tv The Squeeze MSNBC November 4, 2011 11:00pm-12:00am PDT
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you can't be intelligence when it's coming straight from a come that's in the inner circle. >> he's connected. we believe the information he gave is real good. >> so you think his own guys could have something to do with it? >> everybody wants to be the top dog out there. >> you're going out into the main streets. you never know what's going to happen. >> you were going to shoot one of my friends is what you were going to do. >> did you know the gun was in the car. >> no. >> you had no idea? >> no. >> i'm willing to work with you
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but i have to know you have something good to work with us. >> what's the street saying. >> right now, it's all out war, man. >> we have two bundles of cash, two keys of heroin. >> ever hear the saying the truth sets you free? >> you ever work with the police before or no? >> put the cameras right here. he's going to get beat up. >> a lost times walking through
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receiving you find someone who seems like they want to talk or talk to staff, maybe somebody said something to them about wanting to talk receiving is totally hit or miss. >> new detainees arrive by the dozen every day at chicago's cook county jail. most of them have only been accused and not convicted of crimes and are being held while they await trial. >> back again? you're back again? for what? come here. man! you like jail. >> no. >> why you back? >> when they come in here, they're defeated already. once you come in, you already know i lost for now, let me latch on to whoever wants to listen to what i have to say. you used to be? >> yeah. >> a traveler? >> no, i'm a four. >> you're a four?
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>> what are you in four. >> messing up. >> hey, it's like that sometimes. >> what can you do, though? help yourself out, help me out. nothing? >> can't sing or dance, brother. >> it's always the same song from us except their response is a little different depending on where they're at on their lives. >> what's up? >> what's going on in here, man? >> where? >> in this county, sir. >> i have civilian clothes on. i haven't been in the county yet. >> this is receiving. where you from? >> oak park. >> what kind of case you got. >> domestic. >> something i didn't even do. >> that's what i'm hear to talk about. >> i thought you wanted to talk about something important, man. >> i haven't ate, man, ever since friday. >> and i look like the pizza hut delivery guy.
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>> finding a good inform saint always a roll of the dice. today, following a tip from jail correction staff, criminal intelligence unit investigators have come across a new inmate with real potential. he's giving up inside information about a mexican drug cartel operating in chicago. police already assume he's got the connections. they seized several kilos of cocaine from his car during a traffic stop. he's facing up to 60 years in prison. >> right now, we think he's just a driver but they trusted him enough to give him locations, dropoff points, pickup points. he's connected, we just don't know how far yet. he's not too crazy about coming forward. the guys he was working for pretty much left him in the dark. he has to fend for himself. he knows that. >> the inmate whom we'll call caesar declined to speak on
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camera. what he reveals to investigators is that he hauled drugs and money for two separate suppliers, one that runs cocaine, the other heroin. he says he made multiple trips to a house in buffalo grove, an affluent northwest suburb to pick up large quantities of heroin. >> we just have an address. the house right in the middle of the block. there's no names. everything is nicknames. that's how everybody knows each other. that's their way of concealing it. they tell them how to get there, he jumps in the back of the truck, hand them the bricks, goes where he has to go, comes back three weeks later, drops off $100,000. a few weeks go by, he picks up more bricks. you may have a million dollars worth of money or product in there. one trip he can make up to $55,000. the temptation is rough, even for somebody who is legit making a real drop. you're making 55,000 a dropoff?
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that's pretty hard to pass by. >> at this point authorities have no proof of criminal activity at the target residence. only the informant's word. so sheriff's police investigator larry rivlin sends an undercover unit to watch the house. he and members of the northwest gang team later follow in their own unmarked cars to conduct surveillance. >> if we see any movement coming from the house, such as vehicles coming and going, we'll have other patrolling cars take down that vehicle and try and i.d. our driver and/or passengers. if we get lucky, we'll have someone coming out dirty, meaning they'll be carrying heroin with them. if that's the case, we'll get a john doe search warn to the search the residence. >> just to let you know, someone keeps coming to the window, looking out the window, looking out the window.
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not sure if they're looking for somebody, expecting a pickup. >> we're just going to go in and sit down this block, back out? >> yes. >> we're in position, facing the house opposite you. you see movement in the far right window from your angle? >> there you go. he's leaving. >> yeah, those blinds on the right are definitely shut. >> this is weird.
