nuke. >> i learned according to michael steele you're a new york elitist. >> that's right. >> what about you, willie geist? >> we better not let the russians get ahold of nukes. that could be ugly. i'm going to read chris' book this week, "jack kennedy: elusive hero." looks fantastic >> it looks great, and i -- i found out that michael steele thinks that everybody in middle america are dupes. way too early. >> stick around right now for chuck todd. >> thank you. another day of damage control for herman cain isn't slowing down the firestorm over claims of past sexual harassment. now one of the former accusers wants to share her story. so far cain is not taking a hit in the polls. he's still leading the not mitt romney primary. this morning we'll talk to one of those men whose decision not to run disappointed many republicans, governor haley barbour. and as the president heads to the g-20 summit in france later

today, greece's shock call for a referendum on their debt deal sends shock waves through the world economy. if greece votes against the terms of the deal, what does that mean? >> today will be known as the greatest day for the los angeles dodgers since kurt gibson's home run in 1988. my first reads of the afternoon. herman cain is on capitol hill holding an afternoon meet and greet. he'll have dinner with step republican senators at a d.c. steakhouse last night. now he's in a full-fledged he said, she said threatening to engulf his entire candidacy. i spoke to the attorney of one of cain's accuser who says she wants to come forward to correct cain's claim that only one isolated incident occurred. >> more than one incident that

my client perceived assayers president. she would like to speak out for the record only because mr. cain has stated that he didn't sexually harassed anyone. there wasn't any substance to the allegations, and basically made it look like she was some type of frivolous claimant just looking for money. >> bennett says his client hasn't gone public so far because of a confidentialality agreement that was signed 12 years ago as part of a financial settlement, but he said cain's comments this week may have changed that. specifically bennett said cain violated a clause fr. this is what he said on monday. >> i was told her performance, i had been told to me, by her boss, was not up to par. >> i do believe that his remarks are a violation of the confidentiality provision of the settlement agreement. i think she's upset about his statements and would like the

record to be balanced and clear. >> bennett is asking the national restaurant association to waive the confidentiality agreement so his client can come forward. though as of yesterday, he hadn't formally done so, according to the restaurant association. cain was asked last night if he'll call for the agreement to be waived so his accuser can speak freely. here's what he said. >> if the restaurant association waives that, i just found out about this today, there are legal implications associated with that that i'm not totally familiar with yet, so i can't give you a definitive answer on that until we consult with our legal attorneys and also talk to, you know, some others. >> cain andies in non-stop talk-a-thon has been challenged to explain his evolving statements. here's his day two explanation. >> i just started to remember more. remember, in 12 years a lot of stuff can go through your head. it wasn't intended ton clintonian. it was simply using a word

agreement, didn't intend to contradict myself. it's just been difficult trying to recollect many of the pieces. when questions got asked, some of them i didn't anticipate, and i was trying to remember some of those facts. >> also yesterday the pro-cain super pac called americans for herman cain. they turned up the heat a bit by invoking race and harkening back to the clarence thomas episode, sending out an e-mail which read, "don't let the media lynch another black "they are engaging in a high-tech lynching by attacking his character." by the way, cain was asked himself whether he thought race was playing a role in this story, he said yes but then said he had no evidence of that. republican candidates have been more or less reticent to wade into the controversy with a few notable exceptions. their response has been some version of no comment. >> there are always distractions

in politics, and oftentimes you're going to have the drama of politics that will play out in an unpredictable fashion, and it's hard to know where that then goes. >> as a good rule of thumb, until, you know, things go past allegations to fact, i just try to leave it alone. >> there's something to be said for having a candidate in the race who has been in front of the national public eye, who has gotten the scrutiny. >> this is the year when we can't settle. this is the year where we can't have any surprises with our candidate. >> there you go. still tip-toeing around. what's fascinating though is that cain, while still leading in the rolls, mitt romney today, he's out today with a new attack video on a republican opponent. it attacks rick perry. finally, president obama leaves tonight for france and the g-20 economic summit, but, first, yesterday was a full-court diplomacy at home. an hour and 20 minutes of interviews with nine local tv stations from around the country

