tv The Family Secret MSNBC November 6, 2011 12:00pm-1:00pm PST
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it started as a happy blended family, mom and her k s kids, dad and his. seemingly left his heartbroken wife and her children. >> person you thought you were closest to in the whole world turn and walked away. is that really what happened? one child knew the truth. >> still burned in my memory. >> sworn me to secrecy. made me promise.
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>> dark secret kept for 27 years. >> you stuff it deep inside and tried to be normal. >> we all have secrets. >> i was going to have to betray her. >> but not like this. the family secret. >> thanks for joining us. i'm ann curry. the story we bring you now settle on a mother and daughter locked in a struggle over a dark secret closely guarded for 27 years. the terrible truth was only unleashed when one of them could no longer lead a lie. here's keith morrison. it was a little girl who learned it first, the 12-year-old. she who was there at the beginning when the family secret was born. >> it's not something we like to talk about. >> why did it get started? >> i honestly didn't know what else to do. >> why did she keep it so long? >> she was all i had. >> while it did its evil work. >> the things that she had locked away.
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we couldn't even stand it. >> what would that secret do? >> everybody has a secret or two. but this? >> ah, yes, family. i suppose you could say this one, the family, if not the secret, got started in the middle of nowhere, which is what they like to call it here in ainsworth, nebraska. it wasn't so surprising perhaps that when young lloyd ford was done with school, he got out, joined the navy, sailed off to see the wide world from an aircraft carrier. this man at the center of the secret. sandy burke is his eldest daughter. >> my dad was just a fun guy. he was very fun loving. he loved people. people loved him. people tended to gravitate towards my dad. >> especially women. that was not a secret. when lloyd went back to little ainsworth after his stint in the navy, one of the hometown girls caught his eye at the county fair.
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before long, they were married. and that's how sandy came along and her little sister pamela, who loved her dad, but apparently wasn't the only one. >> all of the women around here had huge crushes on him and his brother. and i've always heard he had to have a woman in his life. >> and when lloyd and his wife took their little family out west, it was, so they say, to get away from some other woman. anyway, that's where little tommy was born. and lloyd learned to be a real family man. >> he loved fishing. he would take us fishing, and we'd bring strings of fish home or sometimes we'd bring no fish home, but -- >> we usually had them for breakfast. >> yeah, we did. >> people look at say, you had pancakes and trout. that's what you made when you went camping with dad pancakes and trout. >> he would love to have us with him. we'd get down on the floor, and we'd crawl all over him.
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>> and then -- well, the kids are always the last know what happened or why, but it wasn't long before their mom suddenly packed them up and headed back to nebraska. >> divorce, one will take one side of the other. and i took my mom's. my dad was the bad guy. my dad did something to make my mom leave. >> they loved him still, of course, even when he started courting the new woman, judy, twice divorced, three kids of her own, including kimberly, judy's only daughter, who, all in all, was happier on those rare occasions when there was no man around her mother. >> i personally liked it best when it was just her, the boys and i. no husband. because her attention was focused. >> you'd loz her. >> yeah. >> when a new maim came along, what was she like with that
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person? >> they were it. we still got fed and taken care of and the norm. you know. but it was all about them. >> and in 1973 it was all about lloyd. they married and then divorced and then remarried. and tried to pretend a "brady bunch" life at this house on clark street in boise, idaho. floyd drove long haul trucks. judy styled hair. they joined the shriners, went bowling, planned fishing trips. lloyd's youngest, tommy, lived with him and his step-mom, but pamela stayed with her mother in nebraska and rarely visited. by 1980 sandy was 20 and off at college, but still, as always, called lloyd every week, until the day judy answered the phone. >> and when i first called, judy told me he was away on business. so i called back a few days later. she said, oh, no, he isn't home yet.
