i'll host a book signing in blessed sacrament church in washington, sunday morning at 11:30 to talk about my book has the whole story on jfk, stop by. "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. good evening, americans, welcome to "the ed show" from new york, the president made a move today that really should end the republicans war against women when it comes to health care. but we know better. it won't. this is "the ed show," let's get to work. religious liberty will be protected. >> the president is keeping everyone happy on the contraception mandate. >> a law that requires preventative care will not discriminate against women. >> jan schakowski of illinois and msnbc's melissasharris-perry are here. >> president obama tried to control your lives. >> the republican candidates get their chance to distort the truth at cpac. >> barack obama is the poster child for the arrogance of

government. >> howard fineman has the latest from cpac. scott walker has reached another all-time low. he's using wisconsin's mortgage settlement to plug his budget shortfall instead of helping homeowners. milwaukee mayor tom barrett and state senator lena taylor are outraged, they're here to respond. oh! >> 8th grade science whiz, joey hudy is bringing his cannon from the white house to "the ed show." >> came out great. it looks safe. good to have you with us thanks for watching. the republicans are moving forward with the war on women's health care. despite the compromise, offered by president obama. the president announced a revision to his administration's contraceptive policy. women will still get free access to birth control, regardless of their employer and religious institutions will not have to provide coverage. this is what the catholics want.

instead, the rule shifts the responsibility on insurers, not employers. >> religious organizations won't have to pay for these services. and no religious institution will have to provide these services directly. whether you're a teacher, or small business woman, or a nurse, or a janitor, no woman's health should depend on who she is, or what she works, or how much money sheç makes. every woman should be in control of the decisions that affect her own health. >> after days of right wing conservative backlash, the resident recognized a workable solution needed to be drafted quickly. >> after the many genuine concerns raised over the last few weeks as well as frankly the more cynical desire on the part of some to make this in a political football it became clear spending months hammering out a solution was not going to be an option. >> women's groups, they see this outcome as a victory.

>> i think he made very clear that this is a woman's health issue, i like the fact he talked about that women use birth control for a lot of reasons, the most frankly the most common prescription medicine that women use. this is huge news for women. >> and catholic groups are backing the president as well. the administration won the support of the catholic health association and president, sister carol keehan who is pleased with the decision. the united states conference of bishops called the plan a good first step toward addressing concerns of religious liberty. bottom line, just about everybody is on board, very satisfied with the president's decision, except for the guys trying to take his job. >> we're not talking about a $10,000 procedure. something that is inexpensive medical drug, and the idea that some how the government has to insure this period, the government has to force people to cover this for the first

place is a complete -- makes a mockery out of the issue of insurance. this is aç president trying to impose his values. he thinks he knows best. what people should have and shouldn't have, that should outrage everybody of faith and no faith. >> that of course is the out of touch rick santorum, where 67% of the american women are in favor of what the president did today, 61% of americans across the board are in favor of what the president did today. mitt romney did not fight a contraception mandate when he was governor. here is what he said about the president's decision

but republicans are just moving forward with the plan that would put women's health care needs in jep difficult. here we go, from the republican side, roy blunt of missouri is introducing legislation that would allow any employer or health plan the power to deny a woman birth control coverage. this breaking news just in, it 2012. are we talking about this? yes, we are. this is one of these head fakes the republicans love to do. i find it hilarious. that today, the three republican candidates are are speaking at

cpac. and the president puts out a plan today that makes everybody happy. the catholic church, the bishops, everybody is on board, planned parenthood, majority of the americans, where does this leave the republican tos to rip the president? leaves them in the wilderness one more time. the fact is the social issue is just a head fake. it's about health care for women. the president did the right thing. get your cell phones out i want to know what you think. tonight's question, will the republicans continue to pretend that president obama is waging a war on religion? text a for yes, b for no to 622639. you can go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com, we'll bring you results later in the show. joining me is congress woman jan schakowski of illinois. congresswoman, great do have you with us the perfect irony they are talking about social issue at cpac and religious freedom and the president gave them all the freedom they wanted to day.

