why we have such a hard time accepting that an event so simple, banal, horribleç actuay happened. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. thanksgiving's just two days away. are republicans going to be the turkeys of this holiday season? tonight, leading, fighting for the middle class. president obama in new hampshire today fighting to get americans back to work and more money in everybody's pockets. willard's got nothing on president obama, so now he's just making stuff up. plus, you won't believe how some conservatives are defending the pepper spray police in california. and rush limbaugh goes after the first lady. i'm going to respond, you better

believe it. the nascar crowd doesn't quite understand why when the husband and the wife are going to the same place the first lady has to take her own boeing 757. they understand it's a little bit of uptyism. >> welcome to "politics nation." i'm al sharptonon. tonight's lead. president obama in new hampshire today showing he's the warrior for the middle class. >> supposed to be a big compassionate country where everybody who works hard should have a chance to get ahead, not just the person who owns the factory but the men and women who work on factory floor. >> and the president made it clear just who is to blame for protecting the very rich at the expense of everyone else by blocking his jobs bill. >> when this bill came up forç vote, republicans in the senate got together and blocked it. they refused to even debate it.

100% of republicans opposed it. what we've done is we've refused to quit, so i said i will do everything in my power to act on behalf of the american people with or without congress. >> the president's giving them another chance to prove they are not turkeys with a vote to extend the payroll tax cuts for the middle class. >> in the spirit of thanksgiving we are going to give them another chance. congress has a very simple choice next week. do you want to cut taxes for the middle class and those who are trying to get into the middle class, or do you want to protect massive tax breaks for millionaires and billion airs, many of whom want to actually help? a $1,500 tax cut for middle class family, that isn't a band-aid, that's a big deal for people. >> joining me now is

congresswoman john schakowsky, democrat from illinois. she's also a member. progressive caucus, and ed rendell, former dnc chairman and current nbc news political analyst. congresswoman, republicans love tax cuts, so they are going to extend the payroll tax cuts, right? i mean, am i missing something? >> isn't it remarkable how they seem reluctant when it comes to lowering taxes for the middle class, that they have some reservations, but i'm telling you. this is the barack obama that is the fighter. he is out there, and i dare them. i really do. i dare them to say no to extending those tax cuts. actually expanding the tax cuts, and you're right. $1,500 may not be a big dealç the 1% that the republicans are the guard dogs for, but it sure means a lot to ordinary americans, and it will mean a lot to our economy. >> now governor rendell, $1,500

means a lot to people that need money, especially now in this economy, and even 58%, look at this poll, 58% of republicans support the extension of payroll tax cuts. >> sure. >> but interestingly enough willard "mitt" romney can't seem to take a stand here. let me show you him being questioned about this. this is willard. >> if the payroll tax cut is not extended, that would mean a tax increase for all americans. what would be the consequences of that? >> what it takes to create jobs is more than just a -- a temporary shift in a tax stimulus. >> so you would be okay with seeing the payroll tax cut -- >> i don't like temporary little band-aids. >> temporary little band-aids, i don't understand, governor rendell. maybe you can break that down from willardese to me and explain to me whether he's for it or against it. >> well, it sounds like he's

against it which is phenomenal. $1,500 is a lot of money, as you and the congresswoman have said, for middle class families, especially now, but when you multiply it by all of the americans who are gth going to get it, it's literally hundreds of billions of dollars. that's not a temporary band-aid. that money goes right into the economy and it gets spent. but the reason that the republicans are saying that they are against extending the payroll tax cut and expanding it, al, is because it's not paid for. well, help me out here. when president bush gave a huge tax cut to the top 2% inç this country, was that paid for, i don't think so? >> no. in fact, we're still trying to cover that. >> recover from that. >> congresswoman, a band-aid? >> well, you know, of course it's not a band-aid, and the other thing, it's very simple. if they want to pay for it, then we can take a bit from the millionaires and billion airs. >> absolutely.

