very poor. >> my campaign is focused on middle inform income americans. >> newt gingrich saw the opening and he pounced. >> i am fed up with politicians in either party dividing americans against each other. i am running to be the president of all the american people, and i am concerned about all of the american people. >> david wigel is a political reporter. michael sure is the white house correspondent for "time" magazine. let's start with what the president just said at the national prayer breakfast. listen to this. >> when i decide to stand up for foreign aid or prevent atrocities in uganda or take on issues like human trafficking, it's not just about strengthening alliances or

projecting american leadership around the world, although it does all those things and it will make us safer and more secure. >> what do you think? is that a shoutout against the gop? >> yes. and against the candidates. it's different from you. he's a wealthy elite. you have a lot of data points. it's worth noting that it is true. what romney said yesterday is a version of what he said a number of times before. he just said it poorly. he said in debates he's not focused on the poor or wealthy, but on the middle-income people. it speaks to a real flaw in romney the candidate. for two cycles, he's been terrified of making little flubs. he's had in his head the mistake his father made saying he could brainwash about the vietnam war. it almost ensures he regularly

makes these. >> if that's what he was worried about, i do want to note, romney said if there's a problem with the safety net he would try to fill those holes. but as it was said yesterday on "hardball," this is not like a hammock. these are poor people. they are working hard. how many times are we going to see this gap? how many more times? >> michael is right. it enforces an area that's been happening a lot. last night as i talked to voters here, they were immediately aware of romney in their view being dismissive of the problems who aren't making it in america. so he has had his problems. this is why he couldn't defeat ted kennedy because he was attacked as a callous businessman.

he hasn't correctly said it since. it's generally a different electorate. >> senator schumer, he said this this morning about what's happened. >> romney tries to reach, but because it's not real and it doesn't come from the heart, it's sort of false. he makes these gaffes as he did yesterd yesterday. they show the true person. the average middle class person doesn't say all poor people, the heck with them. >> it's gone this far. rush limbaugh suggested that republicans should be worried about what mitt romney says at the moment. what do you think about that, michael? >> even though it looks by all counts that romney has an easy path to the nomination, there's going to be a lot of churning within the conservative movement on talk radio to see if newt

gingrich can have another couple laps. the thing i would say about these gaffes is romney's campaign plan running through blue-collar voters. these people are so unhappy with the economy and how president obama has run the economy. if you point out the failures of the president and show your guy can do the job, you'll win the election. if obama is able to establish the narrative that he just doesn't understand you at all. he's kind of off. then that's obama's way in. and that's why this narrative is dangerous for the romney campaign pap. >> he has to beat the drama of the antiobama option. newt gingrich could have another big endorsement. we are waiting to hear what donald trump is going to be saying later on today. let's just say he might be

making a statement about an endorsement. put in sarah palin, herman cain, and now possibly trump. is there going to help gingrich? >> at least he's not endorsing romney and adding another figure to the ring. florida was just one primary, but we saw for the first time the conservative candidates, people who have fox news endorse one person. they went behind gingrich. romney won 46% of the vote. he didn't win all conservatives, but he won a lot of them. overall, he was able to consolidate republicans, which cuts against the theory that if every conservative dropped out, they could beat the guy. if you add up all the votes for gingrich and santorum, they would not have outmatched romney here. when trump left, when he decided

to close the circus tent a year ago, republicans were sick of him. for reasons of inclusiveness or what, but gingrich will accept anyone who comes up to his door and endorses him. >> okay. thank you so much. appreciate it, dave and michael. we'll be watching what is said today. hopefully, no more gaffes for mitt romney's sake. new reaction following the word of u.s. combat operations could come sooner than expected. the u.s. hopes to make the transition from a combat role to a training role by the middle of next year. and mitt romney was quick to respond attacking president obama. >> he announced that so the taliban hears it, the pakistans hear it. why do yo you go to the people you're fighting with and tell them the day you're pulling out the troops? it's putting in jeopardy the

mission of the united states of america and our commitments to freedom. he's wrong. we need new leadership in washington. >> well right now, 90,000 troops are in afghanistan. 22,000 are scheduled to come home this fall. and all u.s. combat troops are expected to be out of afghanistan by the end of 2014. joining us now is chief pentagon correspondent jim lashefsky. what are they saying about this? >> he hasn't laid out the reasoning behind it. this is the first time we heard from the secretary of defense that they intend to accomplish that at least by the end of next year. it came as quite a surprise to many here in washington that

