msnbc takes you behind the walls of america's most notorious prisons in a world of chaos and danger. now, the scenes you've never seen. lockup raw. >> inside prisoner jail regrets are never in short supply. >> they actually killed an innocent kid. that haunts me. >> as if watches lockup isn't warning enough for some.

>> i'm just telling you -- >> this is the place where people come to die. >> prisons and jails use inmates to warn troubled teens before it's too late. >> you have an hour's worth of tape. >> others express regrets with personal cameras, we call inmate cams. >> i just wish i could do it all over again. during a dtypical interview we have our producer, audio technician, associate producer and various staff members in the room kind of surrounding the inmate. it can be difficult to get an intimate interview with so many people around so we created the inmate cam, where it's basically a small digital camera we give do the inmate. >> it's already turned on for you. >> they can take it in their cell, turn it on, press record,

and the results are dramatic. >> we are the world surrounded by serial killers, one eye like cyclops, fire balls falling from the sky, mud slides the man can't explain why it's snowing in the summertime with christian vice lords, truth is we blind dude, time goes by. we doing good, doing bad in the last days. >> wabash lock up extended stay. and held, yeah, stay is extended. judge gave me 50 years. 50. that is five decades, man. i'll walk you around my cell, man, show you what is going on in my cell. show y'all where i live, how i

live. that is my bed. it ain't that thick, you know what i mean? it's my window. this is my window, that is the gate te gate teasing me with freedom. there are cars going by going places i can't go. >> i look out the window a lot. a lot of inmates have hope and aspirations of going home. because of the nature of my crimes, the brutality, the h heinous and gruesome events that occurred, i know that i'll never see the streets again. >> this right here, as pathetic, this is my pillow. doesn't nobody touch it. ain't nobody going to touch it, you know? i put my head on it, i cradle it

at night like it's another person, you know? because it's one of the things you wish you had, you know, do i want the company of another person here? hell, no. that is another thing i don't understand, but i ain't going to get on that subject. >> whether we give them the cameras, we have no idea what we'll get. it has been amazing, really. they come up with these great angles, come up with fascinating stories, funny. >> i got $100 bill on my [ bleep ]. >> often heart breaking. >> i think about my little boy. keep his pictures under the mat. man. i don't know. >> i don't have no kids, i don't have no girlfriend. >> phillip stroud, serving life without parole, used his inmate cam to reach out to the families

of the three men he murdered during the robbery. >> every day, every day i have to live with what i did. i coul, not for the sake of me being here, i been locked up my whole life. but so y'all can have y'all loved ones back. >> is this place stressful? hell, yeah it's stressful. one of the stresfulest things you can do. this is what i wake to every morning. a steel door and place of glass. they count the rolls of toilet paper you get. this is what you get every week. four rolls of toilet paper.

three khaki outfits. one coat, two blankets. everything is counted in here. >> now you're recording. >> for joshua coffee, who was sentenced to six years for burglary, the only thing more frightening than prison was the thought of leaving. >> i got nine days, i got nine days before i'm thrust back out in society and i'm not free. nobody thinks about freedom as something to be nervous about, you know, because everybody that ever does anything wrong or is scared to go to prison. i'm damned near scared to go home, you know? and the bad part is i got a family that loves me. you know? they might not understand me, they might not agree with the

things that i do but ultimately they love me and know that. and i hope i don't let them down. >> hello, everybody. it's me, the stone. >> james stone wishes he had coffee's problems. he's serving 101 years for attempted murder. >> that is everything i pretty much got right there. you're not allowed to have a whole lot here. >> he's served 26 has another 25 to go before he's even considered for parole. >> i know one guy, i won't mention his name, he gets out next year. i think it's may the 1st of next year. for his third murder. third murder. he's been locked up for three murder bits, an because he keeps taking plea bargains, that makes him better than me.

this guy killed three people and drived we gangland shooting crap. he can't hit his target. maybe that is why lady justice is blind. she don't want to see this. it don't make no sense. >> several inmates use their inmate cams to offer a word to the wise. >> don't come to prison, man. >> warning others not to make the same mistakes they made. >> being locked up is real lame, it's not a game. no movie, no rap song. when it goes down and you get popped, this is what it's going dob be man. >> when your buddies want to join up with their clique, their gang, sell a crack, get $200 or $300 from the liquor store, or something like that, just think about that. is it worth it?

really? >> this ain't the place to be. this here, this is where you come when you're scared. of living life. this is where you come when you've given up, basically on everything else. >> look at your family, look at yourself. see what you really got to lose. >> this is the future right there. bam. coming up. >> sweating,s s ttoss and turn hearing the kids scream. >> awaiting trial for murder, an inmate repudiates his former gang life. >> i don't want this lifestyle for no one. they use you and spit you out. [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego.