as well as the hearst collection of television affiliates, colorado, florida, sounds like swing states. the president went very local. let's take a listen. >> i also think that colorado is representative of a can-do spirit that we need to recapture. when it comes to the pacific northwest, which is one of the crown jewels of the united states, as pretty a part of the country as there is, what we've said with nasa is we need to retool to take that next big leap forward. florida has had a tough time partly because it was ground zero in terms of the housing bubble bursting. >> so the president did indoor interviews outside. all of these affiliates set up on the south lawn yesterday. they were treated very well. they brought bo the dog out. he got a lot of coverage in these a lot of these stories and a lot of cabinet secretaries did live interviews outside while all the presidential interviews, as you saw, were inside. later today the president will be at the key bridge which for

you new yorkers is like him speaking at the triborough. at least he's not doing it around rush hour. by the way, mitt romney is doing local interviews this morning to some of the same affiliates. the campaign reached out to try to bracket the president doing this. polls show herman cain still leads the republican field, but will these allegations about inappropriate conduct knock him from the top spot. mississippi governor haley barbour joins me now. governor barbour, always good to see you. >> hey, chuck. thanks for having me. >> all right. let's start. give me your take on how herman cain is handling this in what's a full-fledged feeding frenzy at this point. >> the news media certainly is. i'm not sure what the public thinks except the public is like they ought to be. what are the facts? you know, let's get the facts out on the table for any campaign, any candidate, any public official for that matter, if there's some controversy with negative connotations, you want to get all the facts out, all

the cards on the table, face up as quickly as you get and get it behind you so you can be talking about what really is important in this campaign for the average american, and that's policy, about the issues, about the direction of the country. >> i don't want to put words in your mouth, but it does sound like you're subtly saying that herman cain does need to speed up the amount of facts that he's putting out on the table here. >> well, i think the best interest of herman cain's campaign, of everybody, is let's get all the facts out. you know, it doesn't surprise me that if -- if i got to ask about something that happened 12 years ago that i might have to go back and refresh myself. that's not a big deal. but -- i can tell you this. if you have a confidentiality agreement that keeps the public from finding out something that the public is interested in knowing the facts, you ought to go on and get the facts out. >> so you think he ought to waive this confidentiality agreement if he himself has the

legal authority to do so. >> let me -- chuck, everybody watching, everybody knows if a week from now we've had one week of the confidentiality agreement is keeping the facts from coming out, that's not in herman cain's interests. herman cain's interest is getting this behind him where he can get back and focused on the things that made him very popular among republican voters. >> i want to talk about herman cain's role in this republican primary. he has risen up. a couple weeks ago you said your wife at this point, if the primary had been held october 13th, she'd be a herman cain voter and that he could do well, particularly in the south. number one, is your wife still a herman cain supporter at this point, but number two, explain why there is still this group of conservatives that won't accept mitt romney yet. >> well, i think the real issue here is to a lesser degree than

normal, people are saying who is the person most like me? who is the person that i really agree with strongest? that's usually what gets people to support somebody in a primary. i think that is being overwhelmed today by the public -- by republicans, independents, moderates and conservatives, who are saying who's got the best chance to beat obama? i want to be for the person who has the best chance to win the election next november because we've got to go in a different direction, and i think what you've seen is voters who don't know many of these candidates very well at all have looked at them one by one, and they have spiked up. you know, michele bachmann spiked up. rick perry spiked up. herman cain spiked up. >> right. >> and we'll see who has got staying power, but it's not surprising to me that with milk the best known starting out, people are trying to learn more about the others, but i really do believe the unusual thing

