tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC March 27, 2012 10:00am-11:00am PDT
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i'm andrea mitchell, live from havana. today the supreme court completed its hearings. today's arguments on health insurance, the mandate. it's risky as always to predict what the court will do, it sounds like from today's arguments the health care reform could be in serious trouble. chris cillizza managing editor of "the washington post," thewashingtonpost.com and pete williams. pete you've just come from the courthouse. what did you hear what the key vote justice kennedy might be thinking in the questions he's asking? >> reporter: i think you put it exactly right, because i certainly don't want to predict what the court is going to do here because very often the justices ask questions to try to satisfy themselves about certain things and that doesn't necessarily indicate how they're going to vote. i think you do have to say, you have to write off justice scalia write way. many thought he might be willing to uphold this because in the
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past he's voted to you hold commerce clause powers and conservative appeals court judges have found a way to uphold it. he seemed to subscribe to some of that. in terms of justice kennedy, most questions were amolong mee lines, isn't this unprecedented? has congress required all americans to buy something like this before? doesn't the government have a heavy burden here to show why it's constitutional? there were no indications during two hours of argument that he heard an answer that satisfied him on that point. what the larger court was looking at here, what the government says, is both side as degree that the government, congress, could require everyone to buy insurance when they go to the emergency room or doctor's office, in other words, at the point of treatment. what the government says is all it's doing is shifting time. buy it in advance. what the opponents of the health care law are saying is when you
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do that you're requiring everybody to buy insurance, not just people who planned to go to the doctor's office or unplanned go to the emergency room, you're covering a larger base of people that way. of course they say you have to do that in order to financially make this work. but they say it's unconstitutional. i think, andrea, it seeps to me that if it continues this way that there probably are not five votes to uphold it. probably five votes to strike it down. but again that's the way it seems right now, 1:00, an hour after the argument and that doesn't count. it's what happens when they sit down to write the opinion that counts and we won't know the answer until late june. >> of course, they could be persuasive. that's why when we consider supreme court nominees people always talk about who has the most important personality and argument and legal tools to persuade their colleagues especially in a divided court. pete we want to play the
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argument, what you've pointed out was a key moment in the argument. >> today you're arguing that the penalty is not a tax. tomorrow you are going to be back and you'll be arguing that the penalty is a tax. has the court ever held that something that is a tax for purposes of the taxing power under the constitution is not a tax under the anti-injunction act? >> no, justice alito but the court has held in the licensed tax cases that something can be a constitutional exercise of the taxing power whether or not it is called a tax. >> that was of course the justice alito yesterday, pete and that's what was setting up this key argument today over the mandate. >> reporter: yes, and what's interesting about that, andrea, that the tax power didn't come up today. that there was a little discussion of it, but most of the talk today was about the core central point here which
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is, does congress have the power underthe commerce clause, and that's -- is the constitution saying congress has the power, quote to regulate xlers? what the opponents of the law say is that's one thing to regulate people already in the insurance market, but what congress is doing is something different, it's reaching and enforcing people to get into the market to regulate them. the government's answer is, no, we're regulating the entire health care system not just the insurance market. and i just think that for the majority of the court, for the fibe more conservative members, including justice kennedy, i'm not sure that carried the day. >> and chris cillizza, while all of this has been happening, and the possibility of his landmark health reform is actually going to be in jeopardy if this argument does play out and it's a long way between here and a decision, the president has been in south korea. he responded overnight to that open mike incident yesterday,
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trying to laugh it off. >> first of all, are the mikes on? the only way i get this stuff done is if i'm consulting with the pentagon, if i'm consulting with congress, and i've got bipartisan support, and frankly, the current environment is not conducive to those kinds of thoughtful consultations. i think the stories you guys have been writing observe last 24 hours is pretty good evidence of that. i think we'll do better in 2013. >> chris, mitt romney and the or candidates, other republicans immediately bounced though romney had his own problems. let's watch what he had to say about that. >> if he's planning on doing more and suggests to russia he is willing to do with them he's not willing to tell the american people to russia, this is without question our number one geopolitical foe, they fight every cause for the world's worst actors. >> i mean, even john boehner,
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initially, defended the president saying you don't criticize the president even the republican leader of the house saying, and the speaker of the house, john boehner said you don't criticize the president overseas. but the bottom line is, mitt romney, chris, said that russia is our greatest foe. some would suggest that that is a little outdated. >> well, you know, look, andrea, it's two-fold here. this is this unspoken, unstated policy that you don't criticize the president of the united states when he's on foreign soil. now i think, to be frank, mitt romney and his team saw this open mike episode as sort of too good to let pass up politically because it made president obama look political. he's a politician, of course he's political. and what he's saying frankly is the truth. nothing major happens in an election year from a legislative perspective. it just doesn't. everyone is waiting until
