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important story. as i've said, this is about the collision of idealism and cynicism. this isidealism and cynacism, wishful thinking and i think we put someone on the ticket manifestly not prepared to be president of the united states and i have a great deal of regret about that. >> i want to say to people there is nothing in the movie that absolves steve of any of the mistakes made in the palin selection. steve, it's on a loop on hbo, showing it all the time i have seen it twice now, i can't turn away when it comes back on. steve schmidt gets the last wor good evening, americans, welcome to "the ed show" from new york, less than 12 hours before the polls open in alabama, and mississippi, republican presidential candidates are flat out lying about gas prices and lying about job creation. you won't believe what else
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people in the deep south think about president obama. the shocking number the coming up next. this is "the ed show," let's get to work. one of my goals this fall is to run as president drilling versus president algae. >> from gas prices to religion, republicans are waging a campaign of fear to take down the president, and there is new evidence that it might be working. >> he is an avowed muslim. >> tonight, brad woodhouse of the dnc and michael eric dyson are here with reaction. does the hbo movie "game change" mean game over for sarah palin? >> for me, and the experience on this campaign is that there are worse things than losing. >> msnbc political analyst ri richard wolffe on the fallout. the limbaugh fall out, radio experts holland cook and eric boehlert have the analysis. sean hannity's harvard
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conspiracy theory was a bust but smeared the good name of professor derrick bell, tonight the late professor's widow joins me exclusively to defend her husband's memory. good to have you with us tonight folks, thanks for watching. republicans found their footing on their attacks on president obama. it looks like they are having an impact on the american people as well. all about gas. a new washington post abc news poll shows 65% of americans disapprove of the way the president has handled gas prices. a new cbs news-new york times poll has president obama's approval rating at an all time low? it's only one poll, but that is a number. and 54% of americans say gas prices are something the president can do a lot about. really? president obama tried to get out in front of the problem today. he did television interviews with local newschannels from eight key election states. >> the single most important thing to do is reduce our
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dependence on foreign oil much the fact we reduced our dependence by a million barrels a day, that over time will have a big impact. >> republicans are hitting the president for not increasing energy production in reality this is meaningless. over the last three years the united states paid an average of $2.64 a gallon while producing 5.4 million barrels of oil per day. in comparison germans paid almost the same, $2.69 a gallon. ge they produced 28,000 barrels a day. the facts haven't stopped newt gingrich from making his platform about gas prices. he hammered the president while trying to court southern voters. >> i think the biggest issue this fall is going to be drilling versus algae, going to be 2.50 a gallon versus $10 a gallon, which future do you want for your children and your country. >> more on that sound byte in a
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moment. it's not just gas prices getting republicans riled up in the south. public policy votasked voters o president obama's religion. we're still there, folks. in mississippi, only 12% considered the president a christian. 52% said he's a muslim. 36% said well, they are not sure. in alabama, the numbers were 14%, 45%, and 41% of the people in alabama, really aren't sure what faith the president is. three days ago, we saw more good news about the economic recovery in america. but the president is now forced to address persistent issue about his religion. >> when we start using religion as a bludgeon in politics, when we question other people's faith, we start using religion to divide instead of bring the
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country together, then i think we've got a problem. >> the root of this problem is at the doorstep of the mccain campaign from 2008. you don't have to look any farther than the recent hbo movie "game change" to see how this fire started to rage. >> senator mccain wanted me to congratulate you on a fantastic debate. you did a great job. >> thanks. tell john i want to bring up bill ayers and reverend wright, i think it's time to go for the jugular. >> you'll have to discuss that with your running mate i made it very clear he doesn't want to touch wright. >> i'll talk to him about it. >> sarah palin poured gasoline all over this fire. she helped start the misinformation campaign. >> now, this is not a man who sees america as you and i see america. our opponent is someone who sees america as imperfect enough to
