this is a maximum security facility. these kids will do anything they can if they think that they can get away with it or if they think they can get out. >> if he smokes marijuana, it's because his friends give him marijuana to smoke. morris isn't responsible for anything. it's everybody else's fault. >> i was a high-ranking gang member, you know, and people still try to look at me in that way. >> what i'm saying is i'm trying to get an agreement for to you get you out of here you admit to one or the other. if you don't want to admit to marijuana, admit to resisting arrest. ♪

i don't want to be here. i just spent a year of my life. >> calm down, first of all. >> do you want to get out of here? listen to me and do what i'm saying, and we'll get you out of here. >> i just want to go home and be with my daughter. that's the whole thing. i was supposed to do. >> how old is your daughter? >> 3. >> friday i was supposed to go to my girl's house to see my daughter. it was like 2:00 in the morning. like that's when my ride came. cops, they was just like chilling on the end of the block. and then they tell everybody like get out the car. so we all get out the car, put our hands on the car, and like he come back, and he like, well,

whose weed is this? and he's like you're going to jail for possession and marijuana. and i'm like how can i go to jail for something that wasn't in my possession? >> you can't even sit three people down and walk out a room and come back with a bag of weed sitting there and you just put it on everybody. >> i wasn't there. i can't tell you. >> happened to somebody. >> and you're telling me this is money that you've earned in one week? two weeks? or -- >> no. that's the money i had for like three weeks. i had more. i don't know what happened to it. the officers ripped me off when they were slamming me on the ground. >> eventually you're going to do right. >> i am doing right. >> i know. but you're right here with us again, again. >> that's not my fault. >> this is not the first time that rodrick's been here, and usually when a child comes in more than once, it's a high percentage that he will be a

repeat offender again. >> and i've been here like three or four times. i did a whole year in boys' school. that's why i'm so nervous right now, because i don't want to go back there. like ain't no way that's somewhere someone wants to be. >> more than 3,000 kids pass through the juvenile courts in lake county, indiana, each year. here consequences can range from a sleepless night in detention to the ultimate punishment for kids who keep coming back -- boys' school. >> going to indiana boys' school or girls' school is the most restrictive placement or restrictive punishment i can give them. you usually lose your freedom. you're in a prison. it's the worst thing i can do to them. >> you know some people it takes a big problem just to really open their eyes. and that's just like for me, for instance. i went to boys' school. and it calmed me down a lot. like if you ran my reports and everything about me, you would be like why would he be here now when he's doing so good? i believe boys' school changed me. >> he's done so much better than in the past. he was failing his classes.

that changed. grades started improving. he started working. and unfortunately you hang around with the wrong crowd and you get blamed sometime for things you don't even do. >> the big problem is me being here for something that i really didn't do this time. >> they're picking on you? >> because i'm black and i look like a thug and i wear jewelry and i've got money in my pocket. >> i don't think that's what is it. >> that's what it is they think i'm a drug dealer because look at all that, man. come on. they think everybody sells drugs because they're black. and it's not even like that. i work hard for everything that i've got and everything i accomplished. >> it's your job to prove them wrong. >> that's what i do. that's why my money's here, because i have a check for every dollar that's there. no drug money. >> you have so much potential. you were doing so much better. you were doing really good. >> but you telling me like i'm honestly out there getting in trouble. like i was just going -- >> i don't know what happened. i don't know what happened. i don't know if you're out there trying to get in trouble. that's what the court system is there for.

to determine whether you're guilty or innocent. >> the fact of the matter is that he's been here more than once. so it is hard for to us believe when they're repetitive offenders. >> thousands of kids filter through the lake county juvenile center, and each one of them has a story, typically about their innocence. >> this is a maximum security facility. these kids would say anything they can if they think that they can get away with it or if they think they can get out. >> luckily for the intake and detention officers at lcjc, figuring out whether the kids are guilty or not is not part of the job description. >> there's really no reason for us to know it. every kid is here to be treated equally and fairly. that's up to the courts and the judges to deal with the crime aspect of it. >> after 26 years you've heard so many stories. i've had so many kids tell me so many stories, and of course there are those that seemed very genuine. could it be a game? definitely. i've been burned before. but there are other people in the courtroom that help me make decisions. say the counselor that was

present. the probation officer helped me. and listening to both sides really lays out for you what each kid has done or hasn't done and the good and the bad points. i mean, at that point you're in court, and it's the end of the road here. now it's put up or shut up. you might as well just do it now and tell the truth. >> did you have any problems with him? >> no. other than he gave me the wrong name. >> and you're not going to charge him with false -- you've done that before, morris. you've already had charges of lying to police officers. it's better to be honest. so he was in somebody's apartment or just on the vicinity of the apartment? >> he and several of his friends were out smoking marijuana on the front porch of the cloisters apartment complex. >> okay. are you high right now? were you smoking marijuana today? >> no. >> he tells me he wasn't smoking. there was about seven of them. >> i'm just going to have the nurse look at him real quick to determine that he's not under the influence.

