reverend al sharpton. last night about 1,000 people pack packed new york city for the million hoodie march. >> i want new york city to know that we're not going to stop until we get justice for trayvon. my son did not deserve to die. there's nothing that we can say that will bring him back, but i'm here today to assure that justice is served. >> our son did not commit any crime. our son is your son. i want you all to stand up for justice and stand up for what's right. >> last night the city commissioners in sanford, florida voted for no police chief.

but shooter george zimmerman has not been arrested or charged with any crime. he says he shot martin in self-defense. joanne reed a joanne, do you think this is a touch stone for something much bigger? as thousands of people have been demanding justice for trayvon martin, put it in the context of what it is, how it is, this whole discussion? >> yeah, chris, i think this case has really become symbolic of a fear that african-american men have carried around with them for a long time. normally this is the fear of being stopped by police. the fear of being profiled. the fear of just being the way you look. just the idea that racial profiling can go beyond the police-civilian dynamics has

been frightening for a lot of people. i have talked to a number of people who have sons about the age of trayvon martin. it's not just don't run from police, now you have to fear the ordinary citizen who's profiling you, it's really frightening. >> let me ask you that as well. keith this has been an eye opening moment for frankly a lot of americans. and give us a little bit of your sense of a little bit of experience of what it means to be a young black man in america. >> it is empowering to be there because there are so many young black men and young people of all different races who were there just expressing their outrage about this travesty of justice here. here is a guy who was murdered on february 26, it's been 25 days since that time and still no arrests. and i think for a lot of people like myself, i feel like our lives are meaningless, that could have been me, that could have been my god sons, both of

whom live in florida who are teenagers who could have been shot by a neighborhood watch captain who wasn't even officially on duty doing that. i just think it is an interesting investigation, that you wonder how many times this happens that it just doesn't get attention. this is not the only time. >> trayvon's parents who we just saw in that opening clip have started an online petition calls for the arrest of the shooter. there were 9,885 signatures on that petition. we mentioned that zimmerman hasn't been charged and he still has a gun. joy ann, what needs to happen here? >> i think these are all the layers of this case that are making it viral, frankly and i think social media has also played a big part in it. i think cases played 120 years ago wouldn't have gone this far this fast because you don't have that police element in it. they seem to be very dug in, the

police here in sanford on the idea that zimmerman was the one being aggressed. to relook at this law that zimmerman is supposedly using, the stand your ground law. this guy had a prior arrest and still had a legal license to carry. why the police are saying under existing law here in florida they were actually in the right and they're insisting on that. so hopefully the grand jury will flesh out, where is trayvon martin's cell phone. why didn't police do what reporters did and follow up with the last person to speak with him on the phone. there are a lot of unanswered questions that hopefully the grand jury will answer. >> it's hard being a parent thinking your child is missing and if there's a cell phone with a home number in it, why it's not called. that's one little simple piece of this whole thing.

>> the police were totally incompetent in this investigation. they didn't look at the cell phone to find out who it was. they didn't do a drug test or an alcohol test on george zimmerman, the police chief goes out in public and slanders and smears trayvon martin, accusing him of beating the crap out of george zimmerman because he had a bloody nose. the idea that the police chief says this investigation was color blind it just doesn't sound realistic, if trayvon martin had been white, and george zimmerman had been black, you bet your butt that there would have been an arrest. i think it's just crazy today that we live in a society that this is recognized as in justice and then still has not been any sort of justice yet, any arrests. >> i want to bring in the president of the naacp.

thank you for taking your time this morning. and i know the naacp has been collecting stories of abuse or when the police have inadequately investigated cases. i wonder what you found out in that forum. >> i have done a lot of hearings in my career, all of them well planned, this one was more of a y'all come, we were at a large meeting in a church, people lined to the rafters. we said y'all come back at noon tomorrow to the church and tell us your stories. and then with cameras there not knowing what people would say, mother after father after brother after uncle saying my son was killed, and they did not investigate his case. one woman talked about two years, her nephew, who was killed holding his baby. and every month they call the

police here in sanford who say we're getting close. there's a sense that there's two real problems in this town. black men, black boys are suspected of being criminal just because they're black. and two it is not investigated seriously. cases are routinely mishandled even when they get to court. and that's what we heard. and that was absolutely horrible. it's been in the news twice since 2010 for people walking free assaulting or killing black men. this is a real problem. >> there was a story on "nightly news" last night in georgia about what it means to be a black man in america. i want to play you a little bit of that story. >> my mom always told me to go with what the cop says, never argue with them. every time i'm out at a public event or a cop sees me, or a security officer tells me, where

