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thousand dollars a pop. >> jail will have a profound effect on who they will become. >> it disgusts me i'm going to be called a child molester. i'm not. i'm like a kid. >> my actual nickname here is rambo. that's from ramming my wife's condo with my truck. >> and for some of these inmates, their time in jail will reveal their true nature. >> in here, somebody knows your weakness, they are going to eat it up. they are going to chew it on.
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unlike prisons that house individuals convicted of crime, jails predominantly contain those accused of crime and awaiting trial. still, almost everyone has their own idea of what kind of person comes to jail. but the reality, rarely fits any one preconceived notion. and the maricopa county jail in phoenix, arizona, is no exception. >> i'm born and raised here in phoenix, arizona been here 24 years, my whole life pretty much. i actually live about seven miles down buckeye road. >> robert miner wound up hereafter being caught with marijuana and a loaded shotgun. even though his old job only required at most a seltzer bottle. >> i am a bum clown, man, it's kind of, a hobo clown what they call it. a little hobo bag. it's good.
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i am a good guy, you know. there is a lot of good people in here. just unfortunately we break laws too. >> helen smith was a full time sales wa mon before being sentenced on drug charges. but her part time job, at least, got her familiar with handcuffs. >> i also am a dominatrix on the weekend. so, yes -- >> a weekend gig? >> a weekend gig, yes. >> we have shackles and we have handcuffs that we use on them if they want that. >> when the sheer monotony of life in tent city gets to william frost and timothy young they take refuge in the identity of others. >> greetings, live from tent city. >> yo, hey, over there, this is rocky stallone. when i'm done, buddy. don't worry about it. get them, rocko, you son of a -- chase the chicken.
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here, chicky, chicky, chicky. >> makes time go by quick. >> back to "lockup" on msnbc. argh. >> representing one's true identity in jail scan be more of a challenge to some than others. braden daly, has a easier time than most. >> i get hit on by a lot of girls here. >> daly claims she is not just a lesbian but a man born into a woman's body. >> when you are transgender your body has a sex. and my sex was male. >> is that you? >> yeah. >> on the right. >> you look like such a skater punk. >> yeah. >> that's what i did. >> besides feeling like she is
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in the wrong body, dailey also sees herself not as a 21-year-old but as a teenager. >> and exploding it everywhere. >> this one. >> i'm not each like an adult mine head yet. i'm not even there yet. i feel like 15, 16-year-old boy, i mean, it's nothing i can really help. >> ha-ha. >> there is a deodorant. we're going to get a write up. dailey's conflict with her gender and age is what brought her to jail. at 19 she began dating a 14-year-old girl who thought dailey was a boy. >> we went to the movies, all of a sudden she wanted to do stuff. and like, sexual stuff in the movies. and, i didn't want to. because she thought i was a guy. >> although dailey claimsing to -- claimed nothing happened,
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other than innocent teenager touching, the girl's parents filed charges and dailey was arrested. >> they found out i was a girl. once they found that out they looked into it and found out the age, and called the cops. they gave me a sexual abuse charge, which is a felony 3. and then they gave me a sexual misconduct with a minor charge which was a felony 2. i honestly didn't know i could get in this much trouble for something like this. i don't get why i have to be called a sex offender when -- i haven't even done anything sexual. >> have you had sex with girls before? >> no. >> not even in here? >> nope. >> and not with boys either? >> nope. >> but it disgusts me that i'm going to be called a child molester. i'm not. i'm like a kid. >> though daly's identity got her in trouble on the outside, it worked to her benefit on the inside. >> this is a list of all of the girls that have been interested
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in me and in the five months that i have been here. i put a star next to ones that i have dated. i put a happy face next to ones that flashed me. and i have put like a weird little symbol, next to the ones that have kissed me. like her. >> this is your little black book? >> yes. >> why do you document all the girls who hit on you? >> because it makes me feel good about myself. >> you will notice she looks somewhat like a young boy, she, she is not very formed like a female, and she tends to accentuate that and put that forward towards the female inmates around here. i see inmate daly as what i term a bmoc, which we used to call back in college, big man on campus. >> see. >> two stars. >> yep. dating star, and kissed me star. >> all the girls that were in
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the hall used to the call her peter pan. she is my girlfriend. even though i am leery of being with men because of what i have been through in the past, i think being with her i don't know it's just -- it's something about it, her looking like a guy but knowing she is a girl is intriguing i guess. >> emily keen is assigned to a neighboring housing unit. but the couple has learned to skirt jail regulations in order to carry on their clandestine courtship. >> we are not allowed to have any letters we can't pass to any other inmates. so we have to be sneaky about it. so we go to this door, and then, after it is folded like this, we just pass it under like that. and then they grab it. and then, they write one and send it back. i stuff this in my legal folders
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so they can't search it. this i covered it with like a cover letter to the, to the judge. but, these are all of the letters from emily. and i think i have given her even more of these. there is 71 letters in here. >> keen still remembers the first time daly wrote her. >> i, you know read the letter from brayden, it said that she was born with x and y chromosomes and taking shots of testosterone. it kind of, blew me back a lit bit. whoa, i didn't think that that would be something that you would put off in the first letter that you are meeting someone, you know what i mean? but she didn't have no shame in it. >> when i wrote her the letter. >> i have been in here five months. and i have done more thinking i think in the five months than i have done in the past, seven years.
