he said. it wasn't because of my job, it was because of the job that he endangered which was a state highway patrol trooper who i was there to protect. >> you did your job. just like all these other americans are going to continue to do their job. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. we will be back live here in columbus tomorrow night with election results. the rachel maddow show starts right now. rachel, they love you in columbus. i love them back, man. amazing show. amazing show. i'm so glad you're there. hello, columbus. thanks so you at home as well for staying with us for the next hour. there is so much going on. the long running grossout genius performance arts satire radio spectacle that is the "howard stern show" which is now just on satellite radio, they're apparently promoting a singer. i don't know if it's somebody howard stern enjoys or if this is a paid arrangement or something. today, republican presidential

politics in america were briefly taken over by this. >> this is not what you think it is. just calm down. no, it's not what you think it is. just calm down. this is about alisa jordana. this is not about me. this is about alisa jordana. j-o-r-d-a. alisa jordana. the name of one of her songs is [ bleep ]. and "young love" is a good song to listen to. >> benjy, you're on live mike. seriously. >> i won't say the bad word. it's f-u i'm fine. >> he's right. that's in fact the name of the song in question. ♪ i want you out of my sight ♪ i want you out of my sight,

sight, sight ♪ [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> so it's true. we fact checked it. and maybe this all today was just an advertisement for this singer person who is beloved of the "howard stern show." or maybe this is just the greatest long-running grossout genius performance arts satire rid y radio spectacle of my generation, "howard tern show," jealous that another generation is hitting the patented howard stern sweet spot, the overlapping area between horrifying and compelling. okay. here's how this was supposed to go today. at the club here in new york city, known for its comedic roasts of celebrities, a press conference was scheduled today to hear further allegations of sexual harassment concerning herman cain. republican candidate for president. as members of the media, many, many members of the media gathered to hear from the new accuser and from her attorney, gloria allred, a howard stern

sidekick who's named benjy took over the proceedings. >> just listen a second. all right? maybe i'm the girl that was accused by herman cain. okay? you don't know that. you don't even know for sure i'm a male. because i might not be. i'll say who i am. who asked that? who asked who i was? >> who are you? >> my name is benjy bronk. b-r-o-n-k. ♪ now you're interrupted a religious service, my friend. >> that was sort of how it went. as the entire national press corps sat and waited for this herman cain-related press conference to begin. >> oh, i met you at the anthony thing. you, come here. sorry, sorry. i met you at the anthony thing.

wait. yeah. are you from -- i met you. we met. >> we met. when he says i met you at the anthony thing, what he's talking about is the anthony weiner press conference back in june which benjy the howard stern sidekick, he also at the anthony weiner press conference did the same thing. he sort of stern bombed it. the howard stern sidekick guy just sort of took over this press conference today before it even began. >> everyone can have a vote. we're going to sigh first the ayes and neas. who wants me to leave? >> get out. just go. >> who wants me to stay? >> one point it seemed like the press conference was going to start with benjy from the "howard stern show" introducing gloria allred, her attorney and the new herman cain sexual harassment accuser. >> ladies and gentlemen, all the

way from los angeles, california, miss gloria allred. and the accuser. >> that was the announcement. from benjy. according to reporters on the scene, upon hearing that, gloria allred and woman due to speak about the allegations against mr. cain turned around and decided to wait backstage at the club for a few more minutes so they could enter the press conference on their own terms instead of announced by the howard stern guy. the press conference finally did start. the accuser who came forward today was a woman who worked at the national restaurant association educational foundation in the mid 1990s. she said after losing her job at the nra's foundation she met mr. cain in washington to ask him for hep in getting another job. mr. cain made an aggressive and unwanted sexual advance toward her. >> he suddenly reached over and he put his hand on my leg, under my skirt and reached for my

genitals. he also grabbed my head and brought it toward his crotch. i was very, very surprised and very shocked. i said, what are you doing? you know i have a boyfriend. this isn't what i came here for. mr. cain said, you want a job, right? i asked him to stop and he did. >> herman cain campaign responded to this. actually they sort of presponded to this putting out a statement during the press conference which says mr. cain has never harassed anyone. "all allegations of harassment against mr. cain are completely false." there are a number of allegations now. this was either the sixth woman or the seventh woman who alleges she was harassed or who was allegedly harassed, excuse me, by mr. cain. the first two were women employed by the national restaurant association when mr. cain ran the association. both of them after complaining formally to the association were separated from their jobs and given cash settlements of tens of thousands of dollars in exchange for agreeing to not