>> that is unthinkable to them. you know, they -- they get all excited and they are vows, and then that's the kind of grover norquist tax increase that they don't like, but a tax cut for middle class people. that's really a tax increase for middle class people, that seems to be all right with them. >> al, i have a suggestion to follow up with what the congresswoman said. let's get grover norquist on the show because he says they are not allowed ever, to sign the no tax pledge, to sign for a tax increase. well, if they don't renew this payroll deduction tax cut, they will be increasing taxes -- >> they will be violating their pledge. >> get grover on the tube to tell them they can't do it. >> grover, i want you to come on. you've got to enforce your pledge, mr. norquist. >> right. and he owns -- >> can't let them kick you to the curb now when it comes to regular people. >> absolutely. >> i think the governor makes a good point. >> congresswoman somewhat causeky, the president has been taking them on.

he's in a fighting mood, and he's been really, really taking it to them. are the republicans blinking? you know, they better start blinking, because the american people are on the side of creating jobs. they are on the side of saving the middle class and protecting the american dream and protecting social security and medicare. the republicans are not just on the wrong side of history, but they are bucking the -- the vast majority of opinion. i'm talking not just about democrats but republicans and independents. >> sure. >> who believe that job creation is number one. >> now, governor, let me show you this that just came out. the congressional budget office says because of president obama's 2009 stimulus package, there were 3.3 million more full-time jobs in the third quarter than there would have been otherwise. >> absolutely. >> up to 3.3 million, up to 3.3

million. now the reason it's important is everyone is talking about that the stimulus didn't work. if we've had up to 3.3 million, this is the cbo saying this, how can you say that the stimulus didn't work. >> well, everyone, al, knows the stimulus did work. it preserved jobs, and it created jobs. the infrastructure we should have frankly had more infrastructure in it, but that worked like a charm, absolutely like a charm. it helped america dramatically. the cbo said earlier unemployment could have been as high as 1% or 2% more without the stimulus, but we let, and i blame all of us, the democrats, we let the republicans spin the stimulus in that first week and give it such a bad name that nobody listens to the facts, but the facts are the stimulus worked and it can work again if the congress passed the second jobs bill. >> the progressive caucus has been fighting for more

infrastructure, congresswoman. we, again, lost the spend but it did create jobs. have we learned; and will we not back up this time? >> here's the proof, al, that it really did create jobs. we couldç collect all of the videos and the photo opportunities of those republicans pushing ahead to grab the scissors to cut the ribbon at all of the projects that created jobs all over their districts. they know it created jobs. it's total hypocrisy for them to say they didn't. you're right. we need to move ahead with more real job creation. we can do that. that's what the public sector ought to do right now, and that generates lots of jobs in the private sector when we do spend that money. >> congresswoman jan schakowsky and ed rendell, thank you for your time. >> al, don't forget to call grover. >> grover norquist has a special engraved invitation coming. he must protect the pledge to

cut no taxes. coming up, willard sinks to a new low with a misleading ad attacking the president. this guy will rite lalli do anything to become president, even lie. plus, mr. hot air rush limbaugh attacks michelle obama, the first lady, again, saying she's guilty of uppityism, get ready for my response, rush, and fox news weighs in on the video shocking the nation. you really want to hear this and you won't believe it when you do. what their anchors say about this officer. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. ♪ ♪ let's go ♪

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a lot of people have been talking about how rush limbaugh spoke this week about first lady michelle obama. here's what he said? >> the nascar crowd doesn't quite understand why when the husband and a wife are going to the same place the first lady has to take her own boeing 757 with family and kids and hangers-on four hours earlier than her husband who will be on his 747. nascar people understand that's a little bit of a waste. they understand it's a little bit of uppityism. >> uppityism. that's why some in the nascar crowd booed the first lady and mrs. biden, according to rush. well, first of all, many cheered, but second of all, uppityism clearly refers to people that don't stay in their place. it was always used as a term for

blacks. is it racist, yes, unequivocally? it's a racist use of term. it's something that people should stay in their place. i guess mrs. obama didn't stay in her place when she went to princeton and she didn't stay in her place when she became a lawyer and she didn't stay in her place when she went on to become a senator's wife and now she's the first lady. and don't dare fly as the first lady. you don't know your place because, rush, places have changed in america. but we're not going to get distracted by you, rush. we're not going to let us get off of focus here because the problem is that you have as little respect forç those nasc people as you do the first lady because you don't advocate an extension of the payroll tax for them. you don't want them to have the same rights that the 1% have. you don't want them to have health care coverage so don't try to divide them from those