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i thought, that's funny because he's usually only gone for like or two or three days and he'll be back. and i called the next week and he still wasn't home. and i called my mom. so i think that my mom called out to judy, and she said, well, the truth was she thought that lloyd had ran off with another woman and she didn't think he was coming back. >> days went by, then weeks. no word from their dad. at the end of the school year, tommy's step-mom sent him back to nebraska to live with his birth family. >> it was hard. i mean my dad, for tom and i especially, he was everything to us. >> and you thought he loved you. >> yeah. >> and now it seemed, perhaps, he didn't even care. >> you know, when we first heard, i think we really believed he would be back. if he left judy, he would be back to get us. >> that summer, lloyd's father hired a private investigator. your father's father assumed
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that he abandoned him, too, and everybody. >> it was very hard on my grandfather. my grandfather would come in almost every week and -- to give me updates on, you know, had we heard anything. the detective hadn't found anything. he was following leads, but nothing was coming up. >> he heard stories. he moved to michigan. he boarded a plane and never made his connection. even a story that he was on mount st. helens when it's erupted. sandy and her sister pam longed for answers, a phone call even, but there was nothing. where was their father? whatever happened to lloyd ford? here's a hint. sandy didn't know the family's secret, nor did pam. but kimberly did. she knew all about it. where lloyd went and why. because she was there. but if she revealed it, would anyone even believe the chilling
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tale she'd carried and hidden for so long? coming up -- >> i spent my whole life waiting for the other shoe to drop. you know? >> and here it was. the secret slips out. >> i knew i needed to do the right thing. >> and investigators step in. when "the family secret" continues. e rest of my life... e rest of my life... especially my finances. that's why i have slate, with blueprint. i can create my own plan to pay down large purchases faster... or avoid interest on everyday items. that saves me money. with slate from chase, i'm always in control. financially, anyway. get slate with blueprint and save money. call 855-get-slate today. ♪ that's good morning, veggie style.
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abandoned, devastated. >> i mean the ground you stand on doesn't seem stable anymore because every single thing that we had built our trust and security in was gone. but on top of that, to be told that my father purposely left us without a word, did we do something? i mean are we not loveable enough? did we do something terrible? >> no, but someone did. though these sisters couldn't know, but the answer to their decades of questions might involve the complicated relationships in lloyd's new family, particularly between a mother and daughter, between judy and her daughter kimberly. little kim. nervous, needy. desperate to be perfect. how does a little girl attempt to be perfect for her mother? >> she tries not to make her mad. you know? do things that i know would make her happy. clean the house. we all worked in the yard. everything had to be just so. so it looked nice when someone
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came over. so it would look normal. >> and if it did, the love could be so good, so warm, enveloping, happy, if only the furies could be kept at bay. you learned to read her moods? >> oh, yeah. really well. if she wasn't in a good mood, we stayed gone. out of the house. >> stayed out of her way. >> oh, yeah. >> because? you didn't want to see her upset. >> that said, kim, was the woman her children knew so inty managemently, not like the judy who presented herself one way or another to the outside world. >> she was different for everybody. to a newcomer or her friends, she was very loving, giving person. but what they didn't see was she would do whatever it took to get what she wanted.
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>> you saw all this happening when you were a little kid? >> sure. she knows in a certain situation what she needs to say. you know, i should laugh here. you know, maybe i should cry. >> watching this, she knew very well that love one moment to the next could be given or withdrawn. >> she was the woman we feared. you did as you were told. snore if she wanted you to do something and you just kind of didn't do it -- >> oh, no, we never did that. never. didn't want to rock the boat. you know? i was so afraid she was going to leave. >> and thus it was abandonment kim feared when her mother brought men home. >> she was all i had. >> because it was changed all the time. all these men would come in her life, your life, and then go again. you had her. >> right. >> anyway, judy stayed put.
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it was lloyd who would not be sticking around. after her husband seemed to disappear off the face of the earth, judy filed for divorce. and when lloyd didn't show up at the hearing, judy got everything. kim remembers a rainy afternoon when her mother pawned off their wedding ring. she remarried, a man named tom gough. life went on. a quarter century passed. by 2007 kim was 40. a single mother of two teenagers of her own. still held in her own mother's emotional web. but unspoken guilt increasingly clouded her mood, even at work. this was her boss, gary ziegler. what did she seem like to you? >> always seemed like she was carrying something deep down inside her, some kind of baggage. i couldn't put my finger on it for a long time. >> gary had -- what would you call it -- antenna for these things.