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pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country. >> so what happened? sarah palin made it acceptable for republican voters to disdain the president for his alleged otherness. she fostered the pitting of american people against barack obama. and three-and-a-half years later, it is still a big problem for the united states of america, and of course the president of the united states and pretty much a major concern for his reelection campaign. but i have to ask tonight, the people of alabama, the 41% that really aren't sure, how much news do you have to watch to be sure? are these -- are we at a point in mississippi and alabama, that is not really what you believe but it's what you want to believe? it's what you cultureally want to believe because you can't believe a black man is in the white house and this is still
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your opportunity to defeat him. isn't our country better than that? you want to know why newt gingrich is going around telling people down south, especially in these two states of mississippi and alabama that he can get them to $2.50 a gallon for gas? because apparently they will believe it. how sad it is. where is idiotsville, mississippi, anyway? do they do polling there? i'm talking directly to the two deep southern states tonight, mississippi and alabama. get it together. president obama is not a muslim. he is a christian. and he called for the killing of the number one terrorist in the world, osama bin laden. did that reach the news down there? maybe the democrats in the mississippi legislature and maybe the democrats in the alabama legislature will step up and put forward a resolution to maybe turn this thinking saying that they proclaim that the president of the united states is a christian. come on, democrats, fight back
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down there. whatever happened to our 50 state strategy? the president is an american, he is a christian, he's not a muslim. and nobody is going to get you $2.50 a gallon of gas. nobody. get your cell phones out, tonight's question, will republican voters ever believe the truth about president obama? text a for yes, text b for no to 622639, you can go do our blog on the ed.msnbc.com, we'll bring you results later on in the show. joining me tonight is brad woodhouse, communications director for the democratic national committee, brad, good to have you with us tonight. >> thanks, ed. >> are you concerned about these polling numbers that this many people in two southern states think the president is not a christian? >> well, look, i should say we are maybe, but not really, we're not getting spun up over any one particular poll or any one particular finding. it's unfortunate, i would
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certainly agree with you about that. i mean the president has made clear his entire history has made clear, he's an american, born here, a christian. i mean the same people that wanted to attack him for attending services at reverend wright's church, a christian church, seem to want to question his religion, it's unfortunate, like the president said it has absolutely 100% no place in politics. because once this starts going both ways, you're dividing people on some very emotional turf. >> dividing them and making them believe a terrible falsehood about the highest office in the land, the man that holds that office. what about gas prices? the perception out there is the president isn't doing enough, how do you turn that around? >> first of all we need to have an honest conversation with the american people as the president as you outlined did earlier today. there noiis no silver bullet, i
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there was a silver bullet, president bush would have shot it. he didn't. because there is not. crude oil as the wall street journal and cato institute said they are not set by the president. >> it not energy independence right away it's the wall street speculators, and why can't the democrats get on board and say it's wall street speculation? surveys have shown there is what, almost 58 cents per gallon cast on to the price of gas at the pump because of the speculators, if the people in alabama and mississippi mississippi can't figure out what faith the president is, how in the heck will they understand wall street speculators? you have a heavy lift, don't you? >> certainly that is an issue and as you know the attorney general has a task force that has been looking at market manipulati manipulation, looking at oil speculation, but the truth is that look we're producing more
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oil and gas in this country than has been produced in the past eight years, oil imports are down, we have to reduce dependence on foreign oil, there is no easy answer to this crisis. demand is up in china, demand is up in india, and what iran is doing and volatility is contributing. >> good to have you with us tonight. appreciate your time. michael eric dyson, msnbc political analyst, georgetown professor and author of "can you hear me now." >> is sarah palin at the root of this issue and mccain campaign? i watched it over the weekend on saturday night, i mean that is where it started. that is the impression i came away with. >> she is one of the major facilitators of this. she is a woman of manifest unintelligence, ill informed, no historical perspective, she is a woman viable because she is able to articulate through rhetoric the perspectives of the far right and lunatic fringe, she