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>> 50 miles away on the opposite end of cook county, a different kind of waiting game is plague out in chicago's south suburbs where sheriff's police are on the prowl for dope hustlers and gang members. >> this job takes a lot of patience, especially when you're on drug dealer time. they don't have any fixed schedules at all. the criminals work 24 hours a day. most of the people that we go after, those are going to be your more aggressive criminals out here. >> what's your stat? >> there's one criminal i talked to once before and he told me, he spent a lot of time in jail. he's not going back. he said that if i ever corner somebody who's been in jail before, and they have nothing to lose and they don't want to go back to jail again, he says you're going to have to kill them because they're going to
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try to kill you. you never know when you're going to run into that person out here. >> that's the reality that every cop faces on every stop. >> terry? >> yeah. >> we got 32. look at that, and the hammer's back, too. >> so did you know the gun was in the car. >> no. >> you had no idea? >> no. >> you have to remember one thing. we do have the upper hand. ke, keepovhe loant edhechit
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191. >> people are more and more defiant out here nowadays. people want to make a name for themselves. they feel especially if they do something to a police officer, that makes a very big name for yourself. in the gang world, on the streets. >> police say that no call or stop is routine. the simplest thing, a car with expired plates can lead to the unexpected. >> we got one. >> terry? >> yeah. >> we got a 32. >> i know whose this is, my man, because i seen you reach behind this damn seat. >> yes, sir. >> yeah, baby. >> i saw you reach behind that seat, boss. look and that, and the hammer is back, too, ready to roll. were you going to try to kill us? >> the weapon that you're running with that serial number
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is coming back out of indiana. >> wow. >> you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can be used against you in a court. you have the right to talk to a lawyer. >> the gun is stolen, it was loaded with a round in the chamber and for whatever reason the hammer was back. >> rolex. >> we found other items that leads us to believe that these guys may have been part of a burglary ring. >> they're not mine. i just got out of jail a month ago. >> you just got out of jail a month ago for possession of a firearm? >> for the same thing. >> and you're asking me why would you have another gun? >> why would i do it again? >> i don't know but it's right beside you. >> it wasn't on me. >> yeah, it was. >> you had the hammer cocked back because you were going to kill somebody with it, shoot one of my friends is what you were going to do. you thought only one car was going to stop.
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that's exactly what happened. >> i can't go back to jail, bro. >> i ain't got [ bleep ] to do with it. wrong place, wrong time, i guess. >> we pulled the vehicle over, we observed the passenger take his arm and reach it behind the driver, kind of move downward like that. >> the passenger is just about to start talking, i can guarantee you that. it's a stolen weapon. quite sure he doesn't have a gun card. quite sure he has a criminal background, which means that it's definitely going to be a felony, which means he will not be getting out of jail tonight at all. >> somebody's about to turn into a rat and as soon as we get back
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to the lockup. >> what began as a traffic stop has become a one-way trip to jail for both driver and passenger. the best chance for either man to go home tonight is by working with police. the driver whose record includes a prior gun arrest refuses to cooperate. >> there's a holding spot for now. >> his friend, on the other hand, says he'll play ball. >> i'm willing to do anything. you know what i'm saying? i'm trying to get my life going. i'm only 18. i can't do this. >> whatever happened, i wasn't there. you tell me what happened tonight. did you know the gun was in the car. >> no. >> you had no idea? >> no. >> okay. the gun's going to go to the illinois state crime lab and we're going to print it. you being up front and honest
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with us will help us in the long run. you're not going to have any kind of prints on it whatsoever? >> huh-uh. >> do you think it will have prints on it? >> no. >> it will have someone's prints on it because somehow it got in the car. >> i had nothing to do with it. >> the gun is stolen out of hammond. we're willing to work with you but i have to know you have something good to offer us. >> you help me out, i could tell you anything. >> you say anything. what do you mean by anything? >> i can go to work at 6:00 in the morning, that killing that happened on 143rd and park -- >> how recent is the shooting you're talking about? >> sometime this month, old man ran up in his house. tried to rob him, laid him down. >> you know who did that? >> i don't know them but i know
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who did it. >> we have to verify what you're telling us is true, though. are we going to be able to do that? >> i can give names. i don't know them off the back of my heads. >> you know nicknames, cars? >> i know cars from where they hang out at. i can get names from some of my people. they know exactly who they are. >> let's just say that doesn't pan out. what else could you give us? >> i'm not saying no names yet till i know i'm walking out the door. >> till you know what now? >> until i can go to work tomorrow. >> remember one thing, we do have the upper hand. >> he wants to run the show as if he's holding the key. it doesn't work like that. >> as far as information, solid information, i don't know if he actually has it or not. there's an open murder. let's hope he has something. something more than just a nickname and what he might have heard. >> okay, great. thank you. >> investigators call in a
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dissect who's handling the murder case for another department. they'll let him interview the detainee before deciding whether to send him to lockup. >> if he gives him good information as far as solving this murder, we'll see what we can do as far as on our end but he needs to make a decision quick. next, on "the squeeze" -- >> these pickups and dropoffs are quick, two, three minutes tops. >> we have to roll the dice. >> there's only one way you can help yourself, ever hear of the saying the truth sets you free?