are you satisfied with the president's decision? >> well, i think it's actually brilliant. we have the women's organizations, the health care organizations, saying that now women can be guaranteed, regardless of where they work, they will get access for free to the birth control that they need. you know, rick santorum scoffing at the amount of money birth control costs really does show how out of touches. it is between $600 and $1200 a year what many of the modern birth control methods can cost. that is a lot of money. actually, 50% of women from 18 to 34 years old have expressed concern about being able to afford that. but remember that old game "the farmer and the dell" the cheese stands alone. the cheese stands alone, the republicans are by themselves, and i felt like romney was

really saying to the catholic hospital association, oh you have been duped, you don't know what you're doing. how condesending is that? >> here is roy bluinsurers to d coverage, abortions are as low as they have been in decades. a lot of that has to do with contraception, how much of a fight is this going to be? can you see the insurance lobby going to work on this? >> first of all you understand that the insurance companies prefer to insure contraceptive care, because pregnancy is much more expensive, so it's really actually good for employers and certainly good for insurance companies. but if i were texting you right now, i would say the republicans are likely to continue to move ahead, that's how out of touch they are. i'm on the energy and comer

committee, i fully expect to see this bill there, supported by the chairman, supported by the chairman of the sub committee on health, and just -- they will just plow ahead despite the american people, especially american women being on the other side. >> today's decision got a lukewarm response from health insurance industry, put out a statement saying we are concerned about the precedent this proposed rule would set. a lot of people think this is a good step toward universal health care, which i know you and i would be very much in favor of. i like the idea that poor women in this country are going to get an opportunity to move forward in life because obviously, it's hard for them economically especially when they get pregnant and have children at an early age. everybody is in favor of this. but when you see that the insurance company is saying that this is -- this sets a tough

precedent, the precedent the proposed rule would set, doesn't that mean they are ready to fight this? >> i don't know, if the republicans and insurance industry is on one side, and women and the catholic health association and all the health care experts are on the other side, i think that is a pretty good team. i would rather be on that team. >> congresswoman jan schakowski thank you for being here. melissa harris-perry, whose new show starts february 18:00th at 10:00 a.m., great to have you with us. >> thanks. >> did the president do the right thing? >> absolutely. in fact it was a classic sort of presidential moment, in that he listened to a very relish -- real issue, it's not irrelevant, not unimportant, our understanding of who we are as an american people. he listened and found a solution and offered it. >> i don't see any losers in this. everybody wins, the catholic church gets what they want, they don't get the mandate, doesn't

go against their doctrine, even though most catholic women go ahead and practice contraception anyway, politically why would the republicans fight this? >> because right now anything the president does has to be bad. as you pointed out earlier the economy is slipping away, look, this is in part an economic decision. not only is it cheaper for insurance companies to provide coverage for contraception than pregnancies or pregnancy terminations both of which are far more expensive, but because birth control pills also manage things like irregular menstrual cycles, excessive bleeding, all kind of things that keep workers from going to work, like we keep talking about women like they are something other than the primary driving economic engine in this country. >> let me ask you about that. how offended are you about this conversation taking place this week? 58% of women use the pill for other medical purposes.

>> it's a pretty disgusting conversation because all of it is talking about women, and what women do and it's just not recognizing women are all of these things. most women using contraception already have children. they are managing of size of their family to provide for the kids they have. by the way, many, many men benefit from contraception and prefer for their wives and their girlfriends to be able to provide contraception for themselves. >> here's the president earlier on the politics of it all. >> i understand some folks in washington may want to treat this as another political wedge issue. but it shouldn't be. i shirt never saw it that way. i certainly never saw it that way. >> as greg sergeant points out this could be a wedge issue in the democrats favor. why are the republicans fighting it? who knows. is this something that the democrats will be able to put off to the side and really because they've done the right thing, majority of people are with them, that it won't be an issue down the road?

>> this won't have staying power to the extent it's a wedge issue, it cuts across generationally and brings voters back to president obama. when you look at the decision has more to do with age than even gender. young men are also highly supportive of the availability of contraception broadly to women. >> melissa harris-perry, are you excited for your show? >> i'm a little beside myself, yes. >> it's kind of cool. >> kind of cool, yes. >> it all starts on february 18th. >> february 18th. >> we look forward to it thanks for your time. >> thanks, ed. answer tonight's question, share thoughts on twitter. republican nominees were fighting at cpac, most voters want to throw in the towel on the current field. howard fineman joins me next. wisconsin governor is taking money that was meant for struggling homeowners and using

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coming up, mitt romney told the crowd at cpac today that he was a severely conservative governor of massachusetts. they weren't buying it. howard fineman on day two of cpac is next. dog gone it, that all american sean hannity that throws the football in the studio because he never threw it on the field still has no evidence to back up his claim president obama didn't want to kill osama bin laden. day three, no tapes. scott walker hit a low, taking money set aside for mortgage relief and using it to close the budget deficit that he created. we'll have more on that later. >> joe hudy, wowed the president with his marshmallow cannon at