>> they found him today because he was smoking marijuana with his friends, and they ran all their names. at first morris was lying about his identity because he knew he had a warrant. >> you didn't take any drugs? >> hmm-mm. >> why are your eyes like that? >> like what? >> all slanty and red. >> my eyes ain't red. >> they're red. >> we're going to need medical clearance. we can't accept him like this. >> she believes you are under the influence of marijuana. >> we'll be back. >> thank you. >> so prior to him being admitted to our facility he will require a medical clearance. the maryville police department is going to take him to the hospital where they'll complete a drug test. >> so positive for marijuana. >> but we knew that was going to happen. >> mm-hmm. do you feel any of the effects of marijuana still?

no? >> he was released from house arrest in april of this year, and then failed to come to his court date in july. so he didn't appear in court. his mother did. his counselors did. his probation officer did. but morris was on runaway status. >> why didn't you go to court on the 24th but everybody else did? >> i was scared. >> you were scared. did you get a chance to talk to your probation officer prior to going to court? >> my probation officer, he was talking about sending me to placement. i'm like know. that's why i didn't go to court. so they said they were going to send me to placement for two years. >> the juvenile courts have options other than sending juveniles to juvenile prison. kids can also be placed in a variety of rehabilitation facilities known as placement. for morris his probation officer was recommending placement in a facility where he can learn to manage his anger problems. >> i can't control my anger.

all my life. last time i was here because me and my mom got into it and i punched a hole in the wall. >> but it makes it worse when you don't appear in court. now you present yourself as a flight risk. you understand that? you just make it worse for yourself if you run away from your problems. >> i remember back five years ago my grandma told me you keep frowning, your face is going to be stuck like that. and she wasn't lying. >> wherever you go and they send you far, we're coming there too. >> can you pass a drug test today? >> i believe i can. >> what do you mean you believe you can? ...wagner? no idea. let me see that. that's a honus wagner autograph... the hall of famer? look at this ball! yeah, found that at a yard sale. i thought pickles would like it. [ dog barks ]

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the indiana supreme court, we've been allowed to take our cameras inside a world where they are by law generally forbidden. >> i've been coming to lake county juvenile since like, '03, '05. one of them years. been coming here for a long time. >> 17-year-old rodrick is back in lake county juvenile after being arrested for marijuana possession and resisting arrest. according to rodrick and those overseeing his case, he had been on a good straight and narrow path, working toward becoming an electrician, covering up his gang tattoos, and preparing for the arrival of his second child. >> you ain't got no time for no gangs, no nothing. i know you don't want your son to live the same lifestyle you living. >> no. >> when i got out of boot camp and i found out i was probably going to have a child, it changed me because i got something else to live for. i just can't live for like gang banging. and i was just going to go back to school and complete this last year and get on with my life. >> so you're telling me you want to leave the streets?

>> yeah, i was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. >> rodrick insists he's innocent. he says the marijuana was found in a car near where he was standing and not on him and that it definitely is not his. >> my probation officer told me a couple times i've been like one of her best people. if i was doing so good, why would i let some marijuana mess up my life? >> a lot of the kids that come here, they're repeat offenders. and a quarter of them you lose. end up dead, burned up on the railroad tracks, murdered. just random gunfire. if you can change one child, you made a difference. >> these are kids who are seeing things and gone through things certainly beyond what most of us have ever experienced. so what i try to do is get the court to recognize that these are still kids and that kids who've made mistakes, maybe more mistakes than a lot of us are used to, but they are able to