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many inmates say coming to jail made them reassess their lives. if not drastically overhaul them. we can never know with certainty how sincere those claims are. but when an inmate repudiates his gang as daniel did it lends credence to their story. >> i ran the streets, grew up in the streets, life in the streets. what you see is what the streets created. >> we met miramontes at the orange county jail. he said before coming here he was a member of a los angeles street gang and meth addict. seems out of sorts with a young man who enjoyed reading novels and writing poetry. >> i like nicholas sparks, note

book. >> romantics. >> i'm a sucker. >> do you cry when you read the sad part? >> most guys don't want to admit that because hey, we're in jail, i don't care. >> but miramontes was facing the possibility of a lifetime in prison. >> been down almost two years, my charges are special circumstance murder, big case. >> miramontes entered a not guilty plea, still awaiting trial when we met him. the night of the murder, he says he was visiting friends in an orange county gang and they were all drinking and high on drugs. while driving around their neighborhood, his friends stopped to confront a 19-year-old man, who allegedly flashed a rival gang sign. >> what ended up happening was the orange county home boys exited the vehicle, a fight ensued which turnd in a stabbing which turned in a slashing, and

the victim's neck was cut, and he bled to death at the scene. >> miramontes admits to being in the car but never participated in the murder. >> i'm from l.a., i'm not from orange county, why bother getting in the mix? so i just decided to stay in the car. one of the situations you're in a bad place at the wrong time, you know? i was there, so i'm here now. facing a long time. >> miramontes says even though he wasn't involved in the murder he's paying a price beyond just being in jail. >> nightmares, sweat, toss and turning, hearing the kid scream, falling. just plays in my head sometimes. later on we find out the little kid wasn't even a gang banger, i

feel bad because they actually killed an innocent kid that didn't gang bang. that haunts me. >> though miramontes maintains his innocence this this case, he admits to past violence with his gang. >> well the things i did was little thing, you know, shoot i was with a different gang, never killed no one. i'm not a murderer, i'm not a hard core gangster. my thing were drugs, weapons, money. easy. i had a good -- i graduated with 3.17. i'm a certified electrician. i started hooking up with different people, older friends, older guys, serious business. so i was easy money, i'll do

that favor for you. >> what was easy for you? >> delivering, here or there. >> delivering what? >> meth. they used me to do all the runs. was i getting paid good money, yeah. was it worth it? not really. but that's one thing i thank god for being locked up is because when i was in the street, oh, man, it was bad. i would have been probably dead within a month, a week, a year, the way i was going. i really didn't care what i was doing. hanging out in the streets all day, there was one time i didn't sleep for like four or six days, just running around here and there. using meth a lot. maybe that's why i'm so skinny. >> miramontes has forsaken his

gang and now housed in protective custody but he says it's worth it. >> i don't want this life style, look where it got me, you know? they use you, spit you up. >> hishis analogy is like bubbl gum, you chew it up fresh and spit it out. that is his analogy of the gang. he was used when he was soft and vulnerable and once he got hard and stale, they spit him out. >> i have to ask you this, you talking to me about a lot of your activity on the street, does that put you in any danger? >> if it happens, it happens. i'll just try to give a message out to are, to people out there that the gang life is not good. they use you and spit you, killing an innocent little kid is not good.

