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msnbc takes you behind the walls of america's most notorious prisons. into a world of chaos and danger. now, the scenes you have never seen. "lock up, raw." >> good afternoon, gentlemen. i hope you're enjoying this overcast, cloudy day. >> catch that dove over there. >> it prides itself as america's toughest jail. >> we don't issue them pillows so that they use extra blankets or toilet paper rolled up in a sheet. >> but we went behind the headlines to find the stories
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that ranged from the unexpected. >> my ears were an inch. when i'm done i'll be to three or four. >> to horrifying. >> what did you do that you would consider torture? >> ripped his teeth out. that's my favorite. >> and at the center of this most unusual jail is one of america's most controversial figures. >> they hate the place. that's music to my ears. >> when we decided to shoot lockup extended stay at maricopa county, arizona, we fknew we wee going to a place that most people had heard about. our approach was to embed our crew for four months. i mean, really spend a lot of time to tell the true story of america's toughest jail. >> on any given day, there are
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more than 9,000 male and female inmates incarcerated at maricopa. most have not been convicted of the crimes with which they have been charged. but are on or awaiting trial. they're housed in six different facilities. >> i would describe maricopa county jail as like no other jail i have ever seen before. first of all, the sheer volume of it is staggering. so just walking in there and figuring out who's important, how the systems work, even how you get through the doors, is a challenge. >> go to the westgate. see the officer. >> the maricopa county jail has been the subject of more media attention than probably any other jail in america. in recent years it's been due to the county's policies toward illegal immigrants. before that, much of the coverage centered on its practices. such as constructing an outdoor
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housing facility with tents. the striped uniforms and pink underwear inmates are required to wear. and the use of chain gangs to perform everything from maintenance work to burying the indigent. behind it all is the man who has run the jail since 1992. sheriff joe arpayo. >> one of my philosophies is you should never live better in the jail than you do on the outside. >> you purposely want your jails to be tough? >> i don't want it to be a hilton hotel like some other prisons around the nation. it's always rehabilitation, education. and we have all that in our jails that nobody talks about. but we punish our children, take away certain things from them, privileges, and we punish people and take away their privileges. >> there is not another law enforcement figure in america as
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famous or as well covered as sheriff arpaio. i had an idea about who he was before i went in. but when you actually meet him, it's a really interesting experience. >> so what is this? a little introduction. >> 78 years old, he can sit down and talk with you for two hours and you could have done 20 hours straight. he is passionate about his position and about his beliefs and he likes to talk about them. why does your message resonate? you win your elections pretty handily? >> in 1992 i made a promise to the people i will be a very active sheriff. i don't play golf, i don't fish, i have no hobbies. i just work 14 hours a day. and then i'm not afraid to talk to the media. >> and people joke he never met a camera he didn't like. but he explained pretty well to me how he didn't believe that
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was the case. in fact, he thought the opposite was true. >> i didn't call you guys, you guys called us. so i'm the publicity hound. you know why i'm talking to you? i'm getting my message across. it won't be a fluff story, or a nice story, but that's okay. >> he really wants to talk about his policies and his believes. >> i took away their porno. took away their coffee. took away their salt. took away their cigarettes. i should be given the heart association award of the year. put them in pink underwear. they hate pink. at least around here. so you never give them a color they like. why would you give them things they like? they hate the place! that's music to my ears. and by the way, all my inmates on the chain gang, i don't put them in the deserdesert, choppi rocks. i put them on the streets, they clean trash, save taxpayers money, but the real reason since
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i can't hire hollywood actors, i use my inmates as actors. as seconds. because when the cars drive by, with the mother and father and with the kid in the car, i hope they're saying, see, honey, you do something wrong, you're going to be on that chain gang wearing pink underwear and striped uniforms. maybe that kid will never forget that. i don't run a cia operation in the jails. you, anybody, can go in those jails, talk to any inmate you want, let them say they hate me, i don't care. i have nothing to hide. ♪ >> this place sucks, man. >> i'm walking through the famous tent city which in some ways is what sheriff joe