about this for republican primaries, it's less being driven by who agrees with me the most but by who do i think has the best chance to win. >> but you do think it's being driven by that because the polls are showing mitt romney performs the best against president obama but that isn't -- that isn't -- that does not yet seem to be an asset for him in these republican primary matchups. i can tell you the more -- when we look at our own polling, you go in the internals, and you've got a political strategist mind, the more you're paying attention to the race, the less likely you're for romney. >> again, i think that is being driven by the fact that he's more of a known quantity, and that people are looking at each one of these other candidates very seriously, that each one of them is getting their time to be under the spotlight or in the spotlight, and romney is going to be the last one to get to do that because he started out better known than the rest, but at the end of the day, i don't

think we know who is going to ultimately be our nominee because i think people are very seriously looking at this because they know the consequences of this election next november are huge. >> do you think at this point though it is romney and somebody else that this comes down to, that that is the fairest way to look at this, that it's a romney and the alternative to romney primary that we're watching? >> sort of looks like that. i wouldn't go that far to state that as just a fact. but it sort of looks like that. it is less than it normally would be in a republican primary, chuck. as you know, we typically have a strong front-runner, and the issue is who is going to get to be reagan's opponent, who is going to be bush's opponent, who is going to be dole's opponent for the nomination. it's not quite that strong but it's got some similarities, but the deal is most of the rest of them have real good records but are not very well known, and they are each one getting a chance to try on cinderella's

slipper. >> what do you make of the fact that mitt romney's campaign continues to target rick perry as their chief rival even though right now, you know, he's in the low part of these ups and downs in this polling? >> well, clearly rick perry's had a great record as the governor of texas. ten years with a lot of success. he's got real money. you know, i can see why the romney people think he is maybe their strongest opponent despite what the polls say. i do think we need to make this -- we republicans need to make the primary contest about policy, about issues, because that's what we want the fall election to be about. if this election is a referendum on president obama's record, his policies and the results produced by those policies, we're going to have a republican president next year. we need this election to be about obama's policies, and our candidates need to be focused on

those issues and those policies earlier rather than later. >> i caught a little bit of an interview, previous interview you did earlier today talking about the personhood amendment in mississippi that's on the ballot in a week. you seem to be -- did i catch that you were hesitant in supporting it or that you were trying to explain why it might not pass in mississippi? >> well, i'm trying to -- i'm trying to explain it on a show when i was asked about it, but i'm -- i'm pro-life. americans united for life picked me as their man of the year several years ago. i believe life begins at conception. unfortunately, this personhood amendment doesn't say that. it says life begins at fertilization or cloning or the functional equivalent thereof. that ambiguity is striking a lot of pro-life people here as concerning, and i'm talking about people that are very

outspokenly pro-life. >> right. >> and some of that is because of the ambiguity. some of it i think is because strategically there's some national organizations that think that this may mess up trying to get more pro-life policies adopted nationally because the proponents seem to think that this is the way to the supreme court, and the opponents who are pro-life think that this isn't a good way to go to the supreme court. this may not help. it may hurt. >> how are you voting on it? >> really haven't decided. if you would have asked me when this was first proposed i would is a v said, a, the legislature would have passed it 100-1, and, b, i believe life begins at conception and i would have voted for it. i am concerned about some of the ramifications on in vitro fertilization, ectopic pregnancies where pregnancies outside the uterus in the fallopian tubes. >> right. >> that -- that's -- that

concerns me, i have to just say it. >> republican haley barbour, republican from mississippi, pleasure to talk to you. >> thanks, chuck. >> still ahead, is greece on the verge of a meltdown and what will that mean for the united states economy? the shock news that greeks want to vote on the stiff terms of their european bailout is spooking economists, has markets diving. we're going to get a reality check on just how dire the news is for our economy next. plus, vote early and often. we're headed to new hampshire, south carolina and iowa this morning for our checkup from the nbc embeds in those early primary states, but first a look ahead at the president's schedule. key bridge, speech at the key bridge, and traffic is bad. enough there. good luck driving around georgetown this afternoon. and it's off to france. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. we'll be right back. what's better than gold ?