panetta said that. an indication that there is some political element to all this. we were told early today that in fact, some over the administration were taken by surprise, and they had hoped that president obama could have made that announcement at a nato meeting in chicago in may. nevertheless, it's very important to point out what this is not, as you just did. this is not the end of all combat operations for american troops in afghanistan. even in that training and advisory role, they will still be embedded working shoulder to shoulder with afghan forces and could find themselves in some combat positions. it does not mean there's no plan on the books right now that they would prematurely withdraw all forces before the end of 2014. this strategy is exactly what the u.s. did in iraq when they withdrew from there. 16 months before the last american finally left iraq when

we ended combat missions there. during that 16-month period, even though the war was over, 370 americans were killed and wounded. even with this announcement, it doesn't mean american troops will be out of harm's way, richard. >> as you know, some of the drawdowns are because of increased activity in asia. you have news coming out of there. we're hearing a big u.s. kill of terror leaders there. some possibly linked to al qaeda. >> you know, this mission by u.s. special operations forces in particular in the philippines has been going on 20 years. in fact, one of the most aggressive airliner hijack plot that was swarted by the u.s. and other international agencies was hatched by al qaeda-linked terrorists there in the philippines. overnight through u.s. assistance, we haven't figured

out what happened, whether u.s. aircraft was involved, but there was an air strike that killed as many as four top terrorist leaders that have links to al qaeda. which in the philippines, since this fight has been going on for some time, would be considered quite a victory. >> including that attack on bali. thank you so much. they described him as a warrior and american hero. now the family of border patrol agent of brian terri, who was killed more than a year ago, has filed a wrongful death claim against the federal government. the family says investigators of the bureau of alcohol and tobacco and firearms allowed weapons into the hands of criminals across the border as part of a strategy called "operation fast and furious." two of the weapons were found at the scene where he was killed at the border. the gun trafficking program is the focus of a congressional probe. let's go live to capitol hill

and kelly o'donnell. good morning to you. u.s. attorney general eric holder going to be testifying today. also daryl isaac. what's his claim in this? >> the hearing is underway. the attorney general has come forward under great pressure. they have threatened contempt if the department of justice does not hand over more documents. they have been frustrated feeling they haven't gotten enough cooperation about this controversial mission that put into the hands of many on the southern side of the mexico border, including members of cartels, the weapons that you talked about that resulted in the death of a u.s. border agent. the u.s. attorney general is taking questions today. his office did not know about some of these things at the time. and the members of this committee are very doubtful about that. here's a sense of how the attorney general is responding

today at this hearing. >> allowing guns to walk, whether in this administration or the prior one, is unacceptable. i have said this from day one. the tactic of not intradikting weapons despite having the authority to do so appears to have been adopted in a misguided effort to stem the alarming number of illegal firearms that are trafficked each year from the united states to mexico. >> so a misguided effort is what he'sing he'sing calling it. there were people who knew more and have not been forthcoming. one member of the department taking the fifth to avoid self-incrimination. this has been going on for months. and today is a pivotal day to have the top law enforcement official in the united states facing these questions when there are some on the committee who doubt that his department has responded in a way that they should.

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at risk, over half a million dollars of annual funding for women's health services. the susan g. komen foundation is following a new policy. that bars money to groups under investigation. the house republican is pushing an investigation to see if that organization provides taxpayer funded abortions. >> the komen foundation has been the target of a political campaign bullying them. unfortunate l the result is that they gave into it.

>> supporters fought back. not only through outrage on the decision, but also by donating over $400,000 in the last 24 hours, says planned parenthood. i'm joined by jacki spierer. the komen foundation put out a statement. it says, we regret that these new policies have impacted some long-standing grantees, such as planned parenthood, but want to be absolutely clear that our grand-making decision are not about politics. now i know you have been absolutely outraged by this decision. why are you so personally tied to this? and what causes this concern that you have? >> first of all, my mother had a mastectomy. i have been a big booster of komen for years. have walked and run in their races.

have mced events locally for them. so to have the premier breast cancer research and breast screening and education nonprofit in this country turning into a political entity is deeply concerning, i think, to all women and men in america who are concerned about breast cancer. >> you even said, if i have the quote correctly, that the komen foundation is becoming a political advocacy group. do you belief they have changed into that? >> i believe that if they want to become a political advocacy group that they should change their status. they have put this new guideline into place that truly makes no sense. if you're under investigation. if you're under investigation by whom? the congress of the united states who really makes it a regular part of our operations to call individuals to congress

to talk to us about issues. >> some critics have said because the founder has strong republican ties that that might have something to do with this. >> she certainly is a long-time supporter of the republican party. she was an ambassador under the bush presidency to hungary, i believe. put that aside, and i have known she's been a republican all these decades. it has been nonpartisan. for it now to succumb to the anti-choice community that has pushed a subcommittee chair on the republican side to "do an investigation", that investigation started on september 15th of last year. and nothing has happened. inquiries were made to planned parenthood. nothing has happened. >> let's get back to the personal story that you shared at the top. your mother, we look at the