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arpaio's jail are known for. inmates living outdoors in the heat, in these tents. and i meet dustin crawford. >> catch that dove over there, and eat that [ bleep ]. serious man. i'm dead serious. >> one of the things that was interesting about dustin crawford is he had a unique take on one of sheriff joe's famous lines. >> our men and women are fighting for our country and they're living in tents and they never committed a crime. so i tell all these detractors to shut their mouth and don't keep criticizing our tent operation. >> well, dustin had just returned from iraq and he provided an interesting counter narrative. >> i was in iraq three weeks ago and it's a lot easier than it is here. as far as, i mean, that sign right there, ain't true. soldiers do eat steak and
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lobster on fridays in iraq, you know? when you're in iraq, i mean it sucks because you're in a combat zone and stuff but when you're not, you're being treated like a [ bleep ] respectable soldier. you know? you eat good, you get to sleep with the proper equipment you need? i mean, you're taken care of as a humane person. even p.o.w.s get treated better than these guys here. they don't get fed good here, there's rats running around, they wake you up every 30 minutes. >> my philosophy is to make it tough so that the people who serve time learn a lesson. with the theory of maybe they will never come back. we don't have the electric fence on, do we? i go in the tents quite frequently. how you guys doing? >> when we walked through the jail facilities with sheriff joe, one of the things that sticks out is his verbal jousting with the inmates is nonstop. you know? they got something to say him to and he's always got a retort
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right back at them. >> right here -- >> it's hot out here? >> yes, sir. >> you ought to come here in the summer. >> and it's pretty amusing to watch. >> want me to run for governor? >> actually, it's not up to me. it's up to the voters of this state. >> yeah, i'll put you in charge of the religious program. >> i don't think so. i'm sure i'll find a way to the other side. >> vote for governor. >> spread it around. >> democratic ticket? >> democratic ticket? [ laughter ] this guy is pretty sharp. are you sure you're who you are? you're not an impostor? >> the inmates have the funny thing, where they both despise him, but he has a celebrity status, and they want him to sign postcards for them. kind of like an exciting moment in their day when sheriff joe comes down. >> slop. >> the dinner that you give.
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the dinner. >> is that spaghetti and meatballs? >> probably not. >> so i did have to give them television. the judge many years ago said you have to have tv and they never say what to show. i decide what to show. i'm sure not going to show this series to them. i show them the weather channel, the food channel and c-span where they have to watch all these politicians. that's all they get. but they're still getting television. >> and one of his latest innovations when we were there was this idea of this what he called a chair. actually an exercise bike that would power the televisions. >> a lot of you guys are kind of fat. you need to lose some weight. >> i know. >> i'm on the chain gang. >> i gained 20 pounds since i came here. >> okay. 20 pounds. you guys need some exercise. ever been on an exercise bicycle?
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can you do an hour at a shot. an hour at a shot? >> yeah. >> so he wanted the inmates to ride this bike in order to have the privilege of watching tv. >> we're going to hook the chair up to the television. here. and as you pump, you can watch television and we're going to let you watch anything you want. you're going to work hard for the television to lose weight and protect your heart. i think it's only right for you to be able to watch anything -- nbc, msnbc, you know, all that. >> when sheriff joe described this idea to us, it seemed frankly pa little half baked. i wasn't sure he was going to get it off the ground, but lo and behold, we go back and sheriff joe's got his exercise bike up and running. >> got to be innovative. see, i didn't become sheriff to do the same thing.
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you look at these prisons, they're all the same thing. the food is great. a few riot once in a while. i have been doing this almost 18 years. where's all my riots? they riot everywhere. the pizza's cold, they riot. the tv, look at all the riots across the nation. how come i don't have a riot? i had one in tent city in 1996. so if you have a shortage of officers, all my tough programs, 50% hate the sheriff, where's my riots? are they too weak to riot? how come they're not rioting? coming up -- >> i mix it with the jelly. jelly packet and it kind of makes a gel. >> maricopa inmates learn to make do. a huge impact by shopping small on small business saturday. one purchase.