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greece is just weeks away from bankrupty and their last best holds for a bailout is in jeopardy. the country's prime minister is struggling to keep control. european leaders are furious and under fire for enacting tough cuts to dale with their neighbor's crises. the news is ricochetting through the world markets. the dow plummeted yesterday because of it after what had been a banner month in october. everybody is freaked out about greece. economics correspondent for "the national journal" joins us and greg ipp, u.s. economics editor for "the economist" and author of the little book "economist."

boys, this is ugly today. what's going on in greece? we've got the g-20 that starts tomorrow. greg, it really sort of started yesterday. >> yeah. >> when you had merkel and sarkozy convene this meeting. >> europeans agreed on a package of measures which while not perfect helped stave off the day of doom, a way to protect spain and italy from the contagion. >> it was a model. the greek bailout was a model for how they will handle spain and italy. >> the issue we'll try to find a way to get greeks out from under its debts and prevent europe from the aftershocks of that happening, and then the greeks throw a complete banner in the work saying we'll put our part of the deal to a referendum so that has two possibilities. number one, what if they turn it down which means that greece will have to default, and all this, you know, was for nothing, and number two, even if it doesn't happen, we have two months of uncertainty waiting for that referendum, so we just cannot get closure on all this anxiety. >> so, jim, what's the

likelihood at this point, if -- if greece decided to just pull out of the euro, which there is a minority, a growing minority apparently that they want to go back to the drachma i believe it was called, then what happens to the euro? i mean, what is the domino effect here this. >> the ripple effects could be really, really bad is the short and somewhat depressing answer. for starters, if greece destaults, you'll see spain and italy have a really hard time keeping it together because the markets are going to freak out like we've been seeing but much, much worse, and the bank contagion could be enormous. you have a lot of banks across the continent, even in relatively stable countries like germany and france that own large shares of sovereign debt in the more imperiled countries. >> right. >> if all this spreads, dominoes, hard to not see that reaching our shores and imperiling what suddenly looks like it might be a decent quarter or two for the united states. >> all right, greg. to put this in language that the american viewer will understand.

essentially what europe agreed to is create a $1 trillion t.a.r.p. fund. >> yeah. >> originally they only ended up using 50 billion at the end of the day after pay bark but they want to create this fire wall that both banks and governments could essentially borrow from, right? >> the essential idea was there's already $400 billion of money put in the kitty by governments. let's leverage that up to 1 trillion by attracting private investors, the chinese, your mother, my stock broker. >> right. >> and that will give us more money. the whole thing has always had a rube goldberg feel to it, not perfect because the germans don't want to put more of their own money up but it was enough, again, to contain the fear and the panic. the problem is now with that, and now with the greek referendum throwing things, you know, causing problems, we don't really know what the outlook is. we have a g-20 meeting that starts tomorrow. the americans had hoped to bring the focus of the g-20 to global growth. let's get everybody do more. >> that's not happening. this is all about europe.

>> it's all about europe. everything else will be a sideshow and, unfortunately, i think the americans feel like they are somewhat out of the picture. this is going to be between nicolas sarkozy of france, angela merkel of germany, imf, the greeks. >> right. jim, all i've heard is essentially that the u.s. plays the role of therapist, right, sarkozy and merkel. well, what do you guys think? what should we do, because, if anything, the u.s. government did provide the model for how to do this, how to capitalize banks and how to create these funds. >> right. >> and the u.s. provides some warnings here. t.a.r.p. is not popular. it wasn't popular. >> that's what's going on politically here. >> exactly. >> finding the same thing, shocking. all politics is local, isn't it? >> and no one wants to pay for it, and the greeks don't want to take the austerity measures to do the things that are going to make them be able to get the bailout. the germans and norwegians, other parts of europe do not want to foot the bill for these big bailout funds. >> europe has the money though, right? the northern european countries can do this. they don't need china or the u.s. to bail them out, do they? >> that's exactly right. when the europeans and some of