speak about the incidents in the future. a conservative talk show host in iowa has come forward and said he witnessed inappropriate behavior from mr. cain toward two female members of his radio show staff in iowa. a longtime republican pollster who does work for rick perry has described witnessing very inappropriate behavior from mr. cain toward a woman in a restaurant in the washington, d.c., area, in the late '90s. what's unclear in the counting of the total number of women here is whether that woman seen being mistreated at the restaurant, whether that is the same woman who is also described by the "associated press" as a former national restaurant association employee who says she was harassed by mr. cain bullet never received a settlement as a result of that. all of those allegations proceeded the new one today. which, itself, was, of course, proceeded by the "howard stern show" taking over the entire proceeding. bleep, bleep, bleep you, i'm fine. in addition to the mr. cain has never harassed anyone statement from the herman cain art project today, the herman cain art

project also tweeted a "welcome to the campaign message" to the attorney who's representing the new accuser. the tweet said "welcome to the campaign. what took you so long?" it included a link where people can donate to the herman cain art project in iowa. herman cain art project has been bragging about how much money the sexual harassment allegations have helped them raise. they say they raised $2.8 million total between july and september of this year. that was before the sexual harassment allegations started coming out. once cain supporters learned of all these allegations of herman cain sexually harassing women, the numbers took off. $2.3 million raised in three months before the allegations and raised almost that much since. about $2 million since the allegations have come out. there's an old well-stoked conservative paranoia that any allegation against a conservative candidate has just been made up by a media out to get them. in this case the herman cain performance art project has

brilliantly come up with this satire, brilliantly made that seem as ridiculous as possible. we're not talking about up accusers here or two accusers here or three accusers but six or maybe seven different women, all of whom are apparently part of a liberal media conspiracy? please send your cash, checks or money orders right away. on friday night the artist formally known as herman cain also made fun of the other major scandal afflicting his campaign. the allegations while his campaign manager, the smoking guy, was working for a koch brothers conservative activist group, that group used money from unknown donors to illegally fund mr. cain's campaign. >> this may be a breaking news announcement for the media. i am the koch brothers' brother from another mother. yes. i'm their brother from another mother.

and proud of it. >> that's the response to the scandal, so far. today in washington, another watch dog group has asked the irs to look into the alleged illegal funding of the cain campaign by unknown donors funneling it through a koch brothers-linked organization. again, while his campaign manager was running a state chapter of the koch brothers' conservative activist group americans for prosperity, the group's own financial records show it apparently illegally funding herman cain's campaign, illegally paying for campaign stuff. for things like herman cain going to a koch brothers event in oklahoma and herman cain's campaign manager, the smoking guy, being flown to d.c. to meet with one of the koch brothers and the head of americans for prosperity s. tim phillips has been a guest on this show a couple times before. jack abrahamoff, who went to jail, he is now out of federal prison and promoting his new book about his crimes. among the things that jack

abramoff did in washington is he got guys like tim phillips and ralph reed, remember ralph reed, the christian coalition guy, jack abramoff worked with those guys to dupe conservative voters into supporting the interests of jack abramoff's lobbying clients. so they'd get conservative voters who hated gambling, for instance, to oppose some specific gambling legislation. not because they were going to stamp out gambling by doing that but that would help eliminate the competition for the casinos the guys were working for. ralph reed is supposed to be a christian leader. it couldn't look like he was being paid by the casinos. instead they laundered the money through ralph reed through a conservative activist group to make it look like it was all politics and not just money. the group they laundered the money was the grover norquist tax reform group. if you follow the money, it looks like conservative activism, looks ideological, looks principled. really, it's just what some rich company wants.

