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a marine violates the code and now faces a murder charge. a would-be soccer mom takes up with a violent streak. >> i didn't look in the back. i didn't want to see the body. >> an openly gay inmate adheres to the common code and pays the price. >> i told you what we saw on camera, right? >> a former karate instructor is charged with a fatal act of arson. >> it was just five minutes, whatever in time, that kind of ruined everything. and a young inmate goes home to the father who had him arrested. >> you better hope to god they do not let me come nowhere near you. i swear to god i will knock
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every [ bleep ]. >> over the years of producing "lockup" we've interviewed hundreds of inmates in various prisons and jails. really their stories break down into two broad categories. the first, inmates that brag about their heinous crimes and leave no doubt as to why they're behind bars. but the second and more puzzling category is the one where you kind of wonder, how did someone like you get into so much trouble. >> during our extended stay shoot at the orange county jail, we met more than one inmate who provoked that question, including a marine who valued strength above most other qualities. >> i grew up in strong island new york. that's the name we call long island. i was also going to get strong island on my back. i decided to switch it up and just get strong land. we breed strong men in long island, pretty much. and everywhere we go, pretty much let everybody know we're from long island, you know what i mean?
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>> even though christian karney was facing the most serious charges, he still approached his workout routine with all the discipline of the marine he once was. while we have witnessed many in-cell workouts before, it was what karney did afterwards that caught our attention. >> question. you're flexing. why are you flexing? >> every time i work out a specific muscle group, i'll flex it immediately after. it's called iso tension. everything i've learned i've learned from arnold swe schwarzenegger, his books. he was very big in body building. he's my hero. i'm going to do what he does. >> along with condition, he kept up maintaining a clean shaven head at almost any price. >> we filmed christian shaving his head, imseemed to go on forever. i don't know if it was the fact that his razor was so dull or
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the fact that he had no shaving cream, but it just turn eed inta bloody mess. >> it's part of the jail experience. did i miss any spots? >> make sure you get that. # yeah. >> i'm fine. >> what's that? >> make sure you don't get infected, you know. >> when christian applied the after shave to his head, there was an uncomfortable laughter among all of us. we knew if it was us we would be screaming in pain. but, he went about it as if it was nothing. you can see that he was sucking it up, and i think that's what made us laugh a little bit, because we knew deep inside he really felt it. >> but at the time of our extended stay shoot, he was awaiting trial, charged with the murder of a fellow marine. he had pled not guilty. but prosecutors say that kearney
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acquired a large sum of money by dealing drugs to other marines. his alleged victims stole the money, and when kaerney found out, he and his co-defendant drove to a remote area and shot him four times. >> hen when this case kind of blew up, i was looked at as number one enmy of the marine corps. you know what i mean? since he was in jail awaiting trial for the murder charge, he would not discuss the allegations. in a separate case he was already convicted and sentenced to six years for dealing drugs to other marines, and that was a topic he was willing to discuss. >> i'll tell you right now, marines are going to do drugs. they're just like everybody else. you got 18-year-old kids coming in, college age. you know what i mean? some of them have never drank or anything like that in their lives. first time away from their parents. they're going to screw around, you know. and maybe it's not the best
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thing, you know torks , to be p mag reens with that. not saying that's what i did, but that's what they charged me with. maybe they're going to go into a dangerous area to get it. the at least they get it from somebody they know. they know it's safe. they know it's reliable. believe you me, marines are going to do drugs. they're going to do it. >> because i was in the navy for ten years and christian kearney was a marine, we did have an initial bond, and it did honestly rub me the wrong way because i feel like when you take an oath of honor and courage and commitment, you need to stand behind the code of the united states marine corps. and to see him justifying his actions as far as the drug use and the drug dealing, it diz bother me. it did bother me. >> in our final interview with kearney who served seven months and iraq, he once again spoke
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more like a marine than a convicted drug dealer and murder suspect. >> since i've been in jail i've been reduced to living out of a paper bag, i've recognized my potential. this has enabled me to recognize my potential. and i believe that sometimes in order to come up strong, you have to be put down as far as you can go. you have to be pushed to the absolute limit that you can be pushed, and to see if that's going to destroy you, or if you're going to rise above that and become better because of it. and that's the true test of a man. >> serving time for drug dealing and facing a murder charge, may not be what you would expect for a battle tested marine with a seemingly bright future, but inside the orange county jail, kaerney wasn't the only inmate who appeared to live a dual life. >> they want to kill me. if i was going to go prison i have to go to administrative segregation because if i went to general population, they would kill me. we're paying for all spill related clean-up costs.
