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will snoantorusantorum's rhetor dividing factor. >> i'll defend everything that i say because it comes from here. >> middle east turmoil leads to sticker shock at the pump. and marie colvin the fearless american war reporter killed today while covering the fighting in syria. >> there's been ferocious shelling starting at 6:30 this morning. tank shells, and rounds, heavy shells. several buildings have collapsed. there's at least 12 dead. >> her last dispatch. good day, i'm andrea mitchell li live in washington. mitt romney trying win over supporters, he rolled out a new tax plan this morning. chris is with us.
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basically, he is cutting all marginal rates 20% down to -- 28% for the corporate tax rate, he is trying appeal to supply siders and to the other supporters of the tea party. they are among the biggest lagger in terms of liking mitt romney versus santorum. >> he put out a plan in september, it was a 59 point plan. >> nobody read it and he never talked about it. >> this is an attempt to take a second bite at the apple, it comes at the same day that dl s there's a debate. you have critical michigan and arizona primary next weekend, he is trying reset and make a direct appeal to the tea party folk who is are at their heart, economic conservatives, these are people that want government
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out of their financial live approximats, this is an attempt by saying i'm one of you. >> this is how he described his own tax rate today. >> i'm going to lower the rate across the board for all americans by 20%, and to not add to the deficit and in order to make sure we continue to have progress as we have had in this past in our code, i'll limit the deduction for the high incokoco folks. >> he is trying get a hold of the messaging, he will talk over and over again, more jobs and less debt, i think you'll hear that tonight at the debate. >> absolutely. there's a reason they are rolling out the specifics of this retooled or reintroduced tax plan on the day of a debate. they want to get this focused
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back on the economy, mitt romney as the business guy, the guy that sign todayed the front of check not just the back of it. and they hope it will work well against obama in the fall. >> the polls are showing 37-35 a tie, maybe santorum's momentum has been blunted somewhat perhaps by some of the controversial things he said, hard to say. but they are tied. >> if mitt romney loses michigan, there will be a huge reckoning within his campaign and the republican establishment about whether he had his chance and it's time for him to move on and they get someone in against santorum, circle next tuesday, it's without question, the most important day of romney's campaign. >> i'll be there. >> and i will too.
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>> thanks s chris. the obama team announced that massachusetts governor patrick will cochair and example camp -- and campaign, we are excited to have you today to talk about it. we will talk about the tax plans, the dualing tax plans i want to ask but the sense that some have had, the white house has not been fighting back against the hammering that he is taking from the republican side. let's play a bit of rick santorum on hannity the other night. >> he went to reverend wright's church for 20 years, you can question the theology that he has, he says he is a christian. look, i'm not going question what the president believes in what it comes to his faith. >> it's the oldest deal in the
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book, they put out seeds after saying they will not question it. how does the white house respond and how are you responding to this? >> you see it for what it is, and i think the general public sees it for what it is. it is pandering to the extreme and it points out the republican nominees are running to be president of the tea party and the president meanwhile is the president of the united states and acting like it and doing the job and it's up to him and his administration to stay focus odd thatt ed on -- focused on that job, the other cochairs and i will have opportunities to engage the kind of thing that is going in the republican primary while they try to take pot shots at a president, who against extraordinary political and financial and fiscal odds has delivered for the american people and needs an opportunity to finish that work in a second
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term. >> there's a lot of money splashing around. >> isn't there, yeah? >> the president's own fund raising raise is down and the burn rate is higher. do you have a challenge raising money and attracting big dollars especially in this economy and with a lot of wall street people, former supporters frankly not happy with the president? >> i think the president will raise the money he needs. i mean that, is frankly, as somebody who is in this world, and at least at the state level, it's part of politics that i hate the most, the business of asking people for money and how much of a role it has and the time that you spend. but the president will run a campaign that is at the grassroots. it's the most purunder valued t, he respects regular folks that
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are not just democrats. also democrats but folks that are independents and republicans that want to come in and participate and have their views valued and who are interested in turning to each other rather than on each other which is what is offered by other side. >> do you think this social issues that rick santorum has focus oed on, he is talking abo economic questions but he is throwing out red meat for the conservative supporters are those social issues going to define the campaign? >> they are issues that people have strong views on. first and for most is how do we get the economy to grow and speed up the growth to assure that we are growing jobs not just to the well connect but out to the marginalized and to the out cast and people who are wondering today whether the american dream is at risk. and this president has proposed a number of different ways to demonstrate and to assure -- to
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demonstrate his commitment and to assure that the american dream lasts for several generations to come. as the campaign builds and the presidents that opportunity to talk about his record of accomplishment and his vision for the country, you'll see how that contrasts in important ways with what is on offer by the other side, how much more optimistic and more practical and inclusive it is and how, if we give the president the tools, that is the issue. this congress is unwilling to give the tools, if we give the president the tools, then he can unlock the incredible energy in this country and we can win the future. >> governor patrick, congratulations on your new role with the obama campaign. >> look forward to being with you again. >> many times in the future as the campaign unfolds. for the other side, now tied,
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mitt romney is unveiling his tax plan hoping to improve his standing with conservatives. former missouri senator is a pr romney supporter. let's talk about what is going on in michigan. they are in a tie and all the polling shows that mitt romney still has a real problem with conservatives. that is where he is really lagging. how do you suggest to try to shore up conservative base? >> yeah, he was behind by, what 15 points? >> right. >> a week or ten days ago and now it's a tie. you can describe it as a surge for us, he will keep talking about what he has always talk besides, -- he has always talk besides. the problem is the congress did give him what he wanted.
