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child porn collection, another inmate attempt's to salvage his relationship with his children and daughter. >> so when am i going to get pictures of the kids? >> approximately the inmate injury nighted out his cell door. >> the inmates take steps to contend with the inmate on a mission. >> they are going to transfer me out of here or take me now a body bag, one way or the other. >> are you going to comply? >> there's a certain anonymity among big cities, but boston is traditionally of tight-knit neighborhoods where it really does seem like everyone knows your name. even behind the walls of the city's primary detention
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facility, the suffolk county jail. >> we grew up in the south bend, part of the city of boston, which is our neighborhood not far from the facility. within seven years of this job i've encountered numerous people i have known from childhood, from high school, or just in the neighborhood itself. >> inmates, too often find themselves among friends and relatives. >> we are brothers, that's right. >> though not all suffolk county inmates are houses in the same facility. those who have only been charged with a crime and are awaiting trial are held at the national street jail until the resolution of their case. those who were convicted and received sentences of 2 1/2 years or less will usually srve their time four miles away at the house of correction. >> at the top of the world! 15 minutes. i told you! i told you! >> it's a place sal guilano has
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become familiar with over the last years. >> i keep a small circle. >> my buddy shane, mini me. >> there's a character for you. what's up? these guys are from the same part of town. >> what's up, guys? what's up? >> i don't want to make any more friends. i have 13 commitments. i have been in this jail 12 times. my last court date i had 76 convictions. i'm doing the second half of my sentence. i went home on probation and they placed me on a bracelet house arrest that didn't fit too well. i ended up cutting it up. that was a first of my own. i assists a few friends before. >> guilano's latest conviction
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is for breaking and entering. he says the crime was committed to support his heroin habit. >> that's pretty much my history. all my crimes are drug related. i don't commit crimes by nature. it is drugs and if i can find ways to support my habit without hurting anyone, i'm going to take a shot at it. >> he says even his childhood memories are tied to the drug trade. >> my father was an alleged cocaine dealer. i remember before i was 10 years old bringing to school a homemade drug, the raises, the fake lines, you know, the cut up pepsi bottle. give these to phil. >> five years ago guilano was convicted of conspiracy to violate drug wars. he served a three-year sentence in prison. >> that was for a charge i picked up here in this unit, as a matter of fact. cell 21.
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they alleged that i was smuggling drugs into the jail for profit. >> while he wouldn't discuss the specifics of the case, he says if drugs did make it into the jail, there would be a ready market. >> hold it down, kid. something that goes for $10 on the street goes for $100. a pack of cigarettes, $100. and it is very profitable. >> but these days guilano says he has a different set of concerns. >> how are you? >> just do your job, all right? >> you got it. a few years ago they caught me clean. >> you would have been in segregation. >> the only water on the floor came from the toilet. >> guilano says changes at the jail have forced him to do his time without problems. >> anymore there's no such thing as keeping quiet.
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honest to god, to not face any charges. i don't put myself in a situation where you have to worry about me telling or i have to worry about someone else telling on me. i just avoid it all. >> while he decided the best way to do time is to lay low, up in the disciplinary segregation unit another inmate has chose an different route. >> it's approximately 12:15 p.m. we are outside the 131 segregation unit with inmate ricardo gomez being disruptive and refusing all lawful orders by the security staff to cease his behavior. >> the sheriff's emergency response team or s.e.r.t. was called to the floor to deal with the inmate causing problems since early morning. procedure requires they videotape the interaction. >> at approximately 10:00 to 10:30 inmate gomez urinated out his cell door. he was told not to do that again
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or he would receive placement into the restraining chair. at approximately 12:00 p.m. the inmate urinated out of his cell again and we'll put him in the chair due to his behavior. >> inmate gomez, if you don't comply with me you are going to be sprayed with chemical gas and placed in the chair. i'm going to give you a final order to put your hands through the trap. if you don't comply you'll be extracted. >> why are you doing this to me? >> turn around and place your hands through the trap. >> everything you asked me to do i have done. >> i'm not going to answer anything because i'm giving you an order. put your hands through the trap, it's your last chance. turn around and put your hands through. turn around, put your hands behind your back and put your hands through the trap or you'll be extracted from your cell. open cell. >> the problem inmate is 50-year-old ricardo gomez
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currently serving to conservative 2 1/2-year sentences for assault with a deadly weapon. >> he is a major dmaifrl issue. if things don't happen fast enough he tends to get riled up very quickly and it is tough to get him to come down. and everything is a problem for him. nothing -- he doesn't do anything wrong, we do everything wrong. and there's some major injustice. >> inmate gomez, i'm going advise you to remain silent. >> there's no such thing as freedom of speech in jail? what happened to my more an day rights and my amendment rights? >> when inmates continually act out, the jail can secure them in a restraint chair for up to four hours. as deputies place gomez in the chair they also fasten a mask around his face to prevent him from spitting. >> you guys got a [ bleep ] show. >> he's been secured at the waste, waist, or the torso and.