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welcome back to "the ed show," day two of cpac, the annual gathering for conservatives in washington d.c. mitt romney got his big chance to prove himself to a hard-core conservative crowd today. >> we conservatives believe in freedom and free people and free enterprises, i know conservatism because i have lived conservatism. on my watch we fought hard and prevented massachusetts from becoming the las vegas of gay

marriage. i was a severely conservative republican governor. >> romney talked the talk but rick santorum says he is the real conservative in the race. >> we always talk about how will we get the moderates, why would an undecided voter, when the party isn't excited about the nominee. we need conservatives to rally for a conservative to go in november to excite the conservative base, to pull with that excitement moderate voters and defeat barack obama in the fall. >> so whenich one is the true conservative? they don't seem to care. a fox news poll asked republicans if they want a different candidate to get the nomination. 49% said yes. i'm joined by howard fineman, nbc political analyst and editor and director of the huffington post media group. howard, i learned a new one tonight, called severely

conservative. was that -- does he get a for effort on trying to turn their minds around whether he's conservative or not, mitt romney? >> he gets a for hutspah, didn't go over too well in the hall. but i actually thought the entire speech itself was his best effort to sell himself to this crowd. but of course the way i'm putting it, sell himself to this crowd, summarizes his problem. newt gingrich and especially rick santorum are the kind of people who you know as kids would have been at cpac when they were in college, they would have been there through their formative years and their growing up. mitt romney said in his speech and give him credit for saying it, he said look, when i was a kid i didn't know who edmund burke or the austrian economist.

romney thought they were playing for the detroit tigers. that didn't go over well, either. he's selling to a crowd that doesn't believe in him, whereas, newt gingrich and especially rick santorum, the body language, the spirit in the room was different. it was more a conversation among friends than was the mitt romney speech, even though they worked on it for days and days. >> how impressive is this and how politically smart is that picture that rick santorum has his family up on stage with him? this crowd is all about social values and social issues, they have been talking about them all week long. was this a good move and is this going to give santorum the momentum, the boost he needs to go to michigan and arizona on february 28th? >> well, he understands the symbolism and mood music of cpac. cpac, which wasn't always so focused on social issues, the way it is right now.

this was perfect symbolism for the crowd. having the wife and the kids up there, throughout the whole speech, and having them nodding and listening and sounding like they were listening to it for the first time and agreeing with their dad. that looks corny but believe me, in the hall, it went over big. >> the washington examiner reported on a closed door meeting between mitt romney and conservative leaders yesterday and romney was told to layoff of santorum, what can you tell us about this? what are you hearing? >> i think right now that what everybody is saying, and it's really summarized in a way by that amazing fox poll you showed the results of, is conservatives, especially don't like the tone of the campaign. they don't like the nastiness, they don't like the attack politics, they don't like the tone that in fact rom know and

newt gingrich -- romney and newt gingrich set in florida. whether they are supporting santorum or not, and a lot are, they also like the fact santorum by and large tried to run a positive campaign. >> howard, do you think romney will go after santorum now that he's polling better nationally right now? will he go after santorum the way he went after newt in florida, that is coming? >> personally in his own speeches he won't but the so-called independent pacs will tear in him big time. they have no choice, the people who are supporting romney have no choice. that's the way he's campaign and that is the way he has to continue to campaign because mitt romney has yet, he did a better job today than he had but still hasn't explained why he's the conservative republican choice. he has a hard time making the case, he just does, even though soum of t some of the numbers he cited in

massachusetts are plausible, he did cut spending, et cetera, et cetera, but it sounds like a little too little too late in his career and in his thinking to convince people like the people at cpac. >> howard fineman great to have you with us on this friday evening. >> three days since hannity said he had tapes proving president obama didn't want to get bin laden. i still haven't seen any tapes. later, three republican presidential candidates attended an event where white nationalists was an invited guest. why was he there? not a great way to grow the party, is it? [ coughs ]

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well, mr. intellectual honesty sean hannity failed to produce any evidence to support his claim that president obama did not want to get bin laden. hannity said he had tapes proving if president obama had his way, we wouldn't have gotten bin laden. this is day three i'm very concerned now. and he has not produced the tapes or admitted he misspoke. i thought hannity worked for a network claiming to be fair and balanced. sean? if what you said is true, why is the president sitting there watching seal team 6 carry out the raid on the compound? why didn't he call off the mission right there and go shoot some hoops or something? and why did candidate obama say this in 2008.