are you supposed to be, boy. >> you have to make suggestions to watch the way your hands are moving, watch your posture, to make sure that you don't make an abrupt movement, that may mean that you may have to compromise your pride, but i want you back home alive. i want to bring in congresswoman elida wilson. congresswoman, you have a son, trayvon was in your district. and it also caught my eye when i read that you're the head of a mentoring organization that passes out pamphlets that explain what happens if a child is arrested. given that, was the death of trayvon martin a shock to you? >> it was not a shock to me. i have seen it happen over and over again. and it's a conversation that we must never end, we must talk about it, we must educate or

young boys, we must talk to police officers, we must educate them because there is this natural tension between black boys and the police. it's not a perceived tension, that tension exists. and we have to find ways to calm that tension because it always leads to trouble. so our brochures, in the 5,000 role models of excellent program, we teach our young boys how to avoid a confrontation with the police. and it's always, keep your hands where they can see them, freeze, don't move. never run from the police. and it's 12 different rules and we practice them and they are taught this information by police officers who are mentors in the 5,000 role models of excellent project. >> how is it that we still have organizations that have to pass

out pamphlets to young african-american boys telling them, make sure if you see a police officer they can see your hands? >> we are now on the eve of being 150 years since the end of slavery, and black men and black boys in our society are still suspect, still believed to be criminal, simply because of their color, simply because of their heritage. it's got to end. i mean how is it that we as a country can tolerate the fact that millions of parents in this society, because of the color of the child's skin are forced to sit there and give their children daily instructions on how to survive. good kids, kids like trayvon, beautiful kids, just fearing for their lives every single day. sometimes fearing for them even when they're grown up because the reality is that black boys, when they become black men are just as vulnerable to being mistreated, to being wrongfully

suspected, to being wrongfully killed and when they are killed, to having their case mishandled by law enforcement. and quite frankly too many entities have become jaded that that's just one more black than that is dead. >> the controversial stand your ground law, 2005, justifying using deadly force, and not just in your home. let me play you a clip of one of the response sororss of that la it -- >> there's nothing in the statute that provides authority for you to pursue or confront other people. this is a self-defense law, there is nothing in the statute to protect someone who is pursuing and accosting other

people. >> what needs to be done. >> i think that particular bill needs to be tweaked, that particular law. and we already have senators who are looking at it because when the bill was passed, nobody ever dreamed that it would cause these kinds of situations. in fact, in the state of of florida, when i was in the state senate, i passed a bill that's called the commission on the status, the social status of black men and boys, simply because we have so much a real issue about black men and boys in this nation. and we need to stop and look at all of those things that that's happening. that particular law needs to be tweaked. it needs to be changed. it needs to be investigated and that council would be a great place to begin to look at it.

i tonight think this was racial profiling, this was murder. >> can i just say something about this law? i read the law and it seems to me that there's two things that need to be said about it. one is that trayvon martin was actually the person who could be using the self-defense argument, because he was not the aggre aggressor. the law does not apply according to to the florida statute, it does not apply for aggressors. i think it's interesting how the chief of police has used this to justify george zimmerman's behavior. there's been plenty of cases, the orlando sentinel documented these cases where the police in florida actually arrested people who made self-defense claims. that is for the judge and jury to decide, not for someone on

the street to make. >> if there is a silver lining, it is that this has opened up this dialogue and it is now a national conversation. one person we have not heard from up until this point, is the president, would you like to hear him speak about this? >> i think that the president really is speaking through his department of justice which is investigating this case. and i really got to go back to this point, any chief who so misinterprets a law of this magnitude, a law that gives permissions to citizens under certain situations to use lethal force, that chief is a danger to his community. because the reality is that no reasonable person could look at this law and think that it gave a license to george zimmerman to hunt down and kill a little boy. the reality is -- >> that chief needs to be fired. >> yes, he needs to go. >> we should say that the vote

of no confidence that was taken against him last night has no force so there's no indication at least at this point that that will happen. >> the city manager should fire him or they should fire the city manager. >> so much more to talk about and i do wish we had more time. fredericka wilson, i know you have that sign outside your office with the number of days with no arrest for trayvon's murder. thank you for being there in florida for us. and by the way, the city manager is going to be on andr"andrea mitchell reports" at 1:00 eastern time. so you'll want to watch that right here on msnbc. i do want to make one more note. last night aida sharpton passed away, the mother of our colleague, reverend al sharpton. our deepest sympathies are with him an his family. but i also want to make sure