learn and rehabilitate. so my hope and goal with all of these kids is that the system works, so that we can get them the help that they need so they can go on and at least live a productive life. >> i want to spend a little bit of time right now talking to you a little bit about what happened. then more specifically about our strategies in going to court tomorrow and achieving hopefully what it is that you want, and that is getting out of here and going home. >> i want a lawyer because it's not fair for how you try to put something on me that's not even mine. >> well, it sounds to me like what happened with you is being in the wrong place at the wrong time. >> that's what i see. but a lot of people are not going to see that. and, you know, just because i been in trouble before, that's not going to help me. because i've been in trouble -- >> that's why we're talking now. i want to be able to distinguish what happened before versus all the -- the progress that you made -- >> you know, it doesn't matter that i'm sitting here for nothing. it make me feel even worse, why do i got to go through this? like when you try to do something good, it's like bad

things come to you and stop you from doing good things. but you know? i ain't going to let this stop me. i'm still going to go to school to be an electrician. i'm still going to take care of my kids. and i'm still going to be me. >> all right. so the point is they weren't your drugs. they weren't on you. you didn't know that those drugs were in the car. >> i didn't know they was in the car. >> when the police came, your buddy took off, you stayed. >> if i don't have anything, what's my reason to run? you know, i should have went in the house. i wanted to do that. but i'm not that type of person. you know? because i want to show people like i'm not a bad person. that's why i went back and just talked to him. but he got aggressive with me. you know? for no apparent reason. then he thought i was an adult. you know, because i got a nice gold chain. you know, i came, had nice clothes. and he think i was a drug dealer. >> the number one goal that i would have for any of these kids is that they never end up in jail in the adult department of corrections. and that's the ultimate goal is that these kids learn their lesson and that they never have

to face a judge who's worried about how long do we lock this kid up for. >> but i'm just going to pick myself back up. that's it. that's all i can do. >> i don't mean to cry, but i'm hurting right now. >> no, this is not a place you want to be, and like i said, our job is to get you out. you can focus on the reasons you why shouldn't be in here and you should be out taking care of your child, those are the things that we're going to want the court the hear about tomorrow. rold -- rod, you've convinced me that you're certainly on the right track with this thing. progresso. it fits!

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mom. >> can i get out tomorrow? >> i don't know. do you think you should? why? you didn't do anything? you didn't go to court. >> i know. i was scared. >> you were scared? >> they said they were going to give me two years of placement. >> you should have gone to court. >> i'm going to court now. >> mm-hmm. you don't have a choice. >> they told me they took you to the hospital and you tested positive for marijuana. you've been smoking, huh? >> i don't know. >> you don't know? what's it for? >> thought that would help for stress. >> you think you need something to calm you down? that's what you should have been telling a counselor or therapist if that's how you feel. that's what i'm talking about. the things you're telling me you need to tell them. you may have a chemical imbalance. who knows? there's medicine for that. and people are not crazy who take it. >> i told people. they ain't going to help. >> how do you know? you keep going with a negative

train of thought. what makes you get angry like that? >> that's just stuff people do. >> even when things don't go your way, you stay angry. >> that's what i'm saying being here it's going to make it worser and worser. i keep it right now. >> you keep telling yourself it's going to get worse and it does. >> i keep punching walls. >> punching for what? are you praying? why are you crying? >> because i'm crazy. >> you what? >> i'm going crazy. >> you feel like you're going crazy? >> i know i'm crazy. >> you are not. i hate to see you like this. who do you want me to bring to

court? nobody? just me? can i tell you something? i love you to death, but you do need some help with your anger. some professional help. and i don't think you're crazy, but i think something inside is bothering you. what you think? >> i want to be with my family. >> you want to be with your family? then you're going to be with your family. wherever you go we're coming. and if they send you far, we're coming there too. okay? >> i feel different when i cry. i ain't cried in a long time. >> it's good to cry sometimes. relieve stress. there's nothing wrong with crying. there's nothing wrong.

>> after spending a worrisome weekend in juvenile detention, rodrick prepares for his monday morning court date by meeting with his probation officer while his mother discusses strategy with his court-appointed therapist. he will go into court with a team on his side. but his long record will also speak loudly to judge bonaventura. >> this today is your detention hearing. the judge that's going to hear your case is going to look at if there's probable cause to believe that you committed the acts of possession and any acts of resisting. >> i feel like i've been working so hard, but like -- and this is the first downfall i had since i've been home. >> i know. >> and i don't want to like mess up everything that i've been trying to accomplish. because you know i've been doing too good, miss sarah, even from school to being outside. >> you're the one that said to me -- remember what you said to me at the last court date? >> i want to stay on probation. >> keep me on probation, it's going to help me out. and that's what we did, right? >> but the biggest thing that he's done that the judge is really going to commend him on is removal of his gang tattoos.

