the whole shebang. that's "rdball" no now. "politics nation" withal sharpton starts right now. >> president obama goes after the gop, and refuses to back down on the fight for fairs in. elizabeth warren rising, this middle class warrior, and block the vote. tonight, where's the fraud fallout from my interview with the florida republican who couldn't or wouldn't answer the key question. has there been widespread voter fraud in florida? >> i don't think we want to wait until voter fraud. >> you're saying you're doing this because -- welcome to politics nation. i'm al sharpton.

today republicans had two chances to do the right thing. two chances to help the 34idle class and ask the rich to do their fair share. the republicans failed both times. the president called them out on it. >> we either have a country where everybody fences for themselves, or we create a country where everybody has their fair share, creates a fair chance, and we assure fair play. >> fair play must be a tough concept for republicans to grasp. time and again today they fought against it. 44 republican senators filibustered the appointment of richard cordray to head up an agency aimed at helping consumers. those 44 republicans represent these states. apparently they think people in their states don't need someone on their side. apparently they think their

constituents want banks to run wild. just look at the great state of maine. both these senators voted for financial reform, but today susan collins voted against cordray. and olympia snowe, she didn't even vote yes or no. she voted present how's that's for a profile in courage? >> we're not going to allow them to stand in the way of american consumers being protected by sun scrupulous financial operators. what they need to do is be focused on what's good for the economy, what's good for jobs and what's good for the american people. >> republicans should be focused on what's good for the american people but they are not.

because of attacks on 345,000 millionaires, and republicans in the house are no better. they're calling for a payroll plan that would reduce unemployment benefits by 40 weeks. 40 weeks. how is that looking out for the 99%? i hope they like christmas in washington. if republicans don't change their ways, that's what they're going to get. >> get it done. and if not, you know, maybe we'll have a, you know, a white christmas here in washington. and i look forward to spenting a lot of time with you guys. >> joining me from the north lawn of the white house, valerie jarrett, assistant to president obama. ms. jarrett, thanks as always. >> my pleasure, reverend.

how are you this evening? >> great. >> good. >> republicans keep blocking nominees, recently a circuit court judge. it's almost as if they left the president with no options other than to use recess appointments. is that what they're trying to force him to do? >> as the president said today, he's not precluding any options available to him. he's determined to get rich cordray confirmed. we still have plenty of time this year for congress to act and to approve hem. says 23 days and counting. and the president said today emphatically we're not going to go home on vacation until we act on those important measures. the middle class, it's a make-or-break time for them. they can't afford to wait. congress needs to act.

>> if we would lessen from 99 weeks by 40 weeks the unemployment insurance, i mean, this is absolutely saying we don't care about working-class people. if you want us to give them some money, we're going to lessen those forced onto unemployment insurance. >> that doesn't make any sense at all. as the president said in kansas a couple days ago, what we have seen over the last several years is those at the high income level are earning more money, their investments are growing exponentially, why, reverend sharpton, everybody else is being left behind. this is a country where, you know, no matter where you come from, no matter what your background, you can -- if you're innovative and work hard, you can succeed. people are beginning to feel that american dream is falling away from them. so in this economic time, as tough as things are we need to make sure we are looking out for people. you've talked often on this show

about this pledge that the republicans have taken, that near not going to let any taxes go up, that's why they're fighting so hard what about everything else? they'll take $1500 out of the hard-working americans? not even extending last year's plan? that will cost average americans $1,000 next year. do you know how many groceries that can buy? how many presents for their children? my goodness, just the essentials of life. they're prepared to just walk away. the president said today, no, he's going to hold them here, he's going to say forget vacation. how can we go on vacation when people are struggling so hazard. >> so the president has said that he is willing to stay there, keep them there, we've got to deal with this payroll tax cut, there are vital things

that american people need, and how can american people go over the holidays not knowing where and how congress will vote on things that are so vital. >> exactly. he's going to demand that congress stay right here, stay here to the bitter end. you can't imagine how people can go on vacation knowing what will happen on -- as the payroll tax, which is going to take $1,000 out of their pocket. >> some people say why didn't we get a lot done when the president and the democrats controlled everything, but we had record filibustering before we lost the 60 votes in the senate, then when you lost the 60 votes in the senate to make it veto-proof, then all of a sudden, everything the president

proposed was blocked almost from every almost from a federal judge nomination for appointments. so it really was always a battle between the congress, the senate and the president since he got in office. >> both the senate, ball we don't have 60 votes in the senate and the house, have done everything they can, the republicans on both sides, to stop the president's agenda, to slow down all of his confirmations. every president deserves to have a team in place. they at least deserve an up-and-down vote. why would you filibuster, for example, today on rich cordray. he has bipartisan support from attorneys general around the country, a u.s. conference of mayors right there appreciating what he would do to look out for consumers who need some protection. does everybody have amnesia about what happened when very few took risks, with a cascading impact around this country, touching millions of americans?

don't they deserve a consumer financial protect bureau headed with somebody with the outstanding qualifications to look on the for the consumer every day? not a filibuster, until there's a director in place. time is wasting. congress needs to move forward. the republicans need to come on board and do their job. >> white house senior adviser, valerie jarrett, thank you again for coming on the show tonight. >> you're welcome. i got all worked up. anytime.

