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several big to hers developing right now on news station. marching for trayvon martin in just a few hours. thousands pledge to join together for one of the largest protests yet bringing attention to the death of the unarmed teenager killed in florida. new questions about the evidence in this case and including a 911 call martin's family attorney is now questioning. french police have surrounded the only suspect in the murder of four people at a jewish school in toulouse, france, the standoff has gone on for hours, nearly 16 hours with the suspect shooting at police and barricading himself inside a home. >> i think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign and everything changes. it is almost like a etch a sketch. >> it is upstaging mitt romney's win in illinois, why one of romney's top advisers thought it would be okay to compare the
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candidate's policy changes to etch and sketch. say hello to broadway tebow, and another breaking story in the nfl, huge low to the saints, sean peyton suspended for a year due to the team's bounty program where players were intending to hurt other players. >> i am in the news station following developing news. i am tamron hall. the news station is following developing news in the case involving 17-year-old trayvon martin. the demand for justice is growing by the thousands you might say. just a few hours ago they rallied in orlando demanding george zimmerman's concealed weapons permit be revoked and thousands including trayvon's parents are expected to attend a massive rally in new york city. it is being called the million hoody march, named for the sweatshirt trayvon was wearing the day he was shot and killed.
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the facebook page shows almost 3,500 people saying they will attend the march tonight. the naacp is calling for bill lee to resign saying he allowed officers to mishandle marth irn's case. they held a forum for people to share their concerns about the department. >> a man in his 50s walked up to me and said what they're talking about inside the church has been going on longer than i have been on this effort. any compelling story will find its way to the u.s. department of justice. >> trayvon martin was shot february 26, 24 days later there is still no arrest. his mother says she cannot eat or sleep until zimmerman is behind bars. al sharpton is organizing a bill rally tomorrow night at the first shiloh baptist church in sanford. he is with us now. thank you for your time. what is the goal tomorrow? >> i think we still must press for the arrest of this shooter.
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this man has not been arrest zd and almost a month now, coming up on a month. >> a man that the police have 911 tapes where he says he was pursuing trayvon, and this man claims self defense when he was pursuing the victim. here is a man not even registered as a real watch person as you would call. >> a self appointed watch man. >> self appointed, killed someone, record of assaulting police and still not arrested. the three things we will focus on, the family and i will be there, and others from around the country. immediate arrest and a thourogh investigation of the police department. who decided that self defense was appropriate? who decided the man should not be arrested? who decided to drug test the body of the victim and three days without contacting the family. >> these are the questions you're laying out, the same
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questions that have been asked since you started covering the story, since we did and others, for the past few weeks now. is there a real progress being made here? i have to tell you, a lot of people thought by wednesday, by early this week, there would at least be an arrest. arrests don't always result in rj whiches. charges don't always result in convictions, at least at the minimum an arrest. >> the fact the justice department has come in and announced an investigation and the state prosecutor is more than we had last week, but is that progress? no. the man has not been arrested. the signal sent is this young man's life and therefore all lives are worthless, that you can get away with it which is why we rally. >> lester holt did an interview with the family's attorney. there is a 911 call in which some people believe that you can hear zimmerman utter a racial slur when referring to trayvon.