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engages in unlimited ceaseles assaults upon the president's morality, his image, suggesting that he's the ultimate other. and this does nothing good for the american politics of our country or the american public it only reinforces the divisions between us. >> here is a clip from republican congressman cliff sterns at a town hall meeting in florida where he was confronted about whether the president was born in the united states. >> all i can tell you is that the general consensus is that he has produced a birth certificate. the question is is it legitimate? and that's where we stand now. because i think -- i've seen a copy of it on television, but you know the governor of hawaii couldn't get what he felt was an original of the birth certificate. he tried do it and gave up on it so i think what obama is showing
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is a facsimile. >> music to the ears of the old and stupid. why don't republicans do what john mccain did and shoot the crazy theories down? >> it does contrast nicely with mr. mccain, senator mccain's val orour view point to suggest i won't get in the mud and slug it out by personal assaults. and we've seen this more recently with the assault on professor derrick bell and i'm glad i'll have his beloved widow on your show. people who are not informed well are trying to do the same thing now that they did to obama then and i think that the republicans stand up and say this is wrong. mccain's branch should prevail. >> if people believe in alabama and mississippi that the president is not a christian, will these bigoted attacks against the president get worse there year? your call. >> well, perhaps so but i think what will come in contrast to that are people who stand up and assert it's the right thing to do. i'm struck by so many white americans who see me and say
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keep up the great battle and the fight. they may be nixon's silent majority but a different way. out there with common sense, they understand the grand purpose of politics and know that obama is a true american and therefore i think at the voting booth they will register their most eloquent answer to this madness. >> michael eric dyson, always great to have you with us. remember tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen, share thoughts on twitter at ed show. how accurate was "game change" one former advisor said it was true enough to make him squirm. >> rush limbaugh is losing more advertisers an of a a han which that would change conservative talk laid yo, maybe. eric boehlert and holland cook, stay with us. the two trains and a bus rider. the "i'll sleep when it's done" academic. for 80 years, we've been inspired by you. and we've been honored to walk with you to help you get where you want to be.
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. the hbo movie "game change" showed how the disaster of the picking up sarah palin was. i'll ask richard wolffe if it
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ended sarah palin's dreams. virginia's governor refuses to talk about the war on women. righties spent the last week smearing a deceased harvard professor's good name. tonight, professor derrick bell's widow, my exclusive guest and she will set the record straight. no doubt. share your thoughts on twitter, using #edshow, we're right back. are you still sleeping?
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just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. the first technology of its kind... mom and dad, i have great news. is now providing answers families need. siemens. answers. for me, the experience on this campaign is that there are worst things than losing. >> if you had questions about sarah palin's competent ten see they ought to be answered by now. the movie "game change" showed america it dodged a political bullet. mccain campaign strategist steve schmidt says the movie got it right. >> it was very accurate i think for all of us in the campaign,
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it rang true. gave you a little bit of ptsd at times. >> schmidt and his team found themselves dealing with a vice presidential candidate disdratrt distracted, lacking knowledge and unprepared for the national stage. >> how do you plan on maintaining our alliance with great britain in the war on iraq? >> i think the united states has always maintained a great relationship with the queen and john mccain will continue to have an open dialogue with her. >> governor, the queen is not the head of government in england, she is the head of state. >> well then who's the head of government? >> the prime minister. >> even if you didn't catch the movie, you know how the story ends. schmidt says the end result of the 2008 campaign was the best outcome for the country.
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>> when a result happens that puts someone who is not prepared to be president on the ticket, that is a bad result. i think the notion of sarah palin being president of the united states is something that frightens me, frankly. and i played a part in that. i played a part in that because we were fueled by ambition to win. >> let's turn to richard wolffe, good do have you with us tonight. your basic take on what you saw on saturday night. >> ed, on any rationale basis this was a painful movie, frankly terrifying. i watched it here in austin, texas, the people had the same reaction, terrifying reliving that moment in the 2008 election when in the words of one of the pundits in the movie, she was a 72-year-old heart beat away from the presidency. it was painful and disgusting to watch the people who were responsible for this.