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>> he had called me to come have coffee with him. he could read me really well. and he was like, what's wrong? and i fell apart. >> told him the whole thing. >> told him everything. >> and that's how the family secret contained for more than 20 years was leaked for the first time to an outsider who listened in something like disbelief. >> everybody has a secret or two. but this? i deliberated for days before telling anybody. >> you decided not to keep the secret. >> correct. i knew the way i was raised, i needed to do the right thing. >> so gary called the prosecutor's office, which called the boise police department, which opened an investigation into lloyd's long-ago departure, a 27-year-old disappearance, a case they never knew existed, but they certainly did now. and that's how one day the cops showed up on kim's doorstep.
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>> i spent my whole life waiting for the other shoe to drop, you know? >> and here it was. coming up -- what was it about lloyd's disappearance? >> she says, how would you like it if lloyd was gone? i'm thinking there's no way she'd do it. who would do that? >> the mystery is about to be answered. when "the family secret" continues. endless shrimp is our most popular promotion at red lobster. there's so many choices... the guests love it! [ male announcer ] it's endless shrimp today at red lobster.
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kimberly had a secret. a terrible, unspeakable, guilty family secret. she kept it, nursed it, cried about it for a quarter century until finally no longer able to hide the awful truth, she spilled it to her boss. and now she's about to tell us. >> it's real hard to face the truth. it almost killed me. >> it was late afternoon. spring was coming. it was 1980. lloyd was still around.
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the rest of the kids outside. kim was, as usual, trying to be the perfect little daughter, helping around the house. they were in the kitchen, kim says, when judy looked down at her and asked a very curious question. >> she was just cooking dinner, and she said, how would you like it if lloyd was gone? gone, to a 12-year-old? going? divorcing? moving out? >> what did you think when you heard that? snoop it sounded all right. >> kim was used to judy's uneven love life. divorce didn't sound like disaster. she loved having her mother to herself. here's kim's memory of what her mother said to her. >> oh, you know, wouldn't it be nice if he wasn't here and we could be together, you know, just you guys and me, and wouldn't it be nice, just like i always wanted it. >> but then suddenly, unmiss
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takably, said kim, her mother's idea changed. didn't sound like divorce after all. >> she made a list of all his faults. >> do you remember what you said? >> i never really questioned her. just sit there and let her talk. >> safer. >> yeah. >> and this went on. >> a couple days. maybe a week. and each day it was a little more revealing. until finally she just blurted out, you know, what would you think if he was dead? >> did you think that that meant -- >> i thought like maybe he had cancer or he was sick, you know. >> that maybe he was going to die and she was preparing you? >> yeah, you know. you never know. >> but that was not what judy had in mind, said kim, and soon it was much clearer what she did intend. >> and then she said, what if i killed him. >> what if i killed him. >> right. she was being so vague. and i was thinking, there's no
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way she'd do it. this was so surreal. who would do that. >> then that was the last she said for a while or what? >> for a bit. and then she started going through scenarios. you know? what if i smothered him? what if i slit his throat? and you're sitting there and you're like, why are you telling me this? >> she was 12, desperate for her mother's approval, which is why, she said, she muffled the silent voice in her head that asked why she was being sent to the store to buy sleeping pills. when you went on that errand, did you have any notion what it was for? >> she sent us to the store all the time. >> later on you saw her doing something with those sleeping pills? >> crunching them up. >> crunching them up. >> mm-hmm. >> to a powder. >> mm-hmm. >> kim watched judy prepare lloyd's favorite dessert, ice cream with butterscotch topping,