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the attorneys are questioning whether they received an edited version of the i am tape. the attorney says he doesn't know what was said exactly. ebb he believes he heard a slur. they're trying to figure out, if they, meaning the police department, edited racial ex me actives from the tape to help mr. zimmerman and ex spouse his arguments, a direct quote from the interview with benjamin crump. this is another level you have been talking about, the allegation or at least the perception that there was a coverup here. >> there is clearly a lot of questions, and i would say if you look at whether the tape is edited, and you have to remember we got in the case early, and he with first demanded and it took a long time to get the tapes released which adds to the suspicion that maybe somebody was doing something with the 25i7s because it took weeks to agree to release the tape. >> we know there were big meetings behind closed doors with officials about the tapes themselves. >> exactly. if you had the tapes and you hear what you hear, why didn't
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you arrest him then even if you say that night we didn't know what he said to the 911 caller. after awhile, no arrest. >> let me play what trayvon's father said this morning to matt lauer reacting to the belief of what he says he heard on that tape. let me play it. >> i think he said words that were not comforting to my ear like these people and who are these people. >> he was suspicious because he was young, black with a hoody. >> people said they enhanced the tape and you have some who believe that they heard the racial slur. the bottom line, though, regarding evidence if the tape was edited, regardless of what words were there, that would be substantial. that is something that we saw in mississippi, other parts of this country, when police and authorities help in covering up if these allegations are true. >> i think that's what is so chilling here, not only about
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the allegations of the tape but the whole case says we made a lot of progress in this country, but what does it say if we can put an african-american man in the white house and we can't walk an african-american child to the store to get skittles? i think that is what is really hit a lot of americans saying, wait a minute, we can't stand for this. >> we know you will be in florida. we hope you can join us from there live as you will be with the family once again, and also tonight on politics nation reverend al will be joined by trayvon's parents tonight at 6 p.m. eastern time here on msnbc. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> bring in radio talk show house and contributor michael mcconnish. i know you labored over the facts. i am curious to say what people are saying. you talk to a cross-section of folks and the reason i ask that, so many see this as a black issue. this is about a young boy, a child, someone's child, and they want answers, so color aside, if this person was unarmed and did
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not provoke this and all of the things his family says are true, this is about a 17-year-old no matter his color, no matter his gender. >> tamron, i have been doing this for a while. i have talked about a lot of cases with racial implications over the year, and i am a accustomed to when the callers break down along racial lines. this is not that case. this case is remarkable for the uniform at this of callers to my program thus far who are black, who are white, who are young, who are old, who are from all different quadrants of the country, and are outraged thus far as to what they know and the lack of an arrest. i really haven't seen anything like it and the piece of audio that you made reference to a moment ago with reverend al, i had my technical producer boost the audio. he didn't doctor the tape, but elevate the audio so we could isolate the words and posted it on my website. i have been asking people do you hear it and thus far 88% are
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saying absolutely, i hear what he is muttering under his breath. >> you obviously know being an attorney that is something that perhaps could or could not be used in court if this man is arrested or if eventually he is charged. we have seen dna evidence, science challenged, let alone what the human ear hears or what a great defense attorney can convince you you don't hear. i think you know this, michael, as an attorney far better than i. what a lot of attorneys are listening in on is zimmerman saying he is still getting out of that vehicle after the 911 operator said do not, and at the heart of that is who is pursuing? who is the agressor? how did that turn into a self defense? regardless of what that word may or may not have been and certainly everybody has an opinion. we hear the operator saying do not pursue. >> the legal issue as you well know is whether zimmerman was in imminent danger and there are justified to use lethal force in
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this case because of the stand your ground law. i maintain you can parse the audio. you can go to that 911 call alone and break it down by its component parts and make a justified argument for his arrest. there are so many red flags in that audio. there is such a lack of objective data that he is sharing with the reporter. why really is he giving pursuit? what exactly was tray mart on doing other than looking back at this guy following him and as you point out gets out of the vehicle after he is clearly instructed he should not do so. to me the prosecutor only needs that tape in order to proceed with this case. >> let me ask you what role the police would play in convincing the prosecution, for example, as you well know and i talked about it publicly, my own sister was murdered and i remember the police saying to our family, listen, it is a difficult case to bring to the prosecutor. we know that the da wants to be