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he got obama care and he got dodd-frank and got the tax increases in his health care plan and that is why unemployment has been above 8% for longer than any time since the depression. that is what we are running against and we are running for the things like that tax plan if governor will announce today. it will create jobs and opportunity for people. that is what the campaign is about. >> do you believe that it can be deficit neutral? a lot of people will question that. >> sure, it can be. >> that is the old supply side deal though, isn't it? >> people used to say to me, well can you balance the budget while cutting taxes and i always said, you know, you cannot balance the budget without cutting taxes because the first thing you have to have for anything else we have to have is economic growth and prosperity. every time we do a marginal tax cut we have had an economic boom. you have to cut spending. we have made nmore detailed
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proposals on cutting spending than anybody else and you broaden the tax base and governor romney has been open to that. you can have economic growth, you need smaller government. >> senator, what about the essential issues and some of the more controversial statements that santorum has made. let's play you a speech that is getting attention. >> a father of lies has his sights on what you would think the father of lies, satan, would have his sights on. a good, powerful country. the united states of america. he attacks all of us and he attacks all of our institutions. we look at the shape of main line proestantism in this country and it's gone from the world of christianity. >> do you think we should be having a debate over religion right now?
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>> well, look, senator santorum is entitled to his views, we are not, you know, getting into that, we are talking about the economy. we are certainly going to contrast our tax plan with his, it's neutral as regards to where people ought to invest their money and his has a bigger tax break for one sector of the economy than it does for the other and that is picking and winners and that is what barack has done and we are not going to do that. we will cut taxes across the board and that will grow the economy. >> does romney believe that some of the other people that have been questioning the president's religion and bringing up the whole question of jeremiah wright s that an appropriate challenge to the president? are knothose issues we should b addre addressing? >> every campaign has to talk
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about the issues they feel are at the forefront, romney gave a good speech at cpac and talked about social issues and what he did in massachusetts, it's a strong record. the issue that is more in the minds of the voters is the economy. we have been languishing with unemployment above 8% for the longest time since the depression. you have to decrease the size of government and put more money in the people's pockets. that is what the plan is b. >> thank you for being with us. what is the president's plan today. coming up next and panic at the pump, what is fuelling the hike in gas prices. and you have a question you want me to answer, join me today for a live web chat between 2:15 and 2:45. an accident doesn't have to slow you down.