>> if we have osama bin laden in our sights, and the pakistani government is unable or ub willing to take them out, then i think we have to act and we will take them out. we will kill bin laden, we will crush al qaeda, that has to be our biggest national security priority. >> he said we will kill bin laden. now sean, if you're honest intellectually, that is, you'll play the tape on your show. barack obama is the candidate he was not lying, he was determine to do what the last president failed to do bring world's number wonder orrist to just -- number one terrorist to justice. panetta says enhanced interrogation was used at some point during the years the cia wasn't hunting bin laden. but john mccain made it clear the key pieces of evidence leading to bin laden were not a result of torture. >> i asked the director of

central intelligence leon panetta for the facts. and i received the following information. the trail to bin laden did not begin with a disclosure from colleague muhammad, waterboarded 183 times. it was not torture or cruel, inhuman, degrading treatment of detainees that got us the major leads that ultimately enabled our intelligence community to find osama bin laden. >> you can play that tape, too. this is not about rendition, it isn't about enhanced interrogation. this is about sean hannity, not wanting to admit president obama succeeded where president bush failed. >> i just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you. i truly am not that concerned about him. >> sean, you can't be a great american if you don't tell the truth and i'm still waiting for you to release your tapes. this is day three, how long is this going to go on? we could go on maybe a million

days, and you still wouldn't have the tapes because they don't exist. and sean hannity doesn't have the guts or the character to admit that he misspoke. 25.6 million out of 140 million is a very small component of that. >> scott walker is using wisconsin's chunk of the foreclosure relief settlement to balance the budget. milwaukee mayor tom barrett and lena taylor, state senator, are not happy, they are here with reaction. cpac has a white nationalist problem. goldie taylor and mike papantonio have the latest. hail to the fluff. an 8th grade science whiz is brings his marshmallow cannon from the white house to "the ed show." >> let's see what happened! sfx: cheetah growling sfx: car tires accelerating

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office. he's using millions of dollars meant for victims of foreclosure abuses to help balance his state's budget. honest broker, what do you think? wisconsin's total share of the $26 billion national settlement with the banks is $140 million. 31.6 million goes directly to the state government. walker is putting $25.6 million of that money toward fixing his budget shortfall. what scott walker is doing, i think is outrageous. he gave businesses last year a $117 million tax break while forcing teachers to give up their collective bargaining rights. walker said it was the only way to balance the budget. well, it's not working. recent estimates project wisconsin's budget deficit will be $143 million in 2013. so walker is trying to bail himself out of trouble by using set ment monooh settlement money

to balance the books, something he was against just last year. >> we need the savings in the budget repair bill because wisconsin faces a 3.6 billion dollar deficit. this deficit did not appear overnight. wisconsin got here through reliance on one time fixes, accounting gimmicks and tax increases. previous governors and legislators from both political parties took money from our tobacco settlement. they relied on one time federal stimulus dollars as if the money would be there forever. but it's already gone. >> so after governor walker announced that he was raiding the foreclosure settlement funds, he high tailed it out of state and at this hour he is in washington, dc, preparing to spew his hypocrite cal anti-union ideas in a keynote address, where else? at cpac. i'm joined by milwaukee, wisconsin mayor tom barrett and also state senator lena taylor, great to have both of you with

us. >> good to be with you. >> mayor, your city has had the most foreclosures in the state. how do you explain governor walker's decision to balance the budget with these funds? >> well, it's unconscionable. in our city we have 4800 homes abandoned. it costs us about $10,000 per home to renovate or demolish them, that is $48 million. even if the money came to us we couldn't deal with the scope of the problem we have. that is what makes it so unconscionable, money that clearly was intended to help victims of the foreclosure abuse, people who are victims of crimes, and he's chosen instead to take this money and put it in the general fund. a fund that just two days ago he was claiming is fully balanced. so now, in the span of 48 hours, he says it's no longer in balance, we have these funds, i'm taking them away from people in communities that have been