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and brayden seemed like the type of chick that would help me stay on the positive side, you know, that i would keep me going, you know, with god and stay out of trouble. >> is she watching me? >> is he watching me? >> uh-huh. >> uh-oh. daily not only declares her needs are taken care of. >> i put money on her books too. her family is mad at her for being here. they don't. >> she started putting money on my books. so i found out, you know that she was a little bit more serious than what i had taken her for. >> if it works out, then it works out. if not, at least i actually know that i have a chance with people that are -- that are at least 18 now. because i didn't before. it felt like, like i looked like their little brother. >> coming up --
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>> i was born five days before pearl harbor. makes me an old guy. >> one of maricopa's oldest inmates comes to jail after mixing love and alcohol. >> i hadn't had any sex for seven months. that was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back. ♪ [ female announcer ] give a little cheer to a family of a soldier. just cut out the cheer from your specially marked box of cheerios, write your message, and we'll see that they get it.
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with more than 9,000 inmates and six facilities, mary cope pa's special response team has the massive task of keeping the jail secure. >> we searched 73,000 bunks last year. 73,000 bunks, are a lot of bunks. you know? so that's our job. >> one way they do this is through frequent inspections for contraband.
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on the ground! get on the ground now! >> okay, they're opening, lower tier. once they're strip searched they're going into the rec yard. straight down the middle. straight down the middle. >> though the goal of the raids is to neutralize threats, some inmates are less threatening than others. >> we go through this about once a month. and usually they're looking for things we're not supposed to have. >> 68-year-old patrick stanwick has been at the 4th avenue jail for the past eight months and is one of maricopa's oldest inmates. >> i was born five days before pearl harbor. that makes me an old guy. >> while some retirees spend their golden years on the golf course, stanwick has spent his dealing with a drinking problem that has landed him in jail twice. the first time it was for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
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>> my wife and i hadn't been getting along for quite a while. i wanted her to go to the bedroom to -- to have some sex -- and i hadn't had any sex for seven months. and so, it was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back when she told me to get out because i was drinking. i loaded my 9 millimeter glock, and went back in to the living room. i said i am not going to lay a hand on you but i am going to get your attention. i aimed it at her. and aimed it over, higher, not to harm her. fired off a shot. and in my frame of mind, in my insanity, that was my way of getting her attention. >> for that, stanwick spent a to months at maricopa. then released on bond, he wasn't out three months before he was in trouble again. and this time his offense earned him a new identity on the cellblock. >> my actual nickname here is rambo. and that's from ramming my wife's condo, with my truck.
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i'm nothing like rambo, but he is one of my heroes. that kind of makes me feel like a bigger guy. >> normally your older inmates are treated with a little bit more respect. i guess it doesn't matter what race they are. they just come in here and they have the respect, given to them due to their age. the other inmates look out after them. take care of them. make sure they know the rules and the rights they have here in the jail and kind of follow them along. >> we take care, look out for him. he is a good old guy. we look out for the older dude, you know what i mean. he is all right. as long as his name isn't ramblow, i'm cool. >> ha-ha. >> while stanwick provides the inmate, with a good laugh, his tattooed face illustrates some of the pain in his past. >> basically it's just so i don't have to shed any more tears. i've been through a lot of stuff where, i am tired of crying.