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time -- tim geithner announced a corporate tax rate cut that comes to same day that mitt romney released his plans with tax cuts. gene spurling is joining us, a lot of construction behind you, gene. let's talk about the tax plan. first of all, you are talking about lowering the corporate rates, smoothing out deductions and making it a flatter fairer tax plan, give me your best argument why we should do this and why you think there's any chance in you know what that congress will go along in an election year? >> i think what you see ises
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that place where there's some agreement. and people should not give up on us getting things done that are good for jobs and growth. this is part of the president's plan, to eliminate deductions and loopholes so we can have a lower rate and a lower rate for manufacturing and ensure that there's a basic minimum tax on foreign earnings so that we have a system where people understand that everyone's paying their share, but we are using those revenues to have lower rates and most importantly more incentives to create jobs here in the united states where we still need and continue to need more growth to strengthen the recovery and expansion. >> by flattening it out and getting rid of corporate discussions, is it an attempt to help smaller businesses, because
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the big corporations will find ways around anything that you do, what about the small businesses that cannot find ways around the taxes? >> well, two points, what is important is we are making it simpler so it will make it difficult for corporations to get out of paying their taxes. that is why you want a basic minimum tax for foreign earning, there's no unquestionable amount of lawyering and parking money. it's simple, everyone has to pay a basic minimum on their earnings overseas. for small businesses we try to simplify the tax code for a small business to a couple of ways, i would mention, one by allowing smaller businesses to do cash accounting and second by having expensing up to $1 million for small businesses
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that means for almost all small businesses there's no schedules and complicated schedules, if you invest you get to expense it immediately. that is good for our expansion for our small businesses. >> mitt romney attack today president's approach. let me play it sglem >> a proposing a corporate tax plan that sounds like he is lowering taxes but he is raising them on businesses by hundreds of billions of dollars. >> gene? your response? >> the president just put forward a plan to reduce expenditures and reduce loopholes so we have a corporate tax rate at 28%, we can lower the incentive for manufacturer engine our country to 25% and have a basic minimutimum tax, o
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course you have to do it in a responsible way. we will not support plans where they cut corporate rates in a way that could balloon the deficit or make it have to be paid for by cutting medicare or other entitlements on other americans, you need shared sacrifice and shared responsibility and that means if you do corporate tax reform, you have to do it in a way that is fiscally responsible. that is what the president is proposing and that is what the public would overwhelmingly support. >> gene, a busy construction site before you. >> creating jobs. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and an historic event today in washington. president obama and first lady michelle obama and former first lady laura bush for the ground breaking of the national museum of african american history to national mall. they have been waiting for it
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. gas prices are soaring, and today, the national average for a gallon of regular unleaded is $3.57, most experts are pointing to tensions with iran. we have the author of the new book the remaking of the modern world and my favorite expert on all things energy. we are looking at the tensions with iran and the squeeze on
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global supplies and the risk premium that has been applied because of iran. >> yes, it's a threat of what is ahead. on the one hand, the u.s. and europeans are -- the aim here is to squeeze exports to reduce the revenues and iran's response is to threaten to close the strait of hormuz and dthe investigator came and the doors were slammed in their face. >> that two-day visit resulted with nothing. we are hearing threatening talk from israel, the former finance minister was saying that iran had the ability to create a weapon and delivery them across the ocean. we have not seen that kind of range. there's a lot of loose talk but that is adding to anxieties and that is adding to the price of
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oil. how high can the price of gas go assuming that there's no armed combat? >> you may in the $4 to $5 range and the sanctions have not started to bite wyet. >> when they kick in will we see a reaction from iran, so in a global market you'll not see any -- >> some people think that the oil will, with some dislocations move around, but i think that the japanese and south koreans, they are important importers, think they will bring them down quietly. and i do not think the chinese president was just here last week and his relationship is important. i do not think that china is
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going to go out of their way to increase their imports of oil. so there's a possibility of get ago squeeze here. >> the talk is that saudi arabia will make up what is not bought from iran. do they have the capacity? >> it's not unending but they have a couple of million barrel as day, which is the same as iranian exports, if it was just saudi arabia that was making it up, we had have a very tight oil market and we would see higher prices so will other supply be available later in the year t saudi s say they will meet the needs of their customers. >> in we have a military action that knocks out iranian production, are we talking $150 or higher a barrel? >> it's any scenario you want but the reserves will be put in
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place, and they were cread to deal with a major crisis in the gulf. this kind of face off could turn into something more like a major crisis. >> and a regional war that is a whole different story. >> right. >> thank you. >> the book is the quest, thank as lot for being here and up next. the explosion of anti-american ang their afghanistan and former senator russ feingold. a new belt. some nylons. and what girl wouldn't need new shoes? we talked about getting a diamond. but with all the thank you points i've been earning... ♪ ...i flew us to the rock i really had in mind. ♪ [ male announcer ] the citi thank you card. earn points you can use for travel on any airline, with no blackout dates.