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nothing at the maricopa county jail in phoenix, arizona, is designed to bring comfort to the 9,000 inmates housed there. >> we don't issue them pillows so they either use extra blankets or toilet paper rolled up in a sheet. >> but over the four months we shot lockup extended stay, we heard more complaints about the food than anything else. >> this [ bleep ]. we need pizza, hot wings, greens, chitlins. this will make [ bleep ] go crazy. get to hurting people. >> many of the inmates came up with their own culinary concoctions, using snacks purchased from the commissary. mika butter field who was serving six months for possession of methamphetamine showed us her recipe for corn nut menudo.
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>> got corn nut, let them soak. then add hot jalapeno cheese. like i'm on a cooking show. then you take hot and spicy pork rinds and you add it all together. once all of it's wet, you eat it. it's hot. it's spicy. see? looks nasty, huh? >> while it was a noble effort, i don't think this won anybody on the crew over. but she was trying to do her best with the tools available at the time. >> the same was true when it came to female inmates and makeup. while a few items such as mascara could be purchased from the commissary, most inmates chose to save the money on eye makeup and create their open.
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colored pencils were a popular alternative. but inmates susan took things to a whole new level. >> all women have a morning ritual on how they put themselves together to look their best, and i thought it was really, really interesting how susan warcoe do her hair in the mo morning. she'd mix up jelly and put it in her hair. >> so i take the motion and mix it with the jelly, regular jelly packets we get, 20 cents each. it's a gel. and i just mix it with the lotion. and put the jelly on with the lotion. then i rub my hands together and it's really messy, but it's worth it. it kind of like makes a gel. >> i know, you know, women use avocado and things like that, but to take a packet of grape
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jelly and put it in your hair was really, really surprising. >> just like any gel, you'll go like that and scrunch it and it's already getting sticky so i know it's working on me. >> like who on earth would do something like this? she laughed and she said we have nothing else to use and to be quite honest, my hair smells so good and i enjoy it that this is something i'll do even after i get out of here. >> then i take this to scrunch out the extra jelly and lotion and it helps it dry faster. >> her hair actually did smell really good. >> hairstyle complete. just got to wait for it to dry. >> there's so many things you take for granted when you're on the outside, and those things are such valued commodities within the jail. for joe watson, what meant more to him than anything else was lead for his pencils. >> these are probably the most
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valuable things in here to me -- pencils, because i spend most of my time writing. >> when we met joe watson, he was acting as his own lawyer in an attempt to avoid a maximum sentence after he was convicted for a series of armed robberies. >> i have to write motions and letters and these are like gold to me. we get them once a week or if i find a generous detention officer, he'll give one to me. as you can see, they're very small. like golf pencils and they get dull very quickly so i have to come up with ways to correct those problems. we can either maybe use a razor blade, a spare razor blade that somebody has to sharpen it, or go under a seat like this and spend about 20 minutes scratching back and forth to make it sharp. >> the inmates are really ingenious about creating something out of very little. joe would essentially maybe these homemade mechanical
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pencils. really quite ingenious if you think about it. >> take a couple pencils and you stick them in a bottle of water. let them sit there for a couple of days a and this softens up the wood so that you can split it apart and take the lead out. after it has been sitting there for a couple of days then you'll be able to split them right down the middle. so what you end up with is something like this. split it apart and inside is your lead. so take a full thing of lead like this and then you have your mechanical pencil already. i have one here and you can push it from the back out and there i've got my pencil. when i need more lead, just press it up like that. then we use emery boards to sharpen it up. this makes it nice and longer, a better grip. and there's your pencil. >> you have to soak pencils in water in order to do your legal briefs and you're going up against a prosecutor who's got probably six pcs in his office.
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>> yeah. and -- >> doesn't seem like a slight disadvantage? >> a little butt it of a disadvantage, but when i win i will have a hard-earned victory, i hope. >> watson's pencil defense did have some success. his prosecutor wanted 25 years. he was eventually sentenced to 12, but with good behavior and time served, he will be eligible for release in 7 1/2 years. coming up -- one of the most colorful inmates at maricopa. >> this one is of my daughter. the reason why i'm in here. >> later, one of the most feared. >> she is the one in this whole jail that creeps me out. >> rest assured if someone had killed they have a reason to do it. we need the jobs. [customer:] we need to protect the environment.