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and steve schmidt, god bless him for what he said and how honest and open he has been, he was one of the defenders of the president bush and dick cheney, you cannot question his republican credentials, but he was responsible and this movie goes in this, he was responsible for the reckless decision, in part, for this reckless decision to put sarah palin in this position and for sarah palin to think she comes off worse than the mccain aides who put her in this position shows how clueless she is. >> here is a clip showing the prep session for the interview with charlie gibson let's take a look. >> are you okay, governor? >> why aren't there mccain-palin lawn signs in alaska? >> well, mr. obama has five times the money we have. five times. and alaska has three electoral votes, and solid red. >> i'm concerned about my standing back home. todd and i are hearing things,
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and i can't talk to the alaskan press. >> what are you hearing? >> things, none of it is good. can you at least do a poll to check my approval rating there? >> governor, that would cost the campaign $60,000. >> i would feel a heck of a lot better if i knew where i was at. >> wouldn't the gutsy thing to do, go to john mccain and said this isn't going to work, she is not prepared, there has to be another woman, why didn't they deep six her if it was this bad? >> it was so bad that nicolle wallace, you haven't showed a clip of her yet, a loyal bush operative, loyal republican couldn't vote in the election because of sarah palin. that is what i mean about how shocking this movie is. the book and movie are both called "game change" this isn't a game. this is politics at the highest level, about responsibility for life and death of the troops, the jobs and welfare of the american people, and they clearly chose someone who wasn't ready for the limelight, wasn't
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ready for the election never mind the responsibility of the job. honestly if they realized this, along the way, they had a clear responsibility to say something, that at least didn't appear in the movie or from what we see in the book. >> here is schmidt on the vetting process. >> showed a process of vetting that was debilitated by secrecy, compartmentalized, failed that led to a result that was reckless. >> is this really, obviously an under statement, but it's also a wake up call to future politicians, you better get it right because mccain in his age, who know what's could have happened. this woman could have been the president of the united states. >> right, but look, ed, the primary contests we have seen playing out on the republican field. do you think they have taken it more seriously than that vice presidential pick? yes, this was the republican establishment, everyone says
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where are the leaders? the leaders at that time took those risks, and again i have a lot of respect for steve schmidt here and you have to give him credit for honesty and being frank at this point, but secrecy is always part of a vice presidential vetting, so there will always be that kind of pressure and secrecy involved. they rushed it. they wanted to throw the chess board up in the air, they wanted to treat it like it was a game, and for john mccain and people like steve schmidt to do that, that was the recklessness, they deserve more blame than sarah palin, frankly. >> richard what about her political future? if this is an accurate depiction of the campaign and the people around it say it, how in the world could she ever move forward politically? look, sarah palin has done more damage to her own career than any book or any movie. she did damage when she quit her job, did damage when she flirted with the presidency or presidential run, and never did it, and look, she is damaging
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herself right now. here is someone who wanted to go out and tell her story to the press and even now she is choosing not to engage with this movie, not to embrace the good bits of it and push back against the bad bits of it for her, her judgment is as wrong now as it was three years ago. >> richard, always a pleasure, good to have you with us tonight. the governor of virginia gets a little tongue tied trying to defend his position on mandatory ultrasounds. next, virginia state delegate charniele herring will join me. thousands of hard workingwisewiworking wisconsinites got great news today. stay with us. all your medical conditions
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welcome back to "the ed show." for a guy who was interested in being on the republican ticket in november, governor bob
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mcdonnell of virginia isn't terribly skilled at defending his positions. he had a hard time explaining why he originally supported a measure that would force women considering abortion to under go a highly invasive trans vaginal ultrasound. >> were you wrong initially when you said this invasive procedure should be part of the bill? >> i never said that. david i think you're wrong on the facts. we support the concept of an ultrasound for the committee process i realized there were some other things in the bill that needed to be amended. >> mcdonnell only with drew his support of the trans vaginal ultrasound after public outcry. then he got behind a less invasive yet still mandatory and medically unnecessary ultrasound measure. he signed the bill in law last week yet the governor didn't seem too eager to talk about the new law. >> there constant focus on social issues is largely coming from the democrats. here what is i'm worried about. >> hold on, i'm asking about this issue. you ran in part talking about
