due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >> msnbc takes you behind the walls of america's most notorious prisons into a world of chaos and danger. now the scenes you've never seen. "lockup: raw." >> for some inmates, a prison sentence means nothing left to lose. >> what the [ bleep ] it look like? >> if i'm ever put in general population i'm as good as dead. >> but sometimes life has other plans. >> it's either him or me at that point. >> this [ bleep ] was real. it was all there was. >> people often ask me if we've ever had a member of our

production crew attacked or somehow hurt in a prison. and fortunately, the answer to that is no. security is always at the forefront of our minds. our crews are very experienced and know how to carry themselves in prison and never get too comfortable. but the reality of prison is you can go from calm and quiet to a life-and-defcon inflict in an instant. >> about halfway through ten weeks of filming for our "extended stay" series in alabama, our crew experienced that reality firsthand. they had just finished a routine interview with an inmate in his cell. it was a little after 12:00 noon. >> there was a phone call, and one of our producers went back to get this phone call. and if it wasn't for that, we would have been gone, we would have been out to lunch. as we're standing there waiting for our producer to finish with their phone call, these officers run by. so obviously, i turn on the

camera, press record and roll with them. >> suddenly all these officers ran by me and we heard all this commotion and i saw an inmate who was wearing white covered in blood. brian, our cameraman, and i both started filming immediately and realized that a stabbing had taken place. it was such a chaotic scene that i was trying to keep track of what everybody was doing. some of the officers were trying to rescue the stabbing victim. other officers were going after the assailant. >> i got a knife. >> the funny part about that experience was i was so caught up with the officers and what they were doing, i didn't notice until later that i ran right by the actual person that did the stabbing. and in the video, you can see the knife, you can see the officer standing with the guy that did the stabbing, but i followed the action through to the victim. >> hold that.

>> come on, come on. >> go, go, go. >> move it. >> lock him up. >> move it. >> move. >> where are you heading? >> he could have probably killed me if i wanted to. looked like he might have got an artery. it was gushing out pretty good. >> we followed the victim all the way to the ambulance. and one of my favorite moments of that show was the warden going out to the ambulance to see what was happening, and then him turning around to walk back into the building and saying "lock it down," you know, that's it. we're going to figure out what's happening here and i'm still in control. let's go. >> lock it down. all right? >> gordon greg culver placed the prison on lockdown confining every inmate to his cell. >> lock down. we are under a lockdown. >> all right, lockdown, gentlemen. take it in, let's go! >> several days later, the victim was released from the hospital and recovered in the prison's medical unit.

>> we tried to get interviews with both the victim of the stabbing as well as the perpetrator of the stabbing. the victim was an adamant no. he did not want to participate in the documentary. eventually, the assailant said he would talk to us. >> our interview with the stabber, terry moore, gave insight into how little it takes to prompt a potentially deadly attack in prison. >> what happened? >> i had an assault on an inmate. >> why? >> why? because he had stole my shoes. >> actually, this was not a surprise to me. in prison, you have very few possessions. your resources are limited, and if somebody comes and takes one of your possessions, two things happen -- "a," you lose something that could very well be useful to you, and "b," you will be perceived as a weaker person if you don't retaliate. >> well, i just come here from work one day, and they were

missing, and which is one good thing about holman, they talk about everything. i knew it was just a matter of time to find out who had gotten them. >> moore and the inmate alleged to have stolen his shoes work together in the prison laundry. >> so i just started making my plans how i was going to deal with it from then. it took me about four days. >> what took you four days? >> to get a knife and decide where i was going to get him at. >> moore says he decided to attack the inmate in a hallway near the laundry. >> population has no accidents back there. just a few guys and that one officer. >> it was kind of surprising how calm and pragmatic he was in telling us the story about the stabbing incident. >> i'm not proud of it, but i'm not ashamed of it. that's what i feel like i had to do and i did it. >> had you tried talking to him before you stabbed him, or -- >> no, it doesn't work. >> it doesn't work? >> doesn't work like that.