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these are cracker bolts. it's a racist thing. >> every one of these got a story behind it. >> while many of the male inmates we meet in the course of shooting lockup wear their past crimes or notorious affiliations on their bodies in ink, the majority of female inmates rarely give any hints in their physical appearance about the details of their past or the uncertainties of their futures. on our first day of shooting at the orange county jail in southern california, we interviewed a young mother who served as a prime example. >> can you tell me your name and thousand to spell it, please? >> julie. shanaoltzer. >> on the first day of our extended stay shoots, we don't generally conduct extensive
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interviews. we try to meet people. while we were doing this we saw julie shanaoltzer. she stood out. >> you're not allowed to shower unless i'm in the shower with you. yeah. >> and that prompted us to go and speak to her. >> you look like a california girl. you look like a beach bunny. >> that's what i want to be. one day. i don't dress weird. i dress like a mom. i want to be going to school to be a pastor. i found that drive in me now, and i'm so happy and proud of myself that i haven't changed my appearance. i think i've gotten used to seeing the girl next door coming in. they make mistakes. they can't function out there. i've been a deputy for nine years, and i've known inmate
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shaholtzer throughout my whole career. she's been in and out for various crimes. and now she's in for a violation. but she's always been a model inmate. very respectful. follows through the rules. gets along with others. >> it was difficult to align julie's appearance and personality with her past, which included prior incarcerations, drug use, ties to a notorious gang, a brush with murder, and motherhood. >> i have three daughters that are adopted by their grandmother. and i have a beautiful little boy. >> how long has it been since you've seen your daughters? >> why is that? >> because i can't stay in jail for over a year. once i'm out of jail for a year, then i will slowly try to work myself back into their lives. this is not who i wanted to be. this is not what i wanted to be, but addiction is a gnarly,
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gnarly thing. >> open the door. >> a year earlier shanoltzer was given a six-year suspended service, placed on parole after pleading guilty to possession of a controlled substance. when she failed to attend the drug program, the judge reinstated her six-year sentence. >> thank you. but shanoltzer said she had taken her recovery into her own hands. >> i got clean and sober. got my first job. a member of my church. i'm learning how to drive. i'm 30 years old. i don't know how to drive. i'm going to school and i'm doing everything i can, and i finally got sick and tired of being on the run. and i turned myself in. i turned myself in with 36 members of my church with me, and i still got six years. >> her latest troubles paled in comparison to her past run-ins with the law. in her early 20s she befriended
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members of a notorious street gang. >> i hooked up with them because i did drugs. you do drugs and meet all kinds of walks in life. >> so you weren't in the gang? >> no. >> you were just doing drugs? >> dating a couple of them. >> one night some of her friends from the gang told her to take a ride with them in the truck, in the back was one of their victims, a decomposing three day old corpse. shanoltzer says she was used to make others look less suspicious. >> i don't look the part of the white supremacy gang. and i did. i got in the truck. somebody tells you -- some guy with tattoos all over the place to get in the truck and you smell the body. you know it's in there and you don't go, no, never mind, i don't think so. i'm going to go home. you go and say okay and you pray to god there's going to be a chance to get away from it.
