>> i asked him about that. and he said this is just the beginning of the government's process to resolve the problem. >> that means we'll have a huge investigation into the federal reserve? >> he did say that's the big issue. also the derivatives issue. it was a big issue. that's what he said. >> all right. i'm trying my best. >> it was beneficial for me because i didn't get to see the whole show, but i get a personal report at the end to see what happened. thank you. have a good afternoon. >> thank you. >> the show start its now. good afternoon to you. nice to see you. i'm dylan ratigan. happy to be holding court here in new york city all week. the big city, power grab. iran getting the power and the upper hand because quite simply,

no matter what you say, the world needs their oil. as an opec member, iran has huge control of what we pay at the pump. again, the last barrel of oil dictates what happens. now the chances of a $4 or $5 gallon a gas may soon be a reality. that's with our government subsidizing the other $10 of the real cost. if you want to get into the integrity and real price of the fuel we're dealing in and how toxic it is, gas prices near their highest ever for this early in the year. this is theoretically coming into a bridge period. despite that fact, prices are going up. 14 cents more than a month ago. february historically one of the the cheapest months for gas at the pump. you can see how prices typically fall in this trough period. you can only imagine what lies

ahead for when the demand cycle comes back online. above all else, this is the reason we need to shift our agenda in america to honest, earnest, real, energy independence. we have been saying this as the core of the defense energy project to employ veterans. high, toxic gas is derived from unstable, violent, foreign countries. but every problem, remember, is a job. we can put millions to work right now in the context of our 30 million jobs efforts by seizing upon the need for american energy independence, which leads us to ask the obvious question. what are we waiting for, people? let's ask our economist peter marie see. pete i'll come to you in a second to talk about some of

these. but before we get into it, dan, why are gas prices today going into march higher considering demand is at a ten-year low? >> you hit it right on the head. demand is down. supply is incredible. we are a net exporter of fine gasoline for the first time. supply is up. demand has down. it has people wondering why are gas prices going up? we have three things making the perfect storm for a rising price in gasoline. the first is in the need for people to invest in hard assets. you see the stock market up. what comes along with people investing in soft assets comes in appetite for gold and oil. and i'm talking about financial oil. >> so because of the money printing and the financial policies that the demand for oil has a bid to support its purchase.

it has nothing to do with supply and demand. it has a financial hedge against the economic policies of the west. >> they want oil. >> it distorts the price. >> it makes supply and demand a nonissue. it becomes a financial issue. what has people investing? >> people are buying oil as a hedge on western financial policies. >> number two. there are reasons why people want hard assets like this. the main reason is iran. we have incredible political risks going on out there. we have marginal barrels. it's likely to come out of the system. from libya, where the online is not as quick as we once saw. >> middle east fear and uncertainty is the second thing. the first is financial wedging. the second is we don't know what's going on in the middle east. >> what it does is puts an image in peoples' minds that there's a

shortage. >> so the fear factor. >> now with gas specifically, we have had a bankrupting of refineries mostly on coast. the one you know where from your youth, they decided to get out of the business all together. they closed down enormous numbers of refineries. a big one that they owned was down in the virgin islands. another one from conoco phill s phillips. so you'll have a shortage of supply. >> you won't have what you really need to get cars going. you create this kind of shortage, especially coming into the summer months. that's why you get $4 gas. >> let's talk about this. let's set aside the first reason, which is crazy western financial policies, which created distortive incentive to buy oil. we'll set aside the refining issue, which goes to permitting

and is a whole other conversation. and i want to stay on the trade deficit and the second issue, which is the incredible vulnerability we have to the activities in the middle east. if we wanted to set a policy agenda for energy independence relative to that particular component, do the resources, does the technology exist knowing that not only doing this would reduce our trade deficit? >> we're importing 8 million barrels a day and using that much in gasoline. we can produce another 4 million barrels a day in oil to cut that had in half by opening up assets. most of the onshore drilling is giving us natural gas. i don't see why we can't reduce energy consumption by automobiles by 20%. you put on top of thatthe new y running all of them on natural

