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for office has run the power to shape the debate that will pick the next leade of the free world. the only thing more demeaning would be to let them all compete with each other on "dancing with the stars." that's "hardball" for now. thank you, chris, for this opportunity. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. newt gingrich won't step down. the gop on the poor and middle class continues as newt stands by his attack. but he knows better than what he's saying now and i'll show you that tonight. attacking elizabeth warren. a new plan by wall street to take her down. but we're exposing it tonight. and this is progress. the president's relentless fight for jobs is working despite republican roadblocks. >> now is not the time to slam the brakes on the recovery.
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right now it's time to step on the gas. welcome to "politics nation." i'm al sharpton. tonight's lead, growing outrage over an insult to poor children in this country from the man now leading in the republican presidential race. newt gingrich is tanlding by his attack on the war. in fact, he's repeating them. here's what he first said. >> really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works. they have no habit of i do this and you give me cash unless it's illegal. >> poor kids have no habits of working? that's outrageous. but when newt went on fox news to explain himself, he didn't back down, he doubled down. >> think about somebody who grows up in neighborhood where nobody goes to work, they live in a housing project where
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there's no examples of success, they don't acquire any of the habits. >> you should know better than that, newt. in fact, you do know better. i know, because i was there with you. newt, you and i traveled to inner city schools across the country to promote an education initiative back in 2009. you talked to these kids, newt. you know they are working hard. you know their parents are working hard. but as i said last night, newt's not alone. he's repeating the central principle of this mean-spirited republican party. protect the rich, attack the poor. >> they are getting unemployment and they are getting food stamps and they say, call me when unemployment runs out. we also have to realize, there are a lot of people gaming the system right now. >> our nation needs to stop
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doing for people what they can and do for themselves. self-reliance means, if anyone will not work, neither should he eat. >> if you don't have a job and you are not rich, blame yourself. >> corporations are people, my friend. we can raise taxes -- of course they are. >> republicans can't admit it but the poor are some of the hardest working people in america. 7.6 million people work for than one job. nearly 300,000 -- 300,000 hold down two-full-time jobs. they are working nights and weekends. 80 hours a week or more. just to make ends meet. 4.3 million people earn the federal minimum wage or less. that's $7.25 an hour. that's a yearly salary of $15,000. how do you feed a family with $15,000 a year? how do you feed a family when nobody's hiring? these people are being ridiculed and attacked by the republican
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party. nbc news has been collecting some of their stories all year long. watch. >> reporter: laid off as a building manager, the condo complex where he worked foreclosed. >> it's a nightmare. >> it's really hard. >> we're trying. we're trying. >> we've got to feed the kids. we've got to pay the bills. what is more important than to make $42 too much to make food stamps. >> i don't want to depend on people because i've always worked and since i was 15 with everything happening, the washing machine broke and the roof needed to be fixed. sometimes you've got to do what you've got to do. >> if it sounds like i'm angry about it, i am. because these people in many communities around this country, the working poor that are putting in more hours than some
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of those that the government bailed out after they went and did the economy in, now they have to be humiliated and insulted? do you know how hard it is to get up and do two jobs? do you know how hard it is to try to feed a family by stringing together minimum wages? do you know how hard it is to look at your children and they are looking at christmas lists that you can't provide? and then you go to bail out billionaires and spit in the face of the working poor? it's not fair. it's not right. and it shouldn't go unanswered. joining me now is congresswoman donna edwards, democrat for maryland and lee saunders, secretary treasurer of state county and municipal employees, the nation's largest union for public service workers. thank you for joining me. >> thank you. >> what does this say about the