>> i'm glad you keep getting worked up. >> thank you, sir. coming up president obama's response to republicans who attack him on foreign policy. >> ask osama bin laden and the 22 out of 30 top al qaeda leaders who have been taken off the field whether i engage in appeasement. elizabeth warren is running high and riding even higher, and the 1% is running scared. and a sneak preview at willard's secret plan to take down newt. you're watching "politics nation" on -- with al sharpton on msnbc. [ male announcer ] cranberry juice? wake up! ♪ that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm [ male announcer ] for half the calories -- plus veggie nutrition. could've had a v8.

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>> we are in a make-or-break moment. we either have a country where everybody fences to themselves or we create a country where everybody does their fair share, everybody has a fair chance. >> americans agree with him. 76% say the economy is out of balance and favors the rich. joining me is bill press, host of "the bill press show" on sirius/xm, and alicia menendez, a senior adviser for the new democrat network. thank you both for joining me. >> hi, reverend al, good to see you. >> bill, let's start with you. >> reverend, i said bravo. i cheered.

they had planned all along to paint him as soft on terror. it ain't going to work. i think we showed today if we try, the president will fire right back at them. it's not just osama bin laden, it's gadhafi, an what al awlaki. this guy has proven he's as tough as nails. by the way, they never complained when george bush used the 9/11 argument over and over and over again. so i think president obama, he shot one across their bow today, and said don't even try that. >> alicia, is it that they have the only play book and just don't know how to catch up with today's -- they're playing a song that's outdated? 77 poresr% of americans agree with the way he's hasn't

iraq. and also agree with the way he's handled sanctions against iran. so, across the board you have a presidency that has been surprisingly success of when it comes to foreign policy. republicans are used to this being the sweet spot. they're not going to hit him here. >> the priorities usa is at this timing republicans in a new spot targeting iowa voters for supporting taxing the middle class instead of 9 wealthy, and it feat furse a special guest appearance from a very respected republican. watch this. >> they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing while a about us driver was paying 10% of his salary. that's crazy. do you think the millionaire ought to pay more? >> he supported millionaires paying their fair share. don't you? >> this is an interesting spot with iowa voters, bill, what do you think? >> i think it's a great spot on

the part of priorities usa and bill burton. this is a week for channeling republicans. president obama was channeling teddy roosevelt out in tex texas a couple days, when he called for a progressive income tax and called for cracking down on the courses, and he called for fairness, fairness and talked about what a problem this income and equality is in the country at that time. now they're showing that even ronald reagan talked about fairness and how unfair it is that the millionaires are paying a lower rate of taxes than the people that work for them. the argument that warren buffett has made. i think president obama has found the issue, particularly when he can back that up with teddy roosevelt and ronald reagan, take this all the way to the bank. >> let them bank teddy roosevelt and ronald reagan from now until november. but alisha, they are attacking the president from across the board.

>> he is seeking to reaccomplice our merit-based society with an entitlement society. >> really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working. what if they became assistant janitors and their job was to mop the floor and clean -- >> and they take the risks in in -- they employ and lift of rest of us, creating prosperity po all of us. >> these are the two top guys. if the primaries were concluded tonight, or concluding tonight, one of those two would be facing president obama. how do we deal with this kind of illogic, but consistent kind of

attacks that the leading candidates are launching at the president. >> the beauty is they're not just launching attacks. they're launching attacks against all of us who don't include ourselves in the 1%. for so long they got the economic -- and that was an easy conversation. now it's turning to what the government can do to everyday americans. versus the interests. that's a conversation that works in democrats' favor. if i was president obama's team, i would allow them to wield as many attacks as they wanted. >> you know, reverend, it's not

injure illogic. they're outright lies, and i think president obama is out there scoring, because he's telling the truth. if i can, just a second say we have seen a dramatic reversal. the republicans were in charge, democrats are floundering, and all the democrats are talking jobs. and the republicans are panicked and floundering. >> and a lot is the activism will continue. we have 25 cities organized tomorrow. alicia, and bill press, thank you both for your time. >> reverend al, good to see you. ahead, trump the shark. another republican standing up to the donald. his lame excuse -- i'm on a bus tour. ahead, willard goes on offense. we obtained an e-mail from the

