due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. america's prisons. dangerous, often deadly. there are 2 million people doing time. every day is a battle to survive and to maintain order. >> down on your feet! down! >> located in the deep south, holman correctional facility, where most are serving life sentences. we spent months documenting life on the inside, where the prisoners have nothing but time and nothing to lose. this is "lockup: holman extended stay."

prison is a lonely place for any inmate. relationships that existed on the outside are strained. >> if she wants to call it off, then tell me. you know, let me know something. >> and the ones that blossom within the prison walls are often dangerous. >> i cannot stop these guys from coming after you, and you know that regardless, somebody's going to make a play for you. >> or they can be simply a one-sided obsession leading to nothing but trouble. >> i don't know what you got in your head. you need to let it go. >> you [ bleep ]. >> what's wrong with you? >> the holman correctional facility in atmore, alabama, is home to close to 1,000 inmates, all of whom are categorized by their behavior. the best behaved are housed in holman's coveted honor dorm.

but inmates who behave badly are sent to the administrative segregation unit. >> segregation is an area where we house roughly 200 inmates, and all these inmates are individually celled and they are all here because they broke a rule infraction here in prison. >> human contact in segregation is extremely limited. and interaction with others is at a minimum. this deprivation can take its toll on an inmate both physically and mentally. >> you've got a lot of inmates back there that have been in single cells for a long time. and they, of course, build up hostilities. it's a highly explosive area. >> i did not do what they said i did. >> [ bleep ], [ bleep ], [ bleep ], move [ bleep ]. take me back to my [ bleep ] cell. >> another typical day in ad seg.

that's part of it. >> these officers work here and on a daily basis they deal with these inmates and you build up a relationship with these inmates. and some are good. some are not so good. >> most people said when i started i wouldn't make it. three days until i had a point to prove and i proved it here. then they said i wouldn't make sergeant, and if i did i wouldn't be a successful sergeant. so i like to say i made another point and i'm proving it. everything about it is a challenge. it's not a normal job where you just learn something and you do it. nothing's ever the same. i mean, you make a decision today for one incident, tomorrow it may be the same incident but you have to make a different decision.

>> y'all want to act up, huh? >> working in ad seg, sergeant banks has to deal with many problematic inmates. >> i asked her not to put me in my cell! nobody is gonna [ bleep ] over my head! >> when i deal with jammy bell, i deal with his issues only. bobby gilbert, i don't have any problems with. i just know of the problems that other people have. >> is there any inmate in here to give you problems? >> yes. >> who? >> i would say terrance mosley. >> come look at this. come look at [ bleep ]. come look at it. >> you ain't got nothing to see. >> he says he's infatuated with me, he's obsessed with me, he would do anything for me. >> didn't you get in trouble all weekend? >> he likes to masturbate at the same time all the time.

>> didn't you show yourself this weekend and assault the officer? >> i was trying to talk to the nurse about my medicine. >> they ain't going to let you stand there and expose yourself to the nurse with the door open. you don't expose yourself to the officer, either. officer or nurse, either way, it's wrong. why do you keep doing that? >> [ bleep ]. >> no, they ain't. >> i'll show it to you. how about that? i show it to you. >> a man officer, he don't want to see another man's [ bleep ]. that's like the worst form of disrespect if you ask me. >> you ain't got nothing to see. >> i ain't scared to show it to nobody. i'll show it to anybody. >> now with females, if it's a female that excite me sexually, you know what i'm saying, then i tend to expose myself to them. they like it more. >> when she said i was masturbate i

masturbating, this is where i was at when. >> a lot of people around here ain't against homosexual activity. right? it's cool to a lot of people, but i ain't going to participate in it. they can say what they want to say. i'm going to continue to masturbate. i got a thing for women. you know what i'm saying? okay, i got to go through this all because i like women. i got to go through it. coming up next on "lockup: extended stay," a soured relationship lands this inmate in prison. >> my ex-husband, my deceased husband, he was standing there and i just stabbed him. and later, terrance mosley reaches the breaking point. >> come here, [ bleep ]! tory. we had to create it. introducing the 2013 lexus gs, with leading-edge safety technology, like available blind spot monitor... [ tires screech ] ...night view... and heads-up display.