>> moore went on to explain when his shoes first came up missing the inmate he later attacked claimed to have known who stole them. he allegedly told moore that the thief would give the shoes back in exchange for a valuable prison commodity, three bags of coffee. >> i thought, well, okay, three bags of coffee, if i can get it back without going to lockup, don't have to stab no one or get in a fight or what have you, so i think, okay, i'll go with three bags of coffee. >> moore says that after giving the coffee to his co-worker, he was told his shoes couldn't be returned. they had been confiscated by staff. >> obviously, i mean, he just robbed me for the three bags, too. so, i had no choice. either i let it go and i let him come back and steal everything i own or i deal with it. in this case, i deal with it. >> what kind of shoes were they? >> oh, they were just $42 pair of nike running shoes. but it didn't matter if this cost $10 or they cost $100. but if nothing else, the coffee alone was enough to do what i did. >> that's the way it is here?

>> that's the way it is the way i live it. >> terry was very clear about how his actions were justified even though they were extreme actions, because that was part of prison life, that he almost killed a human being because the guy stole his shoes. the irony to me was the fact that terry was in prison for robbery. >> because he was already serving a life sentence, moore did not receive any new criminal charges for the stabbing, but was kept in lockdown until his transfer to another prison later that year. >> it was not the first stabbing, probably not going to be the last time. >> terry, what if he would have died? >> that was something he should have thought of when he took my stuff. was it worth it to him or a question for me to ask. >> coming up. >> any prison gang would be happy to get their hands on shawn gains. >> the ex-leader of a white supremacist gang faces a whole new reality. >> if i'm ever put in general population i'm as good as dead.

when we visited the special management unit at the maricopa county jail in phoenix, arizona, we were struck by how different it felt from the rest of the facility. >> this is where the killers, rapists, the most violent offenders are housed. and when you get up there, it has a very different feel than other areas of the jail, and that's because there's an eerie silence. and the reason there's an eerie silence, as opposed to other segregation units, is because the inmates are housed behind double sets of doors. this is as close to a hannibal lechter cell environment as you can get. they don't even leave for recreation. they just open one of the interior sliding doors and they walk out and they have their 45 minutes of recreation each day, and then boom.

right become into the cell without ever interacting with another inmate. so it has a very ominous feel when you walk through the special management unit. and this is the path that i took when i went to meet shawn gaines. >> 29-year-old shawn gaines had spent most of the last six years in the special management unit, awaiting trial on a first-degree murder charge that could land him on death row. >> i've lived here longer than i ever lived in one spot in my entire life even growing up as a kid so it's just, you know -- i have yet to call it home, but it is what it is. >> gaines may not have wanted to call it home, but his security threat ranking dictated it. he was segregated because he was once a major player in a violent arizona skinhead movement. >> i was the notorious leader of that skinhead group. my lifestyle was full of hate and violence.

>> so with all of that hype, i was expecting shawn gaines to be a very intimidating character, but when i first met him, he wasn't. he looked a little bit more like a benign, pudgy teddy bear, and he was nice. >> i've taken up drawing. i can't quite say i'm an artist but i like to draw a lot and three times a year i draw a large stack of cards, and i donate them to the children's hospital. >> but gaines didn't become a leader in the skinheads by being nice. >> i was power hungry. i got caught up in the hype of telling a bunch of other grown-ass men what to do. all the girls flocked to that scene. it's a nonstop party and it's like you can do no wrong. you talk a bunch of [ bleep ]. beat people up. you cause hate and discontent. that's how i made my rise to power in the skinhead movement. >> and when he took off his shirt, he had some of the most intense nazi skinhead, white

power tattoos that i've ever seen on an inmate. and what's important to understand about tattoos like the ones that shawn had is that you don't get to just put those on your body. you have to do what the inmates call earn your ink. and he had gotten those tattoos because in his past, shawn had done some pretty terrible things. >> first political tattoo i earned was my white pride across my shoulder blades. i got that for smashing a guy and beat him up pretty bad and you can get a plain swastika or a black swastika or what is referred to as a blood swastika which is about as high a level of tattoo you can get, which is what's on my back. >> what do you do to get that? >> shed the blood of another race. >> the murder that landed gaines in the maricopa county jail, however, was not racially motivated. >> my female co-defendant had problems with her roommate. he had stolen some money from

her and had called up a few of her friends, me being one of them, and we went over there to intimidate the guy into giving her money back. the intention was to have three burly skinheads going in there, boots on, white power clothing, just looking mean. and one is carrying a baseball bat and one is carrying a shotgun, the other a knife. i mean, i had a -- >> what were you carrying? >> i was carrying a shotgun. that's intimidating. >> but it didn't stop at intimidation. within minutes, one of the skinheads had beaten the man to death with the baseball bat. >> he was probably dead after the first hit. the first hit was to his head and just -- it was just nasty, vicious, bloody, brutal. >> while gaines admits he was a party to the crime, he claims it was one of his co-defendants who actually killed the victim. he and his lawyer have been fighting to get the charges reduced for years now. >> if you're convicted of first-degree murder, you'd be eligible for the death penalty.

