closely. show starts right now. good friday afternoon to you. i'm matt miller in for dylan ratigan. we're following the latest on those tornadoes baring down on the south and midwest. but we start today with independence day with just four days to super tuesday and slim pickings for democrats and republicans, could this man be the answers for voters crave something different? buddy roemer has officially dropped his bid for the republican nomination after being shunned out of the debates. he says he's putting country before party and is now seeking both the reform party nomination and the nation's first internet nomination. that's the americans elect nomination. where no matter your affiliation, everyone can vote in an online primary starting in may to get a third candidate,

though not necessarily a third party, on november's ballot. give a listen. >> for the first time, the american people are choosing a leader that works for us. not just the parties and special interests. we the people are nominating a third choice for president. a candidate who will reach across party lines to form a balanced ticket. instead of two choices, any leader can run. instead of a lucky few, every voter counts and instead of parties that fight each other, we're picking a president who will fight for our future. >> more options to get past the anti-government jihad of the gop and the timid half measures of the democrats. this could be the first step to shake things up in a political system that desperately needs sop shaking up. with us now, independent candidate governor buddy roemer. welcome, governor. this had to be an interesting decision for you. i've been a big fan of what

you're doing. walk us through how you decided to go this route. >> i have for the last 22 years, i have been a republican. i was the only governor in american history to change parties while in office. louisiana was a one-party state, matt, if you remember. when i looked at the legislat n legislature, had 144 members. 138 of them were democrats. a one-party state is no debate, no second chance. it was a corrupt state, if i can say that. we had the highest unemployment rate in america. so i changed parties. i was governor of the state. became a republican. we built a two-party system. and the state has improved not just because of republicans, but democrats got better as well. i ran as a republican for the nomination of my party for president of the united states. there have been 23 nationally televised debates, and i have not been included in a single one. maybe that's a smart idea, but i'm the only person running for

president who has been a governor and congressman, and the only person running for president who never took pac money, won't allow a super pac to be picked for me, and limit my contributions to $100 or less. here's my dream, matt. i dream that we can have a president, a woman or a man, who is free to lead. who doesn't worry about building a party. but worries about building a nation. and can call on democrats and republicans to join him or her and let's get this country right again. >> now governor, as you seek the nomination, which is going to involve 50-state ballot acts that americans will have later in the year, the voting starts in may. right now, there's still not very broad awareness of this among the american public. how do you think this is going do you plan to court supporters for this vote? >> we had a rally today at new york university. we're working the country.

running for president. there will be other good people run too. you have already said it's not well known. but shows like yours and dylan's give us a chance to explain if you want another choice, you can get on buddyroemer.com or americanselect.org and see how to do this. it's open to every voter. you don't have to change parties. you don't pay a fee. you go through a little sign up operation that takes about five minutes. and you could pick a president free to lead. now other people who will run, and there will be plenty of people running, won't have my issue. they won't be reform candidates. and i will make my case across the country that we need a reform candidate before we can do budget reform, tax reform, immigration reform. we must do political reform. i think washington is bought and

sold. >> tell us a little more about what you think on campaign finance reform. obviously, a huge theme of dylan's show. i saw you on "morning joe" the other morning talking about a goal or aspiration of a million voters giving $100 each. that would give you the grass roots you need to potentially be competitive. say more about where you want this to head. >> if i can get known well enough and people like my ideas and like my record in louisiana and like what i did in the united states congress, when as a democrat i worked with president reagan across party line to rebuild america. if they like those ideas and can join with me, i need a million people at $100. that's my limit. to raise $100 million. that would be more money spent in this election than spending the entire republican primary so far. i'm not against money. what i'm against is big checks from a special few who have

special interests. you won't get tax reform. you elected obama. you didn't get tax reform. you elect mitt romney, you won't get tax reform. you'll get more of the same. special deals for special people. and i hope to make the case when the earth is still and america is listening, make the case that we can do better. you know what we need? a president free to lead. follow the money. photo the money, matt. >> and so if you're free to lead, we don't have time for your full agenda, but what are the three big things beyond political reform, what are the three things the country needs to renew ourselves and be competitive in the 21st century global economy? >> fair trade with china, i'm a businessman. we need global trade. but by god, it ought to be fair. i have been to china many times. they do not trade fairly.