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able to take this to the grand jury and pursue this. if there is not enough evidence, it makes it difficult for them and thus these kinds of cases sometimes are not taken on and that's why we hear the phrase a person of interest or the case is still open. you know the game. you have been there. how much of an influence would the sanford police department be in getting the prosecutor or the d.a. to look at this as a case that at least warrants going to the grand jury before they announced it this week? >> i think that they would have had a lot of influence but for all of the attention that has now been placed on this case at a local, state and national level, and i have great faith in the rule of law and the justice system through the grand jury process. this is tailor made for a grand jury in my view. i think it is a good use that far device, and i am confident frankly that this guy is going to be charged once the grand jury does this investigation. tamron, one other observation. what makes this case difficult and it makes a lot of the stand your ground cases difficult, is
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that tray martin isn't alive to tell us whaptd and the way the law is written, it is to the benefit of he or she who used the deadly force. these 21 states including my own that have this on the books should have listened to law enforcement. it was law enforcement that stood up to the n.r.a. and said we don't need this. >> michael, thank you very much. i greatly appreciate it. i love to hear what people tell on you the radio because you have a cross-section of folks that want their voices heard. later on, i will talk with florida state representative dennis baxley. he is actually one of the co-sponsors of that stand your ground law we talked so much about. he says now that the law would not have authorized zimmerman to pursue and confront trayvon martin, so what did he intend when he co-sponsored this law out of florida? we'll find out. right now we're following breaking news out of france, a tense standoff under way between police and an islamic extremist who reportedly confessed to the
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killings in toulouse. police have the 24-year-old suspect cornered now for the last 16 hours this has been going on. he is held up and we're told heavily armed inside an apartment building. police have tried to enter several times but were forced to retreat after being met with gunn fire. two officers have already been injured. jim joins us from toulouse with the latest. jim, what is the latest there? i see the activity behind you. >> reporter: since the early morning raid on the house about 300 yards behind me where this gunman was actually living. he is french. he is from toulouse although he has of course traveled to the tribal territories we now know between afghanistan and pakistan under al qaeda's help and guise and direction, so he is a home grown, hard core islamic militant. in the 16 hours we have learned
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a lot about this individual. we know he is 24 years old. we have his name of muhammed merah, and he has admitted as you said, confessed in great detail to the i tinary of killing that he had, the three french soldiers that he killed last week because he said he was taking revenge or protesting the western countries occupation of afghanistan and of course the three jewish children and one jewish adult at the school, the jewish school on monday, and he said that was in revenge for killing of children. it has been a real kind of chess game for the past number of hours with the police saying no more negotiations, we're going to go in if you don't come out. he is resistant still. the police clearly don't want a blood bath. they want to take him alive. they're under instruction from way up in paris to take him alive, so we're going now into
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the 17th hour. back to you. >> can you tell us how they were able to track the suspect down? >> right. well, the police say they suspected him for a long time. he has been on the radar screen because of his frequent trips to pac stack. they have been watching him closely since he appeared in a motor bike shop and asked about shutting off and neutralizing his gps on his scooter. we know the scooter was very important. he used it to shoot and then scrape the crime scenes and he also asked about changing the color of the motor bike from black to white and apparently a very astute bike shop worker thought it was suspicious and knew that the killer moved about on a scooter and called the police. that's how the police eventually got to this house. >> jim live in toulouse. we'll continue to follow the standoff. just a few hours ago you may
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have heard jeb bush endorsed mitt romney, but the question now is does it matter? is it really something that will be a game changer? our news station political panel weighs in. plus, rick santorum pounces on romney after one of mitt romney's top advisers says the candidate's positions on certain policies can be erased and redrawn like an etch asketch. >> that should be comforting to all of you who are voting in this primary that whoever are you going to vote for is going to be a completely new candidate. >> we're following two big breaking stories. the nfl sus peyton over the bounty program and the talker of the day perhaps outside of the saints, it is official, tim tebow is going to be a new york jet. join our conversation on my twitter page at tamron hall.