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watched judy mix in the crushed sleeping pills, watched lloyd devour it. the next morning when the boys went off to school, judy kept kim at home, so she knew her step-father stay in bed, saw her mother crush more pills in lloyd's coffee, in his soup, in more ice cream. later, said kim, she heard a racket behind the bedroom door. >> lloyd was trying to get out to go to the bathroom. and they had their fishing poles behind the door. and he had the hooks in his hands. >> ow. >> yeah. i don't even know that he felt the pain. but he was all tangled up and he was mumbling. the only thing i understood was, lloyd had said, what in the hell is wrong with me? and he kept falling into the wall. and she's, you know, telling him he's going to be fine. you know, you'll feel better soon. >> then, kim says, judy turned around to her, gave her another errand. >> i was told to go outside and get the trunk and clean it out. >> did you understand why you
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were doing it? >> i think i was too afraid to comprehend what was going on. i was just living second to second doing what she was telling me to do. >> but she remembers, she said, clear as if it was this very morning, what happened when she dragged an old trunk back into the house. >> she had come out of the bedroom, and she was standing there smoking, and i was in the living room, and she just put it out and said, i'm ready. coming up -- one moment of horror and a lifetime of pain. >> you just stop it. try to be normal. >> reliving that fateful moment when "the family secret" continues. my patients,
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i'm milissa rehberger. greek leaders have decided to form an outline. more talks are scheduled form. and eight days after a rare october snowstorm, more than 100,000 customers are still without electricity in connecticut. officials there say their goal is to restore power to 99% of customers by day's end. now back to "the family secret." kimberly, 12 years old, saw her mother standing in the living room of their house on clark street in boise, idaho. behind the bedroom door, her stepfather was in a stupor, induced by the very sleeping pills kim said her mother had sernlt her to buy. now, said kim, she heard her mother say -- i'm ready. >> she told me to go in the bedroom, which i didn't like,
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because we weren't allowed in there. she had been in there prior, checking on him and whatnot, at some point had put him on the floor on a sheet. and i really didn't know exactly how she was going to do it until i walked in and saw the gun at the end of the bed. and she went over and turned up the stereo really loud and she said it would cover the noise. first she asked me to pull the trigger. >> she gave you the gun? >> no, no, she was holding it. >> she was holding the gun. pointed at him. right. >> where at him? >> at his chest. then she said, well, help me pull the trigger. and i basically refused to do it. and i started screaming at you. what do you want? what do you want from me? what do you want me to do. and she said, just cover my ears. and so i put my hands on either side of her, and i closed my eyes really tight, and she kept
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saying something, and it seemed like forever, and gist screamed. i said, if you're going do it, just do it. and it was just a moment later. it was this loudest noise i ever heard in my life. and i ran out the backyard into the alley. >> kim cowered there, shaking and listening. >> i was horrified. i just sat there. i mean i was crying and screaming and rocking back and forth and listening. >> listening for what? >> for his voice, her voice, something. >> because you didn't think she had actually done it? >> i wasn't sure. maybe she missed. maybe he woke up. you know. there was part of me that really wanted him to wake up. but i made my way back to the house. >> back to her mother.
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>> i think she hugged me, told me she loved me. >> that was supposed to make it okay? >> yeah. >> and did it? >> no. >> what happened then? >> i had to go into the room, and the smell was still there. >> the smell of what? >> gunpowder. and i didn't look at him. i just grabbed the end of my sheet and did as i was told. >> the sheet he was lying on. >> pulled him down the hall. she had one end, i had the other. >> right. >> and he was too heavy. he was so heavy. >> this is where you got in close? >> i had to touch him. >> what did it feel like? >> he was still warm. >> but very obviously dead? >> yeah. >> but she was not finished then. not even close. her mother, she said, had another job for her. >> she says, well, we got to lift him up and put him in the trunk.