gas because the problem with natural gas and cars is the distance or the range. but with fleet vehicles in cities, you can gas them up twice a day if you have to. i think we can get us out of the oil importing business pretty quickly. maybe within five years. but the president talks the talk. >> let's wait on the president. the best way as a dual strategy which is massive efficiency upgrades across the board, combined with access to natural resources across the board, and a combination of massive efficiency upgrades which reduces our burn rate with increased domestic production. you think that within less than ten years, we can be energy independent? >> absolutely. we can increase our production by 4 million barrels a day indefinitely. and this is not that we would give up on solar and wind and all that. we pursue those things. those are taking down our fossil

fuel consumption. so let's continue on both ave e avenues. >> so this comes back to our road show in texas last week. we had had john hofmeister. returning veterans from iraq and afghanistan to seize american energy independence. no one has a greater incentive than our returning veterans. and their capacity and skill and dangerous nature of energy. it's perfectly suited to the veteran community. take a listen to john hofmeister with us in texas last week. >> if we don't get our act together as americans, we're going to live off the 20th century system until it falls over and then we're going to be short of energy, out of jobs, out of money, and we're going to wonder what happened to us. we could do a whole lot if we could sit around the table as

reasonable, practical people and develop a plan. >> and imagine if that plan included upgrades in efficiency and domestic resources. peter, very quickly. >> i've discussed this in depth with hofmeister. he's right on the ball. if we went on both paths, we could get things done. it would be fantastic for the economy. >> it goes directly to a few million jobs. you get last word. >> one of the keys here, and it's tough to say, but it is natural gas. that's where our independence is going to come from. it remains the key. that's where we have to devote our infrastructure spending. >> i disagree with you only in so far as our cars right now waste 8 out of every 10 gallons they burn. and japan's at 80%. there's clean diesel in germany

that can get 75 miles to the gallon. i believe massive inefficiency extensions is our number one fuel source because every other country is already doing it. the fuel source follows to the efficiency. that's why we have these debates. lovely to see you. coming up here, eye in the sky. we use them in war zones. but should they be patrolling your neighborhood? the mega panel with the pros and cons of the new authorization for drones to survey your town. plus the author of the best-selling book in america right now. it's not me. not even close. "american sniper" is the book. chris kyle is the author. he's going to tell us what it's like to kill not just one person, but to kill more than 150 as a navy seal sniper. that's the highest number of

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it? >> i built it. >> "person of interest." a drama that plays on the idea that big brother is always watching. a source we have paid for to survey and launch lethal weapons into afghanistan and pakistan. but thanks to an act in congress, the same drones are now legally authorized to survey your neighborhood. in fact, 30,000 of them will be surveying your neighborhood and mine as well over the course of the next eight years. supporters say it makes it easier for authorities to track down missing people or criminal suspects. but already the civil liberties union are expressing concerns about privacy. karen, susan, and jimmy are here. i want to offer you my point of view on this and see where it goes. maybe i was wrong about this,

but i thought the point of this country and its found iing in terms of the constitution was to create an environment that protected the people from the abusive government. that we had an abusive government in western europe that was preying upon us. no taxation without representation. we had this whole revolution. the constitution was designed to defend the population, right to bare arms, blah, blah, blah. now we have decided that that's blah, blah, blah, and we're going to give authority to the government to run with joy sticks predator drones on some sort of promise it's going to help find our child when they run away. where am i wrong in that? >> it's a hard path. i'm all for cameras on public streets and everything. >> like they have in london. >> exactly. big brothers watching.