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>> inmates at the holman correctional facility who are found violating the rules are brought into a disciplinary hearing to determine their punishment. >> this is a disciplinary by correctional officer michael handry for official contraband. circumstances of violation are as follows. you did have in your possession two set of dice, one red and one white and one tube of lipstick. do you wish to plead guilty or not guilty? >> i plead guilty. >> sign that right there. you know you're released from segregation pending the seg review board, right? >> yes, sir. >> put him back in his cell. i'm going to recommend 30 days loss of store and visitation privileges. take the glasses with him.

>> what was the infraction? dice and lipstick? tell me the problem. >> the dice is -- the thing of the dice is they'll go down and get the gambling and then they'll lose something that they don't have to give back. the lipstick comes to the homosexual activity that goes on within the facility. we try to keep that down to as little as we can keep it down to. >> why? >> it causes them to want to fight over the homosexuals. most of the time when you have an incident, it will be something to do with fighting over cards, dice, and then they will fight over a homosexual relationship. >> i have a complex about being called gay or homosexual. okay, i know that i was born a male. i know that. that i do know. but i live as a woman. i see myself as a woman. i like to be respected and addressed as a woman.

my ex-husband, my deceased husband, he was very overprotective. he just insisted on beating on me. beating me, beating me. i manipulated to get away from him, ran up to the kitchen. you know, they had this knife set. the biggest handle that i seen, i grabbed it. and i ran outside, and he was standing there. i just stabbed him. he fell. i stabbed him again. they grabbed me, and i was covered in blood. they called the police. i still had the knife in my hand. they came and retrieved the knife and handcuffed me.

i've been locked up ever since. >> once locked up, marcus was quick to develop prison romances and is currently on her third prison marriage. >> i see him as a man, a straight man. that's how i see it. you know? he's a man. he's my husband. i'm a woman, and i'm his wife. let me wrap my hair down. we exchanged vows, you know. he opened his heart to me. i opened my heart to him. and we vowed to be best friends for life. >> marcus's husband is new to prison relationships and has asked that his identity not be revealed. >> i have a son that's 20 years old that i feel like wouldn't understand the situation right now. that's the only reason that my

identity is hidden. i never thought in a million years i'd be in a relationship like this. in prison it seems like she's the woman, i'm the man, and we're just in a relationship. she's gay. that's it. but on the outside i'm gay, she's gay. i ain't never been -- i still haven't been able to accept that. >> i'm his first. i'm his first prison wife. and i can understand why he's a little shaky about it, you know what i'm saying? >> marcus is in ad seg for getting into a fight with another inmate, and while she's there she's not allowed to communicate with her husband. >> the hardest thing about being in lockup is not being able to sit, talk to him. he's just -- he's my everything. he's my everything.

>> if you could say anything to holly, what would that be? >> i would let her know that i love her, miss her, need her and i'm waiting on her. >> in order to get out of ad seg, marcus must be put on a release list. one of the people who can put her on this list is deputy warden patterson. >> just let me out of this lockup to be with my best friend. >> what is it, marcus? >> i'll take the most restrictive probation that y'all have. >> june the 14th you'll have your 90 days. and at that point we can possibly consider you for population if you don't have an enemy situation. do you have an enemy situation? >> no, sir. you know i don't have an enemy situation. >> let me see your hands. cut them nails. >> yes, sir.

>> i'll be so glad when they let me out of this lockup. i'm going to give him the best life he can imagine. >> you don't want to be interviewed? coming up -- marcus pleads with the warden to be let out of ad seg. >> why should i put you out in pop? >> please, i learned my lesson. >> i ain't convinced right now. , what is? now, in every box of general mills big g cereal, there's more whole grain than any other ingredient. that's why it's listed first. get more whole grain than any other ingredient... just look for the white check.

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have conversations with their friends. alan clark has recently been transferred to holman and hasn't formed any friendships with the inmates there, but he does have a relationship with someone on the outside. >> for 15 years i didn't have anybody to come see me or write me or anything like this. and then came [ bleep ]. she's a darling, you know. she's the love of my life. i miss her so much. you just wouldn't believe. you know, i really miss her. last year in september i became real sick. you know, i had been sick all that day. and when i got to the infirmary, they took my blood pressure and found that it was real, real low. and they rushed me to the

emergency room. but i met a nurse there, and when she walked into the room and we made eye contact i knew, you know, that she was going to be my girl. you know, when we started seeing each other, i said, i've got life without parole. i may not ever get out. she told me, she says, you let me worry about that. finally, you know, one day on the visiting yard up here when she come to see me, i got down on my knee and i asked her, will you marry me? and she says yes. so i said, okay, then, i'll put in a request for marriage. and so i did. as it stands right now, at last count, the chaplain said that i was ninth in line. >> until his wedding day, alan