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>> salize's tears began at age 16. as his girlfriend was giving birth to their son. >> the mother of my child, they both passed away. she bled to death. and my -- my little boy -- strangled himself with the umbilical cord. they both passed away. i was very young at the time, though, but you know still things about it. i think about it. the ifs, the ifs. if they were still alive, or would i be in here? you know, it still haunts me. >> salize's sorrows intensified after he landed at maricopa on a weapons charge. >> i am just in here for walking my dog. i was walking my dog, had a pistol on my hip. so, somebody called the cops said i was walking around armed. >> because of a prior felony conviction, salize was prohibited from owning a firearm and could face up to 12 years in prison if found guilty.
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after almost a year at maricopa, he finds refuge in the philosopher he was named after. >> i guess you can say i am some of what a philosopher, i like reading, aristotle, socrates, homer, the iliad, you know all that. >> he also does his own writing. >> i wrote these pieces. i don't pray with bibles, i pray with false idols. i have no enemies just deceased rivals. because i am creating history with homicidal travels, swimming with crying crocodiles deep in devil's vile. cursed at birth with a lifetime of trial. crime after crime with a pistol. i have been flirting with death and [ bleep ] it with a smile. that's suicide king. i have an extensive history of being suicidal and, i overcame that, you know like, i tried cutting my wrists. i mean, i tried hanging myself. i tried shooting myself. tried poisoning myself.
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and for me it was a lifetime ago. so that being said, i just put it on paper. expressed myself that way. it's more than therapy. it's my life. >> coming up -- >> vegas, a bad habit. vegas. i would make $80,000 bets on a black jack hand. retarded. i love the life. >> one inmate lives the high life on other people's money. >> i steal from corporations like honeywell or motorola you, know what i am saying.
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and she's always staring at me. and we're about to pass her now. >> she gets all red and rosie whenever she sees me. all the girls are like there is brayden. >> dailey and emily keen enjoy their jail house romance. but not all inmates are looking for love. >> the money is a huge thing for me, yeah, i love money. ♪ ♪ >> before her arrest, cary kimbro served time in prison for trafficking meth. while there she earned a degree in graphic arts. when she got out she use herd design skills to manufacture checks and to steal a fortune. >> $1.5 million. that's what they capped it at,
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yeah, in a matter of nine months. i stole a lot of money. got a bunch of account numbers. bam, i was off. i was cashing, $50,000, $60,000 check is a pop. i steal from corporations like honeywell or motorola, you know what i am saying. >> kimbreau's spoils went to feed two voracious addictions, meth and gambling. >> vegas, vegas, bad habit, vegas. i would make $80,000 bets on a black jack hand. retarded. i loved the life. you don't understand what it is look to walk into a casino and have a pit boss and them meet you at the front door, you know what i am saying. they're like, comp your room. comp your drinks. comp your dinner. it's like being freaking britney spears, but not, you know what i am saying? i just started using drugs like,
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heavily. you can't do drugs the whole time. because then you get all stupid and you start a losing sight. that's what got me caught. is that i wasn't paying attention. >> kimbro is hardly the only woman at maricopa to be brought down by drugs. >> catch them running. catch them running. >> staff is constantly on the lookout for any sign of methamphetamine within the jail. >> tearing up the house. >> today, the special response team is searching kimbro's dorm. it doesn't take long before they find something suspicious. >> i pulled out two of the little small baggies. within this -- within this, this county issued pink sock. obviously turned inside out because i rolled it out because i noticed this was a powdered substance in there. >> the officers only need a minute amount of the substance to administer a chemical test. >> first capsule to identify an agent to see if it is actually any kind of controlled
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substance. the second one just does the same. but actually identifies it. and if it turns, the kind of color, indicated color on the side. >> did it turn? >> yes. just the little crumbs off the table. >> just the crumbs. >> what does that mean right there? >> positive for drugs. >> methamphetamine. >> off the table. any amount is too much. so as you can see we have three bags. and at one time you can see that all three bags held a pretty good amount in them. yeah, a pretty good bust for us. >> the inmate who was holding the meth is taken to segregation, pending investigation. but due to the large amount of meth, the team pulls 30 inmates at random for urinalysis. >> 57, kimbro. is that you? >> when the testing is done,