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road. what worries you about what we face? >> here is the issue, there are a number of signs that are encouraging in the u.s. economy, wlits the fact that we created 243,000 jobs or the fact that the housing market is stabilizing, there's reasons to feel more optimistic, this time last year though you had a similar mood that got derailed by the euro zone crisis and the worry is that could we see the same scene play out again because of the euro zone crisis or the kind of potential for an oil price shock that you were talking about earlier in the program. >> and that potential exists out there, whether it's a shooting war or the fear of one in a lot of the saber rattling that we have been seeing back and forth. that could quickly derail economic recovery. >> it could be a drag. and this is the second time we
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have seen the year starting off with positive feeling in the markets and for it to be knocked off course. it's been an interesting conference in london the last few days to future of the energy markets and the kind of forecasts we have been getting have been alarming. you have jpmorgan talking about $135 a barrel and that could start translating to $4 for gas and potentially $5, and that will be nasty for a lot of u.s. consumers and again, it could be a dampnor on the democraskmek g. you have dualing tax plans today. are they nonstarters, election
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year reform tax proposals? >> it's just political shadow boxing. tax reform is on the agenda and heavens it only knows it is is needed right now to try to support the recovery. and the fact that people are talking about providing tax breaks for the manufacturing sector is important that we are all seeing signs of recovery there. in terms of concrete proposals we will not see much done until next year after the election. >> thank you very much, and topping the headlines right now here who "andrea mitchell reports," the veteran american war journalist, marie colvin, among the at least 13 people killed. the last interview she did before her death, she said the scale of violence was stunning. >> i'm on a street, house on this street have been hit,
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including the one i'm in. there are snipers all around on the high buildings. i think the sickening thing is the complete merciless nature, they are hitting civilian buildings without caring and the scale of it is shocking. >> marie colvin. and this is amateur video showing the house where colvin and the french journalist was killed, this has not been confirmed independently by msnbc. raids were trying crush rebels in another least three other towns. a team from the u.n.'s nuclear agency has left iran without a deal to get a closer inspection into the program. an independent inspection shows that the iran's research center may be more involved in research
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unanimous known. the appeal is being requested after seven people were killed in anti-american protests we are live where at least one of the deaths occurred. what is the military say background how the korans were burned, i think they claim it was an accident, but that is hard for people there to accept. >> hi there, absolutely, the commander of nato forces here, general john allen apologized for incident saying it was not intentional. u.s. soldiers were cleaning out a library in a detention facility in that base and they did not realize that, according to the military, that they were throwing out religious books until the afghan staffers saw what was happening. some of them were able to retrieve some of the burnt korans and took it outside of the base and showed it to
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religious leaders in the area, sparking outrage and many of the people frustrated, they feel the u.s. and nato do not respect their religion or their country. >> thank you very much. disturbing report. and he was a loner in the senate, standing up about the information on iraq. now a new book as america is facing new challenges. what have we learn inside senate russ feingold is the author of the book. you look at the period of 2002, 2003, where some would say there was a rush to judgment, a lot of bad intelligence and wrong assumptions were made and we ended up in a long war.
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where do you see parallels? >> after we got diverted to iraq, it led to an attitude of taking on al qaeda and invading a country and doing very little at all. we invaded afghanistan and iraq, and at the same time we are not paying attention to places like yemen and somalia. i am seeing a complete lack of interest on the interests of al qae qaeda. they are destabilizing somalia and ethiopia and kenya, and in northern after, there's a threat of an affiliate of al qaeda coming out of nigeria originally. in nigeria, have you a group that pulled off 60 or 70 attacks in the last few years including on u.n. facilities, and they
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appear to be similar. we are talk about iran, right now, understandable, but we have to learn to walk and chew gum at the same time. we have silly debate on the republican side that have little to do with the range of serious international issues that still remain. we have to reach out to the rest of the world and that is what my book is about, i think we have gone back to sleep after a resolution ten years ago not to do that again. >> one of the reasons some would point to for the low quality of debate on serious issues in the campaign is the fact that the campaign is being conducted by five or six millionaires that are financing super pacs so it's a complete turning on its head of the finance reform. you were known for mcca mccain-feingold and now after a series of rulings, after
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citizens united which did open the door to the super pacs, now what happens? and how do you put the genie back in the bottle? >> a part from the money issue, there's an attempt to not talk about the rest of the world by the republicans. they never mentioned somalia or yemen, because they do not want to give the president credit for his great successes in the international arena. the unlimited money it dumbs down the process, it's just personal attacks there's no room for discussion on the republican side about how about let's all talk together and work together. but all they want to do is try to find a way to attack the president on foreign policy where they know he is actually been a success. we need to put the genie back in the bottle, the decision has to be overturned and i believe it will be overturned. president obama will be