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former florida governor jed bush has now finally given his love to mitt romney. he has endorsed romney. bush, who was still being mentioned as a possible alternative candidate made the announcement in a statement and a tweet today, but the other big development on the campaign trail, a top advisor to romney insisting romney can change his positions after the primaries which drew an immediate response from rick santorum. >> is there a concern that the pressure from santorum and gingrich might force the governor to tag so far to the right it would hurt him with moderate voters in the general
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election? >> i think he hit a reset button for the fall campaign and everything changes. it is almost like etch sketch, you can shake it up and we start all over again. >> governor romney's aids today on the television said that governor romney's after he wins the primary will be like an etch-a-sketch. that should be comforting to all of you voting in this primary that whoever you are going to vote for is going to be a completely new candidate. >> let's bring in our news nation political panel, democratic strategist jimmy williams, and avery stoddard. how does one explain the etch-a hiech sketch, i did not have one and i know what it is and how it is played. you draw on it. you erase it and you can go onto something else. how does the romney campaign explain it is over shadowing what happened in illinois? >> that's a bit of a tough one because the etch-a-sketch literally erases everything you
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wrote and you get a blank screen. they went too far with those comments and it is unfortunate for the romney camp because they have a pattern where every time after he has a big win something terrible comes out of his mouth or the mouth of one of his advisers the next day and it does over shadow the victory. it is clear that mitt romney is going to have to run back to the middle very quickly in the general election campaign to win back the women who were so offended by the debate over birth control pills and free prenatural testing and everything else taken place during the republican primary campaign, and that's no secret, but to talk about it now is a mistake. mitt romney, although he is likely the nominee, really doesn't want as he pivots to a general election message to offend any of those remaining conservatives who resisted him who he still needs to come on board. >> i get it. that's how the game is played. you run to the middle or move close to the middle here on certain things, but the reality is mitt romney is saying he
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wants to get rid of planned parent hood. you say it is no secret but it seems like a secret to the candidate in how he is handling himself in an attempt to woo the more conservative members of his party in hopes of finishing off rick santorum. >> he has said a lot of things on immigration particularly which has very much upset former governor jed bush who is endorsing him today. he has said some things that the party is concerned will damage him in the general election and i am sure he has great plans to try to back track on those comments, tom ron. i am not privy to how he will do so, but for now it is true that he has had to go far out on the right to assuage conservative that is don't trust him and still resist him and the path back will be thorny for him. >> that's the point, so many within the party that believe mitt romney is phoney and you have a top advisor saying to a.b.'s point, what may have been
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said behind the scenes, said on national tv that the guys policies are etch-a-sketch. how does he explain that? >> you don't. to illustrate the point yesterday the win in illinois and, by the way, he won, but he won with the lowest winning margin in the 100 here history of the illinois primary. that's not a good sign for a moderate state like illinois. listen, if you don't believe me on these things, you can't erase these things. ask john kerry. everything that john kerry ever did in his entire senate career was brought back. remember the flip-flops at the republican convention. if you think the democrats and the obama campaign will let romney go back to the middle and not remind him of everything that he has done for the last six years when he has been running for president, then you don't know politics, and believe me, the obama campaign will definitely do that stuff. >> if you think this may not affect the enthusiasm level of those conservatives that he will need, a.b., who might say this
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guy is a phoney, i don't have to support him if he gets the nomination and i can be bitter to the very end including what newt gingrich, what did he call him, the liberal massachusetts that he referred to him as, and i want to talk about the zinger from dick durbin. he pointed out what jimmie made the point, lower voter turnout in illinois, the lowest in chicago for a presidential primary for at least 70 years. that is a mighty long time as we say in the south. i have to ask you, does jed bush at all help the situation, this endorsement maybe? >> well, you know, what it does is tells other people in the establishment that the good housekeeping seal of approval has finally come in, jed bush resisted doing this. there were rumors he might endorse rochl any before florida and he hung back and he recently made very critical comments after the last republican debate about how republicans, he said i used to consider myself a conservative. now i am watching these people