that want to have one level playing field in america by playing the race card. we won't bite the bait. not now. we have a country to save. we'll take care of you later, rush, and i really do understand your problem because when you're playing gutter politics and you lay in the gutter politics, anyone on the high road looks up to you, rush. it's really the vantage point of how you look at things. happy thanksgiving, rush. that you need ♪ ♪ come at just the right speed, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ medicine that can't wait legal briefs there by eight, ♪ ♪ that's logistics. ♪ ♪ freight for you, box for me box that keeps you healthy, ♪ ♪ that's logistics. ♪ ♪ saving time, cutting stress, when you use ups ♪ ♪ that's logistics. ♪

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we already gave him an award for a best misleading man once, but it seems like willard is trying for a second trove we this new ad. >> thank you, new hampshire. how is everybody doing today? i am confident that we can steer ourselves out of this crisis. >> we need a rescue plan for the middle class. >> we need it provide relief for homeowners. it's going to take a new direction. if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose. >> the ad makes it seem like president obama said he'd lose if he kept talking about the economy, but let's take a look at what he actually said. >> senator mccain's campaign actually said, and i quote, if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose. >> he was quoting john mccain during the 2008 election. romney took that clip totally

out of context, and it's not his only whopper of the day. he also took out a full-page ad in some new hampshire newspapers today repeating another bogus claim saying, quote, it is not america's laziness that is the problem, as you recently suggested. end ofç quote. i guess you missed, it willard, but the "washington post" already fact-checked this and gave it four pinocchios saying, quote, ripped obama's remarks completely out of context. wonder why willard keeps playing fast and loose with the truth. >> i'm running for office, for pete sake. >> joining me now is msnbc political analyst richard wolffe and matt advisor a political reporter for the "boston globe." he's been covering mitt romney all year. thanks for both of you for being with me tonight.

>> thanks, reverend. thanks for having me. >> richard, why does mitt romney keep lying? does he think we won't notice, or is there some strategy to this? >> well, you've got to look at what this ad was and where it was played. 140,000 buy in new hampshire which is his strongest state by far kind of leads to some question. he's playing the cable media, for sure, but he's also kind of desperate here. this is not a -- an ad you make as a sign of strength, and the problem for romney is that his numbers just aren't strong enough. as long as this is a referendum, this primary season is a referendum about mitt romney, he's never going to break 25 point. he has to shift this to attacking the president and move to a general election strategy, so he's overreaching here because that's his only path to convincing those very skeptical conservatives that he's really one of them. >> now, matt, is that the strategy that you feel that the romney camp has adopted, that

just say for their base and try to get the extreme side of that party energized evenç at the ct of being truthful? >> i think in part, yeah, they are trying to riley up the base and get republicans excited about his campaign in a way that some in the party have not been, and i agree with richard, too, that they are really focusing on a general election strategy. this was his first ad of the campaign to air on television, and it was focused solely on the president, and in new hampshire a state that romney feels like he can make competitive for a general election, even though it hat only four electoral votes, if this is really close, new hampshire may end up mattering. >> now, richard, the romney campaign in fairness did release an explanation, if you want to call it that, saying that they defended this misleading tv ad by saying we used that quote intentionally to show that president obama's doing exactly

what he criticized mccain of doing four years ago. obama doesn't want to talk about the economy because of his failed record. i guess they forgot to put in the ad that they were referring to mccain and obama four years ago. i guess we just were supposed to know that, but aside from that, richard, i want to show you something. think progress put together an impressive video today on mitt romney, willard in his own words. >> we should just raise everybody's taxes. >> there's nothing unique about the united states. >> government knows better than a free people how to guide an economy. >> let us just raise your taxes some more, we need a little bit more. >> america is just another nation with a flag. >> that's very impressive, willard, on high rotation there, richard. >> you know. they were just trying to make a point and show what context was all about. look, aç lie is a lie.