they are using us as suckers. i want that trade, but i'll tell the chinese leaders, it must be fair. level playing field. you'll keep your price advantage, but you won't make goods made by children and sell them in america. two, we need tax reform. it's not fair for ge to make $5.4 billion and pay no taxes. and the average working man pays $15,000. i want low marginal rates. i want it simple. i want everybody to pay their share. i want no exemptions, no double taxation, no marriage penalty, and no alternative penalty. we'll do it on a postcard and you get rid of your cpa and your tax lawyer. we'll be fair on taxes. and then finally, i want small business deregulation. and i'm very specific. we'll go back five years and forward five years and make a difference in regulations between the large companies who have lawyers and compliance

officers and lobbyists and smaller companies who are fast, flexible, focused, and friendly. they grow the jobs in america. if you let me slip in number four, we'll balance the budget in five years by reducing spending 1% a year. >> buddy roemer, we're going to be watching you. a pioneer in the americans elect process. people will be hearing more about that. good luck as you hit this innovative trail. we'll be watching. >> thanks. i'm excited. the other big story today. widespread tornado watches and warnings and the worse is expected now through the next four hours. let's check in with bill karins. >> devastating tornadoes have moved through the region. the town you'll hear about today and tonight and tomorrow is henriville, indiana. reports out of there.

about 600 homes. the town took a direct hit from a quarter mile-wide tornado. including the school that is there. we're going to try to get more information. they have had responders that are trying to get into henriville and finding it very difficult. they are calling for people to head to henryvill to help with the search and rescue. the storm has left the region. northern kentucky is where we're watching the worst of the storms. it went along the ohio river. now going through kentucky. if you're in walton, kentucky, or just south of there, the same tornado is still on the ground and heading for your area. you'll also notice the purple and reds. they are getting dangerously close to louisville. the strongest of the storms will go through louisville. there's not a tornado warning for louisville, but just to the west, there's a tornado warning. now is the time to gather your family if you're in the area.

moving at 70 miles an hour. they will be in and out in a hurry. we'll also watch nationally a little later today. and once again, we haven't reports of fatalities but it's not looking good in some areas of southern indiana. >> all right, bill karins, those graphics look very dangerous. we're going to stay on the storms and bring you more on it as it develops. also coming up, the big donor passion points. we'll talk about it with the friday mega panel. plus the gripping account of one army ranger's time on the front lines and what he thinks of the war now. all that and some tasty technology that's a big hit here in los angeles. look! the phillips' lady! we have to thank you for the advice on phillips' caplets. magnesium, right?

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it's no secret money talks in washington. an article is showing how closely candidates seem to be sharing the views of their biggest donors. like for example, how rick santorum speaks out about radical islam. and newt gingrich's stance on protecting israel just happens to line up with sheldon adelson, a man who to the pro-gingrich super pac. dylan may not be in today, but auction 2012 never sleep es. let's bring in the mega panel. we're joined by guy benson,

democratic strategist krystal ball, and taray. i wonder if we shouldn't from the candidates with the little logos. at least that would be the transparency we need. but at the same time, is this a chicken and egg problem? is the money people who have these views? >> i think it's subject. i like the nascar idea. so we know what really on. this idea when we go to the polls and pull a lever, voting is a little off base. what's really voting is when you're able to give money to candidates. when sheldon adelson is able to give millions to these candidates, they have an amount of control over the process that is unfair, unethical, that

clearly not only shapes the process in terms of guiding who stays in the race, but what they say this should not be part of the process. >> krystal, you have run for office before the super pac era. i don't know if you would have had sheldon adelson coming in and trying to sway your vote. talk about the dance between donors and politicians. is it corrupt as it seems? or do we make too much of it? >> here's the thing. and as you're stating, i've been the one on the phones begging for dollars. here's the thing. there is a feedback loop. sheldon adelson is attracted to newt gingrich because of his stance. but also you have the reverse happening where if that's the person you're spending a lot of time with, particularly if you have someone like sheldon adelson giving $20 million to

your campaign, a human being can't help but be influenced by that. even if we take out any intent, those sorts of incentives are very hard to avoid and not be paid attention to. and there's also the fact of special interests whether they are on the right or the left that ask you to fill out questionnaires and state your believes and put pressure on you to be with them on the the issues. and also hold a lot of money and a lot of sway for your campaign. all of those things corrupt the process and undermine the pub c public's faith in exactly who these candidates are and what they believe. >> so guy, do you share my passion to make this a kind of nascar decal disclosure? is this a problem at all? >> the question that you asked was a good one about the chicken and the egg phenomenon. we can probably debate that until the cows come home. as long as we're talking about money, there's another story

