is necessary and proper and that's where the argument will focus tomorrow and i think don virelli has the better of the arguments both in theory and actual practice and experience. >> all right. dr. zeke emmanuel gets the last word. thank you for joining me. >> "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. one month ago today, trayvon martin was gunned down on the streets of sanford, florida. new details are emerging about the events of that night and the conservative media is smearing the reputation of a dead 17-year-old. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> they have kill mid son and are trying to kill his reputation. >> new details have been released and george zimmerman's

defenders are spinning his racist remark. >> it is a difference between a c and g from what i understand. and goon is apparently a term of endearment in high schools these day sghs we are going to florida for the latest. the right wing smear machine is attacking trayvon martin. we have reaction. history was made inside of the supreme court today outside it was another political circus. >> if you want obama care repeelted there is only one person that can make it happen. >> johnathon cohen of the new republic was in the room for the argue. and is here with the latest. it is tebow time in new york. we will show you what happened when tim tebow met the new york press. >> i thank my lord and savior jooes jesus christ because that is the most important thing to me but i don't think the attention is just because of my faith. >> good to have you with us. thank you for watching. the effort to smear trayvon martin is in full tilt.

one month after the 17-year-old was killed, police have suddenly released part of their investigation. the city of sanford, florida posted police reports on the website. in it one officer described george zimmerman this way. i could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass. as if he had been lying on his back on the ground. zimmerman was also b back of hi head. trayvon martin can obviously not defend himself but george zimmerman can. according to the orlando senlt nell newspaper, shorts say that trayvon martin approached george zimmerman from behind as zimmerman was walking back to his suv. they exchanged words and then trayvon bunched him in the nose, sending him to the ground and began beating him. but the miami herald raises many questions about the police investigation. one witness who heard the crying

said she called a detective repeetdly but said he was not interested because her account differed from zimmerman's. trayvon's parents dispute this and believe it is part of character assassination of their son. >> even in death they are disrespecting my son. >> sglonl comment that i have right now is they have killed my son and now they are trying to kill his reputation. >> he was suspended because traces of marijuana were found in a plastic baggy in a book bag. the family attorney responded to that. >> whatever trayvon martin was suspended for he was suspended because traces

of marijuana was found in a book bag. the family attorney responded to that. >> whatever he was suspended for had no bearing on what happened on the night of february 26th. if he and his friends experimented with marijuana, that is still completely irrelevant to george zimmerman killing their son on the night of february 26th. once again, law enforcement is attempting to demonize and blame the victim by releasing bits and pieces of their ongoing investigation. >> a friend of george zimmerman, joe oliver has been making the rounds. he says he wants to diffuse the situation. here is what he says about the racial slur in the 911 tape. >> to me it's a matter of interpretation of whether he's saying coon or goon. there are a lot of parts of this country where people call themselves coon [ expletive ] i know too many people that use that term as a racial slur. as for as that other word, goon, by my 17-year-old daughter that that among her peers that is a term of endearment. >> he says he finds it unusual the police are so slow to release information.

>> there's a gap there still even with all this other information about how the two met. there's still a gap that's mising that hasn't been released about how the gun went off. i don't understand why this information is taking so long to come out, given the past practices of florida law enforcement and releasing information in a high-profile case. >> today there was another rally in sanford, florida. martin's parents appeared at a city commission. tonight, the overwhelming theme was people were asking, why hasn't there been an arrest in this case. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question will george zimmerman supporters be able to paint him as a victim? text a for yes, b for no to 626339 or go to our blog at ed@msnbc.com. we will have the results later in the show. i am joined by a senior

reporter from the "huffington post" and walter -- president and ceo of global investigative group and retired police chief from florida jae gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. i understand that you have been with the family for most of the day. how are they responding to this leaked information, which obviously is trying to paint their son as some kind of a misfit. >> the legal team had prepared the family for this. they said as the case rolls along there will inevitably be push back and attempt to discredit their son. i spoke to the father this evening and said they are committed to continue the fight because the world is watching. if they stop everyone else will stop. they want to keep the wheels moving regardless of what opposition they are confronted with. >> what was said at that commission meeting this evening. >> speaker after speaker from congresswoman sheila jackson lee

to corinne brown to al sharpton to jesse jackson, said to hold the sanford police department responsible and accountable for missteps and as we hear over and over, the arrest of george zimmerman. be it the state police or the federal investigators they want an arrest and soon. >> what do you make of the timing of the release of this information via a website when there's been so much media pressure the last few weeks, is this standard operator procedure? >> no. the information should have been revealed earlier in the process. the fact they are releasing bits and pieces of the investigation is rather suspicious in itself. by florida statute and other states the release of ongoing investigations is prohibited and once they complete the investigation they will be able to release the entire investigative reports.