>> i'll get the death penalty, yes. where i carry guilt, i could have stopped it. i could have stepped up and grabbed him. i mean, i played the scenario over and over and over. i mean, even one word out of my mouth would have stopped him. and i didn't say [ bleep ]. i stood there and just let him continue to hit that man. >> gaines went on to tell us that he was no longer the skinhead that participated in that or any other heinous act. >> i was a hypocrite, a bigot, a hatemongerer. that was just as evil as any one of the rest of the dumb asses around here so i wasn't always a good person. >> in 2004, while awaiting trial, he not only renounced his gang affiliation, but decided to tell all. >> i have pulled people covers that were not known. i have given up information on other crimes. i've not held back. i renounced publicly through doing interviews hike this, i've

renounced with officers. i mean, to every extent, i've ruined myself, i've made it public knowledge. i made it to where everybody knows, i don't have a chance to go back to that lifestyle. i don't want to go back to that lifestyle. >> in fact, he even works with some organizations to combat racism. >> i'm a source of information of the southern poverty law center, to one people's project, the anti-racist action. i've done all i can to change myself as a person and not only to renounce and to become a hermit from that lifestyle but to actually take an opposition against it. >> but there was a price for coming clean. >> you're basically deemed a snitch, so that's why my custody is what it is. i mean, if i'm ever put in general population, i'm as good as dead. >> any prison gang would be happy to get their hands on shawn gaines. >> it's kill or be killed for me now, so i'll spend my time in protective custody, more than likely slammed down the entire time.

>> while his public confession may have put gaines' life in danger, it also generated some welcome attention from the outside world. >> apparently, i'm writing my fiancee. >> you have a fiancee? >> yeah. >> is this someone you knew before you were incarcerated? >> no. i met her since i was in here. the interview i did with southern poverty law center. she read that and dropped me a couple postcards of encouragement commending the changes i made so we've been pen pals for almost two years now and been together for about the last year. she's beautiful. she has a good heart, smart, funny, loves me to death, takes good care of me. so, i couldn't ask for more. and not to mention, she's willing to stand by me and do the time with me, so i'm pretty blessed. >> coming up -- >> after the 36 hours they take the baby from you and you just have to hand the baby over and you go straight back to prison. >> the harsh reality of being pregnant in prison. 14 clubs.

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when jennifer rose described her worst day at the tennessee prison for women to us, she left no doubt about how bad it really was. >> i was sick, literally sick -- physically, emotionally, crying, devastated. there's no way to explain it. it's the worst thing i've ever had to go through in my life. >> technically, though, rose wasn't in prison that day. she was in a nearby hospital giving birth. >> i don't wish it on nobody. it was awful. they treat you pretty much like an inmate. it's no privacy at all. and i got to keep the baby in the hospital room with me for 36 hours. and after the 36 hours, they kind of take the baby from you. that's the hardest part. you just have to hand the baby over and you go straight back to prison. then i went through the whole crying spell for, like, a couple weeks, nothing but crying, crying, crying. >> with we met rose six months

later, she was serving a four-year sentence for theft and forgery, but when she first got to prison, she didn't even know she was pregnant. >> while i was in classification which is where you have to be for 30 days when you first get here, i found out i was pregnant. and so, i've been here since then through my whole pregnancy. >> one of the saddest things i think we film in "lockup" is the case where a pregnant inmate has to decide what to do with her baby. at tennessee prison for women, they have this wonderful and unique program through their chapel where families of the community care for the babies of these inmates until the women were released from prison. >> terry haygood has been raising jennifer's son caden since he was born. >> hi. >> isn't he cute? he's gotten big. >> hi. >> that's okay. that's okay. hey, caden, are you going to smile for mommy?