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political seasons of all of the candidates slapping around people that can't defend themselves? >> you know, al, i'm outraged, too. you described it as a war. people that get up every day and go to work. and the poor in this country that want to take care of themselves. it's outrageous and nobody that says the thing that newt gingrich has said and other candidates have said deserve to be president of the united states. >> lee saunders, you represent the largest public service workers in the country in terms of the public sector. and you and i have known each other, worked together and marched together and you had an outstanding in ohio this year. public employees are the backbone of the middle class and the backbone of this country and yet they are aking like they are the ones that are getting a
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handout here rather than getting a hand in. >> well, we are getting ap ha handout. we are providing public services and yet we are being scapegoated by people like gingrich and saying that service is a big provider is not important. for him to suggest -- and it's even an outrageous suggestion -- for him to suggests that children can take the place of workers, of janitors in schools, it's just completely off the charts and he is living on a different planet. so what he's suggesting is that we're going to lay off the mothers and the fathers and employee the children and we are a better country than that. >> you know, congresswoman, he said that they live in housing developments and there's no one in the neighborhood that they show work ethic or symbols of success that work. i can take him to any number of
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housing developments anywhere you want in the country and you know what? at the time to go to work in the morning is the time you see people flooding out of the building. most people in these developments are going to work and trying to make ends meet. yes, they are bad elements in some of these communities. but they are not the only symbols in the community and they are the -- in many cases, the ones that the hardworking people are preyed upon. so for them to be victimized twice is to me, something that is beyond a pardonable sin. >> you and i both know that poor people in this country get up every single day and they go to work. they don't just go to work at one job, they go to work at multiple jobs. sometimes even their young children, who are teenagers, also work to help out the family. you know, the benefits that they described, the supplemental benefits, the food stamps that people receive, $134 a month for a family? let's see newt gingrich take
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$134 a month and buy bread and eggs and oatmeal and all of the things that it takes to feed a family. i know he couldn't do it. i challenge him to take $134 a month that food stamp recipients receive and go to the grocery store and buy his groceries and let's see how he gets along. he has no idea how poor people work so hard in this country and it's disgusting that he's chosen to attack them instead of going after the wealthiest 1% in this country and saying, it's time for you to pay your fair share. >> well, the wealthiest in the country can pay you $60,000 a speech but the poor people can't. but, lee, let me come back to you. i said earlier, i challenge newt gingrich -- i toured with newt gingrich and secretary duncan. we went to a school -- let me show you. we're here at a school in philadelphia in a city, poor neighborhood. these are the kids he's talking
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about. that's why i know he knows better. all of their parents worked. all of these kids had a work ethic and wanted to grow up to be somebody. how do i know? because newt and i talked to some of them. this is using the baiting of poor people and class warfare to play to the cheap margins of american politics. that's why i'm so mad and that's why you are right when you talk about public work instead of being scapegoated. these people know better than this. they are paying the people's basin stints to try to divide this country. >> that's right, al. we should be angry. we should be frustrated. but we need to challenge that anger to develop coalitions all across the country. and you and i have been traveling all across the country doing just that. we are laborers cominging toge, students, retire ees.