must rely on letters to communicate with his fiancee. but before he opens his mail, it must undergo a meticulous screening process. >> good morning, holman mail room? if it doesn't have dorm numbers, ais numbers, they can't have it. if it doesn't have a name on the return address, they can't have it. if it doesn't have a return address at all, they can't have it. they're not allowed to have any kind of nude pictures, pictures that are sexually explicit. that's not allowed. when i was going through the mail, i was looking at the envelope and i noticed it was like a big sticker. so, you know, i've never seen one of those. it looks kind of weird. i took a letter opener and peeled it up. and when i did, nude picture. i was like, okay, well, that's rejected. at first i was like, okay, the

nudity pictures. now it really don't bother me. i'm used to it. it's just like a normal routine. i go through it, look at it. okay. reject it. we did have one woman for three weeks in a row, she purposely hid her nude pictures behind cards. she would like open them up on the inside and try to glue them back down. she'd paste them behind other pictures of, like, her children. that's a great one. i love that one. so she kept doing that. i mean, it was every day i was opening them. so i took it to the warden, and he banned her from corresponding for 90 days with him. and she has to write for permission to start writing him again, and he also took away her visitation rights with him. when it goes to that extreme measure, that's when they pretty much learn, hey, i can't do this. i can't get it by. so they leave it alone and don't too much do it anymore.

>> 801, we are in the conference room waiting on your arrival. >> meanwhile, marcus thomas has been writing warden culliver and he's granted her a meeting. she hopes to be released to general population and be reunited with her husband. >> what's going on with your man? >> he's maintaining. i mean, it's hard for him. he wants me out there with him so bad. just as bad as i need to be out there with him. we've been writing each other back and forth but, i mean, we just haven't had enough communication with each other. so i really don't know. i'm not there with him. i don't know. >> marcus, what's up with you? >> they wanted to do an interview of me. >> you don't want to be interviewed? >> next question.

>> what question did they ask you? >> have i seen [ bleep ]. >> that causes you to cry? >> because it hurt you. >> because they asked you if you had seen [ bleep ] that hurts you? >> because it hurts. >> marcus, marcus, marcus. you ain't going to win no academy award with that [ bleep ]. stop that crying. i don't want to hear your crying. i'm just going to go on back and i'm not even going to talk to you about this. they wanted me to talk to you about being released to general pop. i'm not going to listen to you crying about some other man. >> i'm sorry, mr. culliver. i'm sorry. i'm sorry. >> last time you were here, how long did you stay? about three or four months. and both of them times you were in population, you caught yourself being with one individual, yes or no? >> yes, sir.

>> even though you call yourself being with one individual, do you not have people that are coming after you all of the time? yes or no? just yes or no? >> well, yes. >> whether you say they're your problems or not, i cannot stop these guys from coming after you. and you know that regardless, somebody is going to make a play for you. so why should i turn you out to pop? >> please. >> tell me why. >> please, give me a chance. >> i don't want to you beg me, i want you to give me one good reason why i should turn you out to pop. >> because i've made a change. i'm not coming back to lockup, mr. culliver. i promise i'm not coming back. please. just let me show you. >> i'll think about it. i ain't convinced right now, though. and the reason i'm not convinced is in the past, your past tells me if you go to general population you've got about 60 to 90 days of general

population and there will be problems. that's what history tells me. >> but you're wrong this time. i bet you're wrong. >> we'll see. >> it's unfair. it's unfair. coming up, terrance mosley gets written up again, but this time it's not for indecent exposure. >> mind your own business [ bleep ]! >> and alan clark's fiancee may be getting cold feet. >> i had asked her if she was still interested in getting married. would you like to hear how the conversation went? double your data. 4 gigabytes for just $30 a month. with 4 gigabytes, you could send and receive over 400,000 emails. or stream over 1,100 songs.