$600,000 that could be at risk every year going forward. some say that means the screenings that are so important will be cut back. >> indeed. 170,000 of the screenings that have been done by planned parenthood have been paid for by komen. these are to women who are either low income and don't have medicaid, or women who are unemployed and have lost their health insurance or young women in college who have no access to health insurance. so we are putting women across this country at risk because of a political agenda by the republicans on abortion. 97% of what planned parenthood spends their money on is women's health, unrelated to abortions. >> what's the solution? >> the solution is either komen steps back from this position or that we empower other breast cancer nonprofits in this country to pick up the slack.

and send our money to those organizations that are going to stay focused on breast cancer and not be impacted by other issues that are extraneous. >> based on those donations, that slack may be made up. jacki speier, thank you. a new law to have an ultrasound by an abortion. the house is expected to pass the bill and the governor is expected to sign that. republicans are in control of both chambers in virginia for only the second time since the civil war. what do you think of the virginia law and the komen controversy? tweet us. if there was a pill

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poor. he said his faith influences the way he leads. >> when i talk about shared responsibility, it's because i genuinely believe that in a time when many folks are struggling and in a time when we have enormous deficits, it's hard for me to ask seniors on a fixed income or young people with student loans or middle-class families who can barely pay the bills to shoulder the burden alone. for me as a christian, it also coincides with jesus' teaching that from to whom much is given much shall be required. >> president bush's name popped up in an ad for the senate in hawaii. >> the trillion-dollar cost of the war in iraq, tax breaks for the wealthiest americans. we can't go back to the bush policies that left america in debt. you have to see this clip in the first lady on a pushup

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here's a look at some other stories people are talking about right now. more than 70 people were killed and hundreds injured when a massive riot broke out in fans in egypt. dozens were crushed to death, stabbed, or suffocated as fans from the the home team chased players of the rival team towards the exits and up the stands. activists are accusing police of not stopping the violence.

the state senate passed a bill legalizing same sex marriage. the bill is headed to the house next week in washington. it's expected to pass. opponents be challengely referendum. for those wondering where winter is, ask folks in the rockies and central plains. denver could see up to 14 inches of snow and parts of nebraska might have up to two feet by sunday. you have to travel a bit if you're on the coast. the government's list of terrorists banned from flying doubled in the past year. the names have gone from 10,000 to 21,000. a counterterrorism official telling the ap the increase is due to changes the president called for after a 2009 attempted attack on christmas. newt gingrich is vowing to take this fight all the way to the convention, but mitt romney has a big leg up in the next contest. we're talking about nevada. a 20-point lead according to a new poll. mark murray is checking the ground game for us.

good to see you. let's start with nevada here. romney did really well last time. will we see a repeat? >> it certainly looks that way, richard. mitt romney got more than 50% of the vote four years ago. largely fuelled by a mormon population among nevada caucus goers. it looks like he's going to repeat that. he's the clear front runner in nevada. >> let's move on to maine. i find this interesting here, mark. do they have a week-long caucus there? >> it is. so it starts on the 4th on saturday and lasts until the 11th. we'll get the results on the 11th. the one candidate who has been working hard there is ron paul. he was campaigning in the state last week e. all part of his strategy to get delegates in these contests that might be avoided by the big candidates like mitt romney and newt gingrich. >> now newt gingrich, speaking of which, looking further ahead. let's look at super tuesday and

georgia and the south. we're talking about gingrich country here. >> we are. february is going to be a tough month for newt gingrich just because all the playing ground, whether we're talking about nevada or maine, really isn't newt gingrich territory. but if he can get to march 6th, super tuesday and some of the contests in the south like georgia and tennessee and oklahoma as well as that next week come march 13th in alabama and mississippi, he could be able to get some momentum in those contests. but first, he has to get there. >> march looks like the month. since we have you here, mark, what are you hearing about donald trump and his plans? we're getting some conflicting reports. >> all the reporting yesterday from other news outlets was that donald trump was going to endorse newt gingrich. i can say we have gotten some indications and signals that that doesn't seem to be like a closed deal. we haven't been able to report definitely that gingrich would

be -- that you would have donald trump endorsing mitt romney instead of gingrich. there's a lot of smoke that it won't be donald trump for newt gingri gingrich. >> if you get the endorsement for donald trump, help or hurt you? >> it depends on who you are. overall in a general election, it probably hurts you. we have seen donald trump be a big light nick ning rod early when the presidential contest started with all the birth certificate controversy. in a primary contest, if it were newt gingrich getting the nod, it would be a csignal that the entire tea party, the strong conservatives were all lining up around newt gingrich. but mitt romney getting this endorsement would be an embarrassment for newt gingrich not to be able to get it right on the eve of the nevada caucuses. this could go many ways. in the general election, i'm not sure donald trump would help either. >> we have a couple hours before we hear what he's going to do.