we can usually use out of context technical words for it, but it's a lie, and, again, you might expect this from rick perry struggling in the polls. why would mitt romney try -- why does he think it's a good thing? maybe a good tactic and gets us talking about it, but this man's play is for independent voters. they don't like this kind of stuff. it's not authentic or honest, and it's kind of hyperpartisan really so why take the low rode to taking the general election? first of all, he's got to win the prescriberies fir. he's way off target if he thinks beating obama over the head with a deceptive ad is going to get him there, and i think it undermines his brand and appeal to the middle. >> now, matt, i read and put on this show your story about how the governor of massachusetts at that time, willard, when he left office, he -- his staff got back their hard drive and their laptop computers and all and

really raised the point that no one in the past, no other governors that we could find, you could find, your paper could find, had ever done that, and mr. romney's people admitted it. look at the sound that -- listen to the sound they come out explaining why they did this. >> there has never been an administration that has provided to the opposition research team or to the public electronic communications, so ours would have been the first administration to have done so. >> now, was he already planning to run for president when he was governor? opposition research, so you >> yeah. i mean, i think it was never a

secret that romney was preparing to run for president towards the tail end of his governorship. he basically left the governor's office and immediately started his presidential campaign, so i think in essence the statements that he was making i think to an editorial board there is a concession of that, i mean, that they were preparing and doing everything methodically that they could to prepare for that run, including purchasing hard drives with 11 of his aides purchasing 17 hard drives as -- as they were leaving office, and as he was leaving office. >> now, richard, do you think that this kind of story can stick to romney? does this become a story that goes with him on what is it that you're hiding? why are you so concern, particularly since he has this flip-flop image? >> yeah. >> are you so concerned that you would take the hard drives with you so we don't even know all of the flip-flopping you may be doing, even though it's obvious we know a lot.

>> i think honesty is the real issue here. it's a bit too technical. people don't really care about the records and you should care and archives do care and there's laws to protect that, but i don't think the voters will make decisions on that. a lot more information on mitt romney, looking what he said on a whole range of subjects, either side of them and back again. you know, consistency, honesty, authenticity are the key values here, and john kerry really got caught up by one flip-flop. here you've got mitt romney with dozens of them.ç that's what will play out here and the records i think will be a side issue. >> richard wolffe and matt viser, thanks for coming on the show tonight. >> thanks, reverend. >> still ahead, do republicans care that newt wants to tear up child labor laws? apparently not, he's number one in yet another new poll. but first, a case study in what happens when unpopular

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there's no shortage of hypocrisy in the republican party, but florida governor rick scott really is the poster child for saying one thing an doing another. in less than a year in office scott's pulled off all of the gp's worst moves, signing a law

that claims to prevent voter fraud but actually makes it harder to vote, check. running on a jobs platform and turning down the federal money that would have created jobs, check. pushing a law that could have made him money, check. i'm almost surprised this guy isn't the republican nominee for president, but joining me now is joy ann reid, managing editor of thegrio.com and msnbc contributor. she writes today that scott could have a major impact in the 2012 election. thanks so much for joining me. in your piece today, you talk about how florida is part of a new redistricting area, you said his law could hurt minority voters and democrats.

i'm quoting the çarticle. scott signed one of the most restrictive voter laws in the u.s., reducing the early voting period from 14 days to 8, which expected to affect black voters and churches, by taking the sunday before election day off the calendar, imposing new tough restrictions and penalties on organizations that register people to vote and forcing anyone who has to change their voter registration information on election day to cast a provisional ballot. >> right. >> i'm quoting your article, right? >> right. >> how will that law impact the 2012 election? >> well, it's very interesting. as usual, florida is very important to both the republican and the democrat that will be running obviously for president. for barack obama he did obviously win it in twag, but what rick scott has essentially done he's taken the advantages from democrats got from redistricting, they can't gerry manneder based on politics, they need to be based on geography.

he took that advantage and trumped it in a way. the law rick scott signed, number one, much harder to register people to vote. you have only two days to turn in the registration. if you turn in three days late, you face huge penalties so people like the league of women voters. >> two days. >> two days from the day you register them. >> exactly. >> used to be ten days. >> so if you figure if you're registering voters way out in some rural area. >> right. >> or registering urban voters and registering lots and lots of people you have two days to get those turned around or face fines. that's led groups like the league of women voters to stop doing voter registration which hurts women of minorities. >> i've worked in florida with congresswoman fred fika wilson, by limiting the sunday beforen 1 >> exactly. >> and these people lead their congregations to vote after. he significantly impacts the black vote there. >> absolutely, and as you know, we both know bishop curry sold