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convicted of crimes ranging from unpaid parking ticket to capital murder. with more than 9,000 inmates, there's an equal number of stories and personalities to be found here as well. >> my ears were an inch. when i'm done i'll be at three or four with live that rant you lars in my ears. most of mine deal with death or protection. one way we're all going to die. protection from gargoyles. this is my daughter. that's the reason i'm in here. i haven't paid any of my child support. i would have to lose my pants to show you the other ones. >> that's all right. >> while nolan will serve his 90-day sentence in tent city along with hundreds of other inmates who swhave been convict of nonviolent crimes, most others live in indoor
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facilities. in one of those facilities, we came upon a high security housing unit that was like nothing we had ever encountered before. >> when you enter the facility which is where the women are housed within the maricopa county jail system, the vast majority are incarcerated in these dorm-like facilities. with the exception of a very small number of prisoners who are housed in a maximum secur y securisecurity unit. and a unit within that unit is the adam 100 pod. >> although the adam 100 pod had space for 32 inmates, it held only four of maricopa's most infamous. >> i remember being briefed prior to going into the adam 100 pod by one of the officers about an evacuation plan if something went awry in there. >> there will be two officers present and myself also. i will be there with my taser drawn. >> in all the rest of maricopa
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county including the special management unit of the maximum security men's jail, i had never been given a brief like that. this was the only time that we had had a contingency plan in case we were attacked by an inmate. >> basically, we're going to keep the door to our back. so if there's any problems the cameraman will have to fall back. the two detention staff and myself will form an arc to protect the camera crew and we'll do a tactical retreat out of the pod and secure the door. >> and the inmate that was the greatest concern to detention officers was angela simpson. >> simpson i think is very scary individual. >> coming up -- behind the scenes of one of our most chilling interviews. >> i just laughed it off thinking it was a big joke and as she told her story, i realized, well, maybe she wasn't joking. >> is it hard to chop up a human body? >> no, not really.
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hello, here's what's happening right now. american combat troops in iraq took a break from packing up their equipment to have turkey and pie. they will be out by the end of the year. meanwhile, back here in lower manhattan, volunteers handing out boxes of dinners to occupy wall street protesters. and the green bay packers one step closer to a perfect season. advancing to 11-0 with the thanksgiving day win over the detroit lions. back to "lock up." of all the inmates we interviewed at the maricopa county jail, one in particular made an equally striking impression on both our crew and detention staff.
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her name is angela simpson. >> simpson i think is very scary individual. she's probably the only one in there that i take every precaution in the world to make sure my staff and myself are safe. she is the one in this whole jail that creeps me out for a better word. >> i was the first person on the crew to get introduced to angela simpson. and upon meeting her, the first things that came out of her mouth when i approached her, she pretty much told me to go "f" myself. all right, well, welcome to jail. >> simpson is a very scary person. she is just by the nature of her crimes and the way that she has been here and just her manners and that, she just doesn't have -- seem to have a lot of those inhibition controls that most people would. because of that, she can be very much a threat to staff. we have to keep her in a very
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trolled setting. >> simpsonk wi was accused of kidnapping and torturing a man she believed to be a police informant and is said to have dismembered the corporatise, se on fire and thrown it in a dumpster. she proclaimed her innocence, but spoke openly about her crime to us. >> the media said you did heinous things. does that bother you? >> no, my give a [ bleep ] is broke. >> i never met an inmate who made me so uncomfortable. >> what did you do that was torture? >> i ripped my teeth out. that was my favorite. >> how did you do it? >> with needle nosed pliers. kind of ripped. >> the visceral descriptions that she gave of her crime of torturing an individual and dismembering her victim, i had
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never heard anybody describe anything like that. and i had certainly heard anybody describe it with such glee. so it was your pleasure when you committed this murder? >> see, that's kind of [ bleep ] up. i don't know what my lawyer would say when i answer that, yes, yes, it was. but yeah. >> it was really extraordinarily disturbing. i still think about it. >> it's pretty rewarding work. it's great for the soul. >> what were you trying to get out of him? >> he thought it was funny that the people he had snitched on would never get out of prison. so i wanted him to know how funny it was that they didn't need to. >> i guess the strange thing for me, i was two feet from her. i was holding a reflector to try to block some stray light and as she's telling these stories -- >> can you describe to me the things you did? >> no. no. because i'll get all excited and he'll be in trouble.