and is willing to pay for. tim phillips and ralph reed got christians to write letters in support of keeping the "made in the usa" label on clothes that were being made in the mariana islands, a u.s. commonwealth. clothes being manufactured in near slave labor sweat shop conditions, conditions that included things like forced prostitution and forced abortions among the destitute workers who were there. how did they get christians, how did they get values voters? conservative christian americans to write letters supporting that? they mailed those christians materials that said the workers in the mariana islands were being exposed to the teachings of jesus while they were working there. that was the jack abramoff scam, right? that's tim phillips. who now runs the koch brothers group,prosperity. ralph reed runs the faith and freedom coalition. all the republican candidates except jon huntsman went to the ralph reed faith and freedom coalition event in iowa last month. this was the podium.

there's ralph reed. remember, now, he was abramoff's guy, right? there's his logo. faith and freedom coalition you see there. what's that other logo behind him? the iowa energy forum. hold on a second. quick google search reveals the iowa energy forum is a project of the american petroleum institute. that's what these guys do. that's who these guys are. that's the values voter summit of ralph reed. brought to you by big oil. ralph reed and tim phillips did not go to prison like jack abramoff but they were part of the scam to get conservative voters to do something they thought was ideologically sound, at least ideologically motivated, right wing activism. it was really what some big corporate funder wanted and was willing to pay for. iowa energy forum. oh, yeah, and faith, too. that's what jack abramoff did before he went to prison, what ralph reed is doing now, still. now there's the herman cain art

project. a charismatic purportedly very conservative purported candidate who does not know letting a woman decide if she wants to have an abortion or not is not allowed if you're pro life. a candidate who's never heard of neoconservative, who answered this way when asked just this weekend about medicare. >> you go first, newt. >> that's only fair. >> herman cain art project. which seems to be a conservative cause. which is attracting lots of conservative support. is something that has no campaign staff. right, no substantial staff of its own. it appears to be bankrolled, possibly illegally, by the billionaire owners of the largest privately held oil and chemical country in the country. whose political group, americans for prosperity, is run by a former associate of jack abramoff. hey, conservative voters, i know that you're not my biggest fans, although i know some of you

watch because i can tell from the hate mail. listen, just, this is meant as advice and i mean it in a big hearted way. i mean it in a legitimate way. i'm a liberal. i would love for herman cain to be the republican party's nominee for president this year. part of me tells me i should shut up, right? as an american, if i'm speaking to you as a conservative voter, i want you to know, these guys are pros. if you're one of those people who wrote a letter saying you wanted the mariana island workers to get "made in the usa" labels because that's what jesus would have wanted since they're getting exposed to the teachings of jesus. according to our own government's investigation, those people are subject to forced prostitutions and abortions and you were duped because ralph reed got your address as a values voter. consider this about the herman cain campaign. these guys are done it before. they know what they are doing. they now appear to be

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let our financial professionals help you reach your goals. john kasich, the republican governor of the great state of ohio, is disliked by the people who live in his state. broadly speaking. the people of ohio say today if they could redo the election in which they elected john kasich, they would pick the other guy by 18 points. in fact, the polling saying john kasich has the worst approval

rating of any governor in the country, at least of almost any governor in the country. polling this year for kasich has been putting him at first, second or third place, depending on the poll or depending on the timing in the bum me out sweepstakes competition for most disliked governor in america. ohio may have picked this guy just last year, but they really wish they hadn't picked him. they really don't like him now. if you're running a political campaign of any kind in ohio, do you make the face of that campaign john kasich? really? mr. buyers remorse? mr. 33% approval rating? apparently you do. the campaign to keep governor kasich's law stripping union rights, to stop it from being repealed, features john kasich personally at every turn. this is going to be voted on in ohio tomorrow. kasich and the republicans and out of state conservative groups dumping money into ohio right now to help kasich, they want ohioans to vote tomorrow to keep the law stripping union rights. they want people to vote yes on issue 2 to keep the law. their campaign is not working.