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>> he will stay awake until he comes out of there. he still continues to make threats and continues to act up and violate the rule os of the department. >> the lieutenant has a problem with me. he's a [ bleep ]! >> with gomez safely restrained, deputies conduct a serge of his cell checking for weapons or other contraband. it is not long before they find cause for concern. >> we discovered that inmate gomez's shoe laces are around the shower head. he's done this in the past to pull and activate sprinkle heads but also attempted to harm himself by tieing the shoe lace around his neck. deputies cut down the shoe laces and confiscate. in the past gomez and other inmates have caused floods by damaging shower or sprinkle heads. >> what he'll do is tie the shoe lace through the sprinkle head and yank the piece, the mechanism on the sprinkle head
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that allows it to sprinkle or activate causing damage to the housing unit. >> i'm going to take your bloop. >> while an inmate is restrained you need to receive a medical evaluation every 150 minutes. >> the general condition is stable. it's okay for him to remain in the chair. until his next checkup, gomez is placed into his cell. >> at this time gomez is secure inside the restraint chair and placed back into the cell 2 medically evaluated with no treatment necessary at this time and the camera is going to be turned off. >> you have put me in this chair for no listen, no reason at all. >> coming up, sal guilano finds his reputation has come back to haunt him. >> they said they found drugs downstairs in the basement. i don't know what they are
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inside the segregation unit of boston suffolk county's cig ration unit, inmate ricardo gomes has been causing problems since early morning. >> okay so medeiros, approximately 2:15 p.m., outside the 131 segregation unit where inmate ricardo gomes was placed in the restraint chair after being disruptive. >> after urinating on the cell door, threatening to throw feces at officers and tampering with the shower, gomes has been immobilized in a restraint chair. he's been there for almost two hours. >> i'm not going to go inside the housing unit, now i'm going to see if he's ready to comply with the rules of the facility. if he's willing to do so he'll be removed.