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and i had to grab him under his legs. he was so heavy. and we got him in there, and she just shut the lid, closed the latches. and we drug it out back and put it next to the house. >> out the door on the porch? >> stacked some boxes on it. >> judy rented carpet cleaner. kim helped her clean the blood off the floors. she scrubbed the blood off the wall. she made it look normal. but that trunk kept sitting there on the porch. what did she do with it? >> a couple days before she murdered him, she told the boys that we were going to plant a peach tree out back, so to dig a big hole to put the tree in. and a few days after the murder,
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the hole's filled in and there's no peach tree. she changed her mind. >> did you ever figure out how she got that trufrmg from the porch to the hole and got it filled in? >> she had to ask my brother shane. >> so now there will are two people in on it. you and shane. did you talk to shane about it? >> not really. >> you're brother and sister. did the two of you say, my god, she just killed him and we're complicit, and that conversation never happened? why not? >> we didn't talk about it. she swore me to secrecy. made me promise. >> there was more to the secret then. judy, said kim, devised a cover story. and when she said it, it sounded true. >> she totally lived the my husband left me for another woman.
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>> and that was really believable? >> yeah. and it was such a short time after lloyd left -- lloyd was murdered -- >> funny how that's stuck in your head lloyd left. because that was the fiction. >> that's what we had to say. >> kim locked up the secret, kept her mother happy. but it wasn't over. a few months later she said, judy had another job for kim and her brother shane. couldn't leave a body in the backyard said judy. they'd have to dig it up. move it. they buried it in an old trunk they had on the property back then. this one is still on the porch all these years later. out in the yard, said kim, they started digging. >> we were digging for quite a while. and we came to the trunk, and it was falling apart. >> they looked to their mother. what should they do? >> and she was just so cold and matter of fact, you know, just grab what you can. as we started pulling it out, there was this horrendous smell.
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>> he hadn't disintegrated. >> not much. and you could still see his tattoos on his arms. they had decided that it wasn't going to work and to just rebury him. >> so he stayed there. >> he stayed. and you just stuff it deep inside and try to be normal. >> but, of course, it wasn't normal at all. and over the years, said kim, it was only her conflicted ties to her mother, that powerful emotional glue, that kept the two close and the secret horror bottled up, that and her mother's promise. >> hundreds and hundreds of times she reassured me that, you know, i'll go turn myself in if it will make you better. >> what should she do? a perfect daughter could never betray her mother, nor could anyone apparently in this circle of deceit that grew and grew.
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the murder of their father, and so they knew nothing, nothing at all. in 1981, less than a year after lloyd's murder, judy got married again and life went on as before. 15 years after the murder. judy sold the house on clark street to her youngest son, kim's little brother, with his new wife who knew about the secret and insisted get rid of the body. now kim married with two kids of her own, returned to that childhood home and told her siblings where to dig. >> i had to go show them where it was because nobody remembered. >> but you did. >> sure. it's still burned in my memory. >> kim's brother and a cousin dug up lloyd's remains, took them to a dumpster. the secret circle grew. and kim felt she loved her mother still, but warned her, too, it was ever harder to keep
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silent. >> i guess i had made a deal with her, which was, i would never come right out and tell anybody. and i told her unless somebody asked me directly because i won't lie. she didn't like that answer. so she'd always call and do a mental check on me and then do her old stand-by promise that she'll do the right thing. >> if and when the time came. right. >> but she didn't. and now kim had told. and 27 years after the day she was her mother's little helper at murder, the police were at her door. detective brian lee. >> my first reaction was one of disbelief almost. really? could this event have been kept quiet this long? >> what did she look like when she came to the door? >> i wouldn't say she was surprised. almost expecting probably that
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we were going to be there. >> so she told it again, relieved to be getting rid of it. then came the request she didn't expect. more than a request, really. she'd have to go undercover and record an incriminating phone call with her mother. what was that conversation like? >> that was so hard. i was going to have to betray her. to get what they wanted. >> hello. >> hay, what are you doing? here as the call begins they chatter for a bit about nothing much. and then -- >> well, i just wanted to talk to you about something. and i won't bring it up again. but i started seeing a counselor up here. >> mm-hmm. >> i talk about everything. but anyway, i got to go again today. but just some things i want to get clear in my head. >> yeah? >> it's not something we like to talk about, but um -- why did yowl pick me to help you kill lloyd? >> honey, i didn't.