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in our party play on the fears and emotions of people and not try to broaden their perspectives. he comes to this reluctantly but they're glad he came out even just in a statement if he didn't want to be at a press conference with his arms around mitt romney and probably does release other people to come out and endorse mitt romney, even those that aren't enthusiastic within the party are desperate to see this end and want a one-on-one contest with president obama to start toos possible. >> are you buying that, jimmy? you have rick santorum and newt gingrich saying it and obviously more emphasis on rick santorum since he is showing up in the polls and newt gingrich is not, that it doesn't matter, he doesn't care if it is jeb bush or any other names, he believes they should join around him so is jeb bush a factor at this point? >> he does. jeb bush has always been admired. >> didn't we really know this was the route unless he got into the race? is this really a big surprise? did you think he was going to
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endorse rick santorum? >> no. no one thought he was going to endorse rick santorum. i think a.b. is right. we thought it would happen before florida, and it didn't. the timing of it it is and in the four senate statements that jeb bush put out, he said now that we have over 30 states done, it is time to unite behind a candidate. i am supporting mitt romney for the party nomination, and that was the end of the statement. it was a remarkably step i had statement. a.b. is also right in that last week he had these problems. last week his mother said what the heck happened to my party, the gop, and i think he is saying, yeah, i am behind romney. now, can we all stop beating him up? i am not sure he can. >> in speaking of mothers, mine just tweeted and said, correction, did you have an etch-a-sketch. >> there you have it. >> apparently i had one and i had so many things i forgot. >> you didn't use it. >> i forgot about it with the things i had. thank you very much. great pleasure. coming up, robert diniro
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new york home. we have the heated details of what people are saying in the gut check. more football, a huge blow for the new orleans saints. the nfl spends head coach sean payton over the bounty program. is the penalty fair or too much? we begin this half hour with new efforts to strike down or change the controversial law in prosecute florida at the heart of the trayvon martin case. the stand your ground law gives people the right to protect themselves with deadly force instead of backing down first. numbers from the florida department of law enforcement show justifiable homicides tripled after the law went into effect in 2005. now some florida state senators want to review the law, something the governor says he supports. joining me live from gainesville is state representative dennis baxley, one of two sponsors of the stand your ground bill, the miami herald reporting that you said that martin's killer probably should be arrested. let me hear your thoughts in regards to stand your ground and what you know about this case.
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>> thank you very much. first of all, i would just like to express my sympathy to the martin family. i served my own community as a funeral director for over 40 years and i walked with many family and friends through this tragedy, and i don't think there is anything quite as painful as the loss and the heartbreak of the loss of a child. please accept my condolences in that regard to the martin family. my point really as a sponsor of this castle doctrine legislation was always to protect lives, and to empower. what we learned is if we empower people to stop bad things from happening, they will. in fact, that statistic is coupled with another statistic, and that is the fact we have had a dramatic drop in violent crimes since this law has been in effect. i think the biggest problem here is application. there is nothing in the castle
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doctrine statute that provides authority for you to pursue or confront other people. this is a self-defense law. it says if you are in your home or car or somewhere you have a right to be and someone attacks you, we will stand with you. you don't have to worry you would be charged with a crime for defending yourself or family from harm. and i am very pleased to see this is going to a grand jury. i think that is the place to sort this out. quite frankly, i think it is a misapplication to be attacking this castle doctrine statute when it really doesn't apply to pursue and confront other people. >> the state senator who co-sponsored the law with you says the intent was to protect women and children. they're using it to protect someone who ought to be in jail. the state attorney ought to do the job. i know you said you were pleased it is going to a grand jury. is that -- i want you to say it more flatly and i don't want to
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put words in your mouth. do you believe that zimmerman should have been charged? >> i think it is wrong for me to be speculating on the facts when all i know is what i absorb from the media. >> but the language in the law and let me break it down to the 911 call that seems to be at the center for the legal battle here is when you hear george zimmerman being told by the 911 operator not to get out of the vehicle, not to follow the individual, let's isolate those words alone, those instructions alone and apply them to the law that you co-sponsored and you tell me what should be applied here. >> well, clearly the intent of the law is to defend people in their homes and their cars and where they have a right to be from attack. there is nothing in the statute to protect somebody who is pursuing and confronting other people. i think it is wrong for me to