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november to see what the american public says. that's that piece of. on the russia end, i was watching that interview live, romney went back and tried to argue that russia, its a relationship with china, iran, they were a catalyst but certainly when he initially said it, even i, admitted relative amateur in geo -- world geopolitics raise mid my eyebro. it felt like the mid 19 0s. we've seen this pattern with mitt romney, two steps forward, one step back. rarlles rardless it's not a pert cam pin. no campaign is. he occasionally steps in. this may be a small example as he sought to take advantage of what they believed was a big opportunity for them. >> chris cillizza, our thanks to
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pete williams, of course. as we sit here in havana, the pope has landed at airport in havana. we can i think see live pictures of him coming down the steps. he has arrived at the airport in havana. he is going to be greeted by raul castro, of course, the president and has been the president since 2008, when he replaced his brother. joined by mark potter here. you've been covering cuba for so many years. big difference this time, as we continue to see the pope arriving here, is that a large delegation, hundreds of cuban-americans from miami, and you covered that part of the country, they have arrived with the archbishop who is coming here with them. that's a big difference than 14 years ago because relations between miami and havana have warmed somewhat. >> you remember in 1998 when they tried to come here on a cruise ship, there was a big outrage in miami. that cruise ship never got here. they were going to bring 1,000
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people a lot of the cuban exiles and miami protested, and they had to stop the plan. this time, they announced they were going to come to miami. there were a fur people arga fe arguing about it. there wasn't a sense of outrage. 300 people coming here with the church and another 500 coming on their own. they wanted to come with the church, they didn't have room. more are coming. all coming here in what they are calling a pilgrimage of reconciliation. it's not between governments. it's between people. in an interesting way they're using the pope's visit as a cover for coming here. they can say we're coming here to see the pope. we're going to meet the people while we're here too. that gives them cover on the political argument. i've talked to people who were there last night they were crying when they got cuban family has a story of someone else who made them angry. it's time to get over it. in this historic cathedral, 4:00
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cuban time he's going to celebrate the mass, the miami archbishop here in havana. >> it's amazing to those of white house have covered cuba for so many years. and the low point in recent years not only '90s, brothers to the rescue mission to miami, provocative mission, many would say but the fatal shootdown by the cuban migs which pros relations and prompted congress to put into law the helms-burton act which took the embargo out of the hands of a president of the united states to ease it by executive action and made it a law that has not been able to be changes for all of the political reasons that we know so well. and here now, what we're seeing, after the elian crisis in '99 and 2000, seeing for the first time hundreds at one point of cuban-americans coming from the
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united states. >> he very firmly argued against coming to cuba. any contact with the communist government, with the island itself. but in 1998, when pope john paul ii came here a tumultuous welcome, he saw that. he said that's what did it for him. he realized that the people, the people contact, could be a lot more effective and just a better way to go than to seal everything off the embargo. he's on that trip. he and his wife olga have packed suitcases of goods that they're bringing to the cuban people. they've been doing that for a while. this isn't their first time back. they're complete converts. there are more people doing that. that's not to say everybody in miami is in agreement. some coming here had to argue with their families and neighbors. >> i interviewed a student the other day studying here, his grandmother was afraid for him to go and he got a lot of heat from miami here a cuban-american young man and thinks there is generational change. back in 2003, when fidel castro,
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after a series of interviews over the years, took me around the island, took me to what had been the military installation, the satellite interception facility, which had been transformed into a university, a technical school, and showed me the clinics, showed me the grain arriving from kansas at the port, and that was the high point of relations. but then it was of course rolled back. but i must say, the other change, of course, is that fidel castro became ill in 2006, transfer of power eventually to his younger brother, but it's still the generation, the revolution generation in their 80s. raul has been putting in place, slowly, economic reforms. >> right. there have been changes in the u.s. government too. one of the things that strikes me most, having not been here for a year, all of the accents i'm hearing in the hotels, not
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german, they're not from england, they're not from russia -- >> tourists we used to see, spanish, canadiens. >> there are american accents. a lot people are americans, under an opening on the u.s. side, are flooding this area with tour buses. we used to be down here very lonely looking for american company about. we couldn't find it here. now they're everywhere. buss and buses. >> but now it is resuming. >> it's exploding. it's amazing. >> very happy to see it. i'm happy to see you. mark potter, my pal. we'll be here covering all of the rest of the trip as well. miami archbishop will be joining me next here in havana. plus, he's going to be 101 next month. he is the oldest living retired major league ballplayer. pitched to joe dimaggio and mickey mantle and lives here in havana.