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is quote, would of, could of, should of. he will defend those remarks when he joins us. brian williams joins me now from new york with a preview of what will be a great interview tonight on nbc's "rock center," brian, we have come to know charles murray through the book "the bell curve" and his new book arguing a different genetic programming that could explain academic performance. >> i want to say at the outset, that we sat down with him yesterday in new york, last time i interviewed charles murray, he was coauthor of the bell curve, it stamped his life. one of his ideas was that iq was created by a lot of things and environment is one and he went there on the subject of race. and he paid a heavy price for
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it. this book essentially says, we are coming apart. it's saying that our society is degrading and we are splitting apart and when he gives an example -- well, i'll let you see one of the examples he uses between the classes in america. >> it's not particularly important if a truck driver understands the priorities of the law professor. you know? a truck driver has no influence over the law professor's law, it's a big problem if a law professor or a anchor at a tv show or a government official does not understand the priorities of the truck driver. they have to know what the truck drivers pay in taxes and that methamphetamine has been an
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issue in that community. he has to know that gas prices can crush the industry and know that highway laws and vehicle weight standards and all of that, so there are interesting points in here, andrea and he talks about how the elite class often embodies more of the so-called american values than the working class, marriage rates and attending church, it does make you think and i'm not here to defend the arguments or knock them down, it's a conversation worth watching tonight. >> it's another way of getting at this crushing problem of income inequality, growing income inequality which people believe is under mining democracy. just a word about the campaign, brian, you and i have watched them for a long time. here we are with all the economic problems and i was
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quite taken aback that we are talking about religion. >> as you know, i'll brag on you on your own broadcast, the reasons that your viewers see you once in this time slot and so many nights again for nbc nightly news is that i'm want to call on you for the fact that you and i have both been in this a while and sfiometimes perspective is good, last night was one of those times. here we are again, talking about religion and then it was dow at 13,000 and more on the economy. the voters have a funny way of deciding what is ultimately important to them at the polls. >> and it could be this year, gas prices, we have to wait and see, that is another trending issue. thank you so much. brian, we will be watching "rock center." and of course, what political story will be making headlines
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in the next 24 hours that is next on "andrea mitchell reports." he may not move like blues jam featuring the stone' front man, president obama showed off his hometown pride belting out "sweet home chicago" with buddy guy and b.b. king. >> come on. >> i heard you singing al green. so you started something. you got to keep it up now. ♪ you can do it. come on. you can do it. come on. whoo! sing it. >> come on. ♪ baby, come on, baby don't you want to go ♪
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which political story will make headlines in the next 24 showers? msnbc contributor jonathan capehart with the "washington post." we're looking at the last debate tonight before the arizona debate before michigan and arizona. they're going to face off tonight. we see that they met with jan brewer today in arizona. they're still there. >> there they are. governor jan brewer, governor of arizona who i would suspect that newt gingrich would go love to have her endorsement. the primary being on tuesday the same as the michigan primary. the debate tonight will be the 26th debate since last may, and as we've seen, particularly in the debates since september, that they are pivotal in determining what happens in the days ahead and the contests ahead. tonight we're going to be watching to see whether rick
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santorum can as you said to brian williams a few minutes ago, will he continue to talk about religion the way he's been on the stump? will mitt romney attack santorum to try to pull him down to win both the contests. what will newt do to try to get a third bite at the apple? and then ron paul, you know, what's he going to do to cover for mitt romney to help him gain some traction on rick santorum? >> all interesting. we'll be watching it all and talk to you tomorrow. jonathan, is tomorrow you're way too early doing sports. >> yes, tomorrow anchoring "way too early," and the beard comes off as well. >> 5:30 eastern. that does it for us. tomorrow on the show, former state department official and u.s. ambassador to nato nick burns on the rising tensions are iran. he's seen it all. my colleague tamron hall has a
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look what's next. >> great to see you. lunch rick santorum go there? some conservatives are urging him to stay away from his recent comments on religion and stick to the economy and jobs. santorum says he won't be silenced because he can defends everything he says, but will he go there tonight during the debate? that's one of the questions in our preview. plus politico's roger simon describes the republican presidential field as "not just weak but barren." roger calls the gop the party of "would have, could have, should have." he'll join me live next on "news nation." i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's new glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have 6 grams of sugars. with 15 grams of protein to help manage hunger... look who's getting smart about her weight. [ male announcer ] new glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes.
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