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i don't think i should do that. yeah. yeah. just he's too close for me. right now, get all hot with the stories. so leave that alone. >> and i just laughed it out thinking it was a big joke. as she told her story, i realized, well, maybe she wasn't joking. >> is it hard to chop up a human body? >> no, not really. you'd be amazed, it's quite simple, actually. you should try it, it's only a felony 6. knock it down to a misdemeanor. dismemberment, it's a low charge. >> sometimes it seemed like she was playing a game and then other times you could tell that it wasn't a game anymore, but she was reciting something three actually, you know, something that she liked to talk about. every now and then i'd pop in and talk to angela, check in with her. a lot of types she would be sitting there, drawing. she would always be in a zen-like state.
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just very calm while zefs doish doing some drawings. she told me she did some drawings for christmas card, i was expecting to see something light and these were most of the graphic things i had ever seen. >> this was my first officer down picture. just my officer down series. >> your officer down series. tell me about that. >> five or six -- >> what's happening in this picture? >> a cop has been captured and we're having fun with him. just a christmas card. getting uncomfortable when they find these things. >> when i saw angela's drawings, they were so disturbing and they really got to this deep, deep, deep seated hatred that she seems to have for police officers. >> they use their authority in way they want to because they can and there's nothing anybody can [ bleep ] do about it. >> simpson went on to rank those she considered to be the lowest
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of the lows. >> the worst and most vile creatures on the planet. snitches would come in second. then cops. they would be third. yeah. >> how about people who murder other people? >> what about them? >> where do they fall? >> in where? >> in your hierarchy? >> of badness? they don't. you want to throw murderers in with cops, are you serious? you're kidding, right? you can't put murderers in a category with [ bleep ] up people. that doesn't make any sense. rest assured if somebody killed a [ bleep ] they had a reason to do it. you have to look at the dead [ bleep ] not the person who did it. >> do you have any guilt about it? >> guilt, yes. i'm overrun with remorse.
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justice. justice is lovely. what are you thinking? when i said justice is lovely, what were you thinking? >> i was thinking how you'll feel about justice if they give you -- >> that's exactly what i knew you were thinking. i'll be thinking the same thing. >> that justice is beautiful? >>ious -- justice is lovely. >> coming up -- arguably she's maricopa's most magnetic inmate. >> she runs schemes, runs games, tends to become a controller of a pod, what we call pod boss. she's just a game planner. >> a lot of the girls in hollywood do it. vegas baby! maybe we should head back to the dealership first?
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during our shoot at the maricopa county jail in phoenix, we interviewed roughly 150 inmates. but few stood out as more of a force of nature than kelly mcdonald. >> we've got beer made, it it's all hidden. got 30 cigarettes -- yeah, it's a party. it's a party. >> side to side. >> so you want to see -- okay. all right. >> you did it. you did it. went right up my nose. >> one of the things that is so striking about kelly mcnaughten is she always seemed to have this entourage of the prettiest girls in the jail with her. >> this is my entourage, yeah.
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>> i have two blondes that when i get recall stressed out, jackie and courtney -- i just call them the blonde [ bleep ] and i lay between them and i hold their hands and tell them about my problems or whatever. they just sit there and act like beautiful. >> these women would do all these things for her. they would make her bed. they would give her honey buns. they were constantly doing her favors. and it was hard to ever ascertain why, what her magneti magnetism, what her popularity was all about. but everyone knew her. >> mcnaughten had pled not guilty to theft of property and stolen property. but it was her behavior inside the jail that made an impression on the staff. >> kelly mcnaughten is what i would like to call a professional inmate at this point in her life. she runs schemes, runs games. tends to become a controller of a pod, what we call a pod boss.