you want to kill somebody that took your brother's life? go ahead and do it, just don't kill innocent kids that don't gang bang, that's bad. >> but it's okay to kill another gang banger? >> if he killed your brother. if he shot your house. >> but what does it stop? >> it doesn't. i guess it keeps going until they kill you or you kill them, you get busted for life for killing that guy or he gets busted for killing you. it doesn't. >> while awaiting trial, miramontes made a conscious decision to not let jail bring him down. >> i love it out here. this is paradise. you could picture background noise, water running, my imag e imagination plays it as an ocean. being in here is like i'm in hawaii or something. better place than being in jail,

right? >> although he could face a live sentence if found guilty, he has chosen optimism over pessimism. >> don't think negative. no matter how dark the world gets, just laugh. just laugh. there is nothing else to do. laugh when the pain is too much, that is what i do. i live my life by my own philosophy. in here is yesterday was a dream, right? but tomorrow is only a vision. so make every yesterday a dream of hope and tomorrow a dream of happiness. coming up. >> right now i have six staff members, 384 inmates in this gym. very dangerous. >> one of the nation's most infamous prisons is bursting at the seams. ♪

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>> there are approximately 2.3 million people doing time behind bars in america. more than china and russia combine. we witnessed overcrowding,over wheel manying conditions that lead to a dangerous environment. >> this is a zoo, an animal. >> our first ever extended stay series was shot at california's fabled san quentin state prison. it was home to more than 5000 inmates. when we shot there, robert airs was the warden. >> we are grossly overcrowded, which is just totally unacceptable for the inmates and the staff. >> you been here before? >> no. >> stand on the fence right there. >> the in-coming population at san quenton was releaseless,

with staff releasing 150 inmates each week. but welcoming 350 new ones. >> let's go, gentlemen, let's go. clear the door. >> many of them wound up in the gym, which had been converted in a huge overflow housing unit. >> whether i first walked in the dorm at san quenton i was taken back by how many people were backed in the small area. very loud. >> james, report to the lieutenant's office. >> always people talking, people yelling, some people in there were trying to read and some were trying to sleep, you have a big group of people having a big conversation over here, while a guy is trying to sleep over here. most people tie towels around their head to block out the noise. >> officers strive to maintain order in this potentially dangerous housing area. through regular inspections for

weapon and other contraband. >> go unlock the locker, man. >> come on. >> lungily i don't have nothing illegal as long as you don't go in my locker. >> you have gangs, weapons, so it can be real dangerous at times. >> hey, ho, gentlemen! >> i have six staff members, there is 384 inmates in this gym, very dangerous. >> gentlemen, on your rack, on your rack. on your rack. >> with so many inmates crowded in the gym, correctional officers are challenged to keep minor confrontations from turning in chaos. >> it's telling me how to run my life. >> are you cool?

>> he will get p[ bleep ] in my book. >> just watch, listening, getting a feel for the dorm. if you're watching you can tell when somebody is starting to go bad, hopefully stop it. the inmates have to share the rest rooms, showers, day room areas, so respect is a big thing in here. inmates respect each other everything is fine if you come in a disrespect issue that is where things get sketchy. >> during our stay at san quintin, we witnessed one small but dramatic step the prison was taking to stem the flow of inmates. coming up. >> every man in this building has a date they will die. >> a group of teenagers learns the cold hard facts at life at san quintin. >> if you want to use your rest room, this is what you put yourself in. [ laughs ] dad! [ laughs ] whoo!

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police identified john schick as the man who opened fire in university of pennsylvania. witnesses never discussed the issue of homophobia with dharun ravi. the occupy wall street movement may be penniless by month's end. now back to lockup. built in 1852, home to california's death row, san quintin state prison was bursting at the seams due to overcrowding when we shot our extended stay series there. but san quintin had one program designed to discourage troubled teens from ever joining the ranks in the future. >> okay, gentlemen, this way.

>> through the squires program, selected inmates shared experiences with teenagers, who had already had run-ins with the law. >> what we need to you understand you're in san quintin this morning, in a place no kid should ever want to be in. you should be out playing somewhere in the park but you're hear because of something you did. >> what is your first name? >> angel. >> how old are you? >> 13. >> miguel, i'm 16. >> jonathan, i'm 16, too. >> what you want to know this is your life, man, you have an opportunity to leave out of this place and never come back. >> let me introduce myself to you i'm david. i'm about to be 25 years old i have been in prison since i was 15 years old more for murder. >> david monroe was serving a 15 year to life sentence after having pled guilty to second degree murder many.