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speculate. i think it is right for me to say i believe that the grand jury will sort this out and i do not believe that this protection applies in these situations. >> if it doesn't apply in this situation and that is the accepted defense that the police accepted from zimmerman that it was a case of self-defense based on the law you co-sponsored, if you say that that is misapplied, i am not asking if he should be convicted. i am not asking if he should serve time. i am asking if you think he should be arrested and charged at the beginning of the process here. >> well, i think from all that we're learning, it is certainly leaning indicative of that, but i always try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and i do believe the biggest problem is not having this fully investigated and vetted and i think the grand jury will arrive at these conclusions, but i would leave it to them to make that decision and i can tell you there is nothing in here to protect someone who is pursuing and confronting other people. >> let me ask you given the
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situation with the trayvon martin case and many other legal experts in your own state who now say we need to review this law solely based on the fact that if it is an issue of self-defense, the only person standing is the person who is alive and they're able to tell the story, not the dead person, so in this case this could happen time and time again in your state where you have an individual who says, listen, i was defending myself, as it is applied to this law, and the notion as i know saying dead men, dead women don't talk. >> there is an issue there that has to be sorted out and vetted and that's why there is always an investigation to determine the facts. i think you have to determine the full set of facts and what happened prior to the actual confrontation and that's what concerns me in this case. when you have pursuit and confrontation, of course you're going to accelerate things. >> you stand by the law as it is written now? you stand by this law? >> i do stand by it, but i think
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there may need to be new legislation that addresses like how crime watches and how things are addressed, but i think a lot of this is how it is being applied. it is not a problem with the statute as much as it is a problem with how it is being applied. >> thank you so much for your time. we greatly appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll be right back. there is still a lot going on today. here are things we thought you should know. robert de niro said he meant no offense when he joked about the weaves of the gop presidential candidates and he was at a presidential fundraiser featuring the first lady and he said he was speaking, quote, with sa tire and it drew a complaint from newt gingrich saying the reference was inexcusable and demanded an apology from president obama and mrs. obama's spokeswoman called it inappropriate and declined to further comment. three african-american politicians will be featured on the new pbs series finding your roots. georgia congressman and civil rights leader john lewis, cory
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housing season. cnbc contributor zachly kair bell joins us. we often hear what on the surface appears to be encouraging housing news anden this you hear it is because people are selling at a lower value or we're waiting for a flood of foreclosures. >> yes. >> the list goes o help us process the numbers. >> this one you can do a little cup half here and cup half empty and if you are cup half empty, it is true more new home sales in the past three months and five years and also true more permits were issued as of information yesterday than in many years which is an indication builders are getting ready to build and an indication that there is some demand. people except in 2007 don't build just when they hope there will be homes sold. it is below what it was five or six years ago. we're not in any way out of the woods. this is one more in the lattice of information that in many ways says, look, our economy may be nowhere near what we hope it to be and 10, 15, 20 million people terrible and another 20 million people hard and in a country of
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300 million people it is a system that is gradually moving forward and doing a whole lot better than a lot of people thought five months ago. >> we know the housing market and the recovery of the housing market is key. maybe people have learned their lesson not to put all of your eggs in the housing basket certainly. >> we don't want that where they are treating a home as an investment. >> savings. >> as opposed to a place to live. a stock is an ainvestment vehicle. a home is a place to live. you can't live in a stock and you can't pie and sell homes as quickly as you can other things. you do want people to be able to sell their home and have enough credit. >> are these short sales or sales that are -- >> this kind of stuff is not any of that. it is pure organic, i bought a new home and home permits is people buying, building new homes. all of the issue of foreclosure remains over hang although there is much more movement from the government project a few weeks ago, the $26 billion to help foreclosures moving and allows