>> yes. he covered it up. >> yeah. >> so i mean that's an admission that he's turning his life around, he doesn't want the gang stale anymore, doesn't want the gang life. and that was a lot to give up. his respect, his authority, his position within the gang. it's all gone. >> it's just i was at the wrong place at the wrong time. police was like where we found some marijuana. i was like, well, it's not mine. he was like, well, somebody got to go to jail for this. >> i told him certain stuff i can't figure out for you no more. you get to a certain age, you know, i can't do it no more. you've got to do it for yourself. >> so what you're saying is like 90% of the time, 99% of the time he's fine? >> rodrick could be outside at 2:30 in the morning. there's really not too much outside to do at 2:30 in the morning. >> that 1%. will bring him in here. 1% will say well, i'm going to go out at 2:30 in the morning. >> it's consequences. >> we'll go to court, talk to the judge, let her know how you've been doing, but she's going to make that final

decision. all we can tell her is you've come home and up till now how you've been doing. okay? and that's a good report. that's not a bad report. we'll go in there and see what she has to say. and we'll go from there. all right? >> all right, ms. sarah. >> all right. >> today's hearing roderick and morris learn if they get to go home with their parents or if they must remain detained if lake county juvenile while they await their next court hearing. judge mary beth bonaventura will make the decision. >> there's two reasons why you would order a child detained, whether he's a danger to himself or others or there's an unlikelihood that he'll come back to court for the second hearing. and so if you make a decision that they are a danger you detain them. and if you find they're not a danger, then you release them to the parents. >> brown. >> right now i feel like i'm going to go home. like i know my probation officer knows how good i've been doing since i've been home from boys' school. so i may go home today. hopefully. >> ready, your honor?

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>> hey, morris, how are you? don ruck. i'll be your lawyer for today. >> 17-year-old morris is locked up for possession of marijuana and, more importantly, for failing to appear at a prior court hearing. before he enters the court hearing to face the judge he meets with his court-appointed attorney, don luck -- ruck. >> at today's hearing the court's going to want to hear a little about what happened. they're going to make a decision about whether or not to release you today. what do you want to have happen? >> i want to get released. okay. did you test positive for marijuana when you came in? >> mm-hmm. >> you did. okay. the court's going to ask you why you were using marijuana. do you know how you'd answer that? >> i was in a car with people. they were smoking marijuana. >> okay. i'll tell you. one of the things is the probation department's recommending you stay locked up. we have our work cut out for us. >> the difficult challenge of a public defender for a child is distinguishing between what's in the child's best interest and

what the child wants because in every case, the child wants to get out of here. but there's no question that as morris's advocate i want him to go home. and my preference is children should be home with their parents as opposed to detained in a detention center. >> you know you had a court hearing, and you didn't ever come? >> i was scared they were going to send me to two years in placement. >> so you ran away. i'm not going to recommend that you go home. i'm going to try to keep you staying here so we can work something out. >> it's not going to work. >> something's going to work. you're not going to run around like a chicken with your head cut off. >> probation officer fleming is convinced he needs more time. but it is judge mary beth bonaventura, who ultimately gets to decide morris's fate.

>> sir, i think i understand your testimony to be that because morris is not as available or participating with the services to the extent that you think appropriate, that he should just remain locked up. >> well, i'm basing that upon him running away from home, his mother not knowing where he is. and she was having a hard time controlling him and reasoning with him. he has failed a couple of drug tests. morris has told me on several occasions that whatever i do is not going to work. >> you had previously recommended that he undergo anger management, and you had recommended family counseling and counseling services. why don't we let it work itself through some more? let's let this counseling take hold, the anger management take hold before we say the answer is just to keep him locked up. >> well, that would be fine, but morris has tended to befriend some young men, one, for instance, who was shot the other day in a drive-by shooting. the young people that he's been associating with, i believe it's