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she is game player. >> she could give herself her own nickname. and i think it stuck. not because she gave it to herself, but because it was totally appropriate. she was involved in every sort of drama. >> sugar -- [ bleep ]! >> for us, we know that if something is going on somewhere, mcnaughten's fingers are in it. >> i make the best hooch. >> i want more. >> tattoos is my best thing. because i give the best tattoos. out of everybody. stringing eyebrows. i went to go a good aesthetician school when i get out of here. as you notice, my eyebrows are very nice. my work. >> there's no money within the jails. money is considered contraband, so inmates constantly use a barter system in order to get things they want. whether that be food or somebody
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to do a favor for them. they call these hustles. mcnaughten had one of the craziest hustles i've ever heard. >> i have given most of the girls in the dorm an enema. are you ready for one? >> yeah. >> people in hollywood do it all the time. the models do, they get colon cleanses all the time. doctors get paid high charges for colon cleanses. you never had a colon cleanse? wow. a lot of the girls in hollywood do. >> how many did you give? >> the other day it was 54. today you walked in, i had gotten done doing one. it was 55. >> this is a hair conditioner bottle. we empty it and whatever. and then hot water and shampoo. first of all, you go to medical -- you have to pay $10 to get a suppository. you come to me, you only have to give a honey bun. the original thing i tell them is you'll lose two to five
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pounds, and in here, you gain weight. i gained 50 pounds in here. >> nicole mee chum had been asking for her special brand of help for several weeks. now she was in luck. >> i'll do it for free today. >> thanks. >> and it's on the house. >> thanks. what's your name? >> nicole. >> okay. >> it's not a hustle. i care about people. i genuinely care about people. seems like a lot of shampoo. and it is. i'm sure you know what you're doing, kelly. >> yeah. >> i accept tips. some girls have given me oh, my god, thank you so much, and given me stuff because it helped them out. >> ready? we're going in. let's go. let's go. >> did it help? >> yes, it did. >> so people should stop giving me a hard time? >> yes. >> yes, because i have been doing a service here. i'm here only to help. >> sure does help.
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during our extended stay at the maricopa county jail, there was no end to the lineup of interesting people we met. >> yeah, you guys are cool. that's why i have been talking to you lately. you guys are cool. i would hang out with you guys, maybe. how much money do you have in your wallets? >> but the long days of shooting could sometimes take a toll on our crew. >> one of the small pleasures that we had was, you know, break the crew for lunch and we'll go walk outside into the sunlight for an hour or so. we'll grab a little lunch. >> how you doing?
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>> there was a particular deli that we went to a lot. one of the women who made our sandwiches actually did so carrying a pistol on her hip. >> thank you, sir. >> you're welcome. >> enjoy your lunch. >> this isn't something you see very often when you're at subway or at some deli. sandwich artist with a glock with a 15-round magazine in it. >> can i get a factory special, please? >> sure thing. want lettuce, tomato, onion on it? >> yeah. >> why do you carry when you're making sandwiches? >> this is a right to carry state. as long as you're not a convicted felon or a domestic abuser, you can carry it on your hip any and all times. including at work. >> there's a little bit of a cultural adjustment when you get to arizona that you realize, wow, this is a place where people carry guns. even the counter girl at the sandwich shop. >> you never know what creatures are lurking around the corner. this is the wild, wild west.
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>> back inside the jail, another tradition from the old west was taking place. >> the dynamic between the detention officers and the inmates is interesting. one officer in particular, officer fuellater had an interesting way of staying engaged with the inmates. he played cards with them. >> shuffle the cards up. lay them out on the table, i tell them which card to pick. they pick the card, they get whatever prize that i select for them. >> sometimes it's cards, sometimes its food or milk. >> if they don't win it, they have to be quiet and leave me alone for the day. >> he's lying. we don't cut him no slack. >> you first? >> yeah. >> snakes, huh? >> snake. thanks. >> you got it. >> not camera shy now. watch.