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are you willing to comply? >> i am and i'm tired of getting in this chair. >> okay. >> i'm tired of giving you a hard time. >> all right. >> i told you i'd stop this [ bleep ]. i'd give my word. >> okay. >> nobody in this jail can say rick gomes ever broke his word. >> okay, all right, that's fair enough. all i'm going to tell you this. this isn't personal. you might think it is because you get angry. no one wants to do this, no one wanted you to do this. we need you to comply with the rules and regulation. >> can i get a drink of water. >> we'll get you out of the chair first. then we'll see what we can do, is that fair? in addition to that, after being removed from the chair if you urinate out of your cell door, spit on the window, activate a sprinkler head you know where you're going to go. >> i'm all done. >> where are you going to go, back in the restraining chair. you understand that, though? i need you to acknowledge that. >> yes, sir. >> you are not going to do any of those things? >> no, sir. >> okay. >> inside here i only fight with
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the correctional officers. they call it their house, it should be our house. we sleep here 24/7. back in the old days, the inmates ran the jails. these new jails, it's their house. i disrespected their house. just by urinating on the floor and spitting on the glass window. i gave you my word, lieutenant. >> inmate gomes, no kicking your feet or moving your legs around, you understand? yes or no, sir? >> yes, sir. >> okay. removed from the restraint chair cooperatively, no treatment was provided and now he's secure inside cell two. cameras can be turned off at this time. >> gomes' stay at the suffolk county jail began five months earlier after a nighttime altercation began with assault
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with a dangerous weapon, the type of weapon which earned him his nickname, bricks. >> a brick that you make a wall out of, red brick, break it in half, put half in each pocket. all the cops know i carry them, station 4 especially, they know me, they pull up and go, "how are you doing ricardo gomes? where is the rock?" i say no it's not a rock, it's a brick. >> gomes says he uses his bricks to help others. like a vigilante. >> charles bronson is like my model. i love that guy. everybody has their own territory in the streets. i got from copley square to the top of lands downes street. if i catch you breaking into
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people's cars you get bricked. if you rob the kids or anybody i see you robbing any people you get bricked. the cop don't mind me in the neighborhood because i stop a lot of the crime. >> but rather than a citizenship citation, gomes's latest brick assault resulted in two, two and a half year sentences. since they must be served consecutively he'll be in the house of correction for five years. he's intent serving his time at a different facility. despite his promise less than an hour earlier he's willing to be a nuisance if it will help him get the transfer. >> i'm going to do my five years out of this jail, trust me. i'm going to get transferred, they'll get sick of me popping their sprinklers. >> what do you mean, popping the sprinklers? >> that's when you tie a spring inside the hole in the sprinkler system and you pull it and water comes out and the alarms go off
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and you hear all over the prison, doot, doot, doot, the lights flashing and the water pours out. i've never seen so much water come out of a little sprinkler. you can fill up a cell in ten minutes, like an aquarium. that ain't a bad idea either. >> he tends to feel there's a major miscarriage of justice against him and wants to get transferred to another facility where he's not going to go because he creates so many problems and he's a behavioral issue so they're not going to take him as a transfer because of the way he acts. >> thank you, mr. gomes. >> i'm not doing five years here. that's the bottom line. they're going to transfer me out of here or take me out in a body back. one way or the other. >> coming up -- >> looking at a bunch of dirty pictures isn't the same as molesting a child. >> the alleged owner of one of the largest child porn pictures
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at the suffolk county jail in boston, both men and women live in the house of correction. one of two facilities that comprise the jail system. they're housed on separate floors but that doesn't stop them from finding ways to communicate. >> it's 192, we get to talk to the guys downstairs. through the toilets. we clear them out and yell through the pipes. you could do it this way which people laugh at all the time. >> what are you doing? >> i'm plunging the toilet with my ass. >> because you can't talk to them unless it's clear so you got to get all the water out. >> yo! >> yeah, say hi. >> hi! this is the only way they'll do an interview. >> this is the only way they'll do an interview.
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>> life for most inmates at the suffolk county jail is anything but fun and games. inside the jail's nashua street facility is a newsing unit whose reputation that could result in grave consequences. >> a specialing housing unit, which we call the shu, is typically what most people refer to as pc, protective custody unit. the people who go to protective custody or special housing are those whose charges make them difficult to place in population, sexual crime charges, that individual is generally not welcome in any housing block. >> we see inmates often become targets in general population, where other inmates consider it a badge of honor to attack them. george shipps has been in this special housing unit for ten months now. >> i am here for downloading child pornography on my computer. that's my charge.
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>> shipps has not pled guilty, is in protective custody not only because of the nature of his charges, but the notoriety. >> the day i walked into the jail there was a television on and i was on the tv, that's why i've been in the shu, special housing unit, protective custody. >> according to news reports of his arrest, shipps allegedly had thousands of files of child pornography on his computer. authorities called it one of the largest collections ever confiscated. >> i never dreamed i would be sitting here facing charges like this. i thought it was harmless, voyeurism. >> shipps does admit to having
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some child porn on his computer. he says he stumbled through an application that allows users to view the contents of each other's computers. >> i would go through somebody's file and they would have 1,000 files and i would go and click on all these files, and then as as they downloaded i would view them. if they were my children, i would want to murder whoever it would have done this to them. so i knew that it was wrong, but looking at a bunch of dirty pictures isn't the same as molesting a child. >> shipps blames his battles with cocaine addiction and alcoholism for several prior convictions, including assault and battery on a police officer. he says child porn became another addiction. >> the addictive part was let's see what we can find that we're not supposed to look at. that was really the addiction part that came in, the thrill part.