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the president's health care. >> ran against it. >> precisely. >> this was the state of the virginia mandating women have an additional procedure, a mandated health procedure, i thought that is what conservatives opposed? >> david, this was about stating what informed consent is and saying women have a right to know certain things before a procedure. every invasive procedure has an informed consent requirement. >> let's turn to delegate charniele herring. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> i need you to respond to the governor who said the social issues are coming from the democrats. why can't he defend his position on this law? >> he can't defend it because it's indefensible. i find it amazing that he sort of is shocked this issue dominated the general assembly session that just concluded. this is an extreme piece of
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legislation that he says that he supported all along. either he doesn't know the facts or he does support something that is so extreme that it enraged thousands of virginians, he's still out of touch with virginia not to even recognize he's mandating a procedure but the same time opposing obama's affordable health care act. >> it's almost as if he knows the damage has been done and doesn't want to fess up to it. do you think that is where he is right now? >> absolutely that is where it is, and i find it also interesting the clip you played he said he got involved during the committee process. i sit on that committee where the bill came through, let me tell you, until that bill hit the floor of the general assembly, and until virginia became under national ridicule did he all of a sudden stepped in he realized it was damaging to his reputation because he said he would support the bill. >> hasn't he been radical in this position in his past political actions? >> absolutely, to mandate a
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procedure and to say that i think women have the right to know, it presumes that women are not talking to their doctors, and that doctors are not providing information. so i do think it's radical he would walk in a doctor's office and tell people what type of procedure should happen appeared his alleged affix to the bill. 90% of those seeking to terminate pregnancy won't get anything from an abdominal ultrasound which is what he mandated. >> here is hillary clinton on women's rights. >> why extremists always focus on women remains a mystery to me. but they all seem to. it doesn't matter what country they are in or what religion they claim, they all want to control women, they want to control how we dress, control how we act and even control the decisions we make about our own health and our own bodies. >> is that where we are in the world right now, in america? >> it certainly appears that
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way. it appears that way from the what happened in the virginia legislature and legislators across the country seems to be an attack on women. reproductive health rights, rush limbaugh calling a young woman a name i don't care to repeat. unacceptable, women are becoming under attack and interesting i think bob mcdonnell had the best friend in the democratic party, when we dominated the senate these extreme bills were stopped. now we have republican control of the legislature, as well as the executive branch and this is what virginians are getting. attacks on women. >> latest polling people believe the democrats care more about women's issues and i would assume this is proof that your message is resonating with voters. >> yes. >> really apre presppreciate yo thank you for join us on this issue. >> thank you for having me. >> rush limbaugh's advertise rfrps are running for the hills and other rightie talkers could be next.
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siemens. answers. welcome back to "the ed show." the number of advertisers who dropped rush limbaugh is 141 and counting. if permanent represent as real change in talk radio in america. we may be witnessing something unparalleled in talk radio. it will have far-reaching
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consequences all the way to the gop question mark. it is not just limbaugh getting a lesson in hate speech. the syndicator has calculated and circulated a list of 98 advertisers who want to avoid offensive or controversial content. limbaugh, glenn beck sean hannity, advertisers won't touch them. the list is getting longer. this is happening in two weeks time. since limbaugh's slur of sandra fluke. a wake up call to every radio talker in america about what is ahead in the landscape and what is acceptable. racism and sexism is not acceptable. all the advertisers leaving rush limbaugh are making a big statement. i'm joined by eric boehlert, senior fellow of media manners, and holland cook, consultant for 30 years. holland, is this a sea change,
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is this temporary or is it permanent? what is on the horizon? >> every shock jock goes a word too far at some point it seemed until now rush limbaugh had nine lives. radio stations are nervous. i swapped e-mails with a guy who runs a group of radio stays and has rush limbaugh on some of them and he says he's considering switching to that new mike huckabee show which debuts on april 2. that show is syndicated by cumulus media, imagine rush losing wabc new york, wls in chicago, and major stations in detroit, dallas, washington. that would be a death blow to his show on the scope we know it now. he'll probably still always be on the radio but won't be as big a deal. >> eric boehlert, what about