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almost 800 miami pilgrims are near cuba for the pope's historic visit. many came as part of a reconciliation dell gaeegation y archbishop thomas wenski. thank you for being with us. you're leading the mass in the cathedral behind us. the significance of this compared to what happened 14 years ago, the last papal visit, of course. >> 14 years ago, a smaller group came from miami. at that time i had originally tried to organize a cruise ship
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to make it easier to bring a larger group of people from miami, but there was a lot of opposition, and the miami community and my predecessor at that time decided to cancel the cruise ship. however, many people, when they watched the papal pass 14 years ago, from their homes in miami, realized that they really wanted to be here in havana. and they had made a mistake in opposing that cruise. and this year, of course, the papal trip announcement came too late to organize the cruise but we did have a good response of people that have come here. i brought two planes yesterday to santiago and there are people arriving here directly from miami to havana from sunday till tomorrow to be able to participate in the papal mass. >> what changes have you seen in the way the church is regarded here in the last 14 years and what more do you want to see?
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i though there isn't access for live television broadcasts of services and things of that nature. >> well, yesterday the pope's mass was broadcast live which was a great thing. of course, the relationships between, you know, the state and the church here have improved immensely since john paul ii's trip 14 years ago. as many cubans here in the church say, relations are much better than what they used to be. probably not as good as they should be and we hope that, you know, the relationships continue to improve and that the church here in cuba continue to gain space in order to fulfill her mission here in cuba, which is to be a leaven here in society of gospel values and the church near cuba, out of its own poverty, wants to accompany the cuban people and are doing so in
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an admirable way pap that also explains why there's a change of heart among people in miami they are much more aware of what the church here in cuba is doing. >> holy father on his plane coming from rome spoke to reporters and said that markism has lost its reality, legitimacy and that was certainly taken as an explicit criticism. >> well, i think -- >> of of the regime. >> that created a big fur among the press corps on the pope's plane. as the archbishop of santiago asked about the pope's remarks, with those words the pope didn't say anything that nobody doesn't already know here in cuba. and i think, you know, the ideological materialism is a spent force here in cuba and the
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rest of the world and pope is telling them in transtoition to something different should not be a transition to practical materialism because as he said in his homily when the world organize itself against god it organizes itself against a human person. >> there are reports that some of the people have been told to show up by the communist party and conversely dom dissidents have not been permitted to participate. is what the church's position on the way dissidents are treated sneer there have been some suggestion certainly that the pope has not been outspoken enough? >> it's clear that, you know, when the lady in white -- >> the dissidents who go every sunday to church. >> every sunday to church. when they were being harassed leaving the church, the cardinal himself intervened until the government should stop and it did stop. a few weeks ago, similar
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incidents happened both in santiago and nogine and the bishops came out to dismiss the crowds, government-sponsored crowds that have come to harass the dissidents that had been in church. i think, you know, the church is trying to be a voice of reason and a voice of prudence here in cuban society as the bush shol said to the angry mob that threatened the group of dissidents outside of his cathedral these people inside are as cuban as you are. and i think the cuban hierarchy here is trying to emphasize, as the bishop did in his address yesterday to the holy father before the mass, that cubans here in cuba and wherever they are have to be able to -- be
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able to abide different opinions and diversity can be still a unity in that diversity can still be forged. >> archbishop wenski, great pleasure to have you here. we look forward to your mass and homily here today. >> thank you very much. god bless you. >> thank you. now meet our player of the week. he is connie muraro a kcubain wo pitched for the senators. the oldest living major league baseball player. next month he will turn 101. he's now blind but certainly not lost his grip. we visited him. he talked about pitching to some of the baseball greats.