mr. unpopular's signature policy turns out is very unpopular. this is the polling on the repeal effort over time for john kasich's union stripping bill. this is how public policy polling, as you can see there, as polled on it over time. this is between 50% and 60% there. people who want to repeal john kasich's union stripping law. here's how it looks in the quinnipiac polling. again, the repeal kasich's anti-union rights law side appears to be doing well and doing better over time. heading into tomorrow's voting. so now at the end, alongside the tide of outside money from every conservative group you've ever heard from and some you haven't, the conservative groups are switching up their republican celebrity spokespeople. turns out ohioans don't like john kasich. how about sarah palin? governor palin lending her celebrity endorsement to the anti-union rights side in ohio. also pat boone. pat boone. don't like john kasich or sarah

palin, do you like pat boone? he's against union rights in ohio as well. they have pat boone doing robo calls now. there's fox news personality, former arkansas governor, mike huckabee, not only against union rights in ohio but has advice for ohioans who are against them, too. >> make a list of ten family members, ten friends, ten neighbors, ten folks you work with or have worked with in the past. and call them and ask them, are you going to vote on issue 2 and are you going to vote for it? if they say no, well, you just make sure that they don't go vote. let the air out of their tires on election day. tell them the election has been moved to a different date. that's up to you. how you creatively get the job done. >> tell them the election is moved to a different date, let the air out of their tires. it's up to you how you keep them from voting. joining us is connie schultz, pulitzer prize winning syndicated columnist for creators syndicate. she wrote about mike huckabee's

advice for ohio voters recently. she's a former longtime columnist for the "plain dealer." welcome back to the show. >> thank you, rachel. you know how they say you start looking like the man you're married to, i'm going to start sounding like him. >> we should say you're married to u.s. senator sherrod brown of ohio. is have you lost your voice because you have a cold or hollering on the issue? >> according to my kids, i've been hollering on this issue a lot. >> how do you think mike huckabee, with his advice, and sarah palin and pat boone and all these other republican celebrities being brought into this thing, how do you think their advice is going to go over with ohio voters? what do you think is going to happen? >> i think what it's proving is the arrogance is unmitigated apparently on their side. huckabee particularly. when he brought his lounge act to ohio, i couldn't help but think this. i'm a liberal. so are you. we never, ever discourage anyone from voting. we want everyone to participate. you and i, women went to prison and were force fed until they vomited so you and i could have the right to vote, rachel.

congressman john lewis, one of the gentlest, bravest men i know, had his head slashed open when he was marching for black americans' rights to vote. we don't find that particularly humorous when outsiders like mike huckabee come into the state. he can say whatever he wants. issue 2 is going to do down. my concern right now on this monday night is that ohio voters who oppose issue 2 haven't voted yet, do not get overconfident. i want them so show up at the polls tomorrow. we want everyone to participate. >> we've seen some, i guess, consternation among strategists who are on the no on issue 2 side of it, who want this union stripping bill repealed saying the polling doesn't necessarily reflect exactly what's going to happen, they're worried people are going to relax act this and think they don't turn out to the polls. do you think people are overconfident on the side of issue 2 that you're on? >> i guess what i would say is,

there's always that concern because we can't take anything for granted. i have never seen this level -- i'm born and raised in ohio and i'm 54 years old. daughter of a factory worker, union organizer, himself. i have never seen this level of participation on the part of volunteers. i was at the cleveland teachers union call center last night. their goal for the whole campaign was 200,000 calls. they had already made more than 509,000 calls as of last night. >> wow. you have written recently all eyes are on ohio this week. that what happens in ohio tomorrow is going to tell us a lot about the 2012 election, not just in ohio but about the 2012 election. why do you expect the results to resonate on a national scale? >> first of all, everyone is watching ohio. as ohio goes, so goes the nation. i don't think anyone outside ohio fully understood the ground swell here in ohio. john kasich has been the best community organizer in the state

for democrats, but it's not just democrats who have decided they're voting no. i mean, we've seen so many republicans come out against this. we're seeing a lot of independent voters. in my own neighborhood, yards that have mccain signs in 2008 have vote no on issue 2 signs. everybody knows a schoolteacher or a police officer or a firefighter or a nurse. for me, this is personal. i have a -- my sister, toni, is a public school teacher. my sister, leslie, is a nurse. the man who came earlier this week, or last week to our home to install our new microwave had a son who's a firefighter. he said he has never seen his son participate in a grassroots effort like he has with this one. he's going door to door. this is what kasich and the republicans did not anticipate is when you go after public workers, you're going after family members of tens of thousands of ohioans. >> well, why do you think they made it such a priority? last year we saw republicans