there's a smile. smile! >> there's these women in our church that still have the heart for little ones, even though my baby's 13. so, women joy him and he's special, and it gives us the time to have a little one around and that kind of thing and get to know jennifer and be an encouragement to her as well. >> terry learned about the prison program from karen rowmore, who always felt something for inmates. >> i just felt led to get involved because i just think of somebody in prison alone and, you know, only have 2% of the prisoners actually get visitors every week. so, that tugged at my heart, too, and i just began praying for the person that i needed to minister to. it's been a really neat transition just seeing jennifer from one point to now. it's just a totally different person. >> watching these two women bring caden into the prison and seeing the love they had for both caden and jennifer was

truly inspirational. and then terry, taking full responsibility for this child, knowing that she was going to give the child back to jennifer when she got out of prison, astounded me. >> they cannot take custody from you without a reason to. and as long as you have somebody to take care of him, you still have full custody. they just have temporary custody until you're released. and then once upon your release from here, you'll be given back all custody. so, that gives me the focus to know i have to do what i have to do to get out of here, to get him back and get my life back. >> what are you doing while you're in prison? how are you spending your days here? >> ged classes, and then hopefully, after i get my ged, i start some college classes. my goal is to be a vet tech hopefully within two years i can be in a vet school somewhere. >> it was really sweet to watch jennifer with her son caden. the love was very obvious. then i found out that jennifer had four other children that she

lost custody of and hadn't seen for three years. so, it became obvious to me that this was her second chance of actually being a mother and raising her child. >> now he is eating vegetables. >> mm-hmm. >> and fruit and a bottle and he goes for his six-month checkup next week and he'll probably get shots. >> oh, no, bubba, you've got to get shots! look at your mama. this is your mama, yes. emotionally, i have to tell myself that it's just time for bonding with him. but the hardest part is knowing that i have to leave him and go back to the cell. >> hopefully, when she gets out, it will be easier for them to bond again and be connected. >> you know, i just talk to him the whole time and try to look in his eyes, keep him looking at me, so hopefully, my picture will stick in his head.

it's hard. i don't get to see like his first time he rolled over, the first time he grabbed at something. that part bothers me. but when i'm with him, it's just like i wish that time would hold still so i could spend more time with him, but i treasure every minute, you know? >> coming up -- >> what the [ bleep ] this look like? i'm moving about the dome. >> one inmate struggles, not only with his anger but his anger management class. >> i took a ten-pound weight and i bust his head.

"msnbc now." i'm veronica de la cruz. president obama is in south korea, where he's about to hold a joint news conference with the country's president. earlier, he visited the demilitarized zone between south and north korea. rick santorum has won the louisiana primary, beating mitt romney by a substantial margin tonight. and former vice president dick cheney is in a virginia hospital after undergoing a heart transplant. cheney has been on the transplant list for 20 months. we'll have more news coming up,

but first, back to "lockup." >> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. ♪ in the heart of the deep south, the long, hot days of summer often give rise to fierce thunderstorms. and in places like alabama's maximum security holman correctional facility, they can also lead to violence. >> all right. anybody in here been stressed out by the heat this week? and it has been hot. did y'all know they broke a record in mobile? it was 100 degrees. that was 120-year-old record. does anybody agree in here when everybody gets hot everybody gets meaner and madder? >> ain't no doubt. >> packed into a tiny classroom

without air conditioning, mental health professional leslie dodds leads 18 inmates in an anger management class designed to help them recognize and control their emotions. >> is it possible to stay in prison, have a long sentence and be here for a long period of time and not it get a duplinry? is it possible? >> it is possible. all you have to do is obey authority and stuff, right? >> walter says it is. do you agree or disagree? >> i disagree with walt. i've been in here for years and i got 57 disciplinaries. some of them i got was because of the administration because of certain situations happened. just like a case where somebody broke in my box and i stabbed them. you know what i was saying. i wasn't bothering nobody. >> percy bradley jumped out at me immediately when i first met him. he was a very angry guy and he was very vocal about advocating violence. >> i come to prison when i was 21 years old. i'm 21 years old, maximum security prison. i've been locked up 30 years and he said he liked me in a gay