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seven have come up positive for meth. >> so now we are currently writing them up. getting all the paperwork done. and moving everybody off the floor. >> kimbro is one of the seven who tested positive. >> we'll do 30 days, right? we'll do 30 days. 20 to 30 days, yeah. >> romero you are going to 310. kimbro, you're going to 308. >> do drugs, do time, you know better. here you go. >> this is my lovely write-up. they make me sign it. i have to agree. it's stupid. >> during her 30 days in the hole, kimbro will lose the privileges inmates here value the most. interaction with other inmates, outside visitation and ability to purchase food from the
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inmates fed is a herculean task for the food services staff at the maricopa jail in phoenix. >> we have close to 100 inmates working each day. some days of the week we may have as many as 60, 70 inmates. there is never an off day here. we work seven days a week, 365 days a year. >> each inmate is fed twice daily. on a budget that the jail claims is less than 90 cents a day. the inmates say, it tastes that way. >> like the dog food we get. straight out of a can, kit -- kibble and bits, homey. >> i'm a big fan of spinach. big fan of spinach. but i'm pretty sure that came out of a lawn mower. >> each of the meals they're
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preparing right now currently has, usually a fruit, a vegetable, some type of bread, and then the hot meal portion, usually is some type of potato and meat product. >> what is that? is that whole wheat, potatoes come in a whole wheat. i'm confused. >> the food here is slop. it's lousy. i wouldn't feed it to my dog. >> look at this, see all that grease? >> yeah. >> do you need product for your hair? >> the food last night, was, what was that? >> like meat. >> chili mac. >> to avoid jail fare inmates with money on their books can buy food from the commissary. thanks to her girlfriend, emily keen's pantry is full. >> i have purchased like $125 a week. this is the sweets.
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donuts. honey buns. snickers. muffins. this is like chips. >> keen's snack food stash is made possible by her girlfriend, brayden dailey who puts money on her books every week. >> mix this with this and cheese and water and make noodles. >> while keen gets sustenance from junk food, dailey covets a small patch of sun light out on the rec yard. >> no. i've don't want any. dude. >> you are taller. >> i was there first. >> we're in rec, we sit up and stare at the planes, try to figure out what kind they are. and what airlines. and we just, some times we feel like we could go with the planes. and now it's gone.
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it's right there. that's -- american airlines. >> don't go. take me with you. >> the roar of jet engines over maricopa's rec yard is constant. so se the main topic of conversation, relationships. >> she was like saying she missed me and all this stuff. so i told her that, i will write with her, whether she goes to prison or not, and whether i go or not. >> she is going to be your girl. >> but in the world of incarceration, there are no guarantees. emily keen has just been offered a plea that can send her to prison for eight to 15 years and take her far away from dailey. >> she said that she wanted to be my girlfriend when she got out. so i don't know if she would be willing to wait that long.
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>> facing a charge of sexual misconduct with a minor, dailey is also looking at potential prison time. >> if i do go to prison i would end up on the same yard as her. so i, i would look still be able to see her all the time. i don't really care anymore if i go to prison because, now that i have to, like register and everything, it's going to be boring. >> dailey has a big decision to make. she could go to trial and possibly be acquitted and set free. but if found guilty she could be sentenced up to 20 years in prison. or, she would sign a plea deal that would reduce her charges to attempted sexual misconduct with a minor and serve no more than two years in prison. either way, she would still face the lifetime stigma of registering as a sex offender. >> when some one has to register as that they have to register for life. i was really mad. that's why i would rather just
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go to prison. less strict in there. >> what do you mean? >> you know, like -- first of all, there would be a lot of girls in prison. ha-ha. and -- the more i stay in jail, prison, the more i, communicate with like girls my age and stuff. and so, it's also helped me to mature. and feel older and stuff. i don't think i am ready to go home yet. i mean, i can't -- i can't face the world yet. >> even though daly says her heart currently lies with emily keen, she is keeping her options open. she has recently begun corresponding with carrie kimbro, who is serving time in the hole for testing positive for meth. >> cary has started writing me. she was saying she was interested in me and we just started writing back and forth all the time. she was saying that she saw
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emily at court one day and carrie said if you don't watch out, i'm going to steal brayden from you. >> maricopa's jail house philosopher, aristotle salize knows in here friendships are not always what they seem. >> you have to be careful, people form these relationships may, get you in trouble. and lead you wrong or steer you wrong. >> coming up. believe it or not. brayden ended up cheating on me with another girl and i'm very disappointed. >> care rye and i got really close writing each other. >> her mom puts money on my books every week. her mom sends me books. it's something for me to do. [ artis brown ] america is facing some tough challenges right now.