safer for morris to be here for us to work with morris. >> so now it's an issue of him being safe? >> well, that's one of the issues, yes. >> okay. that's all i have, judge. >> anything else? >> mr. fleming, just to reiterate, you fear that mr. morris won't be present for future hearings. >> yes. >> and that's based on his past behavior. >> absolutely. >> no further questions, judge. >> morris, when you didn't come to court on july 24th, did your mother come? >> yes. >> have there been other times when you leave the home without your mom's permission? >> yes. >> when you go to school, do you go to school every day? >> yes. >> your attendance is perfect? >> yes. >> judge, can i have a brief moment with my client? >> go ahead. >> okay. be honest. i'm telling you, she's got the records from your school. listen to the question and answer it honestly. don't make it worse. >> anything else, miss guzek? >> no, judge. >> all right. mr. ruck. >> judge, i would call morris's

mother, angel, to the stand, please. if the court were to decide that morris need not be locked up any longer, would you be willing to have him released to your custody? >> i'm always willing. but i just wonder if that's what's best for him. >> well, do you think it's best to keep him locked up? >> here, no, i don't. but as far as what helps, i know that there's a problem and he does need some help. >> does he recognize there's a problem? >> yes, he does. >> why do you say that? >> we discussed it and he does admit that there is an anger problem. >> and do you think it's appropriate that he go home with you? >> i'll try. >> that's what you want to do? >> i'll try.

>> after listening to all of the arguments and assessing the witnesses, i would say that the mother, mrs. mosley, certainly gave her heartfelt testimony and i can feel for her as a parent when she said she's willing, but i also think what she didn't go on to say which i think she probably would admit to is that he's a little bit of a handful for her. more importantly to me is that he's out on the street doing some very dangerous things and we all know that when you lay down with dogs, you get fleas. so this young man has been living in the street or between friends or doing something that he shouldn't be doing, all because he was afraid to come to court. he endangered himself and maybe others. and for those reasons the court is going to order that he remain detained pending his next hearing because there's an unlikelihood that he will appear for a subsequent hearing. are there any questions? all right. then this hearing's adjourned. thank you. >> you want to say anything to your mother? >> i'll see you at 1:30. >> i know i'm going to go crazy up in this place.

>> it's okay. i'll see you at 1:30. all right? you're going to be all right. i'll be here every day. i love you. >> i love you too. >> i certainly understand why the court did what if did. there's not a solid support structure in place where this mother's saying don't worry about it, i'm going to take care of this problem and he's going to be back again. while i certainly was advocating for him to go home, would have liked to have seen that, i understand the court's decision. >> with so much testimony pushing against morris's release, the judge decides he should remain locked up until his next court hearing. rodrick, on the other hand, is coming to court with his own cheering section. but will it be enough to sway judge bonaventura? >> he actually asked me to stay on probation throughout the summer until his 18th birthday at his last hearing because he felt that the extra supervision from myself and mr. zimburski would really help him get through the summer to ensure that he would be able to stay on the right track. in almost seven years i've never had a juvenile ask me for that

extra time with probation and with a therapist. they want to get off, get done, and call it a day. and rodrick actually came to me and looked me in my face and said can you please stay with me on my case, let me stay on probation with you so we can get through this. >> can you be more specific about the level of improvement that you've seen in the past year of working with him? >> he had an allegiance with a street gang, and there was a lot of respect that he got with the street gang, a lot of authority with the street gang, and position. and recently rodrick has terminated his association by removing the tattoos on his arm, which is a measurable feat. >> how significant a step is that for somebody that's been affiliated with a gang to remove the gang signs from themselves? >> a monumental step. a remarkable feat. >> do you believe that it would be safe for him to be released to the care and custody of his mother? >> yes, i do. >> thank you. that's all the questions i have, judge. >> rod, let's talk first of all about what brings you here today. you're being charged with possession of marijuana and resisting law enforcement.

are you going to cooperate with the prosecutor's office in identifying the person whose marijuana it was? >> i can do that. >> will you? >> i will do that because it's not mine. i'm not going to jail for nothing that's not mine. i've been working too hard, sir. too hard this year. i've improved my whole life. my mother told me a long time ago when i was in boys' school if i ever in my life from now to the time i'm dead, if i ever got locked up she wasn't going to come and see me, she wouldn't be here now. and you know i felt -- that's why i know my mother. believe me, she know the truth. that's why she's here today. >> that's all i have, judge. >> i have a question. rodrick, have you been having drug tests while you're on probation? >> yes, ma'am. >> can you pass a drug screen today? >> i believe i can. >> what do you mean you believe you can? >> i believe i can. i'll do it any other time.