to the polls as a staple of the african-american vote. >> exactly. >> and african-americans in florida vote disproportionately during the early vote. the vote happens before election day. where blacks tend to go less on election day so by cutting the early voting period from 14 days down to 18 days, you literally cut right into the african-american vote and by taking away the sunday before election day, that's usually the largest day. >> now he also did something i think equally bad. he rejected federal money for a rail project. >> right. >> that would have brought the rail into florida. >> right. >> and it would have brought a lot of jobs. how on the one hand do you talk about wanting to provide jobs. >> right. >> and then you turn down federal money that would have provided jobs for not just the black community but everybody. >> the estimated 24,000 jobs that would have come from high speed rail, right through the i-4 corridor, tampa to orlando,

where the main votes of both parties r.he angered republicans and democrats. talking about a ten-year project. he threw it away and this is a guy, if you like herman cain's 9-9-9, rick scott had it first, 7-7-7, seven plans, seven years, 700,000 jobs. threw 24,000 jobs away with high speed rail. republicans and democrats are mad at him. >> well, you need to read thegrio.com. a lot more there. joy-ann reid, thank you for your time, and governor scott, iç didn't forget. we gotcha. like a ramen noodle- every-night budget. she thought allstate car insurance was out of her reach. until she heard about the value plan. shop less. get more. make one call to an allstate agent. or creates another laptop bag, or hires another employee, it's not just good for business. it's good for the entire community.

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america, this is who the republicans want leading america to a bright and prosperous future. >> go get a job right after you takeç a bath. it is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods in trapping children, first of all, in child laws which are truly stupid. >> in america you're allowed to be dumb, you know. i mean, we don't require you to be brilliant. most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitor, have one master john tore and pay local students to take care of the school. >> meanwhile, get this one, when it comes to moral character, republicans say romney's the one. he has 32%, and newt, the front-runner, gets 9%. it really tells you a lot about this party, but let's not get too excited. enjoy your time at the top. as we've already learned in this race, newt. republicans adhere to sir isaac

newton's theory of gravity, what goes up, must come down. joining me now, bob franken, a syndicated columnist. he's been writing about the rise of newt and jonathan capehart, editorial writer for the "washington post" and msnbc contributor. jonathan, tell us, how long can the newt surge really go on for? >> however long the republican primary voters decide they want to keep him there. remember, herman cain was riding the wave for about a month or so. newt gingrich is now back on top, but i think from those clips that you showed, i wonder how long it will take for republican primary voters to tire of the scolding, hectoring, belittling, dismissing, demeaning tone from newt gingrich when he talks about just about anything. >> well, if they don't tire of that, bob, let's lookç at this chart of say some of the things

that have come out that have raised questions, earned millions working for freddie mac in the drug industry when he took positions against them, supported expansion of medicare, supported t.a.r.p., favored insurance mandate. you've been covering newt for a long time. how is newt going to handle all of this? >> well, just a few little teeny weenie inconsistencies there, i would have to say. >> just a little. >> teeny bit. this is a man who has mastered the art of walking backwards. i have a mental image of newt gingrich moonwalking. it's not a pretty sight, but he -- the hectoring, et cetera, that jonathan was just talking about is the kind of thing that republicans want to hear right now. he is a master of certain key words, the forum he was just at was hosted by frank lutz who is the wordsmith of the republican party, and he knows and newt knows that if he says words like islamist and socialist and radical and reactionary, people aren't going to really care.

his followers, they used to call them dittoheads when we were talking about rush limbaugh, the followers won't really listen to the substance of what he says. he knows he can push buttons. that used to be called demagoguery. >> yeah, it still is. jonathan, let me show you the polls. >> yeah. >> you've got mr. gingrich at 24, romney at 20 and cain really going down, 17, and perry 11. he is leading in the polls, despite all of this. >> mm-hmm. >> how do you explain it? >> hey, i have no idea. i'm the last person who can get into the mind of a republican primary voter, but there argç a couple of numbers, which i don't know if you have graphics for them in -- in that particular poll that are interesting. i believe it's 67% of those polled said that they could change their mind, so these numbers -- >> we've had about five