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>> well, why was i there? >> i don't know. is this a setup phone call? >> no. >> can i call you back? >> okay. >> the call was over. a failure. what did you think when you heard that? >> it made me a little nervous. >> i bet. >> she was pretty keen to what was going on, i think. >> then judy called back. they pushed the "record" button. >> you know, i can't say anything except that you don't know the regrets that i've had and that i still have. i don't know that i can answer your question. i don't remember a whole lot of it. you know, we had talked, and i was trying to figure out how to get out of it. and i remember you just saying, do it, do it, do it, do it. >> mom, i was 12. >> i know.
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kim. i know that. but i'm just telling you what i was hearing, you know what i mean? and it was like at that point there was no turning back. i guess i felt like i was trying to dig myself out of. i was in hell, i guess. i don't know. and i'm so sorry i took you there with me. >> the police had what they needed. but judy wasn't finished. >> i guess the only thing i can tell you, kim, is that i love you more than i love life. i'm sorry that i failed you. and i'm sorry that you have to go through this. i know that doesn't even begin to help, but i would lay down my life for you if that means anything to you. >> i felt like i was going to die. i'd betrayed her.
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i'd lost her. there was nothing i could do. i betrayed her, and i betrayed my whole family, but i sort of believe we had some sort of family honor. whelp it's all said and done, it didn't exist. >> and now the police wanted more. >> but they wanted me to go over to the house and show where everything had happened. >> reporter: once again, point out the spot where he was buried? >> yeah. >> it was, of course, burned into her memory. for three days, the police dug up the past in the backyard on clark street. >> we had to go over and process that area where we were told the body was. part of validating the story that kim told. >> so was there anything left? >> we found fragments of bone
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on bone. >> seven bone fragments, all that was left of lloyd ford. police were able to determine that at least ten members of judy's family had helped keep the secret. in your experience, when that many people are aware of such a dark thing, does it stay hidden for very long? >> no. that's what was puzzling to us. how it was kept quiet for that long. >> it suggests a measure of control over those folks, which would be unusual. >> very much so. >> but the statute of limitations applied now. only one person could be held accountable. only judy. and thus the law would ensure that kim's awful secret would be exposed in court, the crime revealed, justice served. but would it be justice? or even the whole truth? kim had turned on judy. but this mother hadn't quite finished yet with her daughter. >> i know she was screaming, do it, do it, do it. just do it. coming up --
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>> narrator: lloyd ford missed his children's birthdays, missed their graduations, their weddings, sandy burke's brother tom walked her down the aisle. lloyd missed all that because, or so his family was told, he'd left them all, just didn't care. >> just not having him there was really hard. but to think that he had walked away, we couldn't even stand it to the point that my brother and i had never had pictures of my dad out in the house. because if you have a picture there, someone's going to have to ask about your dad and you're
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going to have to admit that the person that you thought you were closest to in the whole world had just turned and walked away. where is your dad now? i don't know. >> narrator: but of course, it was all a lie. their father never left them. and the truth, when police finally called to tell them? >> it was just almost indescribable, to think that he'd been murdered the way he'd been murdered. with absolutely no regard for human life, none. just treated like a piece of garbage. that was hard. >> narrator: yes, and then they discovered that lloyd's own son tom had unknowingly dug his father's grave when judy told him to prepare a backyard hole to plant a peach tree. >> i think it's almost impossible to comprehend that type of evil. >> narrator: sandy watched online as the boise police dug up all that was left of their father. those seven bone fragments.
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she tried to understand how judy got her own children to help murder their father. >> my dad was the only dad these kids knew, and yet somehow she got these kids to participate in the murder, to bury the body, to dig up the body later that year. how do you get your kids to do something like that? where is your mind? of someone that would do something like that. >> narrator: on september 28th, 2007, judy gough, now a 61-year-old grandmother, took her dogs for a walk. and that's where police arrested her. when they took her downtown? >> she requested an attorney right as we sat down. >> narrator: that was it? >> there was no interview. >> narrator: no surprise. >> not to me, really. she had 27 years to think about that decision. >> narrator: judy was charged with first degree murder. that's when patrick orr of the idaho statesman began reporting the story. >> this was somebody who had no criminal record. her friends described her as a kind, loving person.