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i kept spraying perfume in the back so we didn't smell it. i didn't look in the back. i didn't want to see the body. >> a month later shanoltzer was arrested for murder. the charge was eventually reduced to accessory after the fact. she pled guilty and served a 16-month sentence at the orange county jail. >> why would you run back with that gang in the first place? >> my children's father was one of their friends. just start hanging out with all of his friends. and all his friends treated me like i was the princess, and i had troubles when i was going through school being made fun of. their nickname was julie germs. and all of it coincided when i was finally mrs. popular. and i was popular for once. with the wrong people.
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a child is born to us. son is give on the us and he will be our ruler. he are be the wonderful counselor, mighty god, prince of peace. but the angels said to him -- >> shanholtzer's -- did not end. she testified against one of the gang members. now she fears if she has to serve her six years in state prison her life will be in jeopardy. >> those people are not nice people. they're murders. and it's not just one. it's multiple people. and they want to kill me. >> at the time of our shoot in orange county, shanholtzer appealing her six-year sentence and requesting if she did have to serve the time she did so at the orange county jail where she felt more protected. >> that's one of my saints. with my name. st. therese. >> she also made a few good
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friends in the jail and developed a constructive daily routine. >> i'm not surprised people that can't necessarily get it together out of the real world come in here and function very well in a controlled environment. many people do in here. >> hey there, handsome. thank you. >> i am still learning life because i didn't know life. i'm 30 years old, just learning how to drive. but you know what, i'm doing it. i'm learning it. there's a lot of girls in here that don't know how. and i'm going to school, and i have dreams now, and i can help people. that's what i want to do. >> coming up. >> hi boys. >> peaches is one of those inmates that stands out in your mind years after you leave a prison. he's very flamboyant. very forthright. very honest. >> one inmate's independence is
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code. the convict code is something we've seen in most of the prisons we've visited. it comes down to you hear nothing, you see nothing, you say nothing. you do your time and mind your business. we met one inmate who observed the convict code but was also open about being gay, and that's a combination you rarely find in prison. >> hi. all the men in there. hey! kenneth morgan is serving nine years for forgery and drug trafficking when we met him during our extended stay shoot at the penitentiary of new mexico. >> i told him i had more legs than a bucket of chicken. i do, i tell you. >> he was known to most of the prison by his nickname, peaches. >> you going to get a tattoo on
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your back? >> it says peaches all the way across the back. >> it better not. >> peaches is one of those inmates that stands out in your mind years after you leave a prison. he's very flamboyant, very forthright, very honest. >> like a poker party. you get around all five around them, oh, one, two, three, four, five. there's a poker party and you forgot to invite me. >> morgan says openness and honesty has served him well in an environment where homophobia can run rampant. >> i was 100% open that i was gay. i wasn't going to hide it. people took more of a liking to me, a trust to me. i wasn't considered a liar like somebody who is hiding it. it's all about trust being in prison. it's an open house. thank you. >> but honestly alone wasn't always enough. >> i've had to fight quite a few times. i'm not going to have anything taken from me. not material things, i mean
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sexual bodily function things, too. i'm not having anything taken from me. i'll put the purse down and i'll have to fight. you have to. and once you fight, they respect you. what are you going to do with the pickles, may i ask? too hot for me. >> morgan also earned the respect of other inmates as well as compensation in the form of commissary goods by providing skilled services not often found in prison. among other things, he's a tailor. >> now stand up here on the chair. i ain't getting on my knees, honey. you got me twisted. i'm not getting on my knees. >> none of the straight inmates were embarrassed to be seen with peaches. and that was also unusual in a general population setting. >> for a gay man in prison. it's like disney land.
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you just don't know what ride to get on. my family goes, are you ready to come home? yeah, i just haven't earned my mickey mouse ears left. a couple more years i've got my mickey mouse ears and i'm out the door. and i'm taking all the the rides with me. i'll go ahead and fill out the paperwork and have you sign it. >> morgan also held a prison job as an inmate advocate. for inmates facing sanctions for rule violations. >> on this i'm going to try to get you suspended sanctions. >> while morgan lived in the minimum security level two section of the penitentiary of new mexico, he was awaiting transfer to an even less restrictive level one prison, commonly known as the farm. >> i told them, it's like disney land. >> where you going? >> i'm going to disney land. going to go find a ride. the farm is a lot more free gom. it's four-foot fences. you know, you're pretty much on your own will.