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>> puzzles, an easy one that keeps me up on the words because i started losing my vocabulary after a while. and i don't want to get into it too much of that, you know stuff. >> as one of the oldest inmates at the maricopa county jail in phoenix, 68-year-old patrick stanwick has found his own way to fit in. >> i can't say i have got an enemy. i don't feel like i've got an enemy in maybe 72 guys in here we listen to each other's stories. and a lot of them are really sad. i used to think my dad was hard on me growing up. he used to whip me with a belt. these guys have been whipped with 2 x 4s and worse. my story is nothing compared to them. i just shut up and listen.
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a lot of them haven't had any dads. i can be a dad figure. i can be a grandfather figure. and i'm grandpa or papa, that's okay. there is a lot of camaraderie here. and we are all, like kind of like being in the military. not to insult the military, i've been there ten years. there is a regiment to it. >> initially it took time for stanwick to accept being incarcerated. >> when he first got here he had a little bit of an attitude problem. he was grumpy. think he was having problems adjusting to the new environment that he had. nothing major. just, you know, kind of a pissy attitude i don't want to be here. i am going to be grumpy. he was a little abrasive. he just came in for food and normally you ask their name and most of them are cool when you ask them their name or whatever. what's your name?
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stanwick! he changed over time. i don't know if it was he came to the realization where he was at and accepted it. or he got used to the environment. as used as the guys can get. >> the biggest thing i tried to learn in here is how to stay out of trouble. you know because i already come in with enough trouble. i've don't need any more. i'm trying to make the best of a bad situation. but -- there are some days it's not too bad. >> today is one of those days. stanwick just had a visit from his wife. he is hoping to salvage his eight-year marriage, despite having rammed her condominium with his truck. >> she visited for an hour. we had a very nice discussion. and, it looks like we may be able to put things back together. i am an alcoholic. and that's caused my problems with my marriage. i got seven grandchildren, one great grandchild at home in ohio. and i hope to be able to go and visit, this spring, summer and fall when i am free and stay out of trouble. >> stanwick hopes that by
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getting himself in shape, he might be better able to deal with his alcoholism. >> 27 times around this loop is one mile. and i try to do two miles a day, my age, i can't really do the physical exercise all the young guys do. i believe the system will turn me free. and i will be able to go back to being a retired old man like i was before i got in to all of this trouble. >> inmates at the maricopa county jail, employ a variety of ways to pass time while doing time. brayden daly likes to play tricks on her cellmate. >> she's terrified of the mice. she'll think there is a mouse in here. >> dailey's jail house girlfriend, emily keen, says her latest trick wasn't the least bit funny.
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>> believe it or not, brayden ended up cheating on me with another girl. and i am very disappointed. >> have it. >> she was putting money on my books. everything was going good. i found out a couple days ago she started dating some girl in the hole for 45 days. so it has been going on and i guess you could say i do feel played, but, you can't hate the player, you hate the game. >> brayden is going out with carrie. >> his latest interest is carrie kimbro who finished a turn in the hole after being tested positive for meth. >> carrie and i got close, writing each other. we go to rec with each other. sit down and talk to each other all the time. carrie would look at each other and be content. >> we are just friends kind of right now. she likes me more than that. i do have a husband that is in prison. we're not going to be together anymore. he almost killed me.
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so, i -- i am anti-men right now. >> for kimbro, the friendship with dailey has benefits. >> her mom puts money on my books every week. her mom sends me books. that's something we are going to do. >> daly who came to jail because of an inappropriate relationship with a minor, sees 28-year-old kimbro as a step in the right direction. >> it's weird because our age difference is kind of a gap. she is about seven years older than me. that's different from, anything i have, anyone i have dated before obviously. but we have gotten really close. i know pretty much anything about her, like, if you asked me i would know it. >> but there are some things dailey doesn't know. >> i don't think that i will carry on a relationship with brayden out of jail. it its a friendship thing. i think brayden is a little too
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immature, and her crime, the actual specifics of her crime. my brother-in-law sent me a postcard, letting me know i was involving a very, very young minor. that didn't make me happy. brayden is just a friend. she needs somebody i think as a friend, you know to be there for her. to maybe help guide her. but there is no way i am going to be anything sexual there. no way. >> carrie has trust issues because of her last relationship. she is afraid. carrie has been through a lot in past relationships, so have i. carrie and i had an issue about me being transgentderred because she liked girls more than guys, and i was going to get surgery to be a buy. i told carrie, well if it absolutely came down to it. i could probably stop my surgery. but i told carrie how important it was to me and she knows how important it is to me and she agreed that she -- she would still be here.