about senate democrats threatening private businesses against donating to republicans or maybe things won't turn out well for you when the next tax code is written. we saw this with green energy subsidies. there were big donors getting billions of dollars to companies they invested in. in exchange, they had deep ties to obama's fundraising in 2008 and beyond. so if we're going to talk about the issue seriously, i agree with krystal that we should talk about it on both sides, not just the republican side, which this particular story chooses to focus on. >> i'm sure we'll have a chance in other campaigns. i want to get to the assent of the culture wars and the presidential campaign. krystal, let me tee it up back to you. you have been making a lot of news with this whole idea that we're debating of contraception in the 21st century. when these issues we thought were settled 40 years ago is shocking.

but i have been hearing on our own network that you have been getting some traction getting advertisers ginned up to pull their ads from rush limbaugh after the slutty remarks he's been making. it seems to be the mattress companies pulling their ads first. should we make anything a about the fact it's the bedding companies that are most uncomfortable with this? >> i will add that this is unconfirmed, but auto zone is also pulling their ad. it's not just the bed companies. it's interesting that so many mattress companies advertise with rush limbaugh. but his remarks about sandra fluke calling her a slut, a prostitute, saying she should be compelled to release sex tapes have touched a nerve. he hit it this time. this has been a part of a series of events that have really got women, like myself, upset. we had komen and the pulling of funding for planned parenthood.

then the contraception scandal and the issue regarding that. then transvaginal probes in virginia. issues in texas across the country. so when he said this, it's set off a firestorm. there's an effort on twitter to boycott rush. that's the hash tag. there's also a petition online to say, you know what advertisers, i'm not patron newsing your business until you pull your ads and say you do not support this kind of trash. >> toure, i should be clear that krystal is speaking for herself and not this network, but broaden this out beyond rush limbaugh, if that's humanly possible. whenever the guy talks, he seems to take up all the oxygen because of the outrageous stuff he says. but why are we -- it's not even in the republicans own interest. people who can't find work, why

are we talking about contraception? >> of course, these cultural issues that matter to people on a personal, deep level are nice way or a distractor of those real issues that republicans aren't quite having the same traction on they hoped they would have one or two months ago. the unemployment rate is not where they thought we were trending. we must change the conversation. rush is uniquely positioned to be that sort of fire bomb thrower because he doesn't really have a boss. he owns his own show. he can say what he wants. this is not the position of don imus where he can get fired. he can push the conversation this way and say this is just rush talking. it's a really disgusting correction direction for the conversation. any krgs about contraception that doesn't allow women to do what they want with their bodies is bizarre to me. >> guy, i heard some theorize

that this was a plot by the white house to set this nerve in motion with what seemed to be their mishandling of the exemption on the mandate for health coverage that ended upsetting all this kind of stuff ablaze. ha people put down to strategy or conspiracy what is accident or total luck or bad luck. but what do you make of this? why are the republicans -- shouldn't they be trying to get off of that? >> we need to talk about the economy, but if we're going to say this as a distraction, it started when the democrats decided to put together this contraception mandate. there's a couple things to say. first of all, i'm not going to boycott rush limbaugh, but i also don't always agree with what he says and does. this case what he said about this young woman was completely offensive and inappropriate. but what was more offense to me, frankly, was this woman's testimony that she wants other

people to be forced to pay for her contraception, including the private religious institution that she chooses to attend. with all due respect, i don't think we're debating contraception in the 21st century. the question is should other people be forced to pay for other peoples' birthcontrol, including religious organizations. >> excuse me. i have to jump in here. >> this is going to be another segment some time. but if we didn't have employer-based health coverage, this whole thing wouldn't be an issue all together. it's so screwed up. the republicans use d to know w should be trying to get that way and obama tried to push that way. the idea it's being resisted is nonsense. >> the panel stix around. up ahead for all the talk about creating manufacturing jobs, isn't it time to start talking