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what they are suggesting is to taking this country backwards rather than moving it forwards. we've got to speak out very loud and very clear and make our voices clear. >> congresswoman, if you look at the gop 2012 budget passed by the house in april 2011, two-thirds of the cuts, 2.9 trillion come from low-income programs. $2.9 trillion come from low-income programs like medicaid, food stamps, pell grants, low-income housing. it's war on the working class and working poor and on top of that i'm going toin sult you and say all you do is illegal things and you don't have a work ethic. >> well, that's right. when i heard the comments about crime, i mean, it's so disgusting. i mean, i see people every day and they just get up and they work hard and they try to take care of their families. i remember when i was in the same situation. did i like the idea that i had to go to a food papt tree to
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supplement my -- the food in my household for my son? i didn't like it. but i did it because i had to do it even though i was working every single day. that's what people do in this country and that's what they continue to do. and i just think americans know whether you're middle class or you're the working poor, you know how hard you work. and it's time for us to say enough of this attack on poor people and on the middle class in this country and it's time for us to take the argument back. >> well, lee saunders, i've been to oh cleveland with you, your native town where we've fought for workers together. you've come out of a working poor community and now you are one of the heads of the one of the largest union in the world, the largest in the country. this friday you and i have 25 cities mobilizing. we know better and we've got to do better as a country for these people, not demonizing these people that have been forced throughout outsourcing and layoffs that makes them a life that struggles when they ought
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to be living more in the abundance of this country. >> and that's why it's so important, al, that we are forming those coalitions and we are meeting with organizations all over this country. and we're saying that what these republicans are saying is absolutely wrong. it's vicious. it's outrageous. and we've got to fight back. we've got to organize like never before. the 2012 elections, what will be taking place in washington, d.c., across the street and in legislatures, we've got to be prepared like never before to vote to participate in that political process to this nonsense doesn't move forward. >> well, it seems like that's their strategy but our strategy is we are going to fight. we owe it to ourselves and we owe it to those that stand in need of a fair and balanced economic system. not those that talk fair balance where they beat on those that
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have made this country what it is. congresswoman edwards, lee saunders, thank you both for your time. >> thank you. ahead, in the face of all the republican roadblocks, the president's fight for jobs and working class is breaking through. we are going to make the dream that all americans share real once again. and that starts right now. it starts with you. but before you rejoice, the job killer himself, willard romney hits the spins. >> this is the slowest recovery we've seen since hoover. he's going to try to put a silver lining in a very dark cloud. poor willard. he's had a bad week. and long before the 99% movement, there was the ultimate wall street fighter. elizabeth warren. she's surging and the bankers are scared. we'll show you what they are doing. you're watching "politics
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extending the payroll tax holiday. >> we shouldn't help american workers unless we deal with entitlement. where was this fiscal responsibility when you were fighting for the bush tax cuts? but he's not the only one. last night the senate gop, the u.s. senate gop dropped the payroll tax cut that would have helped 160 million americans. every republican except one voted to protect millionaires and billionaires. this is what president obama is fighting against. >> congress needs to extend the payroll tax cut for working americans for another year. now is not the time to slam the brakes on the recovery. right now it's time to step on the gas. we need to get this done. and i expect that it's going to get done before congress leaves. otherwise, congress might not be
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leaving and we can all spend christmas here together. >> but his crusade to help this economy is working despite the efforts against him. look at this. we've had 21 straight months of private sector job growth. this is the best year for businesses since 2006. and now unemployment is below 9%. at its lowest since march of 2009. can you imagine where we'd be with republicans were actually interested in helping the economy? joining me now is hilda solis. where would we be if republicans had the pleasure of republicans working together to rebuild this economy? >> well, it sure would be nice if we could do what the president said and have everybody work together before the year's end to pass the payroll tax extension that will
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help 160 million families, not have to worry about paying higher taxes. in addition, saving those family, five million people, who would be cut off from unemployment insurance, unless we do something for next year. there would be a real dismal christmas and the year upcoming wouldn't look so hopeful. so i'm hoping that we can get people together. in fact, the president has worked very hard. last year at the same time, reverend, if you recall, the unemployment rate was 9.8%. >> right. >> and it has gone down and we have created well over three million private sector jobs in this economy on the average for 21 months. you could say that 160 private sector jobs have been created and you could not compare that in the bush administration where in his time we only created 11,000 jobs per month. >> how do you explain this to
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republicans? we're doing everything to them that seems like partisan politics. how do you deal with this, secretary solis? >> you know, i have to go straight to the people. i've been spending my time in neighborhoods, talking to people in community centers, at unemployment centers, people looking for jobs. and you know what, it is very important that we keep those people that have lost those jobs engaged and make sure that they come in for services and, number one, we have to extend the unemployment insurance. it puts food on the table, puts gasoline in their cars so they can go look for jobs. it keeps them on the road of recovery and that's what we need to do. today he was out with president clinton talking about making investments, talking about we can't wait for congress, making reductions in energy and modernizing our facilities and people that have been hit hard for the last two years back in work. except we've got to take care of