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advertisers leading, will they drift back? >> they made it clear they want nothing to do with it. the same advertisers that abandoned glenn beck are abandoning rush limbaugh and they are doing it faster. glenn beck hung around after calling the president a racist for 18 months. by the end he had no national advertisers. limbaugh lost advertisers faster than beck. your point about the rest of the right wing radio, as media matters points out, this is the height of irresponsibility on fox, on talk radio. they are now paying the consequences and it is -- the best part is, the punishment is being handed out by the free market place. >> holland, ownership has its privileges but if you can't sell it there is no sense in carrying it. is this big trouble for talk radio? >> those 98 sponsors were the national ones, this ripples down to the local level, drawing very
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uncomfortable scrutiny to the stations at the local level. >> so where does this, i'll ask you, where does this leave the gop, you know the connection between the right wing talkers and the gop, will this drive women away from the gop? >> radio is the least of it. look at the pickle that limbaugh's gaffe put romney and santorum in. these guys are supposed to be ward cleaver and the approachable ken doll of politics, they are ducking the cameras for a couple days and when they finally get asked about rush limbaugh, all they can say is it was a poor choice of words like he should have insulted her more politely. the collateral damage goes do the gop the gender gap is wider and deeper as a result of what rush has done. >> here is bill handle talking
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about the kansas abortion law. >> the doctor has to show these dumb ass women -- >> you just stepped in it once again. >> let me tell you something. >> what do you mean i stepped into it? >> whatever you just said is going to be taken so completely out of context. >> out of context? how do you take that out of context, eric boehlert. >> it's rampant all over talk radio. who will carry the shows, we have been monitoring wabc in new york, they aired over the last three, thursday, friday, saturday, 200 unpaid ads during his program. >> public service announcements. >> they are losing money every day they put him on the radio. >> the heart association didn't want their psa. >> charities. >> they can't give it away. >> holland that is a first, to have the american heart association say we don't want to be in the program, we won't take the freebee. >> they can't give it away. this is the canary in the coal
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mine. >> so what does this mean, quickly, holland, to a local operator, do you stay away from this stuff and try to develop something locally to stay in good favor with advertisers? >> i speak to you tonight from baltimore where a couple years ago, a big station that had rush limbaugh on for years, kicked him to the curb and restored, wait for it, are you ready? local programming! what a concept. rush used to enable stations to cut one job from the payroll. but over the years, his rights fees have gotten to the point where it's now more expensive to have rush than find a good local host. and i think there are a lot of meetings going on right now to run those numbers. >> eric boehlert, holland cook, always a pleasure. radical wisconsin governor scott walker can run but he can't hide, it's been a huge day for democrats in the badger state, we'll tell you about it next, stay with us. [ tom ] we invented the turbine business right here in schenectady. without the stuff that we make here, you wouldn't be able to walk in your house
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welcome back to "the ed show." things are about to get interesting in the great state of wisconsin. scott walker, he doesn't like any of it. on saturday, 35,000 people staged a reclaim wisconsin march on the capitol grounds in madison to highlight the one year anniversary of the walker's radical anti-worker bill becoming law. earlier today the wisconsin government accountability board unanimously ruled recall elections can move forward for four of the republican state senators who rammed walker's law through last march. the government accountability
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board is expected to officially rule on the recall election dates for the senators, governor walker and lieutenant governor as early as this week, wednesday. in more bad news for the wisconsin republicans, today dane county judge richard neese permanently stopped, stepped in and stopped the voter id law. ruling comes on the same day the united states department of justice blocked the radical texas voter id law. wisconsin, texas and five other states passed id laws when republicans won the 2010 elections. walker spokesman said it's a shame activists dane county judge continues to stand in the way of common sense. his name might be familiar to ed show viewers, walker's spokesman who was granted immunity in the ongoing john doe investigation surrounding the governor's staff when he worked as a milwaukee county executive. the buzzards are starting to
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circle around the rookie governor on this john doe investigation in a big way. on friday, walker became the first wisconsin governor ever to set up a legal defense fund. walker said the scott walker trust will be used to pay his two criminal defense lawyers to review documents and assist him in cooperating with the secret probe. folks, this is getting good. coming up, the 20-year-old video of a hug didn't do anything to hurt president obama, but sean hannity did his best to lie about professor derrick bell, who passed away last year and couldn't defend himself. bell's wife joins me exclusively to do just that, stay with us. looking good! you lost some weight.