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i'm not supposed to have this, so let me get it. if you said i can't have it, there must be some reason why so then i need to see it. >> but it wasn't just downloading child pornography that got shipps into trouble. he's also accused of distributing, something he blames on not understanding how file sharing works. >> once you have it on your computer, then somebody can come along and download it from your computer. >> if shipps is convicted, he could face up to ten years or more in prison. >> i didn't take any of these pictures or anything like that. i didn't assault anybody. in i had a camera and was going around taking pictures of children or molesting children or something like that, then absolutely, but i didn't do that. if i had a camera taking
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pictures or children molest i molesting -- >> while shipps' case works its way through the courts, he will remain in protective custody. >> there's very limited activity. i'd rather be out there. i watch the traffic and just imagine if it's somebody i know or if it's friends or family going to visit other friends and family. >> coming up -- >> hi, how are you? >> george shipps receives a visit from his daughter. >> i love my grandchildren very much. i don't want to lose them. >> and ricardo gomes breaks a promise. >> he's loading up on urine so he can throw it at someone if he's not getting his way. >> you know who that was for. one more gift...
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black friday, that's a 7% increase over last year. now back to "lockup." due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. at boston suffolk county jail, some inmates are better known to staff than others, mainly due to their many stays here. >> boston baby, b town boys, b town! >> sal guiliano is here finishing up a probation sentence, and he is here for the 12th time. it's a chance to catch up with buddies from his neighborhood. >> east boston baby, east boston. waitress. 2128, stay golden. [ bleep ]. how i grew up, loyalty was a big thing, friendship was a big
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thing. new just don't find many people that understand friendship. friendship to me is, you know, i do for others, those that are my friends i would do before i do for myself. selfish -- one coffee, there's six of us. you come in with one coffee, all right. i'll remember that. >> i didn't get canteened this week. >> you hungry? huh? you hungry? what do you want? >> that's what happens when he you get upset. >> we catch a lot of flak, we laugh, we joke, was know, we hang out in the cell all the time. we become close, you know? you have a zip code tattooed on your bicep. >> how am i going to get home? i'm from east boston, 0212, send
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me on my way. >> one of his prior stay resulted in a conviction for smuggling drugs in the jail. he says this time he has a whole new attitude. >> going to work. >> giuliano holds an inmate job as a runner cleaning housing units and helping with meal and laundry deliveries. >> my little office right here. this is all new to me, cleaning, staying out of trouble, trying to anyway. it wasn't easy, wasn't easy over the years. i guess you could call him the problem child for a while. >> deputy boussa worked at the suffolk county jail almost as long as giuliano has been frequenting it. >> years ago, always fighting, leaving segregation, come back to population and an hour later go right back to segregation. >> that was me. >> were you on the ninth floor, the heroin with the shed?