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>> and what he said there, for those who can't read, was i struck out dimaggio without him even swinging, threw a sliding down the middle of the home plate and he didn't swing and the umpire struck him out. i struck ted williams out with a slow pitch whop was t was the g of them all? >> of course he said that the greatest of them all was the babe. even though the players union has now approved connie's pension $10,000 a year he can get that money because of the u.s. trade embargo against cuba. up next -- the cost of war. msnbc's rachel maddow here to talk about her new book, the
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rachel maddow host of "rachel maddow" show and new author, here to talk about "drift." so exciting. congratulations. first time you write a book, that's got to be a such a thrill. "drift" really breaks a lot of new ground. bringing together a whole stream of issues that we've been talking about, talking about disparate ways but not one text. also a text that of course has rachel's signature wit, sarcasm and irony, as well as brilliance. among the people endorsing this book on the cover, vie to read this because rachel, it's astounding, roger ailes chairman and ceo of fox news, "drift" never makes the case war is necessary. rachel maddow makes valid arguments our country has been
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drifting. people like rachel will love the book. aggressive debate is good for america. drift is a book worth reading says roger ailes. what better endorsement could you have from both sides? i was struck by a number of things. >> something beautiful about you reading the roger ailes quote for my book while you sit in cuba. i think -- >> havana. >> we've wrapped the ideological number line around on itself so it's a circle instead of a line. you have bent time. >> i was going to say we triangulated but you're right, it is a circle. when we talk about this, i was struck by one of the first military engagements that i was involved in as a white house correspondent was grenada. you have really dug into the crazy disconnect between what policymakers new at the white house and what was happening on the ground with those students. we sent troops, we sent the marines in, explain. >> grenada, i think is useful as
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a story because what was going on on the ground was really different than what was -- what the white house knew was going on. there was a huge distance between both of those things and what congress knew. essentially we, i think have made a series of decisions over the last 30 or 40 years to make war less of a hassle. when presidents thought there was a national security at stake or wanted to wage war, they figured out a way to go around congress, if they needed to, they figured out a way to not have to make the case to the american people if they wanted to, figured out a way to not unsettle us by the cost and the people deployed. we've come up with work-arounds for how to wage a war without bugging the civilian population too much. now we can wage war in ways that allied public opinion a grappling with the costs. in grenada the reagan administration's secrecy about it, they didn't ask they told congress once it was under way.
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they flat-out lied to the press it wasn't go when asked pointblank about. . situation on the ground was a worrying situation about what was happening in grenadgrenada. the medical students were brought home at the end of the operation but we didn't flow where they were on the island before we sent in a large number of american troops purportedly to rescue them. >> the last great war debate i was a senate correspondent in the '90s covering the first gulf war and in desert storm, you know, we covered debate, sam nunn head of the armed services committee, and they were pros and cons on both sides and for an entire weekend there was nonstop debate. that did not happen on the second iraq invasion. it certainly didn't happen with afghanistan. joe biden and dick lugar on the
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foreign relations committee, tried to have an iraq war debate in fall of 2002, some of us paid a lot of attention but it didn't engage the country. what we've now seen is we've got thousands of contractors, it isn't only the american service members, troops whom you know so well and we've talked about repeated deployments but we have thousands of contractors answerable to no one. there's no congressional oversight overrules of engagement or their spending and that's how we see abuses such as the country -- the company that got involved in so much trouble in iraq, which keeps renaming it self- >> the black water debacle is the modern way we think about contractors. the shift to using contract to do stuff the military used to do itself is a recent shift and i dean think it was made as some sort of conspiracy theory. i don't think it was made in a
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particularly ideological way, supported by the -- under the defense secretary ship of dick cheney, also greatly expanded by the clinton administration. and it became a way so that we could really bolster the number of people deployed without really knowing what the cost was going to be of paying them, without knowing who the lines of authority and accountabilty were for what they did especially when they did something wrong. it means when they get hurt or when they get killed in an american war, we don't even necessarily have the opportunity to know when they were. we don't think of them as casualties in the same way we feel the brunt of american military casualties. it's provided a layer of insulation between us and what the military does in our name, that i think has been unsettling. it's not just their bad behavior. it's that it helps us do things as a country that we don't necessarily have control over or even a great understanding over. >> in fact, it does cost taxpayers money because that's why we built that enormous
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embassy in baghdad, the largest embassy in the world for the united states, at huge costs, unknown costs to the united states because they're all houses there and based there as well. rachel maddow, a treat for me. thank you for being with us. and the book is "drift." get it. buy it. buy it for your friends. buy it for mother's day. buy it for father's day. this is the sell. i believe in this. >> thank you so much. i can believe you took it with you to cuba. your shows are amazing. >> it's in my bag. >> thanks for that. when we come back at health care debate continues throughout america, we'll be talking to health care expert, an american, here in havana and continues to do work between the two countries. [ male announcer ] what can you do with plain white rice?