the emerging markets started talking about let's beef up the international monetary fund and have them provide the money. the americans like basically shot that down on arrival. they said that's just a distraction. you're trying to give the i'm i have more money. it doesn't need more money. this is one of the richest regions in the money. you've got the money. what you don't have yet is the will. the americans are like a therapist, more like the boxing coach. the boxer, staggers in the ring, he's bleeding and the coach basically wipes him up and tells him. >> cuts him. >> gets back in there. >> boxing metaphor, tried everything we could to help make this as accessible as we could. thank you both. >> all right. >> so, will wall street take another hit today from the mess in greece? market rundown is next, and trying to get to change the subject, herman cain takes a break from damage control to break bread with some of the senate's republican power players. how did he do with them? and our hour long -- my own long national nightmare is over. a new day is dawning for the second most proud franchise in the history of major league

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americans are trying to bounce back after losing nearly 300 points tuesday thanks to greece. a market rundown. so the fed, bernanke speaks and greece speaks. what's going to have the bigger impact today? >> you know, actually the biggest impact oddly already might have already have happened. it was this morning. we hear the adp employment numbers ahead of the friday jobs report, and it came in better than expected. 110,000 jobs were created last month. the expectation was 100,000 jobs and also a revision also raising the number of jobs created in september, so that may actually

give a little bit of lift to the market, but people will be watching, of course, to hear when ben bernanke says later. will he or won't he add some form of stimulus in the view is that he won't, but listening to the comments about what his view of europe, is he probably won't address it directly, but the more global picture is what people will be looking for. greece is one of those issues that seems to have been taken off the table temporarily. we seem to have go to it and then come back to it. we'll see if people refocus on greece tomorrow. >> thank you, andrew. "the daily rundown" will be back in 30 seconds.

other stories making headlines. supporters of the occupy wall street movement are planning large demonstrations in oakland today. protesters are planning to march to the waterfront in an effort to shut down the nation's fifth busiest port. there's a new setback for wikileaks founder julian assange who is fighting possible extradition to sweden on sex crime allegations. a british judge rejected his appeal earlier this morning and the 40-year-old denies any wrongdoing and may now take his case to the country's highest court there. the idea is does he get extradited for an interview he's not been charged yet there? the lace dodgers will soon go up for sale, ending the ugliest chapter in the team's storied history. owner frank mccourt agreed to sell the team just months after filing for bankruptcy. mccourt and his weapons inspection wife jamie are

accused of taking money from team revenues and spending it on themselves. first big bidders that you'll hear a lot about are ron burkel and steve garvey. we'll see if others jump in there like mr. cuban or maybe even mr. o'malley. time to check in with the nbc embeds, fanned out all over the place. today we're going to the early states. new hampshire, secretary of state will announce the date of the granite state primary this morning. south carolina continues to sort out a lawsuit from some counties unhappy about how the state's early primary is going to be held and in iowa an milestone for rick santorum. jo, let me start with you. it's the date everybody already knows but it hasn't been announced. tell us what we're going to hear today. >> that's right, chuck. secretary of state bill gardner is going to announce this morning at 11:00 many it's a very important day for new hampshire voters, widely expected to be january 10th, about a week after the iowa caucuses. it's been a lot of drama

unfolding on the ground here the past couple of weeks and finally we'll know today, chuck. >> what is it about -- when it -- we're getting some folks wired up here. very quickly, jo, by officially informing this, what does this mean next for all the townships for new hampshire in order that they can start printing ballots, absentee stuff. when does all that begin? >> that's right, chuck t.actually starts right now. the secretary of state's office has finalized the ballots, and they are going to be doing all of the printing and distributing it out to all of the different counties and districts around the state of new hampshire, and from there the administrators and the town clerks will prepare to deliver those ballots to their voters, presumably on january 10th. >> our new hampshire nightmare is over. >> alex is in des moines today. rick santorum will visit his 99th county in the hawkeye state. 99 counties in the hawkeye state. anybody even a close second to