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that 1% of high-income earners that are not paying their fair share of taxes. >> it seems like they are active in blocking. look at all that the president has tried to do with the american jobs act, blocked. a bill for teachers and firefighters blocked. a payroll plan that kills 200,000 government jobs proposed. i mean, then when -- they can't even get their partisan spin together. let me show you what happens this morning when willard mitt romney tries to act as though this means nothing and they couldn't even get their talking points together on fox. >> what do you make of it? it's going to be a boost for barack obama, right? >> well, we've had three years of barack obama. it's the slowest recovery since president hoover. >> so we look at 8.6 but it's below 9% which is at least going
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in the right direction for the country. >> it's very good news, obviously, going into the holiday season, people are shopping again. very good news that the unemployment rate is down. >> somebody didn't get willard the memo. he said you can't put perfume on this pig. even the host there at fox said, it's going in the right direction and all of a sudden it was good news. i mean, do these people stop at anything when it comes to what helps people work? i mean, we know it's an election but, my god. >> the reality, reverend is that there was has been almost across the board and the only sector, and you know this, that we haven't seen recovery in construction and local and state government and that's what we have to do. continue to make sure that we help people, make those investments, get people trained up and don't allow people to be disengaged, that we keep them in the job market and looking. the other thing in this job
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report that may not be so revealing. there are a lot of people who have decided they are going to start their own businesses. >> right. >> and they are becoming entrepreneurs. they will also show up in our reports in a few months and we are going to see people creating their own jobs. >> we must also keep fighting because we still have challenges, african-american employment still at 15.5, which is up 11.4% among hispanics. so the fight is long. however, we're going in the right direction generally. we have specific areas we must fight but fight we must. secretary solis, thank you for coming on the show tonight. >> thank you, reverend, for the work you do. thank you. ahead, the banks are launching a new attack on elizabeth warren. but, don't worry, we're on to them. stay with us. all energy development comes with some risk,
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ask your dealer or go to carfax.com. just say, show me the carfax. folks, with less than five weeks to go to iowa, unwleef believe blee the gop is up for grabs. willard romney was the front-runner. the last five polls although gingrich ahead of romney and gingrich is getting cocky. >> i'm going to be the nominee. that's very hard to not look at the recent polls and think that the odds are very high that i'm going to be the nominee. >> romney is feeling the heat. today he went on the attack. >> to win the election, you've got to earn it. you've got to get out and win it. newt has had a very extensive long record of working in washington with various
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governmental and nongovernmental agencies. and i just don't think that's the background that is ideally one to lead the country. >> willard can lash out all he wants but more bad news is heading his way. herman cain says he will make a major announcement about the future of his campaign tomorrow. >> i am reassessing because of all of the media firestorm stuff. why? because my wife and family comes first. >> if cain drops out, it could be real bad for willard. cain is still pushing at 8 or 9%. now those voters might have to go somewhere else. joining me now, syndicated columnist and joe madison, host of "mornings with madison,"
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thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> bob, is is willard in more trouble than he expected? >> yeah, certainly. he was sort of hoping that he could have and the circular thing and each of them has a little bit of time in the sun. in the case of gingrich, he's not a novice and he's gotten traction right now, in addition to which, the first election up is not an election but a caucus. it's the first result we care about as iowa, which is an extremely conservative state. mitt romney is not going to do well, which presumably will mean that gingrich will get even more traction. >> now, joe, tomorrow herman cain is going to announce whether he is going to be the next step or not in his campaign. whether he stays in or if he drops out, what will the impact
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of his eight or nine polling points be in terms of how to fix the outcome of this race, which is now a gingrich-romney race? >> well, it also could end up going, some of those votes, to perry. this favors newt gingrich because once again we can see what newt is doing with his outlandish statements that you discussed in the program. he is appealing to that tea party crowd, to that base and that's what you have to do in a primary. now, it won't get him through the general election. >> well, that's what i want to know, joe. that's the problem. you've got to play to his base in the primary. >> right. >> but how does any one of these guys come out and really compete with president obama in a general election? what does this say about the whole crowd and how do they
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navigate through this primary season that you've outlined, i think accurately, but then have appeal for the broader american public to face the president, joe? >> look, i think if the democrats are smart -- and they are in this one -- they have enough sound bites to take them through the general election and it's all self-inflicted. that's exactly what's happening here. when they get through -- and they are putting these sound bites together now. you saw it with mitt romney. and it was very effective. it made him actually go on the defensive with the democratic party that he's not even running against at this point in time. >> now, bob, do you think that there is a strategy that makes sense for woman knromney in now that he is coming out and attacking newt? what does he do? >> well, i think what he does is panic.