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well, i commend all the improvements that you've made in your life, and you've had a lot of people today here that have testified to that. but i wasn't quite convinced that your response to whether or not you could be clean today was -- i wasn't sure you were sure about it. today what i'm going to do is order that you submit to a drug test. if he has a clean drug screen, i'm going to order that he be released on electronic home monitor. if he's dirty, then he's going

to stay here. >> what's it going to be? >> hopefully, i'll go home. >> hopefully you'll go home. did you smoke marijuana in the last 30 days or not? >> not that i know of. >> not that you know of. sounds like you are going to get comfortable here. yes or no. did you smoke marijuana or something in your sleep? >> mm-mm. >> i'm not worried about it completely. i'm going home. >> it has been 21 days since judge bonaventura decided to keep morris detained at lake county juvenile while the probation departments and courts determined what is best for him. today he goes back before the judge to learn his fate. >> keep your hands behind your back. >> the judge might send me to placement. or she probably might give me house arrest. if i was talking to the judge right now, i would tell her i'm trying to do better.

i know i've got a problem. if you send me home and trust me, i'll show you i can work my problem out with my whole family. >> you remember some time ago we talked about your background, your history, and what you wanted to have happen, correct? >> yes. >> now, we're not going to go through all that for today's hearing. all i want to know, morris, is what you've learned since you've been locked up. >> well, what i learned since i've been detained was how to control my anger. i would like to go home with my family. >> can the court and can your mother believe you right now when you're saying that? >> yes. and my father. >> can you look them in the eye and tell them that, that you're going to fully comply with everything? >> i'm going to fully comply. i'm going to do better. i'm trying to change my life. i don't want to be angry. i've got a problem. i admit it. >> what's your problem? >> i have an anger problem. >> that's all i have, judge. >> miss guzek, anything? >> morris, you said you couldn't

go to your therapy appointments because the therapist came when you were sleeping. she came too early or he came too early. what part did your smoking marijuana play in that? >> i don't smoke in the morning time. >> when do you smoke? >> to tell you the truth probably in the afternoon. >> how did your running away from home in july to mid-august prevent you from meeting with your therapist? >> i didn't run away. >> so your mom knew where you were at? >> no, she didn't know where i was at. >> so you were a runaway. >> her boyfriend see me, her sister see me. i would come home, spend night downstairs. she wouldn't even know it. >> you're telling me people in your house knew you were sleeping in that house at night when there was a runaway report out for you? is that what you're telling me? and they didn't tell your mother you were in the house? >> they told her, but she ain't never seen me. >> you said enough, thank you. no further questions. >> mr. ruck, anything else?

>> all i would say, judge, is that being locked up, sitting here does something, and i believe it has for morris. i would suggest that we move in increments. we move in increments from where he was before with no real restrictions just you need to do what we're telling you to do to now we're going to put a bracelet around your ankle and make sure you're doing what you say you're doing. before we jump to the most severe conclusion, the recommendation that he be shipped away from his family and brothers and sisters that he hasn't seen in a very long time. i would ask that the court give some credence to what he said on the stand today. thank you. >> judge, we've heard that morse -- morris has done some soul-searching while he's been detailed for the last three weeks, and apparently has seen the light. i'm not sure what light it is he's seeing. what i heard is a person that's still not taking responsibility for anything that he does. he's not going to get services unless this court takes him and puts him in a place where he can receive services. and he desperately needs services. i think that probation's recommendation for placement

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this is a difficult case for me for a lot of reasons. i think this is a -- i remember from last hearing, the mom was always willing, always willing. that's, to me, a sign of a really great mother, but at the same time, she acknowledges and admits that maybe he's not ready to come home. i mean, we've got a young man who's punching holes in the wall. we have a young man who's abusing drugs and we've got a young man who left home for four, five, six weeks it avoid

his mother because he knew there would be a conflict. ta worries me he's going to put himself in a situation tahat's going to become dangerous for him. for all of those reasons, order that he be placed -- and so he can return home sooner than later. all right. this hearing's adjourned. thank you. >> say good-bye to your parents. >> i love you, too, honey. i'll see you. >> i think morris is a stinker. and i think that he gives his mother a run for her money. he's not to the point where he's really a danger to other people. so i don't see him as a hardened criminal at this point in his life. it's my job and the job of the juvenile court system to make