visiting on the way to try to visit all 99 counties, alex? >> not really, and, you know, rick santorum has practically been living in iowa ever before since this straw poll. michele bachmann has been here quite a few times but rick santorum has had 200 events here. he's going to be visiting, as you said, his 99th county, jackson county way out by illinois late they are evening about 8:00 p.m. eastern. he's very excited to be doing this, and he tells us, you know, this has been his goal all along. originally by the caucus date, but he decided he wanted to do it before thanksgiving so he can go back and visit some of the other counties. >> so if you take away rick santorum after him, who has been the next most? >> i think michele bachmann has been the next most. she's been here i think over 70 days or had over 70 trips to the hawkeye state with different events, but really rick santorum has been here a lot. rick perry has been here a few times, and then obviously you have, you know, the trips from newt gingrich. >> sure. >> but, you know, we haven't

seen obviously mitt romney or herman cain here besides once since the straw poll back in august. >> the whole irony, the two guys leading in iowa are the two guys that have visited the least. let's go down to south carolina. yesterday we finally got the full ballot, and two of the semi gadflies made it. who made it and who didn't? [ no audio ] >> all right. we just lost her audio. i'll go ahead and give it away. gary johnson did file the $35,000 fee, but buddy romer and fred carger, two candidates who filed in new hampshire did, not spend the $35,000. we'll get back to you, i promise. what the senators who had dinner with herman cain are saying and not saying about their meeting. plus, rick perry defends that new hampshire speech that we're all still scratching our heads about. bring it on, brother, and the democratic super pac sets its

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jimmy carter and gerald ford was too close to call. not until 3:30 a.m. the next day that carter learned he was the winner. president ford had already gone to bed. full disclosure. that is my first election night memory. i remember that. it looked like a puzzle map. i was drawn to t.herman cain heads to capitol hill today after dinner with ten republican senators last night. nbc camp embed andrew rafferty spoke with several members of congress who made it clear the dinner did not mean they were endorsing cain. >> you know, candidates are in town, it's -- it's nice to sit down and just get a sense of what's happening on the campaign. >> what was your impression of mr. cain from the dinner? >> you know, i think he's, you know, a very likeable person. i don't want to get into a lot of details. >> i want to listen to him a little bit, get to know him and hear what he has to say. >> msnbc political analyst michelle bernard president of the bernard center for women and

public policy, david drucker a reporter for "roll call" and anita dunn a former white house communications director. welcome all of you. >> you heard haley barbour said to herman cain just release this woman from her disclosure and get it all out. don't let this drag on. >> i completely agree with governor barbour, but, you know, there's a legal question which is was herman cain a party to the suit or was it the associate? >> right. i would assume -- the lawyer in me would assume it's really up to the association to -- to release this and to say that we're going to drop the confidentiality clause. i -- i find it very difficult to believe that herman cain himself could actually say i can open up the confidentiality agreement >> but anita dunn, when you see, and i interviewed the lawyer for one of the women who basically is mad at how herman cain is -- upset at how she believes she is being characterized by herman cain meaning she wants to speak out, i mean, if you're herman cain how do you prepare for this? >> listen, if you're herman

cain, you should have been prepared for this because at the end of the day these things get out. too many people in this town pro whoebl knew about that. a lot of former employees of the national restaurant association, for example, some of whom, may be backing other candidate, chuck, but have you to assume at beginning of a campaign you're going to be deal with these things and if there's one lesson all of us have learned from campaigns over the years this will get out. >> sealed records don't stay sealed. >> we've all been in campaigns with sealed records and the fact is there's nothing sealed once you're running for president, that the voters actually have an expectation of transparency, and then they will make up their own minds and herman cain, whatever the legalities are, he should call on the restaurant association to release those records. >> david drucker, we're not seeing evidence that this has hurt him yet and herman cain himself was almost bragging, not the right word, but boasting about some of the boosting his campaign has gotten. here's what he said yesterday.