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>> it was perfectly within the rules. >> seven. >> but it was his way of sort of understanding the pulse of the pod. >> nine? >> nine. >> he's the force. >> yes, sir. >> you're the only officer who comes in and shows us respect. we'll give them respect back. we have officers in here for lack of a better word [ bleep ]. you know what i mean? but the guy who does the card tricks he's a fair officer. any time we get an officer like that, we give him respect back. he makes our day easier so we make his day easier. it's give and take. >> yes, it is. >> [ bleep ]. >> have fun. >> with life at maricopa, it wasn't all fun and games as one resident of tent city so
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eloquently explained. >> you really need smellivision. i think the smell is actually pumped and canned and then it's released in a small area field downwind. kind of breezes over us. >> i'm sitting there in tent city and i'm interviewing this inmate named john harrington who's ranting and ranting about the deplorable conditions in the jail. in fact, at one point he wanted me to sample the water to see -- i don't know, how alkaline it tasted or something. >> have some of that. taste that. tell me what you think of that. >> tastes like water. >> tastes like water? really? what a guy. >> they always want me to try the food, taste the water. you know, to share their pain. >> that water is tasting worse and worse. >> can somebody get him a fresh glass of water? he would love some more. >> then over the public address system, you hear this voice.
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>> it's officer solomon with you here. i hope you're enjoying this overcast cloudy day. high temperatures only going to be about 65 degrees. >> wait a minute. wait a minute. get this. please put this in. >> now calling for the saint joseph the worker class. if you're interested in finding out a little bit more about the saint joseph the worker and the job opportunities or housing opportunities that are available to you, go ahead and meet me in the classroom right now. >> and harrington is laughing. i'm wondering who is this guy? >> i'm officer solomon, i'm the program coordinator here for tent city. okay. come on up, guys. >> officer solomon had this radio voice, so when we first met him and he started talking to us, we were all thinking like this guy must have done something in radio. and he actually did. >> many people of course ask me, you know, when they hear my voice, officer solomon, you've
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got that voice and face for radio. get it, face for radio. anyway, yes, i was in radio. for many years. and i did a little tv, did a little radio. loved it. but as i would sit in the studio, you know, as i would be selling and back selling songs that was the latest by def leppard, coming up around the corner we have a little docken for you, rat. i said more of your requests, it's coming up with me the big g. it was fun. it was a fun life. it was great. i loved walking into the store, hey, big g. how you doing? it was a lot of fun. but i said, is this my life? all right, coming for the saint joseph the worker life? is this my life, back selling rock 'n' roll songs and taking requests? i wanted something more. i wanted something where i was helping people and i wanted to go to the action was.
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where else to do that than in the jails. gentlemen, listen up really quick. i need to have you come up row by row. it's very important that you put your name on both of these rosters. okay? we don't want anybody to be missing from head count. now, do we? you know, i wear civilian clothes, but i'm an officer. i have some inmates who knew who i was, they have had said, hey, big g. i have had that happen to me. that's always a lot of fun. it's really -- when i make announcements, good afternoon, gentlemen, how are you all doing today? officer solomon here with you on a beautiful, bright and sunshiny wednesday afternoon. i used to do the weather. i was a weatherman in radio and occasionally to spice things up a little bit, you know, i'll throw in a little weather report for the day. chance of some rainy skies tonight, but tomorrow and on to the three-day forecast we're going to be looking at most sunshiny skies.
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temperatures are in the lower to mid 70s. >> you know, it kind of makes their day more interesting. makes my day more interesting. kind of livens things up a little bit which they react to very well. their life in jail is so much about routines. >> i think the inmates thought his announcements were kind of corny, by they all respected him because he was such a nice guy. >> when are you getting out? >> in april. >> oh, you're out of here. yeah. you're out of here quickly. >> there's no reason for them to ever talk bad about him at all. >> good afternoon, gentlemen? >> they make jokes and make fun of him, but no one ever really did anything disrespectful to him. >> the clouds are going to come back around. >> oh, that's pathetic. >> thanks, guys.
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