devastated through the foreclosure crisis. >> senator taylor, wisconsin attorney general says his office has the authority to do this. how do you see it? >> i personally believe that the legislature should be able to vote on this matter. i put out a bill today and asked for a deadline of 5:00 for legislators to sign on to say there should not be a unilateral decision by the government -- governor and attorney general to do this. these funds had specific use, for individuals who have been victims of foreclosure for neighborhoods that frankly need to have us do something about foreclosures because it affects all of us who are in various neighborhoods. i think the attorney general is off on this and it really goes to hurt all the constituents that helped to vote him in and those that didn't vote for him. >> do i have this right, senator taylor, governor walker turned down stimulus money that would have created jobs, yet he's taking this foreclosure money

that is coming from the federal government to shore up his budget which of course has a gaagaping hole in it. >> that is correct. over and over the governor continues to show he's a hypocrite, continues to show he's a liar and he sent back money before that could have created jobs, that would have continued to help our community whether it was the trains or several dollars that he has sent back over and over again but on this one, he wants to fix his budget that he lied and said was balanced when he knew it wasn't in the first place. >> more disturbing is that he was critical of the raids on the toe batobacco fund, and other funds and he does the exact same thing. the only difference is that these people in these neighborhoods, they don't have highly paid lobbyists. that is the difference. these are people who have been victimized by a bait and switch

in the foreclosure crisis. now they are hit by a second bait and switch with the governor and attorney general working hand-in-hand. ohio had similar problems to wisconsin in terms of contentiousness. there the attorney general has got it, he has learned that people do not like this divisive governing and what he has done in ohio is he has taken the $97 million discretionary in ohio and put them where they need to be in cleveland, toledo, columbus to deal with the foreclosure crisis. we have a governor and attorney general who continue to ignore the plight of these people. i would like to see the attorney general and governor of the state of wisconsin do what the attorney general in ohio did today, that is come to these neighborhoods, come to senator taylor's neighborhoods, milwaukee that have been devastated by foreclosures and tell these people as the governor said in your clip, this isn't a lot of money we're just going to take it.

>> mayor tom barrett, you ran against scott walker, are you thinking about running against him in the recall? >> well the focus i have on right now is purely a mayoral focus but not just for the city of milwaukee, beloit, racine, kenosha have been hit hard, they all deserve to have a piece of this as well. >> i'm asking about you running for governor. are you considering doing that in the recall? >> of course i'm considering doing that but right now on this show at this time i'm focusing on what i consider unconscionable act. >> i agree with you, great to have you with us tonight, appreciate your time, keep up the fight. if republicans want to grow their party, why do they invite a white nationalist to one of their biggest get togethers of the year? goldie taylor and mike papantonio join me next, stay with us. immerse yourself in all over relief

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welcome back to "the ed show." we've come to expect cpac to bring together the far righties, they should draw the line somewhere. this year they welcomed a white nationalist. peter brimelow, developer of a website to limiting immigration to mostly white people. a white nationalist hate website. he was one of the panelists at

cpac's panel on the failure of multi culturalism. congressman steve king of iowa was also on that panel. he said multi-culturalism is a tool of the left to sub divide our civilization. brimelow says they have given up on winning the white working class vote so they use bilingualism, the real issue is treason. what is a white nationalist doing there at that conference at all? these three guys were also at cpac today. i wonder if these presidential candidates think they can grow the party with a gathering like cpac when they invite known racists? let's turn to goldie taylor, managing editor of the goldie taylor project and mike papantonio, host of the "ring of

fire" radio show heard on weekends. mike, let me ask you first, why is someone like this invited to a panel discussion at cpac? >> because it's what the republican -- what they have become, ed. you can't judge them any other way. they know who this guy is. this is the new david duke. he makes david duke look like a race-baiting light way. he said jews are killing america. on his website, ed, he said african americans died in the katrina hurricane because they had low iq's and didn't know what to do to save themselves. cpac is the heart and brain of the republican party, when americans follow cpac, they follow what this man stands for. if you vote republican, understand cpac is the heart of the republican party. when an american votes republican, they vote for a neo-nut like brimelow. they vote for presidential

candidates who don't have the courage to say that this man is a nut and i don't want to have anything to do with him, they appear on the same stage with brimelow as if he's a normal republican and the truth is, he is a normal republican. >> goldie, i've said for some time i think the republican party has an identity crisis. how could they allow somebody like this, if this gets proper coverage, i mean people will draw pretty tough conclusions, what are your thoughts on it? >> i don't think they have an identity crisis at all. i think they know exactly who they are, this is the same strain of populism we saw around the turn of the century, it caused lynchings throughout the jim crow era, racialized populism, the same strain of racism of the tea party movement and embracing of the gop. the republican party has been