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looks like donald trump's first gig as debate moderator may also be his last. today rick perry became the

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welcome back to "politics nation." we all knew it was only a matter of time. now the attacks is under way. willard romney launched his offensive against newt gingrich. nbc news obtained an e-mail sent to supporters on capitol hill. it details new talking points. calling it, quote, right-wing social engineering. he had no real-world economy

experience. he creates theories, mitt creates jobs, and mitt romney is the only candidate who can beat barack obama. and romney's getting personal, his new ad is fill with shots of his family life, marriage, and direct slam at newt's character flaws. he's also unleashing his top attack dogs. here ace chris christie in iowa last night. >> politics can be talk to fake a lot of things. you can't fake that. this is someone who i have come to know that has an extraordinary heart. he loves his wife, he loves his children, first and foremost, you say, is this the kind of person wo will always make me proud? i never will have to worry about embarrass america, will do something that just will make me ashamed. he just won't. >>. today the romney team

painting newt as a fake conservative. can newt handle the heat? joining me now, bob shrum, and jonathan capehart, opinion writer for "the washington post," and msnbc contributor. great to have you both here tonight. >> great to be here. >> will the attack plan work? this is getting down to the wire, very serious for willard. it's going to be a big gangup on gingrich, not only with these ads, but in that debate, and in the coming weeks. w50e8 find out whether he's made of teflon. i think he speaks to the heart of republicans, their emotions and romney had no choice to attack him, because he's built up -- the difficulty, i think is that romney doesn't have a case to make to himself. the case he's making is he's the

one who's electable. so i think he's got a realty mountain to climb here. >> jonathan, when you look at this, when newt gingrich was on "meet the press" this is what he said about the ryan plan. >> do you think that republicans ought to buck the public opposition and really moved forward to completely change medicare? >> i don't think right-wing social engineering is any more desirable han left-wing social engineering. >> now, the romney camp sent out this press release attacking newt for his comment. the release clear slid so are we going to see, now, jonathan, romney trying to make himself the authentic conservative go after mr. gingrich as the

convenient conservative that can't be trusted? will that by sold to people that have seemingly so far throughout the process not trusted romney as one of their owns in terms of those that are in the conservative arm of the republican party? >> look, there's a reason why mitt romney is latching on to what he said. remember, the moment that newt gingrich said that to david gregory about the paul ryan budget, all hell broke loose. people on capitol hill, die-hard conservatives turned on newt and asked what on earth are you doing 1234 this is the main vehicle, the main opposition, legislative vehicle that they were going to use against president obama, and he just -- he trashed it. he just -- he spit all over it. so to remind people of why they got angry with newt gingrich in the first place i think is one of the many things that mitt romney is now doing to try to pull -- basically pull down newt

gingrich from the massive leads, as bob was just, you know, pointing out, the massive leads that newt has built up just in a matter of a couple weeks over mitt romney. >> well, but jonathan is saying that's one of the many things he's trying, but when they asked newt about it today, bob, this is what he said, no big thing. >> i'm going to stay positive, i'm going to talk about how we solve the country's problem and i have one opponent, barack obama, and that's how our campaign will keep moving forward. >> do you think he's attacking you on a personal level or though? >> no, no, he's fine. >> he's fine, i'm running against barack obama. >> i think he looks uncharacteristically adult. everybody bricked he would blow up, implode, step in it. that response is pitch-perfect. jonathan is right. mitt romney is now reduced to an

argument that says the other guy is worse than i am. maybe you don't trust me, but you can't trust him, either. i don't think that argument will gain traction. i think these folks believe that newt gingrich is a conservative. by the way, he is a conservative, and his criticism is something he's walked back long ago. you notice this time when romney puts that out there, there's not much of a reaction. they look at this guy leading and they're not sure what's going to happen. >> look at this new poll. gingri gingrich, romney -- ohio 36, romney 18. 31%, 17% for romney. i mean, everybody poll gets worser and worser, as we say, for the willard. you know, i don't know whered bottom is. he keeps dropping. >> right. he keeps dropping. here'sed one silver lining that

there is no mitt romney. newt gingrich is trying to build the plane as he's flying it the operation is nearly not where it should be, as compared to mitt romney's. so i think what the romney folks are hoping for is that, because newt gingrich doesn't have the campaign apparatus that he needs, he'll stumble. that's why you're seeing these attacks from mitt romney and surrogates, i think it was jim talon today and john sununu, going after substance and policy, but talking about his character, his leadership abilities, the chaos that engulfed the capitol when he was the speaker. they're hoping to bring that mean down.