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>> i was there. >> you were there when they passed it through the door. >> the eighth floor. >> passed it from the eighth to the ninth? >> i was there. those were the days, too. big change this year since then. >> yes. >> now you're lucky if you're getting a tylenol. now big brother is watching 24 hours a day. >> right. >> you can't make no moves. big brother, cameras all over the place. everywhere. >> while deputy boussa says he appreciates his current laid back attitude he's not about to let his guard down. >> i know how he operates. he's been here a long time. he'll steal your wallet and turn around and help you look for it, so just be careful with him. >> me? me? oh. wow. i gave it back. i gave the card back to his wallet. >> inmate ricardo gomes is a familiar face among staff as well. >> i kept looking out my cell and seeing the clock on the wall. this is what i wrote. ♪ i seen the clock on the wall,
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the rhyme is still rippin. ♪ ♪ he got the mike [ bleep ] trippin' ♪ >> he's also known on the streets of boston where he performs as a rapper, some call the roxbury crackhead. ♪ roxbury crackhead cell phone ringer ♪ >> the lieutenant has spent more than his share of time with gomes over the past few months. >> there's no such thing as freedom of speech in jail? >> he's already pulled several sprinkler heads and activated the heads and attempted several times to harm himself and he's been extremely verbally abusive and threatening to harm staff. >> no sooner does the captain come on duty he spots gomes standing on his toilet reaching for a sprinkler head. >> what were you doing up there? i saw you up there. what were you doing up there? you don't have anything in your cell, do you? >> like what? >> anything. >> you searched me five times and still can't find no
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[ bleep ] that i have. every time they leave i break out a bag of coffee or [ bleep ] peach kool-aid and [ bleep ] have a sip. they never get everything. i got [ bleep ] you'll never find. >> want me to try? >> turn around. back up to the door. put your hands through, sir. >> the captain assembles a team of deputies to inspect gomes' sprinkler head and the rest of his cell for any contraband. >> we are going to take that down. >> within seconds of removing gomes from his cell, the deputies unravel a string from around the sprinkler head. >> he tied a piece of bed sheet up on the sprinkler head up there and he's ready to pull the sprinkler head. so that's why we're going in there, doing a cell search and check it out for any other types of contraband or weapons because he's known to do this. >> because he's making threats and doing inappropriate things when i come on the shift we want to make sure there's nothing in
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here that would allow him to do that. like, for instance, i'm looking down here besides this toilet and there seems to be a cup full of urine, and we'll have that taken out of here in a minute. the sprinkler head, the reality he's loading up on urine so possibly throw it at someone if he's not getting his way. >> you know who that was for, for lieutenant medeiros. >> we'll get you out of the chair first and see what we can do, is that fair? >> he singled me out, only one that comes to my cell, only one that writes me up and keeps hassling me so i was saving him a little present. >> he made threats that he was going to use it to throw in lieutenant medeiros' face the next time he comes around. that's a threat we take seriously, so he'll receive a disciplinary report for tying it on to the sprinkler head, the cup of urine on the floor as well as making threats to the unit. >> how much time do you still have to do? >> five years. >> five years? >> five years in this hellhole no, thanks.
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i'd rather do five years in a grave. >> for this incident, gomes could receive up to 30 additional days in segregation. if he continues to pile a disciplinary reports he could spend the majority if not all of his sentence in segregation. >> i'm going to write the report. i supervised the search. this is what we came up with. we'll write a report on that and hopefully we have no more problems with mr. gomes for the rest of the evening. >> home sweet home, huh? >> coming up, reports of gambling and drugs trigger a massive search. and in the middle of it is a group of neighborhood buddies. sorry. hand cramp... ahh... [ male announcer ] cyber week starts sunday and lasts all week. plus get free shipping on hundreds of thousands of items. the only place to go for cyber week. walmart.com.