front-runners in the last four months. >> so that should show newt gingrich and his campaign that, you know, they are going to ride the -- ride the wave for as long as they can. >> well, bob, let me show you this. the graph where it shows the ups and downs of the front-runners. look at this, this shows romney, gingrich, cain, perry, the peaks and valleys of their position, this is all gallup. the only one that kind of remains constant is romney who's basically flattened since july. >> jonathan is on to something that i haven't thought of before, polls showing that people could change their minds and that is what they have in common, the voters, who are polled with mitt romney and newt gingrich. these are people, politicians who change their minds constantly. that's it. that's the explanation. as for that graph, i have to say that my eyes crossed when i was looking at it. >> yeah, i think you're right. >> at least the voters are a little more transparent about

wanting -- more open and honest about changing their minds than newt gingrich or mitt romney. >> i think the explanation here is that the republicans are having sort of the cycle that they keep going around with the same people, and in the corner there you have a few of the other candidates jumping up and down, rick santorum jumping up and down saying hey, how about me, how about me. >> all sorts of craziness. >> and jon huntsman. >> the american federation of state county of municipal voters has taken outç a new ad about taking on newt's comments about getting rid of child labor laws and maris it to scenes from "annie" when the orphan sings "it's a hard knock life." >> most of the unionized schools ought to get rid of the janitors, have one master janitor and get the kids to take care of the schools. >> it's a hard knock life for

us. >> don't it feel like the wind is always howling, like there's never any lights. >> quite an effective ad, jonathan. i didn't know that afscme had even gone to see "annie" but it's very interesting. >> i think that shows that we're going to be -- we're in for a lot of very clever entertaining hilarious ads like that one for the next year. >> well, bob franken, jonathan capehart, thanks for your time. >> you have something quickly, bob, while we go. >> i'm waiting for the speech from newt gingrich proposing sweatshops. >> stay tuned. >> it's coming, mark my words. >> coming up, you won't believe what some conservatives are saying about that shocking pepper spray video out of

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reminiscent, this is a throwback to bull connor and birmingham, alabama. this lieutenant reminds me of bull connor. those students remind me of the students who are washed away with fire hoses. this is what this is about. here's my suggestion. i think the two of us, ben jealous, mark moriel, the civil

rights community, we really ought to go to the university of california davis and stand in solidarity with these students. >> oh, there's no doubt we ought to stand this solidarity with them the way others did. >> let me show what pepper spray actually does. it causes tissue inflammation in the eyes, nose, throat and lung, causes respiratory attacks and makes it very difficult to breathe, causes nausea and disorientation and temporary blindness, causes pall s s para increases blood pressure. this is serious. this is not some derivative from a vegetable. and these kids, let's emphasize, were doing nothing wrong. there was no violence, there was no provoking. there were all kinds of ways to handle this situation. >> this is an act of civil dis obedienceç obedience. this is what gandhi did. this is what king did, and quite

honestly anybody who looks at that, you either identify with the lieutenant or you identify with the students. there's no middle ground here. i choose to identify with those students who -- who gave us a perfect example, so in a way they have -- they have done us -- the lieutenant has done the movement a favor, much the way that bull connor did the civil rights movement a favor. >> well, let me say this. in many ways they have shown the callous disregard for respect of human beings and protests because let's do this. rather than talking about going to o'reilly, because we certainly can deal with this on this show, let's deal with the fact that if people had pepper sprayed tea party members, what would have been the reaction over there, and would i have taken the same position. >> absolutely. >> that you shouldn't have treated tea party people like

that, and some of them came out with guns, but they shouldn't have been pepper sprayed. >> absolutely. you're 100% right. that's why there is consistency on the part of progressives. we are very consistent as it relates to that, because i would have taken the same position. now i sat there and i said this is nothing more than a revision of bull connor. i mean, this is just bull connor instead of fire hoses. it's -- it's pepper spray, and for the purpose of doing what? they are trying to draw attention to the issue so i hope people now pay attention. >> i've got to go, joe. thank you very much. have aç wonderful holiday. >> same to you and your family. >> many of you know and have seen the coverage now for the last couple of years. bill o'reilly and i don't agree on much, we from time to time have gone to dinner and had dinner and debated. bill, if we go to dinner any time