>> i absolutely agree we could have been better prepared, and in the future we probably will be, so, you know, mea culpa. i don't believe it has hurt my campaign at all just based upon not only the volunteers and the phone calls by the fund-raising has really gone up dramatically. >> over $400,000 raise they said in one day, and then you do sense a backlash among some of his conservatives supporters who love to hate the media more than anything else. >> yeah, and i'm not surprised. i've seen this on previous republican campaigns. in the last few days of the schwarzenegger recall campaign, when the "l.a. times" reported on the groping allegations, conservatives, republicans rallied to his side. it became an issue of "the times" and the media and them being out to get republicans and regardless of what you think of that sort of dynamic and what the truth is there, i talked to a number of republican consultants this week with presidential campaign experience, and they told me this could actually help him, at least in the immediate, because his supporters are going to

assume that the knives are out for him because he's the conservative who can win. >> he's winning. >> and the establishment wants mitt romney so i think that at least for now this helps him with voters. i think long term, if you look at the general election, this could be a real problem. >> michelle, i want to -- before you add something, i want to talk about i was surprised at how easily some supporters of herman cain are using race to talk about this story, so, for instance, americans for herman cain, the super pac that was started to support herman cain's presidency, they send out a blast e-mail looking for fund-raising saying "don't let the media lynch another black conservative. they are engaging in a high-tech lynching by smearing his reputation and attacking his character" and herman cain said he thought race was a part of this and had no evidence. >> i saw the interview. i understand it from a tactical point of view, but i think there are a lot of african-americans and americans in general that will sit back and say you can't really throw the race card when

we have an african-american who is president of the united states and these kinds of allegations didn't come out about obama. there's a pretty serious problem saying this is a high-tech lynching. you draw back parallels to clarence thomas. >> that was the intention was to draw the parallel. >> absolutely the attention was to draw parallels to clarence thomas, but i think in the short term it's going to help him raise money. in the long term i think this hurts him. i think it hurts with african-americans, and i think it will hurt with women. we have a huge gender gap in the country and whenever what actually occurred comes out, herman cain will have to go out and do a mea culpa and explain and apologize or this will hurt him with women voters also. >> maureen dowd when she went through it was really dismissive of the race argument saying this is a classic tale of a washington power man, man in power, abusing his place in power. >> chuck, i don't know the details of what happened, and they are still sealed. i think we all feel like he should follow governor barbour's

advice who as you pointed out in your interview is a pretty good political mind here, but there are a couple of things that in the long run hurt his candidacy. the first is -- and hurt the republicans. one is they are not talking about the economy this week. two, one could argue that last week mitt romney had perhaps the worst week of his campaign. >> particularly for conservatives. >> particularly for conservatives. >> the ohio issue when he didn't look like he was on the same side. >> and the ohio issue, first the foreclosure comment in nevada which i think really does hurt him in the state of nevada and other places as well, but the ohio issue which really was encapsulated, i think many people's concerns around romney so he was in a pretty bad place to begin, and then with this story, not only is the focus not on romney any longer, but it's not on economics and it's not on the president and if you look at the q poll showing what some of the white house has been doing

is breaking view in terms. we can't wait. >> what do you make of jonah goldberg's tweet yesterday imagine if tim pawlenty was in the race? just an interesting throw it out there. >> well, look, i think that after-the-2008 race when mccain came back from the dead and this race where herman cain came out of nowhere and rick perry went from somewhere to nowhere, anybody running for president would do we will not to drop out. by the way, the last good day michele bachmann had on this campaign was the straw poll victory that knocked tim pawlenty out of the race. >> stick around, we'll talk about other things other than herman cain after the break. trivia, we asked what is the fewest number of states a candidate can win and still be elected president in the answer is 11. this electoral college goes to 11. it's possible to amass exactly 270 electoral votes by winning california, texas, new york, florida, illinois, pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, georgia, north carolina and new jersey. interesting there. if you're team obama, only texas seems to be completely out of