way. if i let him tell me stuff like that, ain't no telling what probably would have happened. so i took a ten-pound weight and i bust his head. you know what i'm saying? that's what i'm talking about in situations like that. all he had to do was leave my stuff alone. they broke it once, i let it slide. they broke it again, i couldn't let it slide. i'd keep getting run over. >> i also want to reiterate the point that if it were not possible to do, it would not be done. it is possible because people do it. there are men in here who have been here for 30 years with no disciplinaries. everybody doesn't react to stress with violence. that is a fact. and you may not agree with it, but it is a fact. >> when we met percy bradley, he was serving a 20-year sentence for assault and robbery and had been at the center of numerous conflicts at holman. though his violent behavior had tapered off, he had just been

assigned to anger management after a disciplinary write-up for arguing with another inmate. >> how many disciplinaries? >> 57. >> how did that happen? >> it's a [ bleep ] jungle. it's a jungle. it's been a jungle my whole 11 years. know what i'm saying. so, people say, you can't blame other people for what you do, can't blame other people for your action. that's a damn lie. >> why? >> you've got to blame other people. you've got to blame other people, because you can do the best you can to stay avoiding other people and people will do stupid stuff. there's a certain way a person has to live in prison. prison made me the way i am right now. >> how about your response to those stupid things? >> but it all depends on what they do. >> no, you can never blame other people for your behavior. you don't think there is anything wrong with the way you behave or the way you handle stress and anger? then you're in the wrong class, because you first have to say, yes, i have a problem and stop

blaming other people for what you have done. that's a huge problem in here. >> percy obviously believed violence was a necessary tool in prison, but the fact was, over the last couple years, he had a clean record. so, he was able to move into the honor dorm, which was the least restrictive housing unit at holman. >> it's full of inmates trying to change their life and learn different things, but it's all a crock of [ bleep ]. >> tell me why because you seem really unhappy. >> because you got certain guys in here feel like they run the dorm. you've got certain guys in here that feel like they [ bleep ], and then they apply the rules -- they've got a list of rules here, but it only applies to certain people, certain group of people. >> what are some of the things people have done to provoke you? >> breaking the box, disrespect me verbally, bump into me, don't

say "excuse me." curse at me, any of them -- the least little thing, i'm just that dude, man. i just been that way all my life. you know, anything like that, i'll handle it straight up off the top. >> how? >> any way, any means necessary, straight up. if i stab you or bust your head or something, by my fist, i'm going to handle you straight up. >> let me ask you a question. everything you described to me, disrespects or whatever, you don't think that happens in the free world? >> can i speak freely? >> yeah. >> [ bleep ] no. [ bleep ] no. in the free world i ain't got to deal would those dudes because i stand up for what's right and it's got something to do with me and it's nobody he's business. it's nobody else's business. >> you stab somebody, that's their business. >> yeah, but they had to do something for me to stab them. >> while bradley may not have been making much progress with the philosophy of anger management, the investigation into his latest write-up was moving right along. >> they got me. >> this time, it was for getting

into a loud argument with another honor dorm inmate. >> so sit there, percy. let's go over this thing with this write-up you got. >> bradley's write-up included testimony from other honored dorm inmates, all of whom agreed that bradley started the confrontation. >> they said this is not the first time you've been written up for your anger problems out there, too. they got some other things attached here to where you have gotten written up. >> but i didn't threaten that guy or nothing. i walked off. my fists weren't balled up or nothing. >> it says here they felt that if you had improved by being allowed to stay in the dorm, then they would recommend him to stay. however, they feel like you're not going to stop this behavior and they're not going to allow it. so, the bottom line is that the community managers, their recommendation is you be moved out of the dorm. so right now today i'm going to agree with them. i'm going to agree with them, all right? you have any other questions? >> no, sir.

>> all right. i appreciate you coming up. >> outside the hearing room, bradley was less accepting of the decision. >> that's a bunch of [ bleep ]. even ask for [ bleep ]. man, this is [ bleep ] up. i'm going to be me. i ain't going do what you want me to do. i ain't going to say what you want me to say. >> technically, my job is to be an observer, but there was something about percy every single time i talked to him, i think i got a little tired of hearing this blame game from him. so, i decided to confront him. i see a lot of guys in here. i've talked to a lot of guys. everybody has a different path. not everybody walks around angry all the time. you're blaming everybody else. >> oh, that's what you think. i ain't blaming -- that's what you think. that's what you think. i don't get mad at everybody, you know what i'm saying.