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you do what you want to do, you know. it's all trust that you build up. >> peaches was told he had six months to stay disciplinary free in order to go to a lower level facility. that seemed pretty easy to do since he was so well acclimated in that prison. >> morgan! >> but adherence to the convict code would soon cost morgan his place in general population and the transfer he'd been waiting for. after a fight in his dorm, surveillance video caught morgan trying to clean up the blood. >> you could be a firsthand witness to an actual crime, but if you live by the convict code, you see nothing, you hear nothing, and you say nothing, and that was the case unfortunately with peaches. he was witness to a crime. but he wouldn't cop to it. >> morgan was moved to the segregation unit pending an investigation into his role in the fight. but he denied any involvement, even when confronted by deputy warden jodi brown. >> hey.
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>> they said i was involved, jodi, and i wasn't involved. >> but i told you we caught it all on video tape. >> but i wasn't in the fight or involved in the fight or nothing. >> you stood there. you watched them clean up the blood. >> no, i did not stand there and watch them clean up the blood. >> well, the video tape has a different take on it. the video doesn't like. you can clearly see peaches trying to clean up the aftermath of this crime. >> coming up -- >> i want to show you the video. >> okay. >> kenneth morgan is confronted by the evidence. >> and who is this? >> that's me. >> ea and then -- >> hi guys. >> by an inmate who just might take his place. >> mr. peach, you've got competition. >> i see. terol and who ordered the yummy cereal? yummy. [ woman ] lower cholesterol. [ man 2 ] yummy. i got that wrong didn't i? [ male announcer ] want great taste and whole grain oats that can help lower cholesterol? honey nut cheerios.
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around the barrier arms of a sifty rail as the train was approaching. former presidential candidate herman cain is endorsing newt gingrich. the endorsement comes just days before florida's crucial primary. more news later on. now back to "lockup." # and there's miss rivera. smile. >> kenneth morgan, also known as peaches, was one of the more memorable inmates we met at the penitentiary of new mexico. his life in prison is marked by a clear duality. he was the most flamboyant gay inmate living in general population. but he made it clear, he was no different than anyone else.
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during our shoot, he had received one of his rare disciplinary write-ups for helping cover up a bloody fight between two other inmates. >> this is peaches. looks like he's got the shirt that was taken from the inmate. looks like he was rubbing the floor right here. so that's one of my biggest issues right there. i want to show you the video. okay? so get over here. who is this? >> that's me? >> and what does it appear that you're doing right there? >> kicking the shirt. >> not cleaning up blood. >> i just kicked it up. >> why would you do that? >> fs way over here by my cubicle. i kicked it around giving them to them, telling them to deal with it. >> so you're still denying your participation? were you supervising the cleanup? >> no, i was just telling him he shouldn't do that.
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actually. >> so you can understand my concern, right? >> later morgan says the conduct code -- >> this is a prison. i don't care if it's level one, two or three. it's just the ethics. you see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. i'm going to turn around and walk away. even if i was right next to it. i'm going to turn around because i didn't see it. >> morgan was due to be held in segregation until an official hearing would determine his role in the fight and what, if any, sanctions would be handed down. but after two days prison officials determined they needed his segregation cell for a more problematic inmate and morgan was sent back to his housing unit. >> for a minute there we were absolutely peachless. now we're all peachy again. a reel peach with lots of fuzz. look at that. hi, guys. but in the two days he was away,
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someone new had moved into the unit. >> mr. peach, you've got competition. >> i see. >> and you don't have a beard. >> the new arrival was gabriel, another openly gay inmate who preferred to be called diamond. >> so word in the husing unit was, oh, there's going to be a big competition now because diamond was now center stage, so we were all anticipating. the tv crew as well as the other inmates, peaches reaction to possibly being usurped. >> just got down from lockdown. >> what did you do? >> they said i was in a fight. >> did you? >> no. >> what ended up happening between peaches and diamond was this very interesting friendship. a bond occurred almost instantly. >> i have a tattoo. >> i think it almost disappointed the inmates. they were expecting some kind of cat fight.