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somebody they trusted. so there was a lot of confusion. there was a lot of shock. >> narrator: judy appeared before a judge who determined she was not a risk and granted bail. and six months later her public defender went on the offense with a stunning claim. lloyd, she said, was an abuser. she killed him, she said, in defense of her life and her children. >> this is a woman who loves her family, would do whatever she can for her family. >> narrator: reporter orr spoke to judy's youngest son. >> he told me that lloyd was abusive. >> narrator: lloyd? abusive? his own children were outraged at the accusation. >> that wasn't my dad. it was ludicrous to think there was anything going on in the home with my dad and judy. >> narrator: no abuse? >> no abuse. absolutely nothing. if there had been anything going on when my dad disappeared, we would have gone to the police
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and had them investigate this. if there was the littlest reason to suspect judy, it would have been a horrible thing, but it would have been over with 30 years ago. >> narrator: but as the date for judy's trial approached her claim that lloyd was an abuser, hit the paper, became big news around boise. would judy try a battered wife defense? lloyd's children furious and upset about what they considered vicious libel, bit their tongues when the prosecutor told them don't say a word in your father's defense, the truth would come out at trial. except that it didn't. the trial didn't happen. judy struck a deal. >> please state your name for the record. >> judy gough. >> narrator: to plead guilty to second degree murder and confess. though the confession wasn't quite the story her daughter kim remembered. >> i had a rifle. i was sitting on the edge of the bed and i had the gun across my lap. he was sitting on the floor by
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my dresser, kitty-corner from me. the gun went off. it was a terrible smell. and he was dead. >> when you say the gun went off, what do you mean by that? >> your honor, i -- i must have pulled the trigger. >> narrator: then the judge asked about her daughter kim's role in the murder. so had you talked to your daughter about killing your husband? >> you know, she said that i did. i don't really recall that part. >> did you call your daughter to come into the room? >> i don't think so. i don't know why she was there. i know she was screaming, do it, do it, do it. just do it. >> narrator: was she now accusing kim here in court? was she blaming her own daughter somehow? >> for the past 30 years she's telling you i'll do the right thing if it will make you better. i love you that much. and when zero hour came -- >> narrator: she threw you under
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a bus. >> she left me there. >> narrator: so the emotion is what, abandonment? >> sure. >> narrator: you're still that little girl who is trying so hard to make her mom happy. >> that's one of my last pieces of my puzzle i'm working on, abandonment. >> narrator: abandonment is a family issue, apparently. lloyd's first family struggled with it for 27 years until they discovered that he didn't leave them at all. but now as they ached to defend him for the charge they believed was a cruel lie, they could not. not without a trial. had the prosecutor abandoned them now? why was it so important to you to see this go to trial? >> this was my dad. this is the only thing that we could do for him. we felt the truth would come out. it would give him back his reputation. she had taken his life. then she had to take his reputation, too?
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>> narrator: in march 2009, lloyd's kids returned to idaho for judy gough's sentencing hearing. >> we sat through her whole sentencing, and in the ending the judge acknowledged us six kids and judy as victims. never once mentioned my father. >> narrator: does this feel like justice? >> no. it feels like they wanted to get this case over with, that it wasn't important to them. >> narrator: chief deputy roger bourne of the prosecutor's office defended the decision. >> we thought that going through a trial where judy gough gets to take the stand and vilify their father for hours at a time would not be productive for them and would not be productive for the people. the risk, of course, is that a jury could acquit her of that, from our standpoint, that be the worst thing. >> narrator: the sentence for drugging and killing lloyd, for having the kids bury him, dig him up, keep their awful secret?
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ten years in prison. she's there now. has declined our interview requests. and kim? has written a book called "unworthy: what would you do for your mother?" how do you feel about her now? >> i don't feel a whole lot about her now. she's dead to me. and i don't mean that angry and bitter because then i'd be like her. but that's not my mom. my mom left a long time ago. >> narrator: the secret, the deadly secret bound a family almost 30 years. the unraveling tore it apart forever.
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