex. >> for you, this is about equality and starting next year, same-sex partners of federal employees will be able to get expanded health care coverage. there is a model, if you will, to follow. >> absolutely. there is. the department of state, my understanding is that they are making arrangements for the ambassadors that are stationed overseas. there is a model to follow and a matter of how do we get there

from here? >> the pentagon released a statement that said in part we will evaluate the complaint and consult the differently justice and continue to follow the law. what is your reaction to that response? >> absolutely. that's what the military always does do. we take orders and we march forward and we follow the law. i don't think anyone in the military wants to deny same-sex couples the same benefits that opposite sex couples get, unfortunately at this point they are required to. >> lieutenant gary ross, we will see what happens with the lawsuit and the challenge. we greatly appreciate your time and service to the country. >> thank you, ma'am. >> breaking news on the fate of the surviving exotic animals from an ohio farm. this is a big update. it just came in. the ohio governor's office said the three leopards, primates and a grizzly bear will be quarantined instead of transferring them to a zoo to a

woman whose husband freed them before committing suicide last year. ohio has some of the nation's w weakest restrictions on exotic pets. blackberry users are suing for breech of courteous after the worldwide outage earlier this month. they allege blackberry maker research in motion failed to compensate users for lack of service. they credited them for $100 worth of aps. we are following developing new this is hour. nba owners and players have resumed negotiations after a late night session that lasted until 3:30 this morning. we will get the latest on where the talks stand right now. first -- there is a lot going on today. here are thing we thought you should know. a federal judge said the government's case against john edwards can move forward. the former candidate and senator

was trying to get criminal charges dropped. a tribute to gabe zimmerman has been stalled in a house committee. he was the aide to gabrielle giffords killed in january along with five others. a resolution would name a room in the capitol complex after zimmerman. the state department is reportedly defending the spending of thousands of dollars on books written by president obama. the washington times reports the state department spent more than $70,000 on books. the white house calls the book buying an embassy-based decision. those are the things we thought you should know. just one phillips' colon health probiotic cap a day

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through with those dastardly debates. sad news for the writers of snl. stay with us. back to tamron. >> thanks, martin. could birth control and fertility treatments be made illegal in the battle over abortion. voters in mississippi will be faced with an amendment to declare a fertilized human egg to be a legal person. drastically changing the use of methods and fertility treatment. mississippi is among several states drawing up similar so-called personhood amendments including florida, ohio, michigan, montana and wisconsin. joining me now is the director of the john c. stenis newest government at the state university. thouch for joining us. >> good to be here. >> you were kroeted in an early in the new york times that you believe this is likely to pass in mississippi. why do you believe so. . >> i was certain on the day i

was intrude for the article. i'm hearing opinions that are chipping away at that a little bit. maybe people are in the legal community and i would bet it's going to find and it's the nature of political environment in the state of mississippi. >> what are the things that you are thinking that are chipping away as you put it at the idea that this could pass? >> you correctly got the potential reach and it could not only define a person from the very moment of conception and affect in vitro fertilization and the birth control that they had and the impact had on a fetus and after it was fertil e fertiliz fertilized. it's going to take a great deal of litigation to sort through what all of that means. >> it's interesting the amendment in mississippi has been endorsed by candidates from

both major parties. there is a doctor that was quoted in a daily beast article and one of four positions in the state who performed in vitro and had panicked calls with women with fertility problems. patients were extremelia anxious. they are contemplating if they should get ivf for fear of this law preventing them if it is passed to do so. >> that fear is starting to spread. i think it's starting to get the attention of people from mississippi that there unintended consequences of this legislation or this constitutional amendment that they hadn't thought about and they are starting to think about that now. mississippi presents an ideal venue for the conservative christian fundamentalist approach taken and this is the first shot in trying to bring

down row v wade. >> it's interesting you bring that point up. brad is a lawyer and executive for yes on 26. his quote is personhood is bigger than shutting abortion clinics. it's an opportunity for people to say that we are made in the image of god. to your point, mississippi being a red state and conservative state, the debate at least for those who are supporting this amendment for many of them it involves around their faith and what they see as morally right from what they believe. >> well, when science meets religious conviction in any debate in the state of mississippi, religious conviction and the pressure from the person on the church pew with you are going to win every time. >> thank you very much. again, mississippi is not alone. at least a half dozen states looking at similar personhood amendmen amendments. this is one of the to be continued stories. thank you for your time.

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welcome back. after a 15-hour negotiation session that ended this morning. the nba and player's association are reporting positive negotiations. the hope is that we can actually see games played. we cover the business of sports for cnbc and you have all the information. >> right now the difference as far as the revenue split that they are arguing over is about 700 to $800 million if it was a 10-year deal.

if the players lose two weeks, they will be down $400 million. if we go another month to the end of december and still have a season, they would have lost everything they are fighting for. they are certainly making progress and you have to think there is going to be progress. the players get paid in the off season. their last paycheck is monday, october 31st. you can bet there players despite making the money they make that spent what they haven't gotten cut this them. they will be missing their first paycheck and that's where it starts to hurt. i think a deal will be made with we will not lose the season. pear. >> business owners who have traffic on the games. we will see what happens. the gut check. is 9:00 in the morning too early for a burger and fries? students in at least 60 schools

are being served lunch when a lot of people are starting to think about breakfast. carrie sanders has more on what's happening. >> florida ninth grader aaden is your typical teen dealing with the challenges of school. adding to struggle this is year is an unconventional early lunch. for mullen and others at the ninth grade center, his lunch starts as early as 9:30 in the morning. >> i think they could definitely make it so that we have lunch later in the day and not at breakfast time. >> when i was growing up, we never heard of such a thing. lunch hour that started at 9:30 or even 10:30. >> they said the early lunch is needed because they start their days so much earlier. classes begin just after 7:00 in the morning. >> the students started getting on the bus at 5:30 until about 6:40.

it's over 2 1/2 hours and almost three hours before some eat. >> winter park is not the only school serving lunch before some eat breakfast even though there is a mandate. this year in florida, at least 60 school have been granted waivers to start lunch between 8:30 and 9:30 in the morning. the state study linked early school lunches to unhealthy eating, nutritionists believe they have the students' best interest in minds. >> you have to work around people's schedules. we know they are up 5:30 or 6:00. they may or may not have breakfast. if they eat at 10:00, that may be the first meal of the day. >> because he is diabetic and takes medication, aaden is allowed to eat lunch in between classes closer to the noon hour. he still joins his friends in the cafeteria as they eat hamburgers and corn dogs at a time when most are still eating

cereal. >> all my friends are complaining about having to eat at breakfast time. it shouldn't be like that. >> what does your gut tell you? serving school lunch at 9:30 too early? cast your vote and take a look at what the "news nation" is saying about yesterday's gut check. a minnesota mom is fighting to have her son's school bus stop moved. changing the bus route would be "problematic prts and set a precedence. should the school move the bus stop away from the sex offender's home? 95% said yes. 5% said no. we hope to have a follow-up on what the superintendent is saying now. that does it for this edition. thanks for watching. you can catch "news nation" every weekday right here on msnbc. martin bashir is up next. ♪

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