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ever believe the truth about president obama? 8% said yes, 93 said no. coming up sean hannity and friends attacked the character
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of a harvard professor, derrick bell. now his widow is speaking out. janet dewart bell joins us next. wouldn't it be cool if your car could handle the kids... ♪ ...and the nurburgring? or what if you built a car in tennessee that could change the world? yeah, that would be cool. nissan. innovation for today. innovation for tomorrow. innovation for all. ♪ in here, the landscaping business grows with snow. to keep big winter jobs on track, at&t provided a mobile solution that lets everyone from field workers to accounting, initiate, bill, and track work in real time. you can't live under a dome in minnesota, that's why there's guys like me. [ male announcer ] it's a network of possibilities -- helping you do what you do... even better. ♪
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the man who couldn't defend himself because he passed away last year. professor derrick bell's wife is joining us exclusively tonight, but first, here is the moment then barack obama 20 years ago the president of the harvard law reviewed introduced the professor in front of a crowd. >> open up your hearts, and your minds to the words of professor derrick bell. at the time professor bell was protesting harvard's failure to hire minority faculty. sean hannity tried to portray him as radical and racist. derrick bell was the first tenured african american professor at harvard law school. he wanted it. he wanted it to mean something for others. >> i got hired after martin
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luther king was killed, after the riots, and what have you, i applied a couple times before, wasn't hired. i came as a pioneer. i said i will be the first but i don't want to be the last. >> joining me tonight is janet dewart bell, widow of derrick bell the professor that is in question in the eyes of hannity and some of the right wing co-horts. great to have you with us. >> great to be her. >> are you angry about this? i'm angry and sad, i'm sad they could be so dishonest, and it's just part of that radical right wing and the right wing media pattern of distortion and disinformation. i'm smiling because i want to lift up the memory of derrick bell. he left a legacy not only to my family but my husband, if he were here today he would be standing up for sandra fluke. gloria steinem named him an
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honorary woman because he was a feminist. that is the derrick bell i know. a man of koir racourage, a man conviction, he accepted people as they were. >> sarah palin called your deceased husband a racist. i need to you respond to that. >> outrageous, there is an outrage, no other thing to say. but you know, unfortunately, some people will say anything, but what concerns me as much as that is just this drum beat of negativity that you get from hannity. rush limbaugh. and even bill o'reilly to buy into this kind of thing. where are the good people who are going to speak up on the right side? there should be moderate right people or moderate republican who say this is not right. >> what they are saying about your husband is totally false. >> yes, it is. >> here is bill o'reilly,
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speaking of himful. >> would it be fair to say professor bell is anti-white? he doesn't like white people very much? >> did he ever say that, he didn't like white people very much? >> i think the number of students at whose weddings he officiated because they asked him, he's beloved by all students, all races, and all background, i think they would be very surprised to even think that would be the case. >> this videotape was promoted before his death, andrew said he had something on president obama and some of his associates came out and delivered this tape that was allegedly damaging, that your husband was a radical and didn't love the country. >> my husband was a war veteran and a patriot and what he tried to do was make this country stand up to the ideals that he
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believed and believed it with his whole heart. derrick thought the ideals of fair play, social justice, equality, opportunity, those are things that should be shared. everybody should get a shot at the american dream. that what is derrick bell was about. >> are you shocked that you have to come out and speak about your husband's character? how many wives of deceased men have to do something like this? >> well, you know, it is shocking, but part of it is that if it has to be done, i just want to be out there because i know there are other people who are speaking out on his behalf. really on our behalf. what derrick worked for was not just for himself, he worked for all of us and i think that if they can do it, i can do it. >> did you anticipate the ugly things would be said about your husband? >> no, in fact what's interesting is that people try to caricature people of african american leaders or prominent
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african americans, and my husband was such -- he lived such a full and joyous life in the midst of the struggle. he made struggle very attractive. and one of the things he did was we have a seat, season series to carnegie hall, so this past week i was there with our youngest son and we left carnegie hall enjoying that radical bastion of culture, i guess, and we run -- i go out and turn on my cell phone and the world has erupted, and all i could think of have they no sense of decency? this cannot stop. and i thought well maybe it was just a blow-over but it was clear it's not blowing over. >> you're very brave to spoit and appreciate you doing it tonight, i know our audience does as well. this desk is too big, i will hug you after the show. i will shake your hand. >> thank you, ed. i