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a year, it comes once a week on wednesdays, when the weekly canteen orders are delivered. >> i told you, you got to send me more money. >> for the ten months george shipps has been held in the protective custody unit, charged with downloading and distributing a huge collection of child pornography. canteen has been one of his few pleasures. >> that's the only thing i look forward to. i get trail mix, soups, i try to keep it very simple, i don't spend that much money. i don't want to call my children and say, can you send me some money. >> shipps' five children are all grown. today one of them has come for a visit. >> i'm going to see my daughter, who i haven't seen for over a year. i'm excited. >> it will be the first time shipps has seen his daughter, christine, since his arrest. >> not how you want to see your children. i'd much rather be meeting in a restaurant for dinner. but this will have to do for now. >> hi, how are you? >> christine has two young
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children and shipps' biggest concern is whether his charges might affect their relationship. >> it bothers me that she'll feel uncomfortable my being around my grandchildren. it's something i'm worried about. i have to reassure anything i did was all on the internet and that's all i want her to know, she doesn't have to worry. >> lockers are over there, straight ahead. >> are you nervous to see him? >> yeah. it's been a long time. >> what kind of relationship do you have with your dad? >> he's my father. he forgets my birthday all the time. but i don't know his either so i guess we're even. >> face me, left hand. when you go inside -- >> i visit a lot. i don't remember how many times but a lot. >> shipps' past convictions were for disorderly conduct and
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assault tied to his drug and alcohol abuse but christine says his current charges came as a surprise to her. >> but then again, i'm not sure any child really sees it coming or wants to see it coming. i think the mother part of me wants him locked away forever, but the daughter part of me wants to help him, so -- me personally, i know if i left my kinds around them they'd be fine, only because we were fine, but it is hard. to be a mother and a daughter in the same situation. >> just face me. open your mouth. lift your tongue. you can put your shoes back on. >> inmates awaiting trial are normally not allowed contact visits, but due to filming restrictions in the visiting area, jail officials set up a temporary space that could
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accommodate our cameras. >> hello. >> hi. >> my daughter. >> my favorite color. doesn't look that good on you though. >> good to see you. >> i have the one-piece but that's for people that are in the hole. how are you doing? >> good. >> that's nice. >> how are you? >> terrible. so how are [ bleep ] and [ bleep ]? >> doing good. he'll be 3. >> when? >> march? >> 10th. >> march 10th he'll be 3. is he in day care now? >> yes. >> so when am i going to get some pictures of the kids? some drawings. >> all of my pictures are digital. >> yeah. >> all of the pictures are digital. >> you don't have a computer? >> i do. i just haven't put the pictures on the camera to print them out yet. >> oh, yeah. >> mommy was the picture taker anyways, not really me.
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i'll i'm not into pictures. >> well you can have a disc printed out at a cvs or print out the disk for the pictures. i know in the paper the charges that i'm here for, i just wanted you to know all of those, everything was on the internet. i just wanted you to know that what i did, i know was, was stupid, first of all. i never should have been downloading all that material from the computer, but i just want you to know i would never, never in a million years do anything to harm my grandchildren. i love them very much. i just wanted you to know that. not to worry about them being around me, that i'm some kind of weird guy. i just, i love my grandchildren very much. i don't want to lose them. >> well, i think you need help, but i haven't changed. you're still my father. it still never affected my
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childhood. >> i thank you. i still love you. >> now when's my birthday? >> it is august 5th. >> how old will i be? >> oh, geez, come on now you got me. let's see, jason's 21 -- 25. 24. no? wow. 26? >> close. ? shipps, time is up. >> all right. i'll see you in a couple of weeks. thank you for coming. >> i love you. >> i love you, too. >> it was great. i had a wonderful time. it was good to see my daughter. >> i've never heard him apologize for anything before. he drank a lot so he never really owned up to stuff, so when he did it was kind of weird for me. like i heard him but i didn't really know what to make of what i heard him say, so. >> don't know how she'll react
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to my charges, if somehow she was afraid to let me see my grandchildren, which would be the worst thing going to jail. my grandchildren don't have to know about this. >> but moments later, another inmate reminded shipps that his position in the jail house hierarchy is known. >> you're a disgrace, pc. >> he doesn't know who i am, he's never seen me before but because i have this uniform on, you're classed as a pedophile or a rapist or -- >> does it scare you? >> yes, that somebody's going to want to get into a fight with me, not even knowing me or why i'm here or anything like that. just by, because i'm in a special housing unit. >> later, the inmate who insulted shipps made his feelings clear. >> there's some reason why he's in there, a child molester or something like that, maybe
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killed a baby, stuff you don't do. >> and if shipps is eventually sent to prison, he could have even more problems. >> there's no pc up state if that's where he's going, so he's going to fight for his life and he's no -- as i know he's a pc now, if i see him in another jail, word will get out, this is how it is, so we have to handle it. jail politics. >> coming up, a major shakedown for sal giuliano and ricardo gomes makes another promise. >> i'm going to give you 60 days, day 61 i'm going to become awful upset if i'm still here. it's like having portable navigation. a bluetooth connection. a stolen vehicle locator. roadside assistance. and something that could help save your life - automatic help in a crash. it's the technology of five devices in one hard-working mirror. because life happens while you drive.