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we're receiving reports of extreme damage in indiana from a line of multiple tornadoes and there's more to come. nbc meteorologist bill karins is back again. >> disturbing reports out of southern indiana as we expected. the clark county sheriff of is saying that the town of marysville is completely down. it's a little small town, but his little town is just gone off the map as this huge tornado went through. we're getting reports from the suburbs of cincinnati that debris is falling from the sky. the the tornado was to the southwest of cincinnati. as it went through marysville, it picked up the debris, threw

it in the storm, and it falls 100 miles away. that's what people are looking at there in the cincinnati area. let me show you who is at risk. cincinnati getting a lot of heavy rain and gusty winds. you do not have a tornado threat. in between williams town and florence, that same tornado is still on the ground. we'll track them to northern kentucky. louisville, strong storms just rolling through downtown. louisville, you have been lucky. a lot of the weather twoent your north. in between, it looks like the city proper, a sigh of relief. the worst of it for now is through. bowling green, some of the storms will be heading your way. everyone wants to know what's going to happen in the nashville area. we have a tornadic thunderstorm that is only now about 40 miles away from nashville. it looks like this storm should maintain its intensity and head

right through downtown nashville. these storms are moving at 70 miles per hour. that's as fast as anyone can drive on the highway there. you can't outrun this storm. it will be through the downtown nashville area in about 30 minutes from right now. that's the next story to watch throughout this breaking tornado outbreak. if you're in nashville, you have 30 minutes to try to make preparations. stay where you are but get to a safe spot with you and your family. that's around nashville. the storm is heading your way shortly. southern indiana, very disturbing news. a couple small towns may have been completely wiped off the map with debris falling 50 miles away in cincinnati. we'll give you updates on nashville over the next half hour. >> thanks for that, bill karins. anyone in the path of this, focus on keeping you and your family safe. we'll check in with bill and get the live report. turning to jobs, dylan spoke

during the 30 million jobs tour in miami about how to create not just more jobs, but more quality high-paying jobs for american. give a listen. >> 30 million good jobs, one thing we've got to do. we made manufacturing good work. it was crappy work. we helped unions organize. we improved productivity. we got workers involved. we have 60 million low-wage service jobs like hotels. we have to make them good jobs and create more. >> it's part of what he calls his blueprint for a 21st century workforce that focuses on our knowledged economy. joining us is richard florida, professor of school of management at the university of toronto and senior editor for the atlantic magazine. >> thanks. it's great to be with you. >> our panel is going to be asking some questions in a second. one of the things i'm glad you're focusing on is there's a lot of talk about manufacturing

jobs coming back to the u.s. in different multinationals are making efforts to relocate or insource some of those jobs. what people don't focus on is your raising is these jobs are paying $15 an hour without ample benefits. these are not your old middle class jobs. right? >> you're absolutely right. we're on track to generate 350,000 new production jobs. those are the the people who actually make things in manufacturing. not the accountants and the managers. 350,000 of those. what's kind of tragic is that many of the manufacturing jobs that will be on shore is part of this two-tier system where the incumbent workers make a good salary, when others, that's got to stop. we have to create better jobs. the other good news is we're going to create 20 million of dylan's 30 million jobs.

we're going to create 20 million by 2020. but half of those jobs, half of all the jobs we're going to create are in the low-wage routine service jobs. the people who prepare our foods and wait on us in hotels who are janitors and take care of ageing parents. one of the things that we have been talking about, and i know you and dylan care about, is we have to make those jobs better jobs if we want to have families supporting good jobs. >> toure has a question for you. >> richard, nice to see you. do you think we need a fundamental change in america in what we create and the way we create the things that we're selling to our citizens in order to create a class of new jobs that will help millions of americans get back to work? >> well, it's great to see you toure. we used to talk about producers and services. when i talked about the rise of

creativity, i see every american worker as a creator. you can create manufacturing on a farm. you can create a new company. or create those services. and i think we have to make the service jobs more creative jobs. those jobs are darn hard to outsource. you know, you can outsource manufacturing. you can move it to china. you can outsource some of the knowledge jobs, but the person who cuts your hair or gives you a massage, the person who prepares your food, i don't know how. maybe some futurist can event a robot for that, but those are called personal services for a reason. we have to make those 60 million jobs awe're going to create those. we have to make them better jobs. the way to do that is to go back of thinking of every person as a creative person. >> this is krystal ball. also nice to see you again. i was wondering if you can talk about the education component of

this. there's been focus about the changing curriculum and colleges, making sure more kids go to college, focusing on entrepreneurship. what about taking it further back? what changes do we need in k-12 to foster and develop the type of skills to allow kids to be successful in the new economy you're talking about? >> that's a great question. i think two things. one, we have to encourage every si single person in america to get as such education as they can. the difference according to the newest statistics is tens and 20s in thousands of dollars. we have to change, and i have written a lot about this. we have to change the way we deliver education. i have a ph.d.. i hated school. i talk to my nieces and nephews. their kids don't like school because we don't treat kids as creative kids.