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>> i'm going to put the 12 right here. forget it. we're not making balls. >> well, you've two become best friends. >> yeah, we kind of click. we hit it off. it usually happens like that. >> but the inmates made it clear, they were just friends. you're both gay. >> yes. >> so why would you not be interested in each other? gay people stay with gay people, no? >> that's a negative. >> that's a negative. >> can you explain to me? >> if we want the same in the relationship, there's like a role play. not really. vi vice versa. we're more the feminine side than the butch side. >> not only had morgan developed a friendship with the one other inmate most like himself, he
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received some good news from the disciplinary ward. they decided to suspend his sanctions. as a result, his transfer request to the lower security prison was still under consideration. but near the end of the shoot inin new mexico, morgan had stumbled again. >> peaches got locked up again. poor thing. >> why? >> smoking on suspended sanctions. >> how does it affect you? >> my friend is not here that i get to talk to a lot. he should be back by after 60 days. i don't really talk to nobody now that peaches is gone. >> i woke up. i needed a cigarette. me and a few other people, we were smoking, and someone walks through and said can i have a drag. turned around and handed it to him. there's a lieutenant.
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lo and behold. i got in trouble. one cigarette. [ bleep ] it. i don't care. >> with a second violation coming on the heels of his first, morgan would pay a more serious price. he was given 60 days in segregation and a transfer to a new prison. but not to the lower security prison he had wanted to go to. >> i think you've worn out your welcome, and i've given you several chances, and i think a change of environment would do you good. >> peaches was very disappointed to find out his transfer was going to be to another penitentiary and not the one he hoped for. but in prison you have so little control of your own lives, that most of these guys become very accepting of their fate. they know they only have so much leeway and once a decision is made, they have to go with it. >> i knew it was coming. i knew it was coming. how do i feel? sad. there's not much i can say. i'm still in prison.
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but everybody up and moves. it's probably better off for me. >> coming up -- >> i really wasn't thinking obviously. even the best of us get caught up sometimes. and for the first time in my life my conscious didn't kick in and just say, don't do it. >> once a role model, a young woman faces prison time for a fatal act of arson.
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joe arpaio. >> i'm not a social worker. i'm not a psychologist. i'm a law enforcement guy. if they don't like the way i operate the jails, i got one answer to everybody. either get out of town and if you're here, don't violate the law. because you're not going into a hilton hotel in this county. >> get on the ground now! get on the ground now! 23, get down. >> with his reputation, we didn't expect to meet two young people at maricopa who not much earlier were considered role models as opposed to felon. >> no matter where we are you need to be serving god. right now we're in jail. i'm a very devout christian. i was working in my church and everything before coming here. it's not jailhouse conversion or whatever. i followed a friend and helped him do something that i shouldn't have done.
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and it's going to cost me several years of my life. >> during our state, we told the story of 20-year-old john, awaiting sentencing for manslaughter and arson. prior to his arrest, he was a popular black belt karate instructor for a company that taught sports to children. one of his coinstructors is now his co-defendant. marissa. >> i met john a couple years ago when he first got hired. he's overall a good guy. as a friend, we've always been close. we're like a team. >> one of the challenges in getting the inmates to reveal sometimes very personal stories is creating this connection with them. and with monisa, one of the things that we shared in common was a real affection for martial arts. we talked about that. i asked her to put me through some moves.