>> i banged before. i have been on the streets before. i'm from stockton, everything you guys said you did, you think you did, we did it. >> it's about us not scolding the kids, not a scared straight but try to give you the communication like look man this is what i did, and this is what it got me. this is the trophy, this is what you want to earn? most kids they don't. >> do you want to come to jail at 15 years old come to prison and have to be on the yard, stand up, let me see how tall you are. this is me when i came to prison. >> they are 15, and they look at me like oh my god, are you serious, that is what i get, 15 years old they locked you up, can they do that? >> at 15, monroe's involvement in gang violence changed his life forever. >> they say if you carry a gun

you will use it. we were with a girl having fun. i seen somebody walking by, we had a confrontation, i asked him questions is about his gang affiliation, if he had problems with my gang or street or the red period, he said yes, and me trying to prove myself to my peer, i'll show you i'm down and i reacted and shot him six times and murdering him for a color. >> i never planned to commit a robbery, he never planned for his future to be a murder, he never planned for his life to be committing attempt murder. all came about by behavior and life style we chose. say you do a robbery, what do you think will happen? >> you get caught and go to juvie. >> what about your mom? >> she will be sad, cry. >> and hurt. >> yeah. >> and you're shaking your head, you know that can happen to your mother, too. >> yeah. >> y'all know this why would you put yourself in that situation? >> you have to take a risk

sometimes. >> take a risk sometimes? >> yeah. >> you don't think about it that is the part about being a juvenile, you're not fully thinking what you're doing, you're trying to be cool, trying to fit in. i'm offended by what you said and i'm putting myself in your mama's shoes, you telling me you're willing to sell your mama out. >> it was worth it. you take a rise to be do it. >> i don't care what you say ain't nothing worth my mama to me. you guys aren't paying attention how you hurt your mom. >> monroe never realized how his crimes would hurt his own mother. until the day he was sentenced. >> when the judge said you're a cold blooded murderer and charging you an adult to be sentenced to 15 years to life in prison i heard my mom scream. it was a horrible feeling, like physically, emotionally, mentally it was horrible. i put my head in my lap and i cried. >> the boys are given a preview

of the stark conditions they might face if they ever enter the california prison system. >> i want to get a good look at this rest room. this is where you will use the rest room. look how they take care of this place. do you want to use this rest room? you come to prison, this what is you're putting yourself in. because you have no privacy once you're in prison. that what is you guys are coming to. >> the boys are then taken to the prison block holds those condemned to death. >> first off i want to let you guys know that i seriously hate this place right here. this is the place where people come to die. every man in this building has a date they will die. you guys know the exact day you're going to die? that is none of our intentions is to murder somebody, die and be a big old gang hero. we try to educate them, they need to know what they are doing wrong and how to change it. >> you can make a difference

today you don't have to wait until you get to condemned row. you can deep your birthday and don't know your death day. you can do that, it's up to you. can you guys do that, are you willing to take that chance? >> what i got out of it was i don't want to end up in jail i have to start watching what i'm doing, making better choices. one little messed up choice could ruin my whole life. >> the thing i learned i don't want to be here, it ain't a good place to be. >> has to come within you, you have to want to change. >> i can't give my victim his life back but i can save somebody else's life because of what i did and i hope his family knows that what happened to him is not in vein, some people are being saved. >> y'all take care, man. take care. hopefully we don't see you again. that is the hope. >> san quintin is one of numerous prisons or jails across the nation where inmates and

staff provide cautionary tales for troubled youth. at suffolk county jail in boston, massachusetts we encountered another program called jail break. >> you experience what it is to be in jail empty everything out your pockets, put in a locker, take everything out of your pockets. hat, take the hat off, show respect. take everything out of your pockets, bus passes. >> when we film in a prison or jail, we do our best to be a fly on the wall. in the case of jail break, the kids came in, and yeah, they were definitely aware of the camera. >> are you scared? >> how about you? >> no. >> are another not scared right now? >> no. >> no reason to be scared, to tell you the truth. >> i don't think it was the camera that affected them in the way they had an attitude or