unable, unwilling to release itself from this strain of the party, thus becoming identified with it. they have to wonder it's little wonder why they are not able to successfully reach out to african americans when they embrace individuals like this. >> goldie, listening to the detail of your answer there, your response, how do you feel about the fact the three major candidates that spoke there today, did not denounce nor did they distance themselves from this? >> i think it's shameful. i think in the same way that rick santorum was unable to denounce the person who asked him about president barack obama's birth certificate they are unable to denounce people like peter brimelow. steve king, sitting on that panel is also just an abomination. >> the dog whistle politics continues. here is newt gingrich. >> i want to run this fall as the jobs and paycheck president

versus barack obama who is the most effective food stamp president in american history. >> candidates like rick santorum are speaking to working class white folks across america, but they must avoid trying to tap into bigotry. mike, how will they do that? >> they can never do that when you have more than a dozen republican congressmen sitting there. you have presidential candidates, people who want to be leaders of the world sitting there, not saying a word about the fact that this man is a known racist, who says basically that jews are destroying america. if you were at cpac, here is the clear message, we removed our pointed white sheet dunce caps, you can see who we are. minorities and jews are no locker welcome. you can dress it up, hide behind it any way you want this is what the republican party has become and if you're carrying a card in

your pocket with an r on it, this what is you stand for today. >> goldie taylor, mike papantonio, great to have you with us tonight, thanks so much. when we come back, we'll switch gears to something fun on a friday night. the young star of the white house science fair will join me here on "the ed show" with his marshmallow cannon. ♪ it' s nice to be here ♪ ♪ ♪ it's nice to see you... [ male announcer ] this is your moment. this is zales,

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in the big finish tonight, the young star of the white house science fair is here on "the ed show" tonight. this is what everybody was talking about all week long, a 14-year-old joe hudy was at the white house demonstrating his marshmallow cannon for the president of the united states. it was all part of the administration's plan to support math and science. >> this is great. what pressure do we want to get it up to? >> 30.

>> oh! let's look at the marshmallow, see what happened? it looks safe. >> yeah. >> in case you didn't quite catch the president's reaction to the marshmallow cannon, here he is, looking pretty impressed, don't you think? joining me tonight is joe hudy, joe, ed schultz, nice to might welcome to "the ed show." >> nice to meet you, too. >> you bet. how did you get invited to the white house, how did this all happen? >> originally i have been in contact with this company named macon, they had a list of people they were going to take to the white house, but then another company named cognizant sponsored me to go there. >> tell our audience how did this work? what is in this machine? >> basically everything orange except for the altoids box and

wire is pvc pipe, holds all the pressure. and the sprinkler valve is what release the pressure and electronically opens and a safety switch here and trigger switch. >> okay. how did you feel -- obviously the president was pretty impressed with your invention there, how did you feel when you saw his reaction? >> i really didn't get to see his reaction later on when i saw the picture, i was shocked, it was funny. >> he sure seemed to pay more attention to yours than anybody else, didn't he? >> one of the other news reporter said it was like five minutes, and i was like -- i was surprised. >> he was impressed with it, wasn't he? >> yeah. >> what did he tell you about it? >> i don't quite remember, it seems like a blur to me ma.

>> kind of cool meeting the president, right there in the white house, that had to be a neat thing, huh? >> yeah. >> can we test this? i'd like to see how it works, what do you think? >> okay. >> all right, let's go. go to work there, joe get after it show us how it works. >> first you have to pump it up to get to the pressure. >> how much do you have to do, ten times or something? >> i'm doing ten psi right now. >> how far does it normally shoot? >> at 30 psi shoots 176 feet. >> 176 feet, okay. let's see how far it goes. >> 3, 2, 1. >> boy that sucker goes a long way. what are you going to use it for? >> just for fun. i normally use it for fun.

>> load that thing up again, we got to take a real good look how this operates. all right. here we go. here is the replay, moments ago. there it goes. good shot, buddy. >> thank you. >> what is your next project, do you have an idea what the next project will be? >> i'm currently working on something called a shield, a micro controller you can program, a shield plugs on top of that, and i'll wire that lights up so i will be able to program to light up the wire. >> all right. good luck to you, joe hudy, i'm sure you got an a for your project. congratulations great to have you on "the ed show" we'll look for you as one of the great scientists of all time. fire it one more