but there have been some issues with the initial investigation report and how the officers responded to the scene. >> okay. what are they? what's the number one thing that jumps out at you as an investigator and a former police chief? >> well, the first thing is they responded to the scene. the first responding officer approaches mr. zimmerman. he sees trayvon laying on the ground and he approaches mr. zimmerman and ask cans if he had seen the subject. mr. zimmerman identifies himself saying i'm the one that shot the individual. you would think the officer would ask him why, or what had occurred. nowhere, in his investigation report, is there any mention as if he asked why did you shoot him? what happened here, nothing to that affect. that is crucial evidence to any investigation. >> i want to ask you about this police report. none of it matches up -- at

least from what i can see, none of it matches up with any of the 911 tape. what about this piece of information where one of the witnesses who heard crying said she called a detective repeatedly but said he was not interested because her account differed from zimmerman's. what do you make of that? >> if there is any truth to that, i think it just reflects extremely poorly on the detective and the sanford police department. i mean, here we have a homicide investigation. i don't think you can get anymore serious of a crime than a homicide. for them to just push this back and not return calls to a witness and probably a key witness is unquestionable. that is totally incompetence in the investigation. >> trymaine, what was the family's reaction to the information released today? >> i think the family all along expected this to come. they were indeed hurt, but they still had more questions. they said the thing that people

should be focused on is that their son was killed and unarmed and i want to go back to the initial reports. on march 8th, i spoke to chief lee for 10 to 15 minutes and there was never any mention of any of this information. what he told me is that zimmerman got out of the vehicle and followed trayvon martin. and at some point trayvon martin turned around and asked what he wanted. this is a complete shift from what i am hearing now. the family suspected at some point this information would come out. >> trymaine, did police chief lee ever tell you that zimmerman was handcuffed and that medics attended to him in a patrol car and he was bleeding? did any of that -- was that ever said to you as a reporter. >> never, not once. >> mr. zalioko what do you make of that? >> if the officer approached zimmerman and he's bleeding from

the back of his head and nose the logical question is what happened here. none of that was asked. the only thing reported is that zimmerman is telling the emts that i was calling for help and nobody would respond. zimerman was not a suspect. the police could have questioned him at that point. you only have to invoke your constitutional rights once you become a suspect. i don't understand why the police did question zimmerman more at the scene. he was questioned later on in the police station. but you are right at the scene this. you get vital information at the initial point of the incident. >> trymaine, another thing that bothers me about the police report, they knew who the slain victim was. they knew who trayvon martin was. it says how much he weighed, how tall he was. obviously they must have had a driver's license or something

but there was no followup to find his parents anywhere. why didn't they go door to door? >> i think that's what has so many people confused and perplexed. why not go door to door. they had his cell phone. why not call the last numbers he called. for days on end, trayvon martin was listed as a john doe. it is the mounting questions that keep plaguing the family. tonight at the city council hearing, they implored the commission, what would you want done if this you your child, your son or daughter? that's the part that having spent some time with the family that bothers them the most. they don't have any answers and it doesn't seem like anyone is pressuring the police department or investigators as to why they allowed george zimmerman to go home with the dna evidence on his shirt. if there was blood or evidence on his clothing. so, again, these questions are mounting. this is really disturbing the family. >> one more thing i want to bring up with both of you.