certain bravado it was more relating to age. >> everybody stand up. right over there. right now all you have to do is empty your pockets, take your jackets off, nothing around your wrist, in your ears or in your pockets. everybody over here. put has to uniforms on over your clothe, hurry up. >> the kids are from the boston public schools, they were suspended from school because of something that they did. >> tucked shirts inside. >> once they have the uniform on and i start yelling at them and talking to them in a way that they know that i'm in control, then they don't know what to do, they break down. >> you're 12 years old, dude, 12 years old you want to cut somebody. assault somebody, okay. keep on smiling like it's something funny here. keep your mouth shut. >> 16-year-old damon pulp who

was caught with marijuana, appeared determined to not break down. >> you're in jail, 16 you'll be 17 in a month. you're on this attitude like you're too good to be in this place. you'll run there case, are you kidding me. are you kidding me. you think you are -- >> i got goals. >> de . >> tell me about your goals. >> entrepreneur and possibly take over this jail. have a home like donald trump, collecting money, writing checks, possibly writing you a check, you know? >> that sounds great. >> i tell you what your goals are you will be in one of these units in a month. i'll give you less than that, okay, 17 years you walk through the back door and you won't leave you understand me, you will not leave. that is what is going to happen to you, that is where you're going. put your arms out, put your thumbs down. all the way out. >> i don't have big enough for him. tie his arms together he's not

strong enough to break that. >> these are mad tight. >> they are not made for comfort. >> get used to them. keep your mouth shut. >> what did i do to you? >> i don't like punk little kids. i didn't disrespect you. >> you're in my jail, keep your mouth shut. that is what i want you to do right now. pick you are your feet and move. >> the boys are escorted in the jail. and placed in separate cells. >> face that corner right there. are you making your mother proud? >> no. >> are you going to change your ways? >> yes. >> you got a friend coming, right? you got a roommate. are you ready for him? oh you are, you're ready for him? >> coming up. >> take your sneakers off, plp mr. tough guy. the kids meet the inmates.

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during our extended stay shoot at suffolk county jail in boston, three inmates pre selected by jail staff were about to introduce themselves to four young men participating in the jail break program. >> the 12-year-old in cell 1 is here for cutting his teacher. >> what's up, man? what's up. how old are you? >> we have two fireworks in school. >> what's up. what are you waiting for? >> marijuana in three. [ bleep ] this is funny, huh? >> marijuana in four. >> this is a game. >> one in four is 16, birthday next month, heart beat away from being in here.

>> it's going to end you in jail. >> take your sneakers off right now [ bleep ], take them off tough guy. >> they take their shoes away, something they know that happens in jail we tell them. >> take your sneakers off. put your hands up. >> you like to smoke weed, huh? >> what are you crying for? >> take the smile off your face. >> why are you crying now? >> what did it feel like to you? >> i don't know. >> it didn't scare you? >> kind of. >> kind of what? >> kind of like scared and all that, just kind of. >> i saw you crying. >> no, i wasn't. >> did he cry? >> he did. >> why are you crying now, you weren't crying when you cut your teacher. >> you cut your teacher?

>> back up. >> you are not in that position. >> this is what you come to jail for, a pair of these, right? i'll take them from these. these are yours? i'm keeping them. you can have those, take those. >> you brought those, right, you can have those. you want them come take them. let me see you take them. yeah. that is what happens in here. every p[ bleep ] day. i'll take yours. i'll take yours. and you won't do nothing about it, you understand? you understand me? >> yes. >> i can't hear you. do you understand me? >> yes. >> all right, guys. hurry up, let's go. >> it's not often you see the inmates working together toward a common cause once the kids were brought in that unit you could tell that everyone was

there to put the fear in them. >> give me them sneakers! >> come on in here. >> while the three younger boys seemed shaken at times, 16-year-old damon pope maintained his nonchalant attitude. >> can you tell me what time? >> what did i tell you i don't care how much you paid you're in jail. you're in jail. welcome to jail. your back to the wall. >> we followed the kids up to one of the housing units to see where one of their next bedrooms could be if they continued on this path and i think that was probably one of the scariest parts for the kids, idea of being locked up in a cell.