i'm not opposed to that because if you don't want to have it be seen on cameras, don't do it. >> all over? >> cameras in cities. now when you bring in the droning issue, it's tremendous. to think there's safety concerns, but just in your neighborhood, your neighbor can get a little humming bird drone. >> that could be fun weekend entertainment. is that legal too? >> our laws, besides using it militarily or government using it on us, people are going to use it on other people. >> so like a rich person could hire a drone pilot to survey karen? >> yeah. it would be a little boring, but -- >> you know what we might find out is those library books behind you are a fake? >> you could just ask.

i think to the point you're making, it's not just the government. it's the military industrial complex to some degree. there are big corporations for whom this means big money. and what's happened ever since 9/11 is, again, preying on our fears and saying we need this for security. there may be legitimate security uses for this technology, but it does mean that the line is getting moved. it's an abuse of power. we have a hearing going on today on contraception with no women. a government that's out of control in terms of people thinking they can just use power how they want to. and i think this sort of definitely steps across a line where some of us are saying, i don't want people doing this. >> before 2008, jimmy, the narrative as we saw it, republicans were this predatory expanding warmongering force and

democrats were going to come to the rescue of america and prevent us from the slippery slope of invasion of civil liberties and no democrat would be involved with domestic surveillance and assassination and all sorts of chicanery. and in the transition from a republican to a democrat when it comes to banking, they feel the same way. when it comes to issues of national security, am i being too critical of the democrats to suggest that this discussion is one that's being facilitated by both political parties as both of them seem to be remarkably out lunch when it comes to this particular issue, which is the constitution and its intent to protect the people and the reason we have a theoretical democracy? >> i don't think you're wrong to say democrats are acting like the republicans in that sense.

but i'm going to respectfully disagree with my colleagues on this panel. i don't have a problem with these drones. the fbi can go and do this stuff as it is. the cia can do it. your local law enforcement can do it. so what is the difference between it being in a plane or a camera or a policeman? the courts will rule if our rights are infringed. if it keeps me safe, i don't care. >> i would love to hear your rebuttal. but i don't have the time. the panel stays. we take a momentary break. the texas primary away from the drones, could now be forced back a month. this as a battle of redistricting heads to the highest court. the issue of drawing new district maps. those new maps, the results of a population driven mostly by

hispanic residents who claim they are not accurately represented in the proposed map. this is an ongoing issue in america. a long history of jergerrymandeg in texas. redrawing electoral districts in texas gives an unfair advantage to one party guaranteeing them control of their district no matter how you vote. that's one of the reasons we need electoral reform. one congressman has introduced legislation to reform redistricting. congressman, i understand this on a state level. what can you do on a federal level to affect the redistricting and districting in general when it comes to the electoral process? >>. that includes an opportunity to deal with redistricting. i have introduced legislation that would create a national

independent redistricting commission to try and reign in this practice, i would say scandal, where politicians have more influence picking their voters than voters have picking the politicians. >> and no one questions that. the problem is when you have that problem, and you can't fire a politician even if they have a 20% approval rating because it's a gerrymandered district and nobody runs against them, whatever it might be, it allows these people to continue to keep their jobs because they are disconnected with the electorate. how would your plan help to reconnect the voters to those they elect such they don't continue to be so horribly abused? >> there are some states that have independent commissions, california, iowa, and that provides a system where you can actually get some competitive

districts and you avoid the notion of these heavily-engineered jergerrymandd districts. i think this is the approach that has taken hold on some states, but we saw even in arizona, governor jan brewer tried to fire the woman who chaired because she voted for a couple of districts that were competitive. i think we need a national solution. the commission would take it out of the hands of the politicians. i think that's going to make a huge difference not today, of course, but the next time we go through this debok call across the country. >> the only thing that occurred to me, is no matter what you do with gerrymandering, you're going to have lefties living in new york city. a bunch in san francisco. that's how human beings are. you can't gerrymander. that's just human. that's okay. >> that is okay.