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congress to end subsidies for oil and gas companies. he said they can either bet on the fossil fuel from the last century or on america's future. mitt romney says the heads of the epa, energy, and interior departments are working like crazy to hike gas prices. he wants them fired. and in los angeles a light rail train crashed into a car, leaving six people injured. the train was on a test run at the time of the accident. those are your headlines. now back to "lockup." due to mature subject matter, viewer direction is advised. i probably got about 100 hours into tattoos. i got a good side and a bad side. i've got jesus on this side with angels and stuff. and then i've got the devil on this side, freddie krueger, medusa, stuff like that. that's tony montana from "scarface." i got two 45s and a shoulder

holster. and i have vini vidi vici. it means, i came, i saw and i conquered in latin. a cadillac sign. i want to go on and get the rest of my chest covered and have the whole shirt. whenever i get out, i'll work on the rest of it. >> after six weeks of shooting at holman correctional facility, our crew went to check up on terrance mosley, an inmate who has repeatedly exposed himself to officers. we weren't prepared for what happened next. >> i told y'all to stay the [ bleep ] away from my cell. >> you wanted to say something? >> i said i wanted [ bleep ]. look here, [ bleep ]! get the [ bleep ] up out of my cell. what's wrong with you? >> all right, let's go. >> the reason he did this is because on a particular day sergeant bates and myself were

walking in the hall and he was masturbating and i had to use force on him with my baton. i hit his arm and i broke his arm. he told me then he was going to get me. on this particular day we were feeding inmate terrance mosley and he threw a tray in my face. so i guess today he got me. >> what started as an obsession with sergeant banks has now escalated into a grudge match between terrance mosley and officer montgomery. >> i don't know what to do with that terrance mosley. he's been a problem with all the shifts. he's got into it with two other officers the other night on third shift, same way he did with you today. i know you had a problem with him before. i don't know what the solution is for that individual. if we can find any way to get him to start complying with the rules and quit being such a troublemaker. disciplinary action doesn't seem to be having any effect on him. that's the only tool we've really got. we're past the days when we can just open the doors and go in

there and whip him. we can't do that stuff anymore. we have to find other ways to try and get him to compliance. >> like you said, keep writing him up. >> write him up and hope eventually he will come around and do differently. i really don't see no hope for him right now. >> while officers hope to change terrance mosley's behavior for the best, another inmate's future may have taken a turn for the worse. >> alan clark's in lockup. he's an inmate that we're going to go see. and he didn't know whether his fiancee was going to marry him or not. he was under the impression they were okay, but apparently she hadn't returned any letters when he had written her. so apparently there was something wrong, and he had me call her to find out if they still wanted to get married. >> alan, have you got a second? you know what this is about? have you had an opportunity to talk to [ bleep ]? >> no, i haven't. i haven't even heard from her. >> okay.

remember you told me to give her a call concerning you guys getting married and all this type of stuff. i had called her and when talking to her she sounded pretty upset. and i had asked her if she was still interested in getting married. and she said, "married?" and i said, yeah, alan's been interested in getting married for a while as i understand it. and i want to see if you guys are going to get married. and she said in emphatic terms, absolutely not. so i don't know how all that sits. apparently she's upset. did you know that she didn't want to get married, or -- >> yes. she's the one that asked me. you know what i'm saying? she told me to go ahead and put in the application for the marriage, and that's the reason why i come to you and asked you about going about getting married. >> what do you think changed her mind? >> i have no idea. >> she's noticeably upset. yeah.

yeah. probably need to straighten that up, whatever miscommunication might be taking place. >> yeah, definitely. all right. >> okay. see you later. >> apparently, she's mad at me for some reason. i don't know. i don't know why she's mad at me. this is news to me. you know, she's the one that asked me to get the ball rolling on getting the marriage going, you know? and, you know, i don't know what's happening. coming up, terrance mosley's problems forces the warden to take matters into his own hands. >> we came to an agreement if you keep your nose clean then i cut you loose. but you couldn't do that.

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for marcus thomas another meal in administrative segregation is another meal without her husband. >> it's all day, every day. as far as my release is concerned, i mean, it seems like something is changing. i can't say. i really don't know. it's as stressful for him as it

is for me. sometimes i just wish that it could be me and the one that i love away, just me and him, away, away from all this nonsense. you know? i'm just praying that he remains strong until i get there. >> while marcus thomas struggles with life in ad seg, her husband is struggling with whether this will succeed as a long-term relationship. >> i'm having a lot of mixed feelings. five, six months from now, who knows, we may be in different prisons. the marriage may all be down the drain. she been who she is. she'll always have to have a man's support. you know what i'm saying? you know, that mess with me mentally, just to know that if we separate she'll have to be with another man. we've been in a relationship two years and a couple of months. but i really can't say, you know, like i said.