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and just going through a few forms and her showing me a few of her moves. that was the opening of that dialogue between us. >> mario learned karate from the same company that would later employ both antanuchi and herself. >> i started karate when i was 10. i saw a flier. i was like, i want to do karate. she was like, okay, we'll take you. i kept going, kept going. i went to the advanced class, and i was to lead the class. they listened to me there. i became the instructor. i became one of the instructors there. >> these young adults had a lot going for them. they were role models in the community. they had children who looked up to them. they had achieved a black belt, which is an extraordinary achievement at a very young age. and it all went away on one
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stupid night. >> antanuchi and other instructor, josh robinson were allegedly stealg from the company and decided to burn down the building. they recruited her during the attack. robinson was killed and they were charged with murder and arson. mario immediately confessed to her role in the fire. >> i really wasn't thinking obviously. even the best of us get caught up sometimes. for the first time in my life my conscious didn't kick in and just say, don't do it. it was just five minutes in time that kind of ruined everything. >> and you've never been in jail? >> i've never been in trouble before at all. i was a good citizen. i was going to college full time and on scholarship. and i was working. >> thank you. >> we were there accident occurring one of maria's visits with her mother.
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>> hi mommy. >> i love you. >> i'm the baby in the family. i've always done good. i've always done my best to make her proud of me. when she came to visit me, she told me you're still the best daughter in the world. this doesn't change anything. >> how is everything here? >> it's all right. it's boring. you guys get all my letters, right? she comes and visits me three days a week. if she could more, they definitely would. she gets frustrated when they're like, times up. she's like, no it's not. this is my daughter. >> it's okay. i'll be out soon enough. we'll have pizza and everything. you don't realize how special a hug from your mom is until you can't do it anymore. >> love you. >> love you. >> that's hands down one of the things that just ripped me apart. she's right there and i can't hug her. >> besides your family, what are the top things that you miss? >> i miss working out. being able to workout. having the room.
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having the energy. having the space. as soon as you walk in through these doors, all your energy is gone. >> both maria and antanuchi received plea bargains to reduce their murder charges to manslaughter. he was first to receive his sentence and because they were co-defendants, maria was in court to observe. >> being there was just crazy. i tried to stay a little upbeat around john, even though it was such a bad time for him, but it was just -- it was hard. he got 14 years. being john's friend, i don't want to see him do 14 years. does he deserve it? i don't know. what am i going to get? it was that much scarier. i don't know to what degree they're holding me accountable. i don't know what the judge is thinking. >> since prosecutors found him to be the ringleader, maria
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would face a lighter sentence. prosecutor is asking for a year here and probation. so they're asking for the minimum, which is good. i'm praying really hard for it. if i get it, you know, then i'm going to be happy. because i'm already more than half way done. if i don't, then i honestly believe that god has a reason for me. something i haven't learned yet. >> but things did not go as well for mario as she had hoped. shortly after our shoot at maricopa, she was sentence to four years in prison and was sentenced to the arizona state prison system. coming up -- >> my dad's an emotional subject. he done what was right. >> a young inmate goes home to the father who turned him in. and on the way, one of our producers has her hands full. >> any time dogs and kids are around on a normal day shooting lockup it's kind of a good day. most important step toward accomplishing something is showing up.