there are certain collections of interests and personalities that will congregate. but by having an independent commission drawing the lines, looking for district interests, compactness, uniformity of interests, you'll have a much fewer of them and more likely there will be come that are competitive and you won't have a texas congressman trying to gum it up to get a baseball stadium in his district. that's outrageous. >> the scandal of the political culture of this country as we learn so much about it in this new era of information is startling. and disgusting for a lot of folks. we appreciate your efforts to try to deal with some of the stinkier parts of the problem, which are gerrymandering. thank you, sir. we appreciate it. >> our broken system, we know, one of the reasons why we cannot

get tax reform that we need in order to get the 30 million jobs necessary for this country to prosper. it's why we set out to identify the problem solvers and the communities that are restoring themselves despite all of this. next week, we up the ann tee with a college tour. next wednesday, kentucky. then off to ohio state in columbus, ohio. if you're in the neighborhood f. tonight, we're sitting down with the king of late night, jimmy fallon. check it out on your local nbc station right after "the tonight show." the only thing we have in common is we're both from upstate new york. after that, we'll have to find out. straight ahead, the specialist

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that's a good question for the whole debate. where are the women? where are the women on that panel? imagine them having a panel on women's health and they don't have any women on the panel. duh! >> this is the beautiful thing about gerrymandered districts where you can never lose your job is you can get a 10% approval rating, behave like a complete, pick your adjective, and keep your job. the issue today. women's contraception. record poverty, record unemployment, we're going to do women's contraception. really? that's great. the democrats walked out of a

house hearing covering the cost. good drama there. >> i think this is a shameful exercise. i am sad you have chosen to do this. >> where are the women? when i look at this panel, i don't see one single woman representing the tens of millions of women across the country. >> we now go to the gentleman from texas. >> talk about bridging a freedom of speech. >> you just need secret money to buy commercials with. that's the new speech. you didn't know that? any way, whether it's women's rights or gay marriage, our specialist believes social issues are being used with the intent of dividing this country. why has it be so effective? the reason her theory is so effective is because americans

are uncomfortable talking about the fact that people have sex. they like having sex. they do it on a regular basis. men have sex with men. women have sex with women. and yet we cannot deal with that on some level. anything that speaks of sex has all this energy. why would we deal with any of that? nancy cohen, polar liezing america. i would like your assessment of my high pott thinks. >> i think you're right, but we're seeing something that's appalling if it weren't so hilarious. if we understood the history of the sexual counter revolution that's been going on for 40 years, it wouldn't be as surprising. >> give us a sense of what it is we're not understanding at at least on a federal political

level, even if we understand it in our communities, that you think they need to understand. >> they tell a story of how a small group of reactionaries who want to control sex have hijacked our politics. it goes back 40 years. the sexual revolution and gay rights movement. it really changed america tremendously. birth control did used to be illegal. gay sex was a criminal act in every state. i mean, shocking. so americans are totally fine with these changes. >> you mean communities are fine? >> except for the small minority who has hijacked the republican party. >> and that minority we see today are men, but in your book, you say women started the counter act? how did they do that? >> absolutely. this started in 197 2 and 1973 with conservative women who were

horrified by the changes. >> by the level of promiscuity or the acceptance of homosexu homosexuality? >> or that women would work. it was against child care. so they organized through their churches and on the local level. then they worked in ptas and they took the republican party over from bottom to top. so it was actually women who forged the religious right and made it into a power house in the republican party. years before the moral majority. >> that gives the effectiveness for this wedge to land in the middle of this presidential election when we're down 30 million jobs, poverty, war, wealth and quality, and we're not talking about any of it. we're dealing with this insanity. karen, go ahead. >> my question is, in addition

to sex, what role do you think in terms of race? it strikes me that part of where this strategy from a political context also really became codified was the southern strategy. then we saw it again in the bush races where carl rove focusedond the anger points. let's divide people and have them at each e other's throats, prey on their fears, whether it's sex, race, and keep them at each other's throats so they don't vote for their shared interests. they vote towards other interests that we tell them are what's important. >> that's a good question. i do think that race was the predominant driver of this back in the late '60s. it was absolutely race that moved the white southerners out of the democratic party into the republican party. but if you look at the bush elections, he actually didn't win on gay marriage.