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for job mobility assuming it is higher. >> and hiring new homes being built. >> and there will be people able to occupy them and get the mortgages accordingly. i think all in all this becomes an incredibly difficult argument for the republican side at least in an itting to harp on the pure negative economic news as the sole hitch for the campaign. as this information and news gets better, makes it really difficult to make an argument that things are terrible. >> we see that even with the unemployment rate which got rick santorum in trouble as well. >> yes. >> thank you very much. we'll see you when you get back. thank you. we are following two major developing stories from the world of sports. zachary covered this. the jets confirmed within the last hour that tim tebow is headed to new york city. it comes one day after -- technically new jersey, isn't it -- peyton manning took his spot at the denver broncos and we learned the nfl suspended
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sean payton and others for their involvement in the bounty program. dave is writing for the edge of sports and he joins us live. i don't know which to start off with. i will start off with broadway tim, broadway tebow, whatever you want to call it. i read a couple tweets people are threatening to not have the season tickets with the jets because of this and others are happy to see how it goes. what's your take? >> it is heart to be a saint in the city. yeah, 35-year-old bruce springsteen reference, thank you. the thing about tim tebow coming to the jets is woody johnson, the owner just upon a circus. he bought the 28th ranked quarterback in the nfl who for some reason has a massive fan base that will be pressuring the team to start him every step of the way. the jets are doing this right after they gave a huge extension to the incumbent quarterback mark sanchez and signed drew stanton from the detroit lions. i don't begin to understand the
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thought process except they maybe were looking at rex ryan and saying, you know what, this guy is not quite a bafoonish entertaining clown, we immediate to make this more bafoonish and more clownish and bring in tim tebow and have a full pledged reality program. >> how can you say they brought the circus to town? this is new york city. every day is a sirk us. the king of the new york is donald trump for pete's sake. this is new york. how can he bring the sirk us here? >> exactly, because of who tim tebow is. it would be a circus if you let rick santorum loose in las vegas for a week and kept a camera on him the whole time. donald trump in new york is ho-hum, practically a chameleon but with tim tebow you are talking about somebody that has a set of ideas. let's say that are different from the majority of new yorkers. now, i don't want to shock you, tamron, there are a lot of women in new york who use birth control and i also don't want to shock you, but there are a lot
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of lgbt people that live in new york city who are football fans and they might want to know why the new possibly starting quarterback for the new york jets wants them to move backwards 30 or 40 years. >> i want to get to the saints and i have to follow up. is that fair, though? i get it. he had the ad with his mother and talked about his faith and beliefs, but the reality is isn't it about what he does on the field? >> of course. that's a part of it. >> you can have drug addicts and everything else play in this town and people beat up their spouses and play in this town. >> and they get the media scrutiny yet in denver a typical question from a local media member would look more like a foot massage than a tough question. i am hoping he gets asked certain things. he said he wants a career in politics after football. that makes it fair game. >> fair game. fair that the saints, the head coach sean payton out for a year fined, and the team fined for the bounty program where they were targets players of other
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team? >> i am so upset by this i invented a word shock-raged, shock raged this happening. number two in vegas in terms of who are the super bowl favorites the upcoming season. roger is judge, jury and executioner eliminated their chances. i think new orleans season ticket holders should sue the nfl. >> it is the gut check. thank you very much. is it more than about football? is it about for sometimes doing the right thing because other players could have been seriously injured? it is our gut check coming up. dave, thank you. see you soon. >> thank you. been here since th. my dad and grandfather spent their whole careers here. [ charlie ] we're the heartbeat of this place, the people on the line. we take pride in what we do. when that refrigerator ships out the door, it's us that work out here. [ michael ] we're on the forefront of revitalizing manufacturing. we're proving that it can be done here, and it can be done well. [ ilona ] i came to ge after the plant i was working at closed after 33 years. ge's giving me the chance to start back over.
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good afternoon. i am in for martin bashir. it is return of mr. inevitable. >> we thank the people of illinois for this extraordinary victory. thank you so much. >> illinois under his belt, a freshly stocked war chest, and now the backing of jeb bush. is this primary dragging mitt too far to the right. >> i think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign and everything changes. it is almost like an etch-a-sketch. you can shake it up and we start all over again. >> that's red meat for rick santorum. >> this is someone who doesn't have a core. he has been on both sides of almost every single issue in the past ten years. >> so is it back to the drawing board?