take over in ohio and wisconsin and michigan and other places, too, but we really watched these new republican governors and legislators make it a huge priority to take away union rights when it was predictable it was going to cost them. why has it been so unimportant to them? >> they got drunk with power quite frankly. both houses went to the republicans. the governor's race went to the republic republicans. they ran on jobs. they weren't able to create the jobs they promised. it was a little surprising how quickly they did this one to be honest with you. when you go after the rights of workers to collectively bargain for wages, benefits and job conditions, you are suddenly not just going after unions. you're going after the promise of america. and it was so interesting to watch people who thought they didn't care at all about unions suddenly realize they care very deeply about the rights that unions brought to workers in this country. this has been an incredible ground swell movement of support for unions and what unions stand

for. >> connie schultz, pulitzer prize winning syndicated columnist. it's always great to see you. on the eve of this vote, really all eyes are on ohio. you've helped explain it to a lot of people. thank you. >> thank you, rachel. >> i will mention again in interest of full disclosure that connie's husband is u.s. senator sherrod brown. it's weird to talk about who anybody is married to, but it's relevant. debunktion junction is coming up. tonight is involves j. edgar hoover and lice and what's considered a weapon. that's still to come. plus episcopal minister gene robinson is here for the interview. but if things get out of hand, there's no shame in calling us. ♪call 1-800-steemer. but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't treat that. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ deep breath] awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is. that's the cold truth!

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a year ago, election night 2010, this was the good news that night for democrats. john hikenlooper, the democrat, became governor of colorado

after a hard fought race including the candidate tancredo and republican dan maze, best remembered as the guy who said he was a secret agent but wasn't. manchin won the seat held by robert byrd, beating john raese, a guy who said in an interview, i made my money the old-fashioned way, i inherited it. he wasn't kidding. republicans picked sharron angle to run for senate in nevada. sharron angle said conservative the would turn to second amendment remedies if they didn't get their way at the polls. she lost. harry reid held on to his senate seat though the polls looked like trouble for him heading into that day. in connecticut, linda mcmahon had pro wrestling dynasty name recognition and ton of money going into her campaign for chris dodd's senate seat. in the end, democrat richard blumenthal beat linda mcmahon by more than ten points. democrat mark dayton became governor of minnesota, succeeding a republican you

might have heard of named tim pawlenty? no? not ringing any bells? democrat michael bennett won the colorado senate race against conservative republican ken buck. bennett won in part by making sure coloradans knew how radical mr. buck's positions were, particularly on social issues. actually asking buck in a debate who he wanted to two to jail if he succeeded in making abortion illegal without exceptions, which was his policy position. so a year ago, on election night 2010, the -- i'm not sure i left anybody big out. that was the entire universe of good news stories that night for democrats. other than those stories, election night a year ago was a really bad night for democrats. it was a red, red night, a red, red year. delightful if you are a republican, but a bummer of a night for democrats pretty much. that was a year ago, 2010. now it has been a year. tomorrow it is election day again. it's off year election day. still there's a lot going on. mississippi voters are going to be deciding tomorrow on an

amendment to their state's constitution. an amendment that would define a fertilized egg as a person. this would ban all abortion, no exceptions. it would also ban the most popular forms of birth control and some types of fertility treatment and it could turn a miscarriage into cause for a criminal investigation. not to weird you out, but frankly a heavy period could be a cause for a state criminal investigation. what if there was a fertilized egg in there? that's a person. colorado's the only other state where this sort of personhood amendment has been voted on before. colorado voted on this twice in 2008 and 2010. ahead of the vote the first time in 2008, 68% of coloradans told pollsters that they opposed it. when it came time to vote, more than that actually voted no. 68% had said they were opposed. the no vote was 73% against in colorado that year. two years later, the percentage of coloradans who told pollsters they opposed this thing was 56%.