he won on terrorism. all the studies show that he basically kept the republican base and gay marriage actually brought more democrats out to vote. i do think there's a tiny minority that's reactionary on racial issue, but i don't think we would see this contraceptive fight if race were the most important thing to them. >> the contraceptive fight has to go to the unresolved sex psychology and the power dynamics that you talk about here. jimmy, you get the last thought here. god help us all. >> i don't get why it is that people are in other people's bedrooms. the rights think they have this crazy opinion that all gay men run around having sex all the time. only if that were true. maybe i could try to prove them right. but unfortunately, i live 80 miles west of washington, d.c. in a log cabin.

so my closest companion is my dog, so therefore, that is not going to happen. i just want to know why everybody needs to be many any bedroom because i don't want to be in theirs. what's the fascination? >> especially the same people who have the urge to control? >> you're always talking about the fix here. and the fix is diagnosing what the problem is that the sexual fundamentists control the republican party. >> and that there's unresolved fear of sex in our society that motivates them. >> everybody who disagrees with them is afraid to challenge them. and say this is crazy. this is ridiculous. >> i'm saying it. >> so and the way to stop it is for everybody to stay engaged and vote. >> listen, the other thing is these things are great for ratings because they get everybody worked up. everybody likes to talk about

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confirmed sniper kills in american history. it's a pleasure to have you with us, chris. why do you think your story has caught such a nerve this this country president bush? it's so fascinating for so many people. >> honestly, i think it's because i don't hold anything back. i talk freely. i'm not worried about political correctness. it's not a story just about navy seals. it's every combat vet's story and the hardships they go through and even my wife has a lot to say about the hardships of the family. it's just raising the awareness of all the troops. >> what do you think is the common thread represented as a result of your candor, of your openness about the violence and about the compassion, all the things you get into in this book. what do you think is the unifying story that's revealed

through your personal narrative that captures the attention of people? >> just a lot of the guys have been in the same situations that i've been in. it's nothing unique to me, but these guys are reading the books and they feel validated with some of the things they were feeling because i'm putting it out there. that's the way i felt on some of these things. they are recognizing the situations they were in that fall right along with my stories. >> let's talk about some of your stories. there are a lot of different things that you can talk about. but a couple that strike us. you say there are some situations where you'd have the target in sight and decide not to shoot. is there a consistent -- how did you make tame down to your discretion as to whether that moment was the right time or right situation to fulfill the orders you'd been asked to carry out?

>> well it depend on the rules of engagement at the time on when i was allowed to shoot and when i wasn't. and if anything was kind of in the gray area, then i chose to basically protect myself and not take the shot. now if somebody was actively bringing violence to the troops and allies or civilians of iraq, then i would of course, take that shot. there were times it was perfectly legal to shoot anything carrying an rpg, and i shot a man carrying one, and they sent a boy out to pick it up. i was well within my rights to take the shot, and i know he's picking it up to hand it off to someone else to use against just that day i couldn't take the shot. >> there's one story in which you say that you and those who were with you in combat were so fearful and assessed the

situation such that the odds were so against you in the context of the battle you were in that you called in an air strike on yourselves. is that correct? >> there were several different times we thought this might be it. but that's what you signed up. you basically write a blank check up to the price of your life that you're willing to give for the country. when you're put in that situation, you fight as hard as you can and hopefully you come out. if you don't, you're dying in honor of your country. especialliey for your brothers the right and left of you. >> one of the things we have been trying to sink our teeth into on this show and around this country is recruiting and encouraging and helping our returning veterans find work, specifically around energy independence and really the freedom and the independence of this country, whether it's

domestic oil production texas. i would be interested as a reporter speaking to a veteran your assessment of that type of an effort. >> we definitely need to be able to help these guys get jobs placement when they get back, whether it's giving them their education or helping them be placed in jobs, even if it's not energy. whatever their skill sets, give them the capability to fulfill that job. they need to have the first pick. >> i can agree with that. i'm going to share a personal story with you. i released my first book at the beginning of january. it's called "greedy bastards." it's about the nonsense. i was fortunate that the book came out on "the new york times" best sellers list and has been there since it came out. you look and you're like what else is on the list? and i've looked and i'm scanning the list and i see at the top of the list.