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this has been a very good and a very bad 24 hours for mitt romn romney. he got the endorsement everyone wanted jeb bush. but a top aid suggests that the conservative positions that are leading romney to the nomination, could change as quickly as a 1950s era toy. >> he set a reset button. it's almost like an etch a sketch, you shake it up and you start all over again. >> that was just too good for republican rivals to pass up. >> imagine, had mitt romney been

around at the time we were drafting our constitution, he would have just taken it and shaken it up when it appears to be rewrite it. >> every time mitt romney flip-flops to have -- if we're dumb enough to nominate him, we have to accept that in the nomination speech he legal move directly back to the left. >> good to see both of you. it seems almost every time mitt romney, not just a big win, then it gets followed up by a gaft. does it just re-enforce that image of flip-flopper? >> it's been covered to death over the last 24 hours, and you can already predict there will be an etch a sketch ad in the general election. >> i think it's all right been won by one of the progressive

pacs. so it can hit pretty quickly via computer. >> i think it will last for a while, because with a feeding frenzy. for a feeding frenzy to work, it has to fit the sub text of the candidate. and mitt romney's sub text, it was lightly summarized by mitt romney's new radio ad, a liberal and a conservative goes into a bar and the conservative goes hello, mitt. that is mitt romney's sub text. he's been here, there and everywhere across the political spectrum. >> whether this was a deliberate campaign strategy to send a message that we'll come back to the left after the nomination. >> as a writer, i have to give eric bernstrom some credit, he

had a very vibrant image that mitt romney's opponents haven't been able to come up with. it's been such an incredible image, like larry said, those suspicions that people have about romney. >> the people who vote in the largest numbers, are the people who grew up using an etch a sketch. i'm not sure children these days know very much about it, but it was part of our child hoods, right? >> i always tell people the etch a sketch taught me that i had no artistic ability whatsoever. so i'm very grateful. >> i'm sure this happened on the heels of the jeb bush endorseme endorsement. and larry you tweeted about it. a popular florida ex-governor with a latino wife and you got tons of responses, didn't you? >> i did. i was surprised, it kind of touched a nerve more with

republicans than with democrats. they said hey we liked jeb bush, he was a good governor of florida but we don't want him on the ticket because it means taking on all of george w. bush's baggage again. they were strongly negative, they seem more supportive of putting another floridian on the ticket with mitt romney. >> this is a name that we hear a lot. some of the other people know, we don't want it. chris christie says he would not make a good number two. he's pretty funny when he talks about that. and listen to condi rice when he was on andrea missiletchell's s yesterday. >> i don't know how many ways to say this isn't for me. >> does mitt romney need swung like a condi rice or a little bit out of the box? >> it's an interesting question, i think the specker -- we're

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a neighborhood watch volunteer shot trayvon martin last month as he walked through a gated community. a big aspect of this story, the so-called stand your ground law, it's being called into question by so many. including congresswoman fredericka wilson on our show just a little while ago. >> that particular law needs to be tweaked. it needs to be changed. it needs to be investigated. and that council would be a great place to begin, to look at it and i don't think that was the intent of the law. i think that it's being misused in this particular instance. this is rainfall profiling and this is murder. >> sadly, trayvon martin's case is not unique. florida is not the first controversial stand your ground law and it wasn't the last. msnbc's richard lui has been looking into these laws really all across the country, richard.

>> the castle doctrine says you have the right to defend your home with force. stand your ground laws take that right outside the home. now the controversial laws broadly say this, if you are not under taking unlawful activity, you can use force to defend yourself from death or bodily harm. you don't have to retreat if being threatened and you can use deadly force to protect yourself. the law favored by the nra is spreading across the country. take a look at this, seven states have limited stand your ground laws allowing deadly force to defend yourself, but only in certain locations outside the home. and then there are at least four more states where legislation is or was pending on a stand your ground law. that leaves few places untouched across the country. the concern is this, justifiable homicide, killing allowed by laws like stand your ground.

before 2005, justifiable homicide declined from 500 back here to 200 nationally. now after 2005, they increased. a jump of 40%. now that's cross the united states. there was also a period when stand your ground laws increased. back to florida. the st. petersberg sometimes, documented 93 cases of stand your ground in that state. more than 2/3 of those cases involved death. and the accused. close to 2/3 here were not charged or their cases were all together dropped. the bureau of justice says 75% of the time justifiable homicide involve citizens of the same race. >> thank you so much, richard, that's fascinating background, we appreciate it. just moments ago we told you that president obama got to cushing, oklahoma kicking off