it's better now than when we were in school, but we force them into this model. e we make them memorize. i think we should think of communities and neighborhoods as schools. not as this giant kind of factory for learning that we have today. if we're going to build a knowledge economy and see people as creative workers, we have to have an education system to match. and the time to do it is now. we have no more time to waste. >> it's guy benson. i love the atlantic. my question here is a lot of what you're saying in my mind makes sense. i'm wondering where does the government come in here in your view? what's the role of the government? should they be doing some of this training and education directly? should they be mandating? getting out of the way? how do you view the u.s. federal government's role in this vision of yours? >> well one thing i would like to do is see the president in a bipartisan way call a summit on making service jobs good jobs. e we can't get around it anymore. manufacturing is going to come back. we're going to create some jobs.

we're going to create knowledge jobs. they pay $70,000 a year. i'd like to see the president over the course of this campaign say i want every american to have a good job. i'm going to call together a summit commission. what's interesting is from zappos to rea to starbucks to whole foods, these companies are making service jobs better. there's just not enough of them. we need a national initiative. we did it with agricultural. we did it in manufacturing. we have to do it again today in services. >> thank you very much for that. if we head down that road, we'll have to talk about redistribution. we're going to e need to get health care off employers. we're going to need to get a mega version of the tax credit if we're going to get these service jobs to actually be more of a path to the middle class. thank you for provoking the conversation. and thanks to our mega panel.

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nashville is driving towards this tornado down interstate 40. i want to bring you those live pictu pictures. they are trying to see the tornado possibly. a very dangerous situation. they are flying down the road. the sky is getting darker and darker. you have seen some people pulled off to the side of the road. they know what's coming their way. the storm chasers from the nashville station are heading into the storm. hopefully, it won't be raining too hard, once it starts to really rain and pick up, they are going to have a hard time seeing that tornado. sometimes tornadoes can be rain wrapped. it may even sound like hail is hitting the windshield now, which is also the case if you get too close to where the tornado is. you can hear the pinging there. it could easily dent or shatter the windshield. that's live pictures from our nashville station. if you're on the west side of town, possible heading your way 20 minutes from right now. the sirens are going off.

get to your safe room. we'll continue to bring you these amazing pictures as we get them. >> thanks, bill. the weather channel's jim cantore joins me from indiana. what's it like there? >> you can see the dark and ominous skies behind us. we just had a squall line come through here. but some vicious tornadoes to our north that have just wrecked southern indiana. towns like henriville, reporting serious structural damage there. even injuries. possible loss of life. we can't confirm that though. a storm spotter saying large chunks of asphalt lifted and tossed 50 yards. that tells me right there, we're dealing with dangerous tornadoes. there's been a high school damaged in kentucky. nothing more important right now than nashville. the instability there is the same we have had up here in

northern kentucky and southern indiana. folks sending people home from schools and work and right now, we advise anyone that's even close to leaving nashville to just stay put and ride this thing out. stay away from windows in the city streets. especially if it comes roaring through town. back to you, matt. >> thank. turning to the unraveling situation in afghanistan. today we learned from military investigators that five u.s. soldiers were involved in the accidental burn iing of the hol koran, which unleashed a fury of anti-american protests that killed six american soldiers. our next guest knows this troubled terrain all too well. at the young age of 24, shawn parnel was put in charge of the outlaws. their task? close combat with insurgents. 80% wounded in action. the u.s. hasn't seen odds like

that since gettiesburg. we're breaking it down with shawn parnel. he chronicles his time in afghanistan in his new book "outlaw platoon." welcome, shawn. let me start by asking. you obviously have been in some of the toughest terrain and toughest combat that the american military can engage in. what do folks need to understand about what it's like on the ground in afghanistan? >> it's one of the toughest, most difficult places to operate on the face of the planet. we operated there for 485 days. just to put that into perspecti perspective. they jumped into normandy and fought to berlin in less than 485 days. for a kid like me at 24 years of age, drinking beer with college buddies the year before, it was shocking. >> talk more about the bomb that forms when you're engaged with a