i don't think you were number one yet, but you were up there. it says "american sniper." i said that book looks awesome. you discover books. and then it's a very appropriate that i'm about ten paces behind the guy who wrote "american sniper." i know my place in the world even when it comes to selling books. this isly well-deserved. thank you for your service and what you're doing in offering your candor so we can be an honest conversation about what it is we ask our soldiers to do and what we will ask of ourselves going forward. truly, chris, congratulations on not only what you have done but what you're doing now. >> thank you, sir, i really appreciate it. >> i'm ten paces back. i don't need any trouble. i'm just in economics. he scares me. coming up on "hardball," the fight for michigan, what does it mean if romney can't win his

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the thought of leaving the security of your current job no matter how much you may not like that job can be daunting. especially considering many americans can't find any job. but noah kass says an

opportunity like this should be met with opportunity, not fear. lots to be afraid of when it comes to leaving your job. why is it so important we come to understand not only how you can greet job changes with enthusiasm, but why is it important we have an awareness about how important it is to change jobs? >> because with changing jobs comes a rediscovering. with changing jobs comes the possibility of innovation. with changing jobs comes the ability to change the course of your not only professional life, but personal growth. i think it's in line with the work you're doing with the 30 million job tour. it's a more local level. this is a personal issue as much as it is a campaign. you know? >> and if you look at the reason people don't want to leave a job they hate, it's fear. sometimes justified. >> sometimes justified fear. people have to pay their bills.

but people stay in a job and they become so apathetic to the job that they don't progress. they are so fearful things will be taken away from them. management tends to exploit these people. they work longer hours. they take vacations away. they start working saturdays. they start working sundays. and what happens to that is people start not thinking outside the box. they start thinking this is just their life and this is the way it's always going to be. there's no way change can happen that way. and regardless of the employment rates or the underemployment rates, that's a statistic. if i want anything from this, what i want people to know is that's a statistic. your personal journey is your personal journey. if you feel you're ready to switch jobs, you look within your social network. you look within your context. . you look at your skill sets and what you have to offer. don't be fearful of these statistics. >> and you're going through some of this yourself. >> absolutely.

>> you recent ly left the realization center. you're looking for different things. how did you reconcile your own fear to take the risk that you have taken and what do you feel you have learned and you can share with the rest of us? >> extremely scary situation to feel you are in a place where you can grow and keep moving and there's some stability there. but you know, i looked at it from a perspective of i want a new challenge. and i'm lucky to be able to be in a position where i can have an opportunity to make the challenge. and i have the means to do that. not everyone has the means to do that. and that's very important. but even if you don't have the means, while you're in a job and waiting to switch, there are things you can do to become more computer literal, take management training, take higher education training. you can put yourself in a position so when a new job opens up, when the economy turns like

it's starting to do, you can attack it. >> and you talked to me about the enthusiasm. that seemed to be the point that you're making with just the other side of the coin of the fear trapped. once you t through that fear bare your, there's an equivalent. >> i'm hoping the euphoria. we'll see. but my hope for myself and others that once you get past that, there's an awakening. and a new sense of wanting to go to work in the morning. and a new sense of what you can accomplish and what you can give back to society and what you can give back to your family. and how you can help yourself grow. >> it's interesting to bring it back to the 30 million jobs business we're into around here, e every problem is a job. we have a lot of people doing jobs that aren't creating jobs. people are going to have to change to newer jobs that are