you got to see some of the [ bleep ] they do around here. what you expect me to do? what you expect me to do? >> the following morning, it was time for bradley to leave the honor dorm. >> we were filming when the officers awakened percy to escort him out of the honor dorm. >> percy. pack up. we're going to take you. leave one box. >> and our cameraman brian asked percy a question while he was filming him and percy was annoyed and upset and lashed out at brian. >> what did he ask you to do now? >> what the [ bleep ] it look like? i'm moving out the dorm. >> i think the drama of having the officer wake him up and then, you know, us being there with the camera in his face, i think it bothered him. and we understand, we don't take it personally. we're in their environment. >> they woke you up? >> yeah, they woke me up with this [ bleep ] with a bunch of [ bleep ] in here. that is what is going on out

here. >> but what was interesting to me was after, you know, we continued to film him, suddenly percy turned to brian and apologized. >> my bad. i snapped on you, man. i just woke up, you know? >> what's that? >> my bad if i kind of griped at you, man. i was just waking up. >> i understand. >> it was a little surprising to see him kind of let his guard down and apologize. but i was like, wait a second, you don't need to apologize, you know. you just do your thing and don't worry about us. >> don't all give my clothes away before i get back. >> there was the first flicker of awareness in percy, and he actually stopped and was realizing how he was being perceived by other people. when percy got moved back into the general population dorm, he almost acted as though it was his choice, but i think he knew it was a demotion, and i think he felt bad about it, so he had to put on this front for the other guys. >> i've been over here before,

it ain't like i been over here. all these [ bleep ] know me. i been in prison 11 years. this is just another part of prison. i'm talking about i don't need to worry about this [ bleep ] redneck, that cracker man. this is real. this is real. that's what you need to film. that's fake and passive. fruity. >> now that percy got kicked out of the honor dorm, he was no longer required to go to anger management classes. so, just out of curiosity, i asked him what he was going to do the next day. >> what you mean? >> what's tomorrow? >> [ bleep ]. the same thing that went on out there. i just got to go to anger management. >> you've got to what? >> i just got to go to anger management. that's it. >> are you going to go? >> yeah, i'm going because i need it. >> i honestly, in my head, i thought, well, you know, this is going to be a kind of long process. he's going to have to eventually

get it. but when we ended up comeback in the anger management class, it was like a different person. >> frustration when they get to me, man, i lash out. i act on it. you know what i'm saying but i'm trying to learn by being around certain other guys that turn that stuff toward other direction, you know what i'm saying, like boxing and working out and all that stuff. even -- i'm even starting out where i starting to read more so i'm trying to do the best i can to turn that stuff around. i ain't to the point where i'm ready to let go of that certain thing. >> you know what the first step towards solving the problem is admitting there is a problem and that sort of sounds like what you're doing now. >> i'm going to use a cliche. i want to chew up the meat and spit out the bone, you know what i'm saying, but i'm so pig-headed and stubborn, i'm going to eat the whole chicken, you know what i'm saying? >> bone and all, huh? >> bone and all. >> one of the hardest things about this job is we only get to see a little sliver of these people's lives. we don't often get to see the end of a story. and in the case of percy, it

felt like we were seeing a beginning. >> coming up -- >> oh, look at you. >> two friends cope with the reality of a premature end to a prison sentence. hello. i'm veronica de la cruz in the msnbc newsroom. president obama is in south korea for a key nuclear summit. he met with south korea's president lee myung-bak a short

time ago and they're ready to speak to the media briefly about those talks. let's go ahead and listen in. [ speaking foreign language ] >> translator: and i wish to thank you, mr. president, for taking time to visit early this morning, soon after your arrival in seoul. mr. president, i'm sure it was a chance to witness firsthand the reality of division that has been a part of korea for such a long time, and i gather you had a good time meeting with the members of the armed forces from both korea and the united states, and thank you for the encouragement that you gave these men and women in uniform. today, ladies and gentlemen, we

had a very useful and constructive discussion on a wide array of issues, from north korea's nuclear and missile development and including other security issues, and also how to promote bilateral trade between our two countries, and of course, other topics of mutual interest. and we talked about the security situation in the region and the situation on the korean peninsula and agreed to continue working closely together in implementing our north korea policy. both countries agree that north korea's announcement to test fire its long-range missile is a violation of u.n. security council resolutions, not to mention the latest agreement between the u.s. and north korea. therefore, president obama and i both agree that north korea must immediately repeal its decision and abide by its international