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when we took our cameras to the rural farm lands of western indiana for our lockup extended stay series at the wabash correctional facility, we got a unique look into the lives of men who grew up in the small towns that dot america's heart land. few, however, came from the towns any smaller than the one in which wabash is located. >> we're driving into carlisle, indiana. we have the town store. it's a really cool little town. i think it's very typical small midwest town. this is our lunch spot. >> there's pretty good spaghetti and pizza. that's pretty much all that's on the menu. >> but it's good. >> during our shoot at wabash, we met a young man who appeared typical of many of the inmates. william jones jr. grew up in the
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small central indiana town of shelbyville, far away from the negative influences of big cities. i like it. a lot of people don't like it. i like it. there's not a lot to do but just hang out with friends. jones' first run-in with the law came at age 9 when he was found stealing male and setting arson. >> friends were just talking me into it. i was like, all right. took lighter fluid and threw it in the back and set it on fire. that was the first one. it just kept going from there. i was mad. >> jones says he began using drugs at age 11 and was soon selling them and stealing to
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support his habit. at 15 he was put on probation after assaulting the manager of a fast food restaurant where he worked at age 18 three years before we met him, jones was convicted of the burglary that would bring him to wabash. >> i was hanging out with the wrong people. i was strung out on drugs and broke into a house. >> jones stole several items including a tv and sold them for drugs. the house he robbed was his father's, and this time his father turned him into the police. >> my dad is an emotional suspect. i don't despise him in any way. i still love him like i did. >> having clearly lived a troubled life on the outside, we were curious to see how his life would con to develop on the inside. but shortly after we met jones, his time at wabash was up. dpl the day william jones jr.
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got released i was responsible for meeting with the family at the front of the prison and driving them to the back of the prison where william would be released. >> middle arm will go up. >> thanks, guys. >> i was riding in the car with casey, who was william's brother and casey's girlfriend, and then their kids. they were really excited. i mean, the energy level was really high. >> me and my brother are pretty close. i'm just glad i get to pick him up and not have to leave him here. i've been up here like eight different times and had to leave him here. it was hard. >> meanwhile, lockup director of photography brian kelly is covering jones as he processed out of the prison. >> there you go. take your i.d. with you. have a good one. >> appreciate it. >> good luck. stay out of here. >> it was very typical of what we do on a release. the paperwork, the processing, making sure they get their money, changing out the clothes. and very interesting stuff. but one of the more enjoyable
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elements of lockup for me is when i see the second camera footage. to me it's always great to see the other side that i wasn't able to see when i was filming. >> what are the first thing you are going to do when he sees you? >> as releases inevitably slowly, the segment producer found herself outside the prison with a new responsibility. >> i was entertaining the children by running around the car with lexi and having her chase me around. >> but they soon got some unexpected help. >> two dogs appeared out of nowhere. dha came up to the vehicle where we were standing by. they let us pet them and got really comfortable around the kids. >> looks hike someone else wants to come home with you, too. >> the kids liked the dog so they stuck around and jumped in the car.
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it was really unusual to see jobs. any time they're around on a normal day shooting lockup. it's a normal day. >> it turns out the dogs lived nearby. >> who are you looking for? >> when jones finally exited the prison's main gate, our camera teams met up and we said good-bye to jones own his family. >> see you later. >> but it wouldn't be the last we saw of him. we asked jones if we could follow up with him after he was settled back home. five days after his release, he was appreciating even the smallest perks of freedom. >> you don't have to sit there and ask to get your door rolled. you can walk in and out any time
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you want. you don't have to ask to go get something. i'm finally free, and it's amazing. >> we also met his father, william jones sr., who had turned him into authorities after he burglarized his home. >> we had a lot of problems with him as a child. and i had just had enough. literally had enough. >> i know me going to prison messed him up a lot. he files like it's his fault. and it's not. >> i lived for two years blaming myself for it because of the amount of time that he got for stealing stuff that he did. and then i realized one day if i wouldn't have stopped him, it could have escalated into maybe breaking into somebody's house that had a gun. and maybe not having him at all. i still feel bad about it to this day. i think i made the right choice for him and for me. >> we also met jones' mother,
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angie spurlock. >> this has been the best week of my life. as soon as i got out of the van i stood there for a minute afraid to walk towards them. then i grabbed ahold of him and i couldn't let go. like my life had just begun. like the day he was born all over again. >> i'm a mama's boy. >> he definitely is. >> we had a heart to heart talk yesterday. william kept apologizing to me for what he had done. and i kept apologizing to him for what i had to do. and, you know, we hugged afterwards. >> i love you. >> i love you. i told him, i was like, dad, just stop. you did what was right. i'm not mad at you. i love you. i'm glad to be home. i'm glad to be here with you.
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