at any time we can be going our separate ways. >> alan clark is being moved to another cell in ad seg. it's been nearly two weeks since the chaplain told him that his fiancee seems to have moved on. >> any communication from her? >> not as of yet. i wrote her two letters. i asked her in the letter, you know, if she would write me and let me know what is really going on, you know? if she wants to call it off, then, you know, that's fine, you know. but tell me, you know. don't -- you know, let me know something. i don't really know what's going on. >> maintaining relationships can be difficult, but just getting into them can prove to be

dangerous. inmate marion dent has been sent to the hospital for hitting on the wrong man. >> i had it in my mind i wasn't going back to the street no more, so i might as well get me a friend. then i started messing with homosexuals and things because they were taking the place of a female. >> marion's attempts at making contacts with prospective partners hasn't always gone according to plan. >> i heard that he was offering the homosexual activity, so i wanted to talk to him about that, you know what i'm saying? the man took one blow and knocked me out. and then i -- in an incident down there, in one cell i got stabbed up down there. oh, yeah. another inmate hit me in the head with a lock.

when the fellow hit me in the head with the lock and i got stabbed in one cell, the good lord woke me up and told me, said hey, don't you think that's enough? if you give the lord just one minute, if you don't give him one second of your time, you don't know what you might be missing. give the lord some time. so i started going to church and started getting into christian studying, or bible studying, stuff like that. i kind of started liking it. ♪ >> with marion becoming more and more involved in the church, he decided it was time to make a real commitment to the lord and get baptized. ♪ >> marion, if you would, just stand up here and stand in here and watch your step. turn around, and then you're going to step with your feet

down there and then sit. >> okay. ♪ to be baptized >> all right. now, brother, based on your confession that jesus christ is lord and that you believe in your heart that god raised jesus from the dead, i'm going to baptize you right now in the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit. amen. ♪ [ applause ] >> i'm a christian, and i live for the lord. i gave my life to the lord. i gave my life to the lord. i want to walk that right path. ♪ >> while marion dent has found

the right path for him, others have problems finding direction. warden culliver has scheduled a meeting with terrance mosley to confront him on his most recent incident. >> get the [ bleep ] up out of my cell. what's wrong with you? >> come on. what's your problem? >> i ain't got no problem. >> i got to get your attention one way or the other. i can't do nothing about the thought process. i can't let you out of lockup. how am i going to let you out of lockup? >> you got me locked up for nothing. that's the problem. >> no, no, no, no, no. >> i proved that -- >> no, you haven't proved that to me. if you had been locked up and wanted to come back to pop, you would have came down, did your time, let all the steam out, and you'd be back in pop. you've seen that happen before. that's how we came to the agreement, if you can keep your nose clean, then i cut you loose. but you couldn't do that. >> i slipped.

>> okay. there's a consequence for slipping. >> i know there's a consequence for slipping. >> okay. >> i know what it is. >> okay. >> i'm taking responsibility for what i did. >> i'm taking responsibility for what you did, too. this is what you have to do, though, terrance. before we can talk about working the deal we had before you slipped, you've got to do these 14 days. you still know you're going to get disciplinary and all of that other stuff. >> i know that. i ain't trying to manipulate the system. i'm just being straight up. if i do these 14 days -- this is the only thing i'm asking for right now. if i do 14 days, can i get a five-minute phone call to my mother, man? just five minutes. >> if i can talk to her first. >> you can call her and talk to her. and then i'll talk to her. >> deal? >> all right. >> all right. anything else? >> yeah. i'd like to apologize to her, all right? >> okay. do it. >> i apologize for my behavior yesterday.