this joe oliver who seems to be going out doing the media rounds. is he credible? does he know zimmerman and what's the connection there? >> i will have to say like so much in george zimmerman's life, there's a fog here. so i have to admit, i don't know much about the connection twine mr. oliver and mr. zimmerman, but it doesn't surprise me that none of us know much about him. there is a wall we are trying to break through. as bits and pieces come out we are learning more. but like so much in this case, more questions than answers. >> and mr. zalisko, does this cloud the picture more or do you see anything cleared up as a positive step toward justice? >> i think this whole investigation is cloudy right from the beginning. no matter what they put out now,s this always going to have some question about the validity of it. >> is it a good old boy network at work? >> well, let's face it, central florida has a history of good

old boys here. you would hate to see this be the case here, but it is what it is. >> trymaine lee and mr. zalisko, appreciate your time. thank you so much. make sure to share your thoughts on twitter. we want to know what you think. coming up, right wingers are trying to demonize trayvon martin. turner clayton junior will be joining me later. he's the seminole county naacp. he will join me to talk about it and years of right-wing attacks on health care reform have finally led to the -- gone to the supreme court. three days of hearings kicked off today. johnathon cohen of the new republic was in the chamber and he will join me tonight. stay with us. we'll be right back. -- you don't like it. but you've never tried it? see the problem here... ♪

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who's dead and sanitize who was the cause of the death. >> that was reverend al sharpton earlier today in sanford, florida some right wingers will do anything to defend the stand your ground law and they have no problems smearing an innocent kid in the progress. one wrote that progressives are trying to turn trayvon martin's death in to a racial litmus test adding that president obama's personal remarks on the matter poured gas on the fire. and yet had no issue fanning the flames on her right wing website by posting this picture claiming the african-american kid in the photo was trayvon martin. turns out it was not. the website has since apologized but needless to say, it was ruthless and reckless. i'm joined by turner clayton junior, president of the turner county branch of the naacp. good to have you with us tonight. the new developments on the

press release that is out, the report that is out by the police department, sheds some light on it. some seem to be using that as an effort to defend george zimmerman. what do you make of this personal attack that's taken place in the characterization of the victim? >> we expected the right wing to come out that way. when you look at all of the evidence, you will find that actually mr. trayvon martin was actually defending himself. the fact that the stand your ground statute does not apply in this case. >> other right wingers are trying to tie the new black panthers to this story. is this race baiting in your opinion and what do you make of it? >> yeah. in fact we don't condone the action of the black panthers. they are offering a $10,000 bounty for mr. zimmerman, we don't condone that. i understand they are saying to bring him in dead or alive. that's not what we are all

about. we are a nonviolent organization and we want justice to prevail in the courtroom. >> zimmerman's attorney and friends are out there painting trayvon martin as a villain. how sad is that? >> that's very sad. he was a victim who lost his life. yet they are trying to defend the perpetrator who actually did the killing. now, mr. zimmerman, who was in pursuit of mr. martin, was asked by the police dispatch -- are you following this kid. he said yes i am. we don't need you to do that. mr. zimmerman should have stopped at that point but he didn't. by continuing on, mr. zimmerman is beginning to stalk mr. martin in this case. and he got out of his vehicle and approached mr. martin. it was not the other way around and if you are the aggressor, you are the one perpetrating the crime. that's what happened this this case. >> in the police report, it says zimmerman was allegedly bleeding if his nose and the back of his head and that the officer thought that he had been laying

on the ground because he had grass on his back. none of the 911 audio matches up with any of that. of course we haven't heard all of the audio. then of course the lady, who's been trying to contact detectives and they apparently didn't want to hear her side of the story. what do you make of all of this? >> i think that is poor investigation. apparently, she tried to make a statement earlier that the night and of course they only took a brief statement from her. of course they were supposed to go back and get a more detailed statement, which they refused to do. this is not the way you conduct an investigation in a homicide. >> joe oliver appears to be going out there, trying to explain what zimmerman actually said on tape. he said it's a difference between a c word with and a g word. how does that ring with you? and what does it mean to you? >> well, i can take mr. olive eers word with a grain of salt.

i don't believe anything he is saying. he is trying to credit mr. zimmerman and discredit mr. martin. >> in the sound byte we played earlier in this program, mr. olt liver said that he knows that word is a term of endearment. goon is a term of endearment in high schools. i thought the shooter was 28 years old. how would he know what george zimmerman was saying and what it would mean? how credible is joe oliver out there drawing conclusions? it really plays in to some kind of coordinated offensive that is being put out by zimmerman's camp to discredit the victim. >> yeah. that's all it is. in fact, i think this is just a rehearsal for mr. oliver in order to try to make mr. zimmerman look good in the light. at the same time, he's also making him look bad because there's nothing that mr. oliver can say in order to try to change that was on the 911 tapes