mark murray, thank you. today is the last full day of campaigning before the caucuses in nevada. i'm joined by amy tarcana in nevada. good day to both of you. amy, let me start with you. it's been pointed out nevada is like three states in one. how big a challenge is it to get the vote? >> sure. well you definitely have to be organized and have your grass roots ready to go. they are bigger, better, stronger, and definitely more organized. >> erin, it's not common that nevada would get this much attention. last time around, you had to share the limelight. this time it's nevada only this this coming saturday. what are you looking for as a

democrat while the republican food fight continues? >> well, i'm curious about what their turn youth is going to be. when we e had a contested caucus, we had 116,000 caucus goers, which i think showed the party was strong and obviously went on to elect president obama. so i think that they are going to have to show numbers as high as that to show they are strong in nevada. >> let me ask you this. we're just getting this in here at msnbc. if i could ask you this, amy, we're learning that sharon engel is endorsing rick santorum. how important is that for rick santorum? you did bring him up earlier. >> right. well, i don't know really if that's going to make or break it for rick santorum. i know that sharon does have a group of followers that are tea party activists that still have been loyal to her to this day.

i don't know if that will be enough to put rick over the top in front of both ron paul and mitt romney. >> not polling so well. interesting fact about the state of nevada, amy is that your hispanic population has grown by leaps and bounds in the last decade. will they be a force in this contest? we're talking about the latino vote in florida just days ago. >> sure. i think they are an important part of the upcoming caucus. but my whole focus is to make sure we get a high turnout and just the hispanics are more than welcome. i just want the big turnout overall. >> erin, your thought about that level of diversity there? >> the latino population is huge in nevada and definitely will be an important force.

it's definitely relating to the democratic party. we know we fight for them. they are going to be a factor and democrats are proud that latinos are supporting. >> one-word answer. who is going to win? >> i made a bet with my father a couple weeks ago. i said ron paul. he said mitt romney. >> what about you, amy? >> the american people we're going to make sure president obama is a one-term president. >> we thank you both. appreciate your time. pleasure. >> thank you. >> wall street is keeping a close eye on federal reserve chairman ben bernanke. he's testifying before the house budget committee. just offered his latest assessment on the health of the economy. take a listen. >> the pace of the recovery has been frustratingly slow. particularly from the perspective of millions of workers who remain unemployed.

it has left the economy vulnerable to shocks. >> courtney reagan is here with what's moving your money. as we listen to what ben bernanke is saying, he didn't offer reassurance. now talking about jobs. >> exactly. this is a big point for ben bernanke to get in front of congress and use the opportunity to speak about the economic issues that are most important. and that includes jobs, housing, the market, inflation. we just heard from him a week ago how the federal reserve said they intend to keep interest rates low until 2014. some of the language is reappearing today, which is not a surprise to the market. stocks are relatively flat as of now. we're not hearing anything surprising, but it was always something the market will watch when the chairman of the federal reserve speaks to any group, let alone congress. it's the question and answers is when the news is broken. we're going to continue to see

reaction to that. >> i have a question for you, courtney. are we going to be facebook millionaires? >> i wish that we were. i think the issue, though, is that many people that will want to get to the shares aren't going to be able to. we don't know how many shares will be offered to the public. but it is believed that the majority of shares will go to mutual funds, pension funds. there's some institutional investors that have private shares in the company. mark zuckerberg will be a billionaire. $24 billion. but his salary is going to be reduced to a dollar a year. we hear a lot of executives do that because of the stock options will be worth so much. >> should we feel sorry for him? >> it's like the accidental billionaire. it's one of my favorite stories of the year. he didn't set out to do this. he said we set out to make a movement and not a business. it turned into it. >> it's so common with these