>> i'm sorry i brought things up. >> all right. you have to wait and see. sometimes it works. sometimes it don't. coming up, desperate to get out of ad seg, marcus thomas becomes bold. >> why are you so hard on me because i'm a homosexual? the only way -- the only way you're going to know who's telling the truth, me or you, is you're going to have to let me out and let me show you. ♪

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i got good news. >> what's going on? >> they recommended my release this morning. the warden recommended my release. there's more room in this elevator than there is in my cell. >> after nearly 17 months of waiting in ad seg, marcus thomas is meeting with captain craft to discuss her release to general population. >> i can feel myself getting closer to my husband. >> marcus is optimistic that her name is finally on the release list this time. >> the other night in the shower, you were asking if you were on the list to get out of seg. is that what you're talking about? >> yes, sir. >> no, it's not on there. that's what we're going to talk about now, why i don't have you on that list. when you first got here, we turned you out to population, and they met you down there like a herd of horses waiting like you.

there was a lot of confusion between two or three different guys, and then all of a sudden guys wanted to try to go to fighting over marcus. i honestly believe there will be a problem. >> there aren't going to be problems. >> the last two times you were down there, there was problems. >> why are you so hard on me because i'm a homosexual. i've been involved in minor -- >> it wasn't minor. >> no one never got hurt. no one never got hurt. no one never got hurt. i really need to get back to population, i really do. i promise you, i'm not coming back to this jail. i've got it together. i've got it all together. >> you can tell me that you've got it all together, but you can tell me what [ bleep ] is going to do. >> yes, i can. i know him more than he know himself. he ain't going to get into anything. the only way you're going to

know who is telling the truth, me or you, is you have to let me out and let me show you. >> that's true. >> then let me show you. >> i don't know if i want to take that chance. >> let me show you. >> there's a lot of new guys in that hall and when you hit that hallway down there, one will say, i got to have him. i'm going to have him. i don't want somebody down there with knives fighting. >> that's not going to happen. it's never been that serious. >> you can't promise me that. there's no way you can promise me that. >> yes, i can. >> i tell you what. i'll take all this you said into consideration. if i find out that you have caused problems down there or ple [ bleep ] somebody about you, i will lock you back up. >> i will be on very strict probation. >> i will talk to the warden. >> i will accept that. i will accept that very strict probation. >> all right. let me think about it then and i'll get with warden culliver to see if he'll agree with that. >> i appreciate that. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> i feel a lot better. i feel a lot relieved. he's going to take it into consideration. he didn't just say no.

if he had said no, i probably would have broken down and said, take me back. i don't want to talk to you no more. i'm ready to get to my husband. well, back to my hot little cell. you leave my house alone. >> while marcus thomas may find that her tenacity could reward her, terrance mosley is about to be rewarded for his good behavior over the past two weeks. >> today i'm going to call your mom. that was part of the thing. when was the last time you talked to your mom? >> back in december. december last year. >> so, really, i'm doing you a favor, huh? on one hand. >> the warden has been keeping terrance's mother aware of his behavioral problems. he hopes she'll talk sense into him and trigger a permanent

change. >> may i speak to ms. mosley? >> hello. how you doing? i'm trying to. i'm trying for real. you know, i'm trying to, right? i just got that problem. i got that problem. it's a problem. she won't talk to me. >> yes, ma'am. we appreciate it. we've got a contract. i got a contract with him that if he can go until november 15th without getting a disciplinary, then we're going to try him in general population again. that's something he just has to work on. and i don't know. we may make a couple of months. if he continues to do well, he can call you again in a couple of months. yes, ma'am. maybe we need to get him a bible and just let him read the bible.

yes, ma'am. thank you, ms. mosley. all right. you all right? >> i need a transfer. >> you need a transfer? you want a transfer in november to go to population? >> i ain't going to make it. >> you ain't going to make it in six months? you know you ain't going to make it. >> i got a [ bleep ] temper, man. you know me. >> i think he's touched right now. i think five hours from now or this time tomorrow, i think he'll refer back to his mother. i think it kind of got him because of the shakiness in his voice, and i think he realizes she's not truly well. i don't have a problem with him being transferred out. that's not going to happen. he's going to another facility. he's actually closer to his mom here than he would at any other max facility we have. i don't know.

he's got to do it mentally. that's where it's happening. >> after meeting with warden culliver, captain kraft will deliver the final decision to marcus as to whether she gets out of ad seg. >> i will go down and talk to marcus and explain to him we're willing to try this, just not right now. how you doing, marc? >> all right. >> good. i talked to warden culliver about what we had spoke about, about this contract and you coming out in population. he's agreed to let me let you out if you agree to sign this contract. one catch he is not willing to turn you out right now. he will wait and turn you out in late summer or early fall. he's willing to do it but it's going to be then. okay? is that agreeable?

>> yes, sir. >> all right. maintain yourself. all right. talk to you later. >> i guess i'm looking at august or september. that seems like forever. there's nothing that [ bleep ], nothing at all. nothing. nothing