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that's what we see happening right now. but he's probably going to have to get ready for a big fight and make sure that all of the information about newt, all of that gets out. and he's going to have to mix it up, which is not something that he's wanted to do and was able to get away with it for so long. and it's a possibility that and we're missing a point that we're going to do you think that he he plays contact and that's the way he plays. this is somebody that has built
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a career out of nasty politics and that's not about to change. >> well, i bet you you're going to see. and if i were advising mitt romney and, remember when you and newt gingrich were traveling the country together, al? >> yeah. >> if i were mitt romney, that's the photograph, that's the tape that i would show. he's got to make newt gingrich look like he's more of a flip-flopper than mitt romney as a flip-flopper. and he's got plenty to do it with. >> he's flipped now on the kids that we toured to do it with. >> absolutely. >> you're in the advice business. herman cain has gone home tonight. if he's watching, what advice would you give herman cain? >> oh, take a large piece of jewelry to your wife and ask her for your forgiveness. forget about the presidential campaign. you've got a 43-year marriage that you've got to keep together
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and quite honestly, i don't think anything on the planet is more important than that. >> bob, what advice would you give to willard? >> well, hope that herman cain stays in the race and whatever his wife says, this candidacy is over. as a candidate, he's a dead man talking. really, he is. >> let me say to both of you, new york headlines says, romney cannot steal the deal with the gop establishment and republican leaders still seem torn about romney. does that mean that they can say, better works rs we're going to have to go with newt gingrich? >> no. >> i think there's a lot of that conversation right now. don't you, joe? newt gingrich has been the champion of the party before. he's making sort of a richard nixon sort of resurrection here. >> can gingrich win iowa and
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then someone like from the bottom tier use that and come later and try to be the stop gingrich guy? >> well, remember now, mitt romney is not really campaigning hard in iowa. he pretty much gave iowa up. now, if newt gingrich comes close, even close second in new hampshire, he's well on his way because then we do what? we go south. and that's his strong point. so, yes, that's a very good possibility. but then, you know, i think the white house is chopping at the bits to be able to run against newt gingrich. >> for the franken and joe madison, we're out of time. thank you very much. both of you have a good weekend. >> thank you. shocking new numbers in the race everyone is watching in massachusetts. and the latest right wing attack against the muppets. i wish i was kidding. stay with us.