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they site several reports of people being affected after coming into contact with armadillos. good morning. i'm thomas roberts. mitt romney's poor choice of words. reaction from the right. could it kill his lead? donald trump on the stump for newt gingrich in las vegas or is he? the donald expected to endorse a candidate today. will he lay his bet on gingrich or provide romney a surprise? and the susan g. komen cancer foundation is siting efficiency and not politics for defunding their grant to plan the parenthood. that and much more coming up. republicans do not have a nominee yet, but the race is on for the veepstakes. ask john mccain how crucial choosing a running mate can be. reed wilson and patrick gavin

are joining us. you power ranked these guys. marco rubio, he said he doesn't want it. what makes you think he's the favorite here? >> that's what you have to say. you have to say you don't want to be vice president. you have to say you have the greatest job in the world. but if the leader of your party comes to you and says i need you serving on the ticket so we can win, that sort of objection is going to go right out the window. i have been struck by a lot of the candidates like virginia governor bob mcdonnell, he's said if they asked, we'd consider it. >> but you put marco rubio at number one. romney is saying he would never

pick him. >> i'm with reed on this. i don't believe anybody who rules it out. when the time comes, most of them will do it. that would include chris christie. he would be a game changer. i'm not somebody who believes so much the idea that you pick vice presidential nominees based on what state they are from. i think what you do do, as you noted, is you pick somebody who fills in the gaps you do. chris christie does that for mitt romney. mitt romney's weakness is he can't come off as stiff. chris christie offers the counterbalance. he's dynamic and blunt. kind of a media darling. in that regard chris christie would be a good pick. >> you talk about the regionalty. that's an interesting construct. we look back. you have two conservative

choices from swing states. bob mcdonnell and bob portman. are they too safe? >> there are a number of different factors that any campaign will consider. whether it will be can that candidate bring me a swing state, you have rubio in florida, it would if that's the argument. you have a question of balance. can somebody like chris christie really benefit a stiff, wooden romn romney. the most important factor is the sarah palin/hippocratic oath. above all, do no harm. are the picks safe enough and not hurt romney more than they help? >> hold on to that idea first. that was the first tier we were talking about let's go to the alternatives. three more interesting choices.

bobby jindal and martinez. >> i think martinez from new mexico would be a good pick. she's not from washington. she's from a western state. mitt romney's policies on immigration aren't super popular out there. she's somebody who is hispanic and a woman. she helps in those records regards. the other issue for mitt romney to consider is there's a talented bench on the republican side. folks like paul ryan, marco rubio. the question is how many folks want to jump in now and latch their wagon on to mitt romney? and how many folks want to wait until a potential obama administration is over and then try to run for president themselves. if they become the vice president, that's obviously a quicker step to the white house if the romney administration does well. >> that bench is strong when it comes to the veepstakes. i want to ask you this.

the wild card. who might be the sarah palin this time around? reed, just give me a name. >> we left pennsylvania senator pat toomey off the list. >> patrick? >> donald trump. >> subject of the day. got to bring it in. >> thank you so much. the tweet of the day comes from ben white. sheldon adelson saw his shadow. six more weeks of gingrich. [ male announcer ] what's the beat that moves your heart?

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ground hog day, meteor strike, and tebow. it looks like winter is not over yet. punxsutawney phil saw his shadow this morning leaving us with six more weeks of winter. not like a lot of us have even seen that much of winter. check out this video from a police dash cam in texas. ignore the flashing lights and focus on the bright light streak ing across the sky. it wasn't a ufo. the faa says it was a meteor. witnesses also reported hearing a loud boom. it was jimmy fallon trying out the zip line at the super bowl village. i heard he was screaming like a

girl. tim tebow was a guest. and fallon had some fun with his character tebowy a few weeks ago. >> the only thing that was messed up about it was you were a little bit off tune and a little pitchy. >> sip the coffee. it's a good stalling tactic. that's down to the wire. that wraps up this hour of "jansing and co." i'm richard lu. later talking to mitch daniels. and also talking to planned parenthood. you name it. i've tried it. but nothing helped me beat my back pain. then i tried salonpas. it's powerful relief that works at the site of pain and lasts up to 12 hours. salonpas.

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poker face. will the donald place all his cards on newt gingrich or bet on mitt romney instead?

reports are flying fast and furious. we'll break it down for you. plus mitt romney's latest gaffe and the redo in his own party. could it kill his lead as the republican race heads into nevada. afghan exit. is america's longest war close to coming to an end? an announcement has critics up in arms. a legal move by a florida club own er to adopt his girlfriend call cagey and down right creepy. wait until you hear it. i'm thomas roberts. great to have you with me. a lot to get to. first though, it's politics vegas style. anything could happen. they are hoping to capitalize on his florida punch to newt gingrich. but instead it's been focused on an ill-conceived comment about the poor. take a listen. >> i'm not concerned about the very poor. we have a sfe