>> get in there, welcome home. there is only two beds, you have to share beds. have a seat, make yourself comfortable. that is where you're going to be. >> you want to cut people. >> you want to cut people. >> they can't let you out the door when you want to go home. >> go in there i'll put you in there. >> we got something for you. put nem in here. >> i want his shoes. >> he's going in there. >> you want to go in there? let's go. >> you got a boyfriend? >> he's sleeping on bed with me. >> this will be you, this is it, this is -- right here, it's steel. it's bars. that is your home, that is your bed. >> you got to stay in one room the whole time for every day of

the year, for how long you're here for, that's crazy. >> everybody out, let's go. >> stand over here. everybody else go that way. >> whose sneakers are those? >> mineful. >> they were yours, they are his now. ask him if you could have the sneakers back. you don't want to ask him? >> good. >> merry christmas, get out of here. >> are you scared you'll end up here? >> if i keep doing the things i'm doing, yeah. >> you have to go in the bathroom, take the uniforms off, fold them and bring them out to me. everybody understand? keep on making those noises. keep on making noises. >> i'm not. >> because you're walking out the front door doesn't mean you won't be back in this place. >> i won't be back. >> three weeks, remember that. >> google me. >> i'll check you on the

computer when you end up here. >> he will end up in here if he doesn't change. he's so close to being 17. at 17 you will end up in this place and he doesn't understand that. he thinks everything is a joke and he thinks he could do this. >> you're a good dude, no lie. you do your job well. >> hopefully i don't have to do my job with you. >> the other three, i think they learned their lesson. >> pope might have as well. nearly a year after the shoot, he had not returned to the suffolk county jail. ♪ coming up. ♪ ♪ ain't done no wrong >> inmates who use time to hum their talents. ♪ out in california ragu for years. [ thinking ] i wonder what other questionable choices i've made? [ club scene music ]

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doing time can result in endless boredom. or inspired new heights of creativity. >> this is a v-twin motor. >> this inmate to asked to be identified by his nickname lucky, used his time to create models to soap, foil and paper. >> i carve it out, tread of the tire, made out of soap, takes a long time. i have been doing it for like six years, and it keeps me from being depressed and angry and everything else. >> whether do these mean to you, what do they represent? >> i guess freedom. they got to be free to ride them. >> lucky's models were more than a hobby. he made one special bike as a gift to his daughter, whom he had never met. >> she is nine years old, never had her dad. and i don't know how to be a father so i don't know what to give her. i want to give her something she

don't have. >> we met christopher lashbrook at limon creatiorrectional faci in colorado. he spent his time with his music. it connected him to his father. the relationship was nearly destroyed by abuse. >> my dad tried everything to punish me, the slaps, kicks turned into punches and head butts, broken nose. >> there is no doubt about it he was abused at my hands. >> how are you doing? >> i love my dad. >> there is distance because i spent so much time incarcerated. the bond that kept him and i together was the music. ♪ >> you taught me how to play, man. >> he's a musician, he robbed it off on me, i have been fortunate to have the talent. ♪

in some cases, the prison sentence allows an inmate to discover a talent he might never have known he had. ♪ >> for clay lopez, a california state prison, doing time led him to the harmonica. >> i'm almost 50 years old i'll be over 50 when i get out, so i don't have a career or anything so i thought well, if i learn to lay the harmonica, i could at least pay my rent even as a street as a musician if i'm sober. i think i'll do okay. ♪ . >> i started to play the harp better when i lost a tooth. i started getting the twangy sound and i was never so happy to lose a tooth. makes the harp sound real good. ♪

>> you can play what you feel without reading music, and i've tried to play guitar, piano, all kind of stuff and i never went anywhere, not that i'm going anywhere with this, but i know a few songs, mostly hymnals, gospel songs and a few of my own and just, expresses me. >> lopez was serving a 20 year sentence on 27 counsts of burglary. his exposure to inmates serving life terms that inspired him to pay them tribute through his songs. >> i wanted to do something for the livfers. >> i can sing the last chorus. "ain't done no wrong since the

days of old ♪ ♪ out in california, ain't no other road ♪ ♪ when i'm carried away, in the coroner's car, someone tell the warden to please ship me to the dixie line ♪ >> the only way they will get out is when, well, when the angels come down and pick them up and take them home, that is why it has the train sound, see? ♪