michele bachmann has officially said she's not not going to -- mr. trump only has mr. gingrich and mr. san storm. is this the uncrowning of the donald? he can't get everybody to the debate clearly because of him. does this take away a lot of perceived influence? >> sure. to get attention, santorum would go to the opening of a can. newt gingrich is going to this debate, because he believes donald trump will endorse him, and you know what? he probably is. >> bob shrum and jonathan capehart, thank you very much. >> thank you. ahead karl rove launches a new attack on elizabeth warren. radio superstar michael bay is here to talk about warren's

fight for fairness. and you've been flooded with e-mails and tweets all day about my interview with this florida rep who sponsored a radical voter law. >> we have accountability. we're not going to wait for fraud. government's all the time accused of waiting until there's a big problem. we don't need that. >> now waiting for fraud is not what we're doing? huh? not waiting for fraud. they call it suppression. we'll talk about that tonight. our block the vote series continues next. all energy development comes with some risk, but proven technologies allow natural gas producers to supply affordable, cleaner energy, while protecting our environment. across america, these technologies protect air - by monitoring air quality and reducing emissions... ...protect water - through conservation and self-contained recycling systems...

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inch i don't think we want to wait. we've reviewed the process, we're going to have very close elections in florida. >> what? i tried it again. >> for credibility in the election we have to have credibility results in the election. >> okay. so voting fraud was not a problem. now we're getting somewhere. in fact, there were 31 cases of alleged voting fraud in three years in florida. more than 18 million votes were cast in that period. that's 0.0002%. he did try to use one example to claim a larger problem. >> did you know mickey mouse registered to vote last time? >> really? sorry. that absurd claim has already been checked out. the verdict -- false. >> orange county election

officials rejected the application, so mickey was never officially registered to vote. so, mr. baxley, the only thing mickey mouse was, was your argument, and if that was your argument, it was a very poor one. but baxley's worst moment came when i asked him this. >> state senator michael bennett justified the law with this line. he says voting is a hard-fought privilege. this is something people died for. why should we make it easier. i mean, what do you mine why should you make it easier? we're supposed to live in a democracy? why should we be making it harder? >> we want people to participate in the total process. go ahead a register so we get all of the registration. we're not stopping them from voting. >> the law will stop people from voting. this week i spoke to congressman lewis about this nationwide

voter suppression effort. he knows something about the effort. he wall street nearly beaten to death marching about it. >> one person,/one vote, that's part of our democratic process, part of our democracy, and now people want to make it hard, difficult, with photo i.d.s in early voting. we cannot go back. we've come too far. people suffered too hard, and too many of our people bled and died for the simple right to cast a vote. >> we won't go back. that's why tomorrow in 25 cities national action sunset work and labor unions are marching against the injustice of voter suppression and for jobs. we intend to keep the pressure on. joining again tonight is deidra mcnabb. here to responsible to some of representative baxley's comments.

>> good evening, reverend. >> representative baxley made pretty big claims about your group. i want to play them to you. you're sitting here talking as if it doesn't matter. >> i don't know exactly how nonpartisan they are. >> oh, really? >> that's right. >> so the league of women voters are not nonpartisan? >> that's what their title is, but i don't see them functioning that way. most of the things they advocate are very much in line with the democratic party. >> so are you accusing them of being partisan? >> they are very partisan. you. >> is the selig a partisan group? >> thank you for the question. we would tell representative baxley and any others that for 92 years, the league of women voters has been cited as one of the most trusted not-for-profit organizations in the world for

their provision of information to voters, for 92 years our members have volunteers to make democracy easier and bring -- and for 92 years we have never endorsed a candidate, and never endorsed a party. i think what we saw last night was old oldest tactics in politics, to try to move listeners away from the substance of the issue. 9 substance of the issue is an attack on our voting rights, all people, all parties, and this is something that the league of women voters will not allow to stand. we are fighting it in the courts. >> tell us how. what is the basis of the lawsuit the league of women voters have against the state of florida? >> light now, we are a codefendant with the department of justice the secretary of

state moved the four worth parts rather than having it cleared, and we have entered -- intervened in the case along with, i might add, some of our supervisors of election in the state of florida, who are both republican and democrat to fight what we believe is not in the best interests and is going to damage florida citizens' access and ease of being ability to cast their vote. >> now, could this law be blocked before the next election? can this lawsuit that you have fried injoin this law? what is the possibility of stopping this law from going into effect that would affect the 2012 election? >> right now we're taking it step by step through the judicial process. the first step is with the process of clearance and so we are in the first step. we will see where we go to next, but you can be sure that the