sure he doesn't get to that point. >> brought you a visitor. how are you? >> two weeks ago, the judge sent roderick back to detention to await of results of a drug test after testimony left her less than satisfied. >> can you pass drug screen today jnchtsz i believe i can. >> what do you mean, you believe can you? >> i believe i can. i do it any other time. >> assen fortunate toned a day in court has had been doing roderick's way and only would guess worse after the results came in. >> after you testified with the marijuana, wokking to get this -- the prosecutor was originally recommended 120 days locked up here. here's what -- here's what --

hold on. hang in there. hang in there. >> oh, god. >> i want you to get out of here. >> i don't want to be here. i was supposed to be out. there ain't nobody helping me. nobody. >> settle down. >> i don't want to be here. i just spent a year of my life incarcerated. >> okay. k k well -- >> here's what she agreed to do. here's what i think you should do. tried for two things. possession of marijuana and resisting arrest. admit allegation of one they'll dismiss the other and go in and argue the court whether you should be released for time served. >> all going to convict me of something i didn't even do. >> they're trying to gemt you an agreement to get you out of here. you admit to one or the other.

you don't want to admits to marijuana, they'll dismiss it, admit to resisting arrest. >> roderick and his mother head off to court still unsure what he plans to do. >> you never know until somebody actually walks into court and fateses the judge to see how they'll react to has they're going to say. >> whatever decision roderick makes in the next five minutes, it will likely affect the direction of his entire future. >> oh, god. mr. brown, for all the testimony today, what people think should happen to you, wa do you want to have happen? >> i understand i resisted law enforcement and been back there in that room two weeks that really got me and i know i tested positive for marijuana, but that's something i did, like, back in july. and i thought i wasn't going -- i would be clean by the time i came to court. >> some people might say, here's a little marijuana.

it isn't like shooting somebody. at the same time, do you understand the significance of that one use of marijuana, what it had on your family and your life and, frankly, on the underlying charges you already had pending against you? >> i take full responsibilities for my actions and i feel like i let them down, and you know, like ms. sarah, bob, my mom. i just want to, like, go home and take care of my responsibilities. >> roderick, do you remember the judge asking you about taking a drug test? >> yes, ma'am. >> do you say you probably should be clean? something like that? >> i probably should. >> so you were trying to put one over on the judge. right? >> no. i thought i was going to be clean. so that's why i didn't say, yes, and that's why i didn't say, no. >> so you were hoping you were going to get by with it. >> not necessarily. >> well, you knew you were lying to the judge.

>> judge -- hold on. i'm going to object to that. he answered the kbep the question the court asked, would he pass a drug test, not did he use marijuana. >> i have a couple question es. you had tattoos removed didn't you? >> yeah. >> what kind of tattoos were they? >> i had gang tattoos. a scripture on my arm. i knew i was going to do bad in life that's why i removed the gang tattoos, i don't want part of that life no more. the gang ain't here helping me now. >> anything else you want to tell me? >> regardless if i go home a day, would weeks from now, when i get out, still going to school and still become a positive person i became, because i like the person that i became. >> huh. a bunch of stuff i could say to you today, rod. i know it was huge top remove the gang tattoos, speaks vog

you'll. after doing this job 26 year, i'm sure there's somebody that has, no one i'm aware that's done that and sat up on the stand and testified you've done knowing you're going back out in the same city were you in when you belonged to that gang and maybe take your hances of what denouncing them might do to you today. you're like this close to succeed, and you're so aparade of that. it's easier for you to bail. think about this hearing today and all of this argument about whether you're good person or you're not. there's only really one opinion in this room right now that matters and it's mine, and i think you are a good person and i think you're going to make it. poor that reason today the court is going to order you serve 30 days in the lay county juvenile center and give you credit for the time serves and release you today and order you be released to the custody of your mother. >> ma'am, may i hug -- >> sure, if they want to hug you, you can hug them. >> if they want to hug you. >> i'm going going to make that

request. >> thanks, bob. >> you like me now? >> you know, even though they test dirty for marijuana and was arrested, i don't want that to wipe away all the good he's done over the past year, which for somebody like roderick is just enormous. >> the last time i'll see you. >> that's a good thing. >> 18. >> excellent. however, don't want to read about you in the paper. >> he was locked up two weeks. paid the price for coming here with a dirty drug screen ip think he got that message and he needed today, somebody to say to him, i believe in you, and i just felt it was the right time to con say there message to him. convey that message to him. >> whew!