obligations. president obama and i agreed that we will continue to enhance and strengthen our combined defense capabilities, and at the same time, firmly respond to any threats or provocations from the north. if north korea gave up its pursuit of nuclear weapons and missile development and, instead, chooses a path towards peace and cooperation, our two countries will work together along with the international community to help improve the lives of the people in north korea and provide necessary assistance that will help north korea open up a new era. and we reaffirm the value and importance of our enduring alliance and discuss the future vision of our partnership. following the adoption of the future vision of the alliance, which was adopted in june 2009, our alliance is evolving into a truly global partnership where

we are working shoulder to shoulder to resolve global challenges. furthermore, we reviewed the progress being made in our alliance, such as the transfer of two plus two security consultations and agreed that we will strengthen our deterrents capabilities through enhanced policy coordination and strive towards a future-oriented alliance. ladies and gentlemen, we will also work together so that the course that went into effect last month march 15th will fulfill its goal. that is create jobs for our workers, increase trade and investments and improve the overall lives of our peoples. and accordingly, in order to ensure the faithful implementation of the core fta,

we will establish an entry-level committee that we agreed and check upon the progress. president obama and i also exchanged views on the state of the global economy and shared our concern regarding the uncertainties that still remain. in particular, we share the concern that rising oil prices is an obstacle to speedy recovery of the global economy and agree that international cooperation needed to be further strengthened to bring about stability in the world oil market. and of course, we also talked about regional issues, issues in the middle east, afghanistan and other issues, including iran, and how we can strengthen international cooperation to bring about a resolution to these issues. i welcome president obama once again on his visit. the nuclear security summit was president obama's initiative,

borne out of his vision to leave behind a safer, more prosperous world for the future generation, and we will continue to strive together to achieve a world without nuclear weapons. i thank him and his team for all the help in ensuring a successful nuclear summit meeting. thank you. >> well, good evening, everyone. thank you to my good friend and partner, president lee, for his very kind words, and thank you to the people of korea for your gracious welcome. this is my third visit to the republic of korea as president. it is wonderful to be back. and once again, i'm grateful for the hospitality. this visit reflects the extraordinary friendship between our two people. my wife and i were proud to help strengthen those ties when we had the honor of hosting president lee and first lady kim for a state visit at the white house last fall. and during that visit, i learned a korean word that i believe

captures the deep affection between our people, chong. and i feel that spirit again today. my visits to korea reflect the leadership role that south korea's playing in this region and around the world, a global korea. i was last here for the g-20, which was a success under president lee's leadership. now we're back along with more than 50 world leaders for the second nuclear security summit. in fact, just today, we saw another important step forward. we learned that ukraine completed the removal of highly enriched uranium from its territory. this fulfills a commitment ukraine made at our last nuclear security summit in washington, and i believe it's a preview of the kind of progress we're going to see over the next two days in confronting one of the most urgent challenges of global security, securing the world's nuclear weapons and preventing nuclear terrorism. my visit to korea also reflects the enduring strength of our

alliance. my last visit to seoul came as we marked both the 60th anniversary of the korean war and veterans day. and today, i traveled, as president lee mentioned, to the dmz, to thank our men and women in uniform, american and korean, who serve shoulder to shoulder. they're the reason that we can stand here free today and prosperous here today, and we salute them all. my visit to korea reflects the fact that the united states is leading again in the asian pacific, a region that will affect american security and prosperity in the 21st century like no other. as i declared in australia last year, the united states as a pacific nation will play a larger and long-term role in shaping this region and its future, and the cornerstone of our efforts is our strong alliances, including our alliance with the republic of korea. this is the context for our meeting today. and as president lee indicated, we had a very good discussion on

a wide range of issues. we reviewed our ongoing efforts to modernize our security alliance. we agreed to have our foreign and defense ministers meet in june to discuss concrete measures we can take to continue strengthening that alliance. we're on track for south korea to assume operational control for the alliance in 2015. i reaffirmed, as i said in australia, that reductions in u.s. defense spending will not come at the expense of the asia-pacific, and that includes south korea. america's armed for forces are going to stay ready for the full range of contingencies and threats, and the alliance between the united states and the republic of korea remains unshakeable. we reviewed our great progress in bringing our economies even closer. during my last visit to seoul, we pledged to get our landmark trade agreement done. on president lee's visit to washington, it passed our congress. on this visit, we can say that our trade agreement is now in force. we got it done.