or the evidence that should have been collected by the police department that night. >> mr. clayton, give us the mood of the community there. a lot of intense media pressure, meetings, demonstrations, advocates speaking out. what's the mood of the community? and tonight's meeting? >> yeah, the mood is they are very unhappy at the moment. there's a lot of unrest in the community. of course we are trying to provide some type of way they can actually vent that frustration without taking it out on other folks in the community. this is our community. we have to live here. i understand that a lot of national figures are going to be coming in and revving the community up. once they are gone, we are the ones that have to put the flames out. the community is in an uproar at this moment but we are doing everything we can to try to contain that. >> turner clayton, junior. thank you for your time tonight. thank you for joining us on "the ed show." jeb bush signed stand your

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welcome back to the edshow. former governor jeb bush is finally breaking his silence on

the issue down in florida, the trayvon martin case. bush is defending the stand your ground law, a measure he supported in 2005 and signed with the lobbyist from the nra at his side. at an education forum in texas, bush told a group, applied properly i support the law. stand your ground gives florida residents the right to use deadly force and call it self defense. the law has allowed george zimmerman to walk the streets as a free man after shooting and killing an unarmed teenager. bush now says it is always good to review laws and doesn't believe zimmerman's defend will hold up. the law does not apply to this particular circumstance. stand your ground means, stand your ground. it doesn't mean chase after somebody who's turned their back. joining me tonight is dan gelber, former florida state senator and former federal prosecutor. good to have you with us

tonight. what do you -- how do you feel about this law now that we've seen all of this unfold? did this law have any connection to the result of february 26th in your opinion? >> well, no matter what governor bush says, at the end of the day mr. zimmerman's defense lawyer is already seeking its refuge. the initial investigators from sanford thought it applied, and there's no question that that law is going to make it more difficult to convict mr. zimmerman because it says -- and the jury will hear it in the jury instruction, it says that mr. zimmerman had absolutely no obligation to try to stay away from the situation and that he was free to use lethal force without ever having to walk away. and that's going to be something that you are going to hear from his defense attorney after mr. zimmerman gives his account or somebody does, as is already happening. >> well, does a former governor, any governor who signs a law of

this nature have blood on his or her hands in the wake of these kinds of tragedies? i know that is an open -ended question, but the final authority in a state is going to be the governor to determine whether a law is put in to law or out in not with a signature unless there is a veto override. what do you make of that? >> i think there is a lot of blame to go around. i understand why a lot of folks who were for this terrible idea are backing off of it right now. because the truth of the matter, and i said this to you the other day, there was no one in florida who needed this law. this was one of these things that they do, the nra and alec did nationally trying to get states to pass it. there was no one in florida who claimed they had been wrongfully charged, acquitted or convicted and needed this protection. this was done solely because the nra asked the legislature to do it and they have a lot of sway with the legislature. it's going to make it harder for mr. zimmerman to be charged, if

he is charged and convicted. >> that's a powerful statement that you just made. you reiterated what you told us the other night. i mean, it seems to me -- not pointing this at you, but the media. i think has a responsibility to go to these governors and these lawmakers who follow alec and the national rifle association like puppets on a string and ask them, why did you sign it? if there is no clamoring in the public for this. i think we have a real responsible to follow up on this. we are passing laws because some industry wants it to be passed? this in the meantime, they are contributing to the thought process of someone who has a firearm in the middle of a confrontation and also in this case i think you could make the case that zimmerman thought that he was doing what the law was going to allow him to do, to chase this kid down. >> this was really -- listen, about 20 of us -- i was in the state house at the time and 20

of us not only voted against it but said this is sort of crazy. the fella who was actually promoting the bill was the same legislator who promoted the shiavvo legislation, terry shiavvo legislationing and i made the point it devalues life. it says to people lethal force is your source. all of a sudden because of this outcry people are look agent it. had there not been this attention there's no question this case would have been declined and nobody, no special prosecutors would have been appointed. everybody would have gone along their way. it is only when people started to look at it and stop the trains and that all of a sudden people are trying to understand it and actually potentially revisit it. but even after this episode, i'm not sure you can count on the legislature or this governor, governor scott to do anything about it. >> 93 cases, 65 dead people