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it would be fine. >> the key to survive is to be head strong and don't show any weaknesses because in here, it's a zoo. you know, somebody knows your weakness, they're going to eat it up. they're going to chew on it. coming up, personal dramas inside the maricopa county jail will forever alter lives. more. the world needs more energy. where's it going to come from? ♪ that's why right here, in australia, chevron is building one of the biggest natural gas projects in the world. enough power for a city the size of singapore for 50 years. what's it going to do to the planet? natural gas is the cleanest conventional fuel there is. we've got to be smart about this. it's a smart way to go. ♪
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deal with her prosecutor. >> you're in a little box all day, either by yourself or with a stranger that you don't know anything about. you don't know why they're there. and you can't have fun in jail. you can try, but you're here to do time and leave. >> but now at least the end is in site. -- in sight. daley decided to sign a plea deal reducing her charge of sexual misconduct with a minor to attempted sexual misconduct with a minor. as a result, she will serve another six months at maricopa before going home. but she will face lifelong probation and register as a sex offender and adhere to the long list of restrictions that come with it. >> the fears i have once i leave is the fact that every time i see someone younger than me, or younger than 18, i'm going to have to -- i'm going to have to turn and basically run away.
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i'm going to be labeled as a sex offender the rest of my life. and it's really hard because i've never seen myself like that. >> but dailey says she hasn't lost hope. >> i got to meet with my in-house probation officer and she gave me some good news. i have lifetime probation and i'm actually going to only be doing about five years of it if i do what i'm supposed to, if i get everything done, like get my ged, go to classes. >> dailey's friend, carrie kimbrough signed a plea deal, as well. possibly facing 16 years in prison, she has pled to three counts of forgery with a sentence of 4 1/2 years. but with good time and probation, she could be back home in a year and a half. >> i could have done cartwheels in my courtroom. i was excited, i was happy. i'm very fortunate and very
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lucky that i'll be able to go home in a year and a half and i'll be able to be with my kids and stuff. it's awesome >> i was really excited because now i get to see her a lot quicker. my relationship with carrie when i get out of here, it's going to be serious after i get out of here. we are already getting there. we can get married in prison. i have already checked in to that. >> brayden daley may believe that they have a future together. but now that she's likely to soon be leaving maricopa, kimbrough has just revealed to us that her relationship with dally was just a scam. >> my friend introduced me. she was like, she puts money on other people's books. and she was like, seriously, and she's a writer. so i started writing her letters. it became a hustle for me. my relationship with brayden is
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a hustle. her mom puts money on my books every week. i don't have to see her, i don't touch her. my mom is sick. i don't want to ask her. my in-laws take care of my kids, you know. i don't have any money of my own right now, so -- a girl has to have a game while she's in jail, right? >> carrie kimbrough may be willing to cause pain to get what she wants, but 68-year-old patrick stanwick has learned the hard way that hurting someone can come back to haunt you. his wife just sent him separation papers. they arrived on their wedding anniversary. >> she said it was just a coincidence, but it's a hell of a coincidence. >> what would you say to her? it would be what i have said to her in my letters. i'm very sorry. we've always had a communication problem and you remember
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probably better off not to have met me and i can't say the same thing about her because i enjoy and love her. but she'll have wounds. she's already got wounds and -- from this. she's afraid of me and with the right -- with real reasons and i hope that life goes on. good for her. she's a good person. i haven't been a good grandpa or a good father. but i'm an alcoholic and i did the best i could. so hopefully i'll get through this and still have a few years left to spend with my family. if my wife wants to come, if she's still my wife, then she's welcome to. but they have to be my priority now because my time is running out. >> like all inmates at maricopa,
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stanwick, daley and kimbrough will see their lives forever altered by the actions that brought them here. so will salize. >> dealing with the other guys in here and hearing their stories is like it's very emotional, you know? i won't shed no tears for anything, you know. me being in here it's not going to help anything to be crying about it. believe me, sometimes i do, i do feel like crying, yelling out, with screaming and, you know, just hitting things. but you know, it's very emotional. it's an emotional roller coaster in here.
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