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>> timing means everything for both inmates and investigators at chicago's cook county jail. most detainees here are charged but not yet convicted, including this man we're calling caesar. caesar's betting he won't beat his case in court, however. so he's cashing in a very big chip instead, his ties to a mexican drug cartel. >> he's connected, a trusted driver, somebody they kept in the mix. right now they believe the information he gave is real good. >> caesar's given up a house in northwest suburban buffalo grove where he claims the cartel distributes drugs and money. >> allegedly this is a pickup point for a lot of kilos of heroin. this is a spot they're using. it might be a good hit. >> perfect. we'll be there hopefully within five or six minutes. >> investigators immediately set up surveillance on the house and
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hope that caesar's connections haven't heard he's in jail yet. >> as soon as somebody gets caught, operations shut down, all the product is moved. locations are moved. >> these guys, they don't play. >> if we see any vehicles coming and going we'll have other patrolling cars take down that vehicle and try and i.d. the driver and/or passengers. >> for the first two hours, the only activity they see is inside the house. >> there we go. >> either he's leaving -- >> there we go. maybe they got a clapper in there. >> individual in the study
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looking out the window, lights are going on and off. kind of made you believe that somebody was coming. after a while, the lights just went off. >> then things suddenly heat up. >> mini van at the target location now. >> here we go, guys. copy. >> no. >> he's just moving it. >> got a white mini van coming up the street. >> white mini van coming at you. >> we have another suv too, man. this is grand central. >> looks like a jeep. >> you know what the ci said about the jeep, that's the one doing the trafficking. >> the driver of the white mini van is on foot walking in the driveway. >> these pickups and dropoffs are quick, two or three minutes tops, which is what the ci told us happens. >> he's pulling up.
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>> he's got michigan plates. >> it has initial began plates. >> that's the main target. we just have to roll the dice. >> follow it up, give it some distance. >> all right. the jeep is southbound 83, southbound 83. >> he probably don't know what to do yet. >> we're behind -- hang on. stand by. >> are you going up? >> yep. >> hey, how are you guys? good. sorry. where do you guys live? >> michigan. >> what are you doing out this way? move your hand, please. just making sure you have no weapons in the car. okay? step out of the car one second, please. >> whose baby is it? it's hers?
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what's in the car? then why you worried about if he's looking in there. who is she to you? sister, friend? okay. who ace the friend you visit here in town. >> ma'am, you're under arrest. okay? you are. we'll talk about that when we get back to the station. hey, john, we need k-9, plain view, headed back to buffalo grove pd. stay in the house. and the girl's little backpack we have two bundles of cash, two kis of heroin. i can't imagine how much money is here. more than i make in a year. the girl's trying to grab it. i looked inside to make sure there wasn't a weapon and saw that. >> there's only one way you can help yourself.
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ever hear of the saying the truth sets you free? that's the only thing you need to be thinking about right now. you better start talking. >> we need to go back to the house right away. there's going to be quite a bit more. >> police now have legal cause to search the target house with the owner's consent, but if he refuses they'll ask a judge to issue a warrant. they'll also put the squeeze on those already in custody. >> right now, us taking down the car with product we have a chance of that person rolling over now and leading up to a bigger fish. timing is everything. >> we need a couple uniforms over here. >> tell them we're moving in. we're moving in. >> we're not done. we're going to find something else, i feel it. hehere wou
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>> i'm willing to work with you but i have to know you have something good to offer us. >> i'm gonna put it to you like this, if i can go to work at 6:00 in the morning, that murder that just happened on 143rd and park -- you. >> know who did that? it's time to put up or shut up on a detainee who's on his way to jail.
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they call in a detective assigned to the homicide case. he meets with the detainee behind closed doors and after a few short minutes dismisses his credibility. >> the only tip that he had he just lost. >> from my understanding he sugar coated it. there's more to it -- it's more to it than what you're giving up. >> that's all i know. that's all i know. i can easily get some names, even if i could use the phone. that's all i know. >> now the chips are off the table. do you have anything? >> i told you what i know. just come on, man. >> just want to get charged?