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her name, elizabeth warren. she came up with the idea of the consumer protection bureau. she fought against corporate greed and she's taken that passion to run for senator in massachusetts. republicans take note, she's surging. new numbers just out show that she's ahead of incumbent scott brown by four points. just three months ago she was down by nearly 20 points. wall street is noticing and they are scared. why? because elizabeth warren is not afraid to hammer scott brown for being a 1% guy. the securities industry gave brown a million dollars last time he ran and center for public integrity wrote k street and wall street line up behind senator scott brown in his race against elizabeth warren. quote, in overdrive to raise millions more because warren's
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campaign is off to a fast start. it's clear, warren's message is working and wall street is preparing to take her down. joining me now, contributing editor and democracy journal adam green, co-founder campaign committee, his group raised more than half a million dollars for elizabeth warren. thanks to both of you joining me tonight. how scared is wall street of elizabeth warren? >> they are pretty scared and they have reason to be. the republicans and wall street see warren as the best chance for democrats and progressives to take a stand against this out of control capitalism that's been a problem for a long time. before she even announced that
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republicans told harvard to stop paying her. once she announced her candidacy, they started calling her an economist. they see in her a vision of government of the sort that democrats and republicans and parties haven't really made in a long time. >> now, adam, when we look at when wall street has given brown a -- let's look at this chart. from fid dealt, goldman sachs, barclays, paulson and company, it's clear that they have lined up previously in the line behind brown and now they have even more of an incentive. how has miss warren countered this? >> the best way to fight corporate power is with people power. there is a hunger out there for some leader to step up and say that wall street should be held accountable and i'm proud to
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announce that progressive change campaign committee members have over $535,000 from elizabeth warren. and that's less than $25 a pop. >> this is the first time you've announced this and you've raised $535,000 mostly in $20 contributions? >> that's absolutely right. >> wow. >> that's because she's inspiring people across massachusetts and across the nation with her message that nobody got rich by themselves. we need to pay it forward to the next kid to give them a chance and i'm going to put the middle class next to ask wall street to be accountable and it's a model for all. >> when you look at the polling, it shows that warren is especially popular with middle and lower class voters. >> right. >> with middle class voters, people making between 40 and 100
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k. 48% of the vote for warren and 37% for brown. for the lower class, warren is at 42% and brown is at 27%. 15-point margin. that says a lot. >> it says for 40 or 50 years the republicans and the conservatives have made a concerted effort to diminish government. warren, however, has made a very strong case for the role of government in policing us and giving us roads to drive on and schools to educate our children. in a way that few other politicians, frankly, have. so i think a lot of people see in warren what's been missing from the political scene and she speaks to people that don't feel that they have gotten a fair shake, despite playing by the rules and working hard. warren says, i'll going to fight for you. i'm going to defend the role of
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government in a free society. >> now, showing what you say as accurate, when she made that statement that no one got rich on their own, nobody got rich on their own, it was viewed 800,000 times. it resonated it people. and, of course, they come after her. karl roves, cross roads, spend $600,000 making thissed a trying to make it look back. look at this, ethan, and give me your response. >> elizabeth warren sides with extreme left protests at occupy wall street protesters attack police, do drugs, and trash public parks. they support radical redistribution of wealth and violence but warren boasts, i created much of the intellectual foundation for which they do. >> ethan? >> last i checked, that ad was
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on youtube 30,000 times whereas warren's speech in defenseless government, an off the cuff speech was viewed upwards of 800,000 times. people are sick and tired of karl roves crash and burn politics. elizabeth warren on her own has made a simple straightforward case for government. >> let me show you that ad that was viewed over 800,000 times because people on the right were acting as if rich people all of a sudden created this wealth alone and elizabeth warren stood up and said this. >> there is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. nobody. a built a factory out there, good for you. but i want to be clear, you moved your goods on the road to market that the rest of us paid for. you hired workers that the rest
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of us paid to educate. you built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great idea. god bless. keep a big hunk of it. but part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along. >> now, adam, i, again, repeat, that was viewed over 800,000 times. i suspect it had a lot to do with that 535,000 that you announced here that you raised. people want someone that will say that. >> they do. that inspires so many people. when that video came out, it raised about $100,000 for elizabeth warren. we sent around karl rove's ad to our members and it raised another $100,000 for elizabeth warren. the best way to fight corporate power is with people power.
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there's a lot of dots here that deserve connecting. it's not an accident that elizabeth warren is seeing her rise at the same time that middle class people are and bank of america was forced to cave on their fees. >> i have to cut in, adam. congratulations. thank you, ethan. thanks for your time. have a great weekend. i have to go to a hard break. we'll be right back. [ sniffs ] i have a cold. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't treat that. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ deep breath] awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is.
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