and another poll, the percentage of people who told pollsters they were against it was 62%. again, when it came time to vote, more people actually voted against it than had told pollsters that they would. the actual no vote in 2010 was 71%. which was higher than the opposition had ever turned up in the pollings. in the polling. so both times this has been voted on before, both times in colorado. not only did this, the fertilized egg is a person thing lose and lose badly, but the no vote ended up being higher on election day than it was predicted to be in the polling. tomorrow voters in mississippi will vote on the same sort of amendment that they voted on in colorado. in mississippi the voting is pretty much tied up. this is the latest from public policy polling. it shows 45% of mississippians support the personhood amendment. 44% say they oppose it. it's well within the margin of error, right? the same thing is true in mississippi as it was in colorado. if voters are understating their opposition, then this personhood

ban on abortion and hormonal birth control may fail tomorrow in mississippi which will shock everybody. mississippi voters will also decide tomorrow on whether or not to amend their constitution to say you cannot vote anymore in the state of mississippi unless you show documentation you have never had to show before. the polling on that voter i.d. issue looks pretty lopsided headed into election day. 64% of mississippians saying they would vote for that in the latest polling. in maine, they're going to be voting on voting tomorrow. the republican-led legislature and the republican governor in maine got rid of a decades-old policy in maine where you could register to vote on election day. they got rid of that law. tomorrow mainers will get a chance to reinstate the old law which republicans took away. support for going back to same-day registration for repealing the republican bill that took it away is up in the latest polling. about 55% to 38%. also tomorrow, there will be legislative races in virginia that could conceivably flip

control of the state senate in virginia from democrats to republicans. there will also be a special election in iowa that could change control of iowa's state senate. right now it is democratic controlled. it could after tomorrow be an even split depending on how that race goes. and the latest polling in massachusetts from public policy polling also shows that republicans there could take control of the statehouse. statehouse in mississippi now controlled by democrats, but that is at stake tomorrow. so again, a year ago, election night 2010, it was a really bad night for democrats. and now on this 2011 off year election eve, we are halfway between that last election, between that deep red of 2010, halfway between that and the next big election which of course is november 2012. plan to be with us here tomorrow night on msnbc for election returns as they come in from all over the country. [ man ] i got this citi thank you card

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and how did you celebrate bank transfer day this past weekend? in denver, more than 1,000 people marched from big bank to big bank to encourage people to move their money to credit unions and to community-based banks. saturday's march came after a reported 14,000 colorado residents already opened new accounts with credit unions, totaling $100 million in new

deposits. on long island, one local credit union reporting it opened 1,471 new checking accounts last week. compared with fewer than 400 for the same week last year. half of the new accounts were opened on saturday, alone. on bank transfer day, alone. in washington, d.c., the national capital bank, which is a two-branch community bank says the vast majority of its new account openings in recent weeks have been by fed up bank of america customers. and in new york city, home of wall street, and those who would occupy it, the lower east side people's federal credit union says it's enjoying more than 55 new account openings a week, up from its average of about ten new accounts per week before all of this started happening. the association that represents credit unions conducted a survey of 5,000 credit unions across the country prior to bank transfer day. they found according to estimates, 650,000 consumers across the nation have joined

credit unions since the 29th. bank of america got very angry at them who were not otherwise angry at them for lots of good reasons. also during that time, credit unions added $4.5 billion in new savings accounts. credit union associations say they'll be conducting more surveys to see how many more people and how much money transferred on bank transfer day, alone. whatever that number is, it will be on top of the 4.5 billion bucks they say transferred ahead of saturday. occupy wall street still showing no signs of slowing down. the group using donations to run advertisements on tv. explaining in their own words why they're protesting. >> i want economic justice. >> i want to be able to speak my voice without jeopardizing my job. >> i want a greater regulation of the banks and the markets. >> i want my kids to have a job and health care. >> i want true democracy for the 99% of us who don't have it anymore. >> that ad will be running thanks to donations on bloomberg

business tv, on espn, on history international, on cbs sports, on the gayle king show, on "grays anatomy," on friends outdoor channel and fox news. today a march, an 11-mile march from the northern tip of manhattan, washington heights, down to zuccotti park. on the southern tip of manhattan on wall street, marchers called the march today the end to end for the 99%. joining us now for the interview is someone who was at that march today. bishop gene robinson of the episcopal diocese of new hampshire, senior fellow for center of american progress. he's been down at zuccotti park. thank you so much for being here. >> i'm delighted to be here, rachel. thank you. >> in your role as, in your role as a bishop, why are you supporting this movement? why do you see it as important? >> part of what a bishop does is look for god. look for god at work in the world. and i think i saw god at work in zuccotti park.