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>> i don't even care, this is [ bleep ]. >> he had that chance. either he was bluffing or he didn't want to give up that information. police will charge the detainee and his accomplice with carrying an illegal firearm. if convicted each man could wind up serving one to three years behind bars. >> he was very upset going down the stairs. he actually called us bitch ass cops. he's going to load up on that boss with another 50, 06 inmates. they're going to take that long road down there. as soon as he walks in, he'll hear people screaming, on the new, on the new, indicating he's the new one coming in. he'll have to basically prove himself. he's a big guy. that might work against him, people might start messing with him to see what he has.
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he's only 18 years old. he's still a young kid. it will be a real hard time for him. >> keep your hands together. >> while one potential informant strikes out, another delivers police a bona fide home run. >> we have two bundles of cash, two kis of heroin. >> but the spoils don't end there. investigator larry rivlin has learned that a second vehicle has left the target house. a second police unit pulls that car over and finds even more bundles of cash. >> we need to go back to the house because there will be quite a bit more. >> time is of the essence. >> jamie, we need a couple uniforms over here. >> tell them we're moving in. we're moving in.
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>> i can't see anything. >> here he comes. >> hi, how are you, sir? open the door, please. >> it just looked to us like the individual lived that wasn't the main guy or hooked up to be one of the main guys. the guy is living there with his wife and kids, it's a family. it looks like a regular home. that's probably how most of the distribution spots are. he's just a mechanic, they'll bring their cars to get fixed. but you see how the money was packaged. the money is back there. he did give consent to search. we will be searching the inside with dogs, we have a helicopter to search. >> there's a creek that runs behind the house. allegedly they were establishing heroin inside the creek. it's real shallow.
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i don't think they were losing it anymore. >> got something, craig? >> investigators scour the property for evidence. they recover what they believe to be more drug money and packaging. but no narcotics. >> we have four offenders in custody. we'll put them in hold for investigation. tomorrow we'll have a nice good, long conversation with them. right now we're going back to buffalo grove police department, inventory the cash and the heroin. >> these bags, some of them are numbered, 25, 30. this is $30,000 right here. whoever counted it before, again, we'll have the bank count it. it looked like about $185,000 cash. this is 2.2 pounds, a kilo of heroin.
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>> you guys are going to bust it and couldn't the it? >> no. it's over ten grand. not worth counting. >> now that the jailhouse informant, nicknamed caesar has proven himself, investigators plan to work with him further. he's already vowed to give up even bigger targets within the mexican drug cartels but they run into a brick wall when federal authorities intervene a few days later. the fed's suspect that seizer is more than just a driver for the cartel. they've linked him to a particularly savage homicide, the kind that the cartels are known for.
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>> they're not just going up to somebody and killing them, they're tieing them, torturing them. it's pretty serious. we're at the point now where we can't help him. his past came back and caught up to him. when we get to meet him, i always see what they're in for, face valley, all these individuals seem real nice when they weren't here. real calm and collected. you don't know what they're like out on the streets. when "the squeeze" continues -- >> a lot of gangs want to claim it. they get points off his murder, you and i both know that. >> somebody's in their glory right now, laughing, smiling. that most women aren't getting enough calcium. with over 25 flavors, yoplait original gives you
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we had a shooting saturday around 7:00, 24th. allegedly belonging to the satan disciples. number one man in the area gunned down. the individual doesn't even live in the city anymore. he was out here hanging out on the block. that's where he was born and raised. that's where he came back to die. obviously this is something that could affect us inside the jail. we have to be on our toes. we have guys on standby unless there's any retaliation. the old what happens on the street stays on the street motto might not be around much longer. we pitch it to the guys in this area, what have you heard, what's going on?
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a bottle of tequila, bobby-d, hell zone right on the box. a table and everything. they're keeping it on the hush hush, nobody knows anything. a lost gangs want to claim it. they get points off of this, you killed the leader. >> see the guys looking right out the window. 12:00, 12:30, they're out on the block already. >> one gangland murder in chicago can trigger a dozen more. when a gang chief is slain, the fallout can spread from the streets to cook county jail in an instant. for authorities, keeping a lid on the compound and on bobby-d's neighborhood means working
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together with inside sources. >> we're going to go see a guy from the same gang, see if he's received any phone calls or heard anything? >> so what's the street saying? >> they believe it was the latin kings, it's not for sure yet. right now it's all-out war with everybody, because they don't know who did it. deuces, two-two boys, don't matter who you are. they're just going to kill until they find out something. you know what i mean? if you think about it, it's stupid. you're going to kill all these people, you know. you don't know who did it. >> this inmate who we'll call tito is fighting a drug possession case.