league of women voters and other organizations that care about access to voting in our state are going to be putting out all the tools and fight that we can to make sure that florida voters have untrampled access to their voting rights. question believe it's the single-most essentially right in this country, the right that protects all other rights. it transcends all party lines, and we urge those people who are listening to -- if they agree that this is un-american and unacceptable, that they let their legislators and congress people know. this is not just happening in florida, as you have been telling your listeners. so people who are watching, who are concerned about it, and i hope they are, they need to pick up the telephone tomorrow and they need to let their elected officials knows that trying to tamper with our most precious right in this country is absolutely un-american and unacceptable.

>> i've got to go. i think you're right, and i hope people will do that and join us all over the country. deidra macnab, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. tomorrow night we finish our "block the vote" series with john lewis. as i mentioned, he nearly died marches for voter right in 1965. straight ahead the middle-class fighter is surging. she's in command and karl rove is attacking. talk radio superstash on why the warren message is resonating. [ male announcer ] drinking a smoothie with no vegetable nutrition?

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finally tonight, the fight for fairness is sweeping the country, way before occupy movement took off, elizabeth warren was talking about the 99%. she was never afraid to stand up

to banks and fought tirelessly for consumer protection. that fight has her surging in the massachusetts senate polls -- senate race polls that shows her ahead of scott brown by seven points. the republican establishment is scared. karl rove's group has a bog news new attack ad out today. >> i'm going to be a void in the room on behalf of middle-class families. >> really? congress had warren oversee how your tax dollars were spent, bailing out the same banks, bailouts that helped pay big bonuses to bank executives while middle-class americans lost out. >> painting her as a bank supporter? they should be scared. joining me is author nationally syndicated radio host, all-around superstar. >> thank for the introduction, rev, how are you done? >> i'm great.

karl rove is going after elizabeth warren. the republicans must be birdie. i listen to you, and you go from hard party and fun to serious stuff, and you've got dealing with this question of fairness, economic justice, and you've been supporting the message of elizabeth warren a long time. >> i love elizabeth warren. i think she's the model of what we want, forthright, passionate, and i don't know if you saw the youtube video that she had out, when she talked about how, if you're rich, take your money, take a large bit, but don't forget you didn't get rich by yourself. that's the inspiration for donating. i didn't get here by myself and you didn't get here by yourself. so she's been a huge inspiration. >> they got 800,000 youtube hits on that. >> how about that? newt gingrich said this

xw -- well, let's -- it's the opposite of ms. warren. let's show it. really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working, and have nobody around them who works. so they literally have no habit of showing up on monday. they have no habit of, i do this and you give me cash. unless it's illegal. >> now, i met your mom, i know your story, you talk in more of these households in the afternoon than about anybody. how do you respond? >> let me tell you how i feel. your colleague, crist matthews is great on this. he says it's a clown show, but these irscary clowns, rev. they're very scary, and they're for real, but i think in the end, if we think about what this country has never done. i don't care if we have differences on abortion or immigration, we've never elected anybody who was crazy, right? these guys are crazy to me.

when you all are doing television, when we're watching at home, you no el what we're thinking? these guys are crazy. i think you have to be crazy if you say it's wrong to have taxes on the poor, not 09 rich. you've got to be crazy if you were a guy who's the actual leader of the republican party now, and -- you didn't show this part, by the way, that he's trying to keep our children from becoming pimps and prostitutes. we got millions of hit on my facebook page. it's offensive and it's crazy. do you think any of these guys can give the president a hashed time? >> i'm not worried about it. i'm not saying in a sense of being overconfident, but i believe this country will never elect anybody that's that crazy. chris rock says it best, crazy, deranged, because what they're doing is very deranged. for you and i we want to be careful not to have our people too zealous or overconfident, but we're never going to eye

electric guys like this. i'm completely confident it will never happen. on october 15th you helped us lead the march for jobs. >> sorry for walking on the back of your shoes, by the way. >> that's all right. tomorrow we're going to keep going. i want people to now you not only the radio superstar, led the march, and you're out there putting your -- your feet to the fire. >> yeah. >> getting it done. but it is xleclearly coming dowo a fight for people that believe in fairness and -- >> we're going to win. i'm going to say that to you, to all my listeners, to the people watching your program. we're going to win. i was talking to ed schultz in the back. >> that's mild mentor. >> he reminds me so much of myself, and you can see the frustration with ed, going these guys are really scary. that's the term you hear people use, they're scary, and i think in the end we're not going to