it's astounding to me that the feeling i come away with down on wall street is this grieving over the loss of community that i think this represents. it seems to be about the dollars and the figures are terrible, you know, how the wealth has become so concentrated in so few. but the emotional content of it to me seems like people are mourning the fact that we've become a society that is every man, woman and child for themselves. and not a society in which we actually do care for one another as a community. >> i am struck by the fact that the sentiments being voiced by an attributed to the 99% movement and the occupy wall street movement are not widely held and sympathized, they have been widely held and sympathized for a long time.

something has happened. ts it was a fete of organizing but caused people to not just believe that but physically put themselves to show they belief th believe that. is demonstrating with your physical presence to the rest of the world? >> last week i went down to the occupy new hampshire movement in manchester and had to go to the western side. i drove by lake sunapie. is answering something

important, if you're saying a sort of turning out to resonate with people's, both grieving but also filling a need for people, does that mean you think it is it should be expected? >> i do think it has legs. this cry for help i think we hear, it remains to be seen whether it's the birth pangs of something new and creative and positive or whether it will just filter away. and i think that's why -- this start conversations around living rooms and cocktail parties around the country, have we lost our way as a nation? what ever happened to each of us?

the testament, micah and jeremiah and isaiah. said very difficult things to those who are in power. and the nation of israel was saved because some of those in power listedened. i think there are a lot of us sort of in the middle of this country who need to go to talk to these people. just ask them, there's no reason to be fearful. it's one of the most peaceful kingdoms i've been a part of in a long time. people handing out clothing to

those who have need of it and food and i sat in the middle of a think tank talking about whether the community that had formed in zuccotti park was a microcosm of the larger society or not. and how to make the connections between those two. we have to become reconnected to one another. and that my wellbeing is dependent on your wellbeing. i don't want to live in a country where it's every man, woman and child for themselves. that's a an awful existence and i think the cries of pain we hear from this movement are the cries from the loss of that kind of community. >> reporting last week on the vatican statement on the robinhood task, talking to you about the movements of this feeling. i feel like i'm talking about religion way more than i usually do in politics. talking about it, because we're having a morality based discussion about economics.

>> i think that's exactly right. we ought to look forward to that. because we all know there's something wrong. >> yeah. bishop gene robinson of the e mi. miss to pal society of new hampshire. >> debunktion junction coming up next. hey, everyone's eating tacos outside bill's office. [ chuckles ] you think that is some information i would have liked to know? i like tacos. you invited eric? i thought eric gave you the creeps. [ phone buzzes ] oh. [ chuckles ] yeah. hey. [ male announcer ] don't be left behind. get it faster with 4g. at&t. ♪

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s debunktion junction, what's my function? okay. true or false. according to the u.s. government, certain kinds of toilets are considered weapons? toilets, weapons. is that true or false? true. chemical toilets basically the kind atoilets you find on airplanes all over the world. chemical toilets on the united

states official munitions list which means their sale, exprt to other countries is restricted by law. chemical toilets are alongside things like flame flowers and lasers and tanks. the state department is looking to change the classification of chemical toilets proposing toilets be taken off the munitions list, leading to this toilets no longer a threat headline in the "washington post" today. i'm here to tell you, until the state department proposal goes through which might take a month or so, basically these toilets do remain in our nation's arsenal of controlled weapons. which makes it feel very dirty to say the word arsenal. and the word do. next up, true or false. legendary fbi director j. edgar hoover, subject to the new le movie. so freaked out that an "l.a. times" reporter was going to -- j. edgar hoover called the ro

reporter a lice covered ferret. revealing the results of a freedom of information act request for the fbi on their late pulitzer prize winning reporter. told hoover nelson was out to get him, led hoover to sick his fbi agents on him to find out what the reporter had on hoover and the fbi. according to the "times" the fbi agents heard from some other reporter that what nelson was going to report is that j. edgar hoover was gay. nelson denied he was going to report that, but hoover became obsessed with nelson, scrawling on memos about him, quote, nelson is a mental case, nelson is a rat, nelson is a jackal, and nelson, yes, is a lice covered ferret. a lice covered ferret. incidentally, while we are debunking this here, ferrets do not get lice. according to the american ferret association, ferrets can get