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>> every inmate in the boston suffolk county jail knows cell inspections for drugs, weapons or other contraband are a way of life. >> they're doing their job. >> i don't feel that way. i feel it's biased man. >> we do random drug searches every day throughout the facility. that's every inmate in the unit gets searched as well as all of the cells. >> today, 30 deputies are inspecting a housing unit of 180 inmates at the house of correction. >> we're bringing in two dogs today, one is a patrol dog, german shepherd, pretty loud, he gets the attention of the inmates and lets them know we mean business, lets them know we are there. they'll follow the rules during the process, especially when we think weapon, et cetera, might be present. anything that makes them second guess their behavior is on our side. >> i want to talk to lieutenant medeiros.
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>> during the searches we came across inmate danny smith in possession of a large quanltty of canteen items. a lot of times the inmates swap canteen items. >> five years ago during a prior stay here sal giuliano was convicted of a more serious offense, attempting to smuggle drugs into jail. though he claims he's cleaned up his act, reputations die hard and today his cell is one of the first searched. >> they said they found drugs in the bathroom downstairs that everyone has access to every day. but because i clean down there, they ended up questioning me about it. i didn't know what they were talking about, though. >> giuliano's cell comes up clean. while the search turns up plenty of minor contraband items no drugs or weapons are found anywhere else in the unit. >> it was a good opportunity to
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get a lot of excess items they weren't entitled or authorized to have in the cells. >> [ bleep ] with them. >> fire hazard. >> giuliano wasn't surprised to be at the top of the list. >> they target the ones they think know something first. why they would think me i really don't know, honestly, maybe before they had a reason to but i've been staying out of trouble so i don't know why they, you know. >> still, giuliano has no regrets about his past. >> i am not ashamed of anything. i have the word tattooed on my back "shameless." >> george shipps says he has plenty of regrets about downloading and according to him unknowingly distributing thousands of images of child pornography on his computer. he is innocent until proven guilty, but as an acute sex offender he must spend his time in protective custody while he awaits trial. >> i would never in a million years hang around with anybody
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in here if i didn't have to live here with them so you have to get along with people because that's just the way it is but these people -- and if i ever seen them on the street i would say hello but i wouldn't say hello let's go have a beer or let's go hang out. i wouldn't hang out with anybody in here. >> though he could face ten or more years in prison if convicted, shipps is hopeful he will soon reach a plea bargain. >> what is a fair sentence for your crime? >> i think probation. i've been here now for well over a year. i think i've served enough time. i am sure i'll be able to live my life without porn just as i live my life without alcohol or drugs. i don't see myself having a problem with relapsing when it comes to pornography.
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>> ricardo gomes is also dealing with a reputation issue. he recently had a cup of urine confiscated from his cell. he says he was going to throw it at a particular officer, but first he was going to make it an even more sinister concoction. >> i was planning on making a special remedy called funky cold medina. it is kind of like skunk juice. it is made out of nasty things, urine, feces, peanut butter and sour milk. and you mix it together until it's a liquid. if you hit anybody with this, they ain't coming, they're not going to want to go home, trust me. >> bricks, i didn't finish coloring it in. >> a few weeks later, gomes had managed to avoid any more disciplinary problems. >> i told that lieutenant i promised him i wouldn't act up,
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keeping my word because i wanted to get my transfer. 60 days of quiet and i'm out of here. >> officials deny reaching such an agreement, gomes says if he stays out of trouble for 60 days he could become eligible for transfer to a jail in another county. >> i'm going to give them this 60 days, and on day 61 i'm going to become awful upset if i'm still here. if i'm still in here i'm going to do things nobody else would do, because i'll sit in this cell and burn all four walls. inside this look look about the people here all men call look inside and what do i see, a life in a fence is waiting for me.
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