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>> a lot of folks from all over the city is going to be at the funeral. that's what's going to unite everybody, crazy thoughts of retaliation. i guarantee everybody at the funeral is packing. it is kind of sick but we get more respect when we go a funeral. they're sitting ducks. sitting in a funeral parlor. you have to get someone. that's the way of life, man. >> you sign up for that? basically, i mean, right, you get what you signed up for. >> they say there's no way out, man. besides death. it's looking that way.
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whoever did this, for his sake, i think he'd rather be caught up there. he might have a better chance to live. maybe not, though. >> depending on where he lands here. >> no doubt. you. >> know what's beginning to go on out there. he's going to find out when the funeral is and get details for us. maybe we can get the surveillance team out there. they can shoot faces, do plates, do all that stuff. right after that there will be a shooting. some guys liquored up. ♪ >> gang chiefs meet violent fates all the time, but now chicago police are being targeted with alarming
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frequency. three officers lost their lives this past summer. >> no words can express to the family the loss of a loved one. i hope this memorial explains to you the love and affection we have for their sacrifice. we'll hear the names of all of chicago's fallen here rose. >> people out here nowadays don't have respect for police anymore. for them to shoot at a police officer, for them to fight a police officer, for them to be combative with a police officer is nothing. i mean, back in the day that was the last thing you'd think of trying to do. they don't care anymore. >> what if they don't know? >> they don't care at all. >> out of my face. >> before you went and did some type of criminal activity you get the blessings from the gang
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first, whoever is in charge. now they have the affiliation but they're independent. >> you have guys associated with street gangs but not under the ultimate control of them, that are extremely violent and not concerned with the consequences. >> a change in gang culture isn't the only member to blame. a growing shortage of officers, they argue, has left them on the defensive. many are calling for the police superintendent's resignation. problem is we need manpower. there's no manpower on the street. you can't protect your own anymore. we're outnumbered. >> right now, we're seeing all around us, police departments that are collapsing, police departments that are being cut to a fraction of their size. and we're being asked to fill
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the void. dozens and dozens of towns and villages are calling me weekly to come and take over their police functions because they can't afford it anymore. >> i will be struggling to maintain to what i have now, a police force i have not been replacing them as they retire because i have no money for them. my budgets are being sliced and diced. something's got to give. unfortunately, it's the entire community. next on "the squeeze" -- >> you think his own guys will have something? e' tnt cr su esar
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so what's the word? what are the streets saying? >> i believe it was latin kings, it's not for sure yet. right now that's what i'm working on, because they don't know who did it. >> one week after the murder of an alleged gang chief, the mystery remains, who pulled the trigger? >> somebody's going to get famous off this murder, you and i both know that. >> somebody's in their glory right now, laughing, cheering, smiling. what goes around, comes around. >> police have ramped up their presence and bobby v.'s block without incident. authorities are pursuing another theory. >> could be an inside job. the family knew something
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because prior to him going out, there was communication via text, something's going to happen to your kid. it's got to be somebody in your inner circle. i have an idea who the shooter is but we have to put the puzzle together. the more people you hear the story from, you put the story together. >> do you think his own guys had something to do with it? >> oh, yeah. everybody wants to be the top dog. this block versus that block. >> is it fair to say this guy could be the shooter? >> yes. >> knowing that the police are out there daily, what is the game plan? >> to shut us down and be on earn corner. we're just letting time pass by.
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we're basically waiting to and an opportunity. they have leads but nothing solid enough to make an arrest. they know it's only a matter of time. police find is harder than ever to maintain a presence everywhere they need to. >> they're sizing us up. what can we get away with? >> the result, a city that feels less safe while the criminals grow emboldened. >> when i first came to gangs, you know, years back, we spent an entire summer working a two block section in chicago heights. an entire summer.
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that's how much it took. when you hit an area with a large number of officers, you're taking that street crime away because they don't know where the next police car will turn from. and the volume of calls will drop. >> ten april. >> when you pull off and move to the next area, they just right back then. the people you locked up are locked up, somebody else will take their spots and the cycle continues. every department is down. we all have to work under budgets and be responsible and got best we can with what we have. the first thing we want to hear is that we have to do more with even less.
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>> before 2010 is over, three more chicago police officers are shot and killed. raising the total to 6. it's a record high for any year in more than two decades. the question that's on every cop's mind, when do we reach the breaking point? >> whose gun is that? i don't know. i keep telling you, i don't know. >> the story don't stick up. now we have a gun. having guns doesn't add up. i just found the gun a foot and a half from your hand. >> every day is different. we talk about stress and adrenaline. >> you have to be able to ramp it up to address a level of violence that may result in death. everybody has their own way to try and deal with it. you can't keep that bottled up
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