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the right wing negativity over president obama's health care reform law has brought it front and center of the supreme court today. the court began three days of oral arguments on the constitutionality of the affordable health care act. today's hearing was about whether the supreme court has the authority to rule on the law before it is completely enacted. both obama administration lawyers, and opposition agree. they want a ruling this year. tomorrow the real fight begins when lawyers will tackle the question of the individual mandate. i think there's an element of sadness surrounding all of these proceeding because they are taking away from the many positive components of the law, which of course you'll never hear from the right wing. pre-existing conditions, patients with pre-existing conditions will be able to get coverage. is that a good thing you think? 2.5 million more young people are covered because they can stay on their parents' insurance

plan. the law will close the doughnut hole in the medicare prescription care programs for seniors. that is big for them. no question. and the congressional budget office estimates the law will reduce the deficit by more than 1$100 billion over the next ten years, another good thing. the right-wing assault has negated all of the good from the law. rick santorum took the opportunity to do some political grandstanding today holding a press conference on the steps of the supreme court. >> the reason that i talk about obamacare and its impact on the economy and fundamental freedoms and mitt romney doesn't is because he can't. because he supported government-run health care as the governor of massachusetts. >> santorum used the hearing as a prop to try to get a few more votes. but it is much more serious than that. the affordable health care act will provide coverage for 30 million more americans. rick santorum has yet to show us

any plan to cover any more americans than what are covered right now. he wants to throw everybody on the free market. in fact, they just never talk about health care in the santorum camp. let's turn to johnathon cohn, the senior editor for the new republic, and author of sick and the people who pay the price. one of the chamber, few allowed in with the oral arguments. give us a sense of the intensity of this. >> as you said today was a warmup act. for a while there's been a group of people who say the supreme court shouldn't even rule on this case right now because of an obscure law from 1867. if there is one message that came through today, the justices of the supreme court get this. they are eager to rule on this. they made it very clear through their questioning, they don't think that law from 1867 should stop them from issuing a ruling

on this. they want to get to the core issue which is whether the government can run a program that guarantees everybody health insurance and i think we will get that tomorrow. >> the bomb line in all of this, is the supreme court going to turn around with the legislative branch of the government has done. we have a representative government. these people were sent to washington to do something about health care. the president was elected on a health are reform. that's what he wanted to dochl he gets it passed through reconciliation and the majority rules we move forward and now the supreme court is taking this up because there's 26 states that say they don't want to do it, probably because they don't like president obama. how intense is this going to get along those lines? >> i think it is important for people to realize, for the supreme court to step in and overturn a law that was the subject of so much work and that the congress voted for and the president signed, this could be an incredibly radical act. the supreme court just doesn't do that very often.

i think everybody understands that. i think tomorrow, when they are debating the individual mandate, which is really the core issue here, i think you are going to see some very heated arguments. you will hear pointed questions because i think everyone understands the stakes of what we are talking about here. potentially a decision like this, if they were to strike the down the mandate, not only would they overrule congress but they could be redrawing the lines of what the federal government can and can't do for generations to come. >> it would also redraw the lines of what the supreme court can do. i mean, it would seem to me. this is all about the the mandate, which of course is going to add 30 million more people when it comes to coverage. we're going to get better outcomes and it's going to reduce the expense of the country to the tune of $100 billion over the next ten years. you think those kinds of things will come in to play? common sense may rule with the supreme court? >> i hope so. if you strip away the legal arguments and you look at what is the question here, the mandate is really the lynch pin to the whole act.

what we are asking is whether the government can run a program that guarantees that everybody can get health insurance and allow people who want to have private insurance to keep that option. that's the stakes here. you would have to think that the court would at least be mindful of that. even conservatives who may not like president obama. maybe they don't like this plan. are they going to really take that bold step and just wipe away this whole plan? you have to wonder, are they going to take that step? i guess we'll find out. >> michele bachmann was there today. did you get her reaction at all? she was i think one of 60 people who got a ticket to get in. >> you know, i did see her in the chambers. there were a lot of lum theirs. i overheard a bit riof rick santorum on the steps. he said it would have an enormous impact on society. he is right about this. this is a cause that guarantees health care for all americans

that progressers have pursued for 100 years. we have the only dmunt the world who doesn't do that. we finally created a law to do that. i hope the justices of the supreme court understand how big of a deal this is and they think of that when they rule on the case. >> i was reading an article in forbes, not exactly a liberal magazine saying that romneycare, whatever you want to call it in massachusetts is very popular. maybe someone should have asked rick santorum about that today. good to have you with us. great work, thank you. . tim tebow made his jork jets debut today and tiger woods is back. i mean he's back. and the masters is just a couple of weeks away. stay tuned. a lot more coming up. ♪ [ male announcer ] want your weeds to hit the road? hit 'em, with roundup extended control. one application kills weeds, and stops new ones for up to four months. roundup extended control.