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they'll work to dismantle it piece by piece. at the same time house democrats are going all out to defend the affordable care act, nearly two years after the president signed it into law. my next guest has written about president obama from the start of his presidency. david corn is a political analyst and he is author of this new book "showdown". let me ask you first about what's going on in washington now and you can give us a little context based on your reporting in this book. the house republicans piece by piece approach, visible yesterday, they introduced that legislation to abolish the independent payment approach in this new law to keep costs down. your history of studying this president and congress, for example how do you see this health care fight playing out? >> it's interesting because as i wrote at the beginning of this congress a year ago when the tea

party rushed in and david became house speaker, they made a very conscious effort to have a vote to repeal the entire bill. and all of obama's health care reforms. and the bill passed in the house, didn't go anywhere in the senate, but they also didn't make a big deal of it over the years because i think they thought it was not necessarily a winning proposition because they had nothing to replace it with. and so you have all these popular provisions, such as keeping young adults on their parents plans, closing that infamous, you know, medicare doughnut hole for people -- and reporting for this book "showdown" talking about people behind obama's campaign. although he hasn't talked about it all, he hasn't won the election argument by con concentrating on this frez

colons of copies. do you want to take that away from americans? do you want to go back to letting insurance companies throw you off because of preexisting conditions? >> it was interesting as i was looking through the book and seeing as you point out in many cases the ways in which the president actually accomplished quite a lot early on and he did many of them and they are in a way coming back to haunt him many this campaign. does the campaign think they can turn this around, has there been better messaging on the part of republicans? >> people often ask what surprised you in doing this book which is based on a lot of interviews and white house interviews. the president and the people around him develop these long-term trends and strategies and kind of sticks to it. so you just heard mike's report

about the president on energy issues, they're concerned about the immediate rise here in gas prices, but he's also sticking to his alternative energy promotion not just the immediate pipeline. i think they do believe that over the long run they can win this fight, as his top people told me during the boorks they didn't win on the messaging initially as they passed the health care bill through congress. this is a guy, the president, who just has a lot of internal fortitude and his own beliefs and opinions and sometimes that can be the down fall of a politician. but i think we're going to see a really strong fight over to the health care provisions, particularly after what happens with the supreme court case which we decided sometime probably this summer. >> it's going to be fascinating, and people who love inside baseball who want to know what's going on behind the scenes should read this book. david thank you so much and good luck with it.

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walla wallace, what a great idea. you put this together before the debate on birth control started. >> we can see the future, but it was well before this whole so called war on women in the presidential campaign. >> kind of independently, what were your criteria? >> we wanted to take a look at where women are doing well, where they're not doing well. and look at your graphic there, health care and economy top this the list. parenting, how affordable is child care in the case, representation, how many people are in the state house t governor's mansion, in congress and education, how many women are collage great watts. >> ledge take a look at the five stop states. maryland, hawaii, connecticut. why is connecticut there? >> connecticut ranked in the top

five than any other state. 90% of women in connecticut are covered by health insurance. more than half are -- it was at the top and it turned the number one place for women in this country. >> was there something as you were looking at all that really surprised you. >> one thing that didn't surprisous, that kind of makes sense, the places where you have the greatest representation for women, have the strongest reproductive rights, states like california, states like i guess connecticut as well. states where you have the greatest restrictions when it comes to abortion access. the highest birthrates. mitt romney, as you said, his state, massachusetts, is number four, he could be going out there and helping himself -- 90% of the women in that state have

health insurance. >> you're going to release the rankings tomorrow, but give us a preview of some of the commonality of those states that finished last. low representation. >> low representation. this is a topic that we have covered a lot on this program. there are very few states that have a real variety of rights in that regard. and certainly not the house and senate. >> there are a number of states where there's been no woman governor, as we know. no women going to congress. so a lot of work, we can go far ahead, but in these bottom five, you're going to find low income, very low college graduation rate, very low numbers of women getting health care, low representation. and also very restricted access to abortion. these are states where sometimes they don't have any abortion facility throughout the state.

they have very tight laws on the books in terms of what women have to do if they want to get an abortion. >> when i look at that map, i saw places that statistically place low on educational perform, on median income, these are some soft poorer states in the country. so i suppose that list isn't necessarily surprising, it's disturbing, but it's not surprising. >> you see the five there, we'll reveal the worst of the worse tomorrow. again, what we really wanted to do is give women information. we have a fabulous contributor from i village. she said whoa, arkansas isn't even as bad as you think. she did a report that will be on i village. it's important for us to not paint a bleak picture on the entire state and look at the things where people are trying to make improvements as well.

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