this is a win for both of our countries. more jobs and opportunities for our workers and businesses on both sides of the pacific. that includes supporting some 70,000 american jobs and keeping us on track to meet my goal of doubling american exports. we discussed regional security, and that, obviously, includes the issue of north korea. last month, north korea agreed to a series of steps, including a moratorium on long-ranged missile launches. this month, north korea announced its intention to conduct a missile launch. as president lee mentioned, this would constitute a direct violation of pyongyang's own commitments and its international obligations. moreover, it would only deepen north korea's isolation, damage further its relations with its neighbors and seriously undermine the prospects of future negotiations. i'll have more to say in my speech tomorrow about our commitment to security and peace

on the korean peninsula and the choice pyongyang must make. today, i'll simply say that north korea will achieve nothing by threats or by provocations. north korea knows its obligations, and it must take irreversible steps to meet those obligations. on this, the united states and the republic of korea are absolutely united. since south korea is one of our key global partners, we discussed a range of challenges to international security. i again want to thank south korea for its important contributions to reconstruction in afghanistan, and i updated the president on our preparations for the nato summit in chicago, where we will chart the next phase of the transition to afghan lead. and i also thank the president of south korea's strong support of sanctions on iran because of its failure to meet its international obligations. i know this decision does not come without costs, both to the republic of korea as well as our own country, but the prospects

of an iran with nuclear weapons would be a threat to the world, and this is one more example of south korea stepping up and playing a leadership role on the world stage. finally, we're deepening the ties between our people. we agreed to expand educational exchanges, which will give more korean students the opportunity to study in the united states, which benefits both of our countries. so, once again, president lee, i thank you for your hospitality, for your leadership. our alliance is strong, our commitment to the security and prosperity of our people is unwavering, and i'm confident that under south korea's leadership, the nuclear security summit is going to be a great success. thank you.

>> translator: we'll now take questions from the press. from korea broadcasting service. >> translator: the question going out to president lee. as predicted, you just explained that you and president obama discussed the issue of north korea's impending rocket launch. but despite the international community's warnings, how will you respond if north korea goes ahead and test fires its long-range missile? what will korea do? what kind of sanctions are you planning to impose on north korea? and could you explain the status of the negotiations regarding extending the missile range of south korea? in a recent press interview, you spoke about the fact that discussions are proceeding between the u.s. and korea regarding extending the missile

range of south korea. can you explain the status of the negotiations? >> translator: thank you, mr. troy. you asked about north korea's impending launch of its long-range missile, and let me just reiterate once again, ladies and gentlemen, if north korea goes ahead with its plan to test launch its long-range missile, this is a clear violation of u.n. security council resolution 1874. north korea, if it goes ahead with its plan, will be going straight against its pledges that it made with the international community. international community is urging the north koreans to repeal its announcement to test fire its long-range missile. now, your question was how are we going to respond. i just want to answer that question by saying that if north korea goes ahead with it, north korea must be the sole country to bear the entire

responsibility. as president obama just mentioned, if it goes ahead with its plan, it will only deepen its isolation. and all the consequences north korea will have to face. and from the perspective of the people of north korea, they will understand that its leader's spending hundreds of millions of dollars just to test launch a long-range missile, and watching their leader do so, they're not going to feel proud that their country was able to launch a long-range missile. rather, they will get truly understand the nature of their leaders and understand why they have to go through such hardships today. so, domestically, i'm sure the north korean leaders are hoping to achieve some sort of an objective by test launching its long-range missile, but they must clearly understand that if they go ahead with the plan, that they will put themselves in

a very difficult position. i urge the north koreans to come out as a responsible member of the international community, and that is the surest way to ensure a better life for the people of north korea. in this regard, there is no difference of opinions between the u.s. and south korea. we'll remain very calm and rational, and we will be wise in dealing with the north koreans, if, in fact, they do go ahead with their announcement. you asked about extending the missile range of south korea. we did not discuss that issue. of course, working-level officials have been discussing this issue, but you have to look at this from a more holistic framework, in that extending the missile range is part of enhancing our missile capabilities, vis-a-vis north korea.