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congressman ryan's budget gives big cuts to the corporation and wealthy but he doesn't have a man to pay for it. he was grilled on how he would offset the tax cuts. he couldn't come up with an answer. >> ur saying lower the tax races. >> and broaden the base. >> they are used by the taxpayers. >> you don't say which ones. >> that's where the ways and means committee is supposed to do. that's not the job of the kmugt budget committee. there's a trillion dollars a year of loopholes built in to the tax system. so we are saying you don't have to get rid of all of them. >> can you give me a number. >> i can't because those decisions haven't been made. >> are you willing to say it would be revenue neutral. >> it is. >> but also distributionally neutral which means the wealthy aren't going to benefit and the middle class -- >> there's no way to know the answer to that question. >> has he ever run a business or have executive experience? has he ever fired or hired or

run budgets in the private sector? i'm just asking the question. a total lack of specifics don't you think? didn't stop mitt romney from endorsing his budget are proposal. the white house started to refer to the plan as the romney-ryan budget. i'm joined tonight by robert reich, former labor secretary under president clinton and professor at uc berkeley and the author of the book aftershock. does paul ryan have any clue what he is talking about when it comes to running the numbers on the budget? >> i think he has a clue. i think he is purposely trying to hide where all of the big tax giveaways if the rich are going to come from. he also say unless the budget, at least, that a lot of the savings are going to come from medicare. heed going to cut medicare reimbursements for the elderly and going to take a big, big swipe out of what's called discretionary spending. that includes food stamps, pell grants, education funding, all kinds of things that go to

lower, middle class and poor families. this is reverse robin hood. social darwinism. >> ryan's budget cuts spending on programs ranging from food stamps to border control. i mean gutting all of these programs, what do you think this would do to the economy, to the base? to the flow of goods and services and the transfer of the money. what do you think? >> ed, we already seen what happens to the economy when the lower, middle class doesn't have enough money to keep the economy going. apart from the questions of gross unfairness, i mean the ryan budget will make the economy much worse. it will slower economic growth. a lot of studies have shown if we make huge tax cuts for the the rich and cut all of the benefits going to the middle class and poor you will not only create distributional havoc in this country but you will really take money out of the pockets of people that do most of the spending. >> anyone who has been in business knows the fastest way

to affect the bottom line is to cut payroll. that's theoretically is what ryan is doing with this budget. going after medicare and medicaid, going after programs he can nail right away and give tax breaks to the corporations and the wealthiest americans. it is that vulture chart. i talk about. this will steroid the top line and for the blue liners they will be suffering again and mitt romney supports ryan's budget. ryan said he would consider a vp run. what would a romney-ryan ticket mean for america? >> the good news from the standpoint of progressives, ed, is it would be very clear and make clear what they stood for. i mean paul ryan, say what you want, he's been honest about what he wants. i mean he's fudged a lot of numbers but been clear. this is a big, big boom to the held wealthy, the average millionaire or above will get at least $150,000 of tax cuts a year and those cuts will be coming out of the hide of

middle, lower middle class and poor people. this is the blueprint, it is the ryan blueprint, the house republican blueprint and now apparently it is mitt romney's blueprint and mitt romney, let us not forget, earned $21 million last year and paid taxes at a rate of 14.9%. you talk about reverse robin hood? that's where you find it. >> how can this not be a political winner for the democrats? how can you not easily make the case for the 99% with these kind of jokers coming up with plans like this? >> well, it will be -- it will be if the democrats use it. the democrats have taken defeat out of the jaws of victory before by not focusing on what the republicans clearly want to do, what they are doing, what they have tried to do and who they are for. i think drts ought to run with this. it's clear. if the public looks at the ryan plan, claerly, if the news media convey what the ryan plan is, if