group of men like this over this long a period. even when there's a larger political fight about should we be there, what's success mean, talk about the bond that forms in this brotherhood. >> if you spend 485 days with anybody, you're going to be close. you spend 485 days with men in combat, you become brothers. and that brotherhood essential for survival. when the bullets are cracking by your head, the only thing that matters is the man next to you and keeping that person safe. >> i read some of your book last night. really moving accounts including just the opening when you have a dead young girl in your arms during the first attack. when you guys were first in position there. how do you people get this? how do you cope? you're getting a ph.d. in psychology now as part of your own studies. what do people need to understand about the long after

effects of experiencing this kind of inhuman activity? >> well, part of being in combat means you have to go numb. there's a survival capacity with going numb. it allows you to experience horrifying things and numb. when you come home, the problem becomes for set vans is turning that back on. >> now, as you think about where this war is headed and the comrades still over there, what's your view now? you have doubts about karzai's reliability as a partner and the nature of the mission. having been on the front line, having fought so hard for your country in this war, what should we be thinking about? it's hard looking from outside to think it makes sense to be there at all at this point after ten years if we're still getting this kind of blowback every week with more soldiers being killed and trillions being spent.

>> it's absolutely frustrating. we fought, bled, and died next to afghans for the better part of ten years. for them to somehow question our intentions or our commitment is incredibly frustrating. especially to somebody like me and to my friends who have lost comrades there. >> and so where should this go? should we be looking to the military to change their tune on this? holding obama's feet more to the fire? even with the withdrawals he's talked about, he will end his term with more soldiers on the ground than when he began. >> we win every single fight on the ground. it's just a matter -- i think it's time for our politicians and military brass to move the ball forward in any direction. we need decisive leadership now more than ever. >> all right. sean parnel. the book is terrific and gripping. it captures the nobility of this kind of bond and this kind of

incredible warrior effort, even in a larger mission that many of us may think is misguide. thanks for coming by and taking the time. >> thank you for having e me. coming up on "hardball," chris talks with sandra fluke and her phone call today with the president. we all know he exudes a certain playboy mess teak, but he tells us why marriage matters. it's his turn for a rant. just after this. hey. this is challenger. i'll be waiting for you in stall 5. it confirms your reservation and the location your car is in, the moment you land. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. about providing for his little girl. hey don't worry, e-trade's got a totally new investing dashboard. everything's on one page. i'm watching you. oh yeah? well i'm watching you, watching him. [ male announcer ] try the new 360 investing dashboard at e-trade. we have to thank you for the advice on phillips' caplets.

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it's friday which means it's toure's turn in the daily rant. >> the institution of marriage is under attack.

40% think marriage is outdated. the divorce rate is surging and increasingly they are marching lonesome into old age. the divorce rate is around 52%. it seems that gay people who are fighting for marriage equality are agitating for the right to get into a club that's yesterday's news. but there's tremendous social and spiritual value in marriage. i can't stand silently by as the institution is attacked as though marriage itself is the problem. marriage is valuable. it is transformative. it's worth being part of. i proposed in paris. as we flew home, the steward decembers gawked at her ring and looked a the me and thought i was a real man. it's like showing you have graduated to another stage.

the family stage. humans can't help but respect people for doing something meant to perpetuate the human race. i see the value of marriage internally because marriage is not always easy but the effort to make it last is worthwhile. marriage connects you to something bigger than yourself. you gain a responsibility to family that emerges in small ways like not leaving your socks on the floor and medium ways like learning to compromise. and in large ways like being propelled to fight the good fight to provide for your family. rather than wanting to succeed because it boosts your ego and status and self-image. especial lip for men, marriage can make you a better human being. because there's just something about the right woman that helps you mature into the man yourself supposed to be. my wife says if i listen to her, i'll get there one day. it's a cliche to say next to every successful man is a great woman, but it's true. i love my wife and i need her. and i wouldn't be who i am with all that i've gotten from being

married to the right person. this country needs more education about how to keep marriages alive. maybe free counselling as part of health care. but we do not need fewer marriages. >> toure, i love that. i hope your anniversary is coming up soon. you should be replaying this once a year. i love my wife and i agree e with all this. the right person makes you a better person. is there a wife school they go to learn to say that to us to make us feel more grateful? >> i don't know if it's a wife school. i think there's something about women and when they connect with you in the right way that they can help you get mature faster. i think they are a little more mature than us at the same age. they can help us become better people. >> just a second left, but i love the idea also of more counseloring about how to get in marriage. mandatory