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let's bring back the panel. okay, we know who mitt romney thinks his chief rival is. it's not herman cain. it is not michele bachmann. it's not jon huntsman. he's got a new video out attacking rick perry, a single-digit guy. here's what he has today. rick perry's going to california to raise money. so here it is. ♪ >> so there it is. david druker trying to compare the fact that governor brown

just signed the instate tuition deal for children of undocumented workers, how they can get instate tuition. we know who mitt romney fears. >> yeah. and i think that's because rick perry has a lot of money. he has the conservative profile. he has the executive experience that really, i think, republicans have been looking for in tandem as an alternative to romney. so i think that it's not necessarily a bad bet for mitt romney to focus on perry who already has negatives rather than trying to bring down cain whom the conservative movement loves. but if romney is going to succeed when we get into the stretch of the race where ads matter, he has to show conservative that is he's really with them enough. they're never going to fully trust him. but a good step might be this week, coming out with a bold economic plan that shows a bit

of reforming not just status quo in terms of tax plans. >> michelle, this was supposed to be a two-week period that rick perry wanted to do as sort of the reintroduction of him. >> did he do it? >> he talked a little bit yesterday. here's what he talked about yesterday, about debates and that new hampshire appearance while he was in iowa yesterday. >> somebody said in a debate that we had, i hope you missed it, i hate debates like i used to hate spinning in aircraft. i finally did it until i got pretty good at it. hold on, maybe i'll get better at debates. >> michelle, later he talked about that sort of interesting appearance he had in thamnew hampshire that jon stewart has

made fun of where he was loose and in a good mood and said he was just having a good time. he won the room. >> you could hear the applause and you could hear the laughter in the room and it was probably a good performance. but if you sit down and think about a general election, you have to be asking yourself who looks the most presidential? who speaks the most presidential? who are you going to feel the safe west? and the governor perry that we saw in new hampshire and even yesterday is still probably a little bit scary. >> anita, before we go, i want to throw this footage of yesterday. the local tv row on the south lawn of the white house, look at this. they brought out bo the dog for all the local reporters. and apparently he made it into all of the various broadcasts. so you can see all of them there. they're all coming over, all petting him. i think he made it into every single footage. >> oh, look.

>> i know message management is something you used to do. could you have planned the -- i have to say. >> it's perfect. >> i'm a cynic. am i being too cynical here? >> yes. bo's a dog who's always liked the spotlight. >> that's true. >> bo has very strong friendships, i'd say -- i think bo has probably created a few jobs in his time. but bo is a part of that white house. you can't really bring people to the white house without bo making his appearance. >> this outreach to local media, this was a little more creative. took him three years? maybe i'm -- >> chuck, i think there has been outreach to the local media. but what yesterday showed is you can -- if you really want to break through to tv reporters, you have to bring in your big guns like bo. >> taking a page right out of george w. bush's way to get

around the liberal media in d.c. >> michelle? >> national women's history museum november 16th. >> lindsey graham wants to make foreign policy relevant. >> anita? >> christopher lee's op ed in politico on monday about a big infrastructure plan that involves a fasttrack authority to get permits and a much bigger infrastructure bank than anybody on capitol hill is talking about. >> thank you all. that's it for this edition of "the daily run." i'll see you tomorrow from cannes. you always have to wear sunglasses when you're in cannes. coming up next, chris jansing and company. she's speaking with former governor tim pawlenty. bye-bye.

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