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>> cuba is highly regarded for its health care and especially once fidel castros significant project, which is training doctors, doctors who then provide free medical care throughout latin america. during one of my many past visits castro took me on a tour to the medical school to meet the first class of young doctors in training. now a decade later the school has graduated almost 10,000 doctors. last year's class included 19 americans among students from 22 countries. as the u.s. debates health care we thought it would be good to take a look at the school. back to the latin american medical student to talk to american medical students about what they're learning about medicine, cuba and about themselves. >> the idea is that we come from underrepresented and underserved communities and that after graduating with no debt, no worries about paying off loans
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and having to get a high-paying job we can return to our communities and work in them and try to uplift them the way say that cuba uplifted us. >> i wanted to go into a program that would permit me or train me to become the type of doctor that i wanted to be versus having -- when you enter medical school they tell you we hope you can hold on to your ideals. here they teach you ideals from day one in hopes you will be a physician who will go into you're community and be a leader as well as change agent for improving your community. >> the integrated approach to our education, nothing's compartmentalizes and you see things come back again. we've touched on numerous time wh when you ask the development of the brain and the spinal cord you're able to go deep because you've seen it again and again, because it comes up, it's int interdisciplinary. >> i've always wanted to come to this country being from america, being american, it's taboo.
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it's something we're not familiar with. i've always wanted to come here and then what intrigue immediate was the fact that cuba produces excellent doctors. this curriculum is in span swish i've always wanted to learn spanish and i'm doing all 0 of that. >> it makes you a wl-rounds doctor overall because the whole reason why we are here is because we want to go back to you know our country and we want to serve in the underserved areas of our state. and i think that it makes us more empathetic towards our patients, you know, knowing that they don't come from the best backgrounds, they don't have everything accessible to them like we usually have in the states. i think that overall it makes such amazing doctors coming from so little and building up to more. >> so for us, it's a matter of being cross cultural which of course in the united states there are tons of communities that are cross cultural that have within a couple of blocks
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radius people from various different countries. i think that alone makes us -- makes us able to go back to the u.s. with a different idea, different paradigm. within my own room alone we have people from three different countries and three different continents and that makes for interesting perspectives on health care, on history, on life in general. >> primary care's really hurting these days in the states, as you know. most of us came in with the idea of going into primary care. some of us have got other specialties within that. average age 55 of primary physicians. to bring the average back a little bit we are -- i'm hoping to go into primary care. >> one of the best skills i will have taken out of this program is how to think critically as a doctor, how to think -- i hate to use the phrase -- but how to think outside the box in the sense of learning, mastering
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your career, mastering the skills in a way where you're not memorizing anything. you understand, you use your knowledge, apply it, and honestly here straight memorization, it doesn't get you much. and it doesn't get you much of anywhere. the other skill that i think i'll take out of here is clinical skills. they really emphasize that here and we start i guess clinical runs since the beginning of our career. i think that by the time i get out of here i'll be well developed. >> and joining me now is gail reid international director of a nonprofit based in atlanta, medical el indication cooperation with cuba. working to bridge cuban and american medical treatments. thanks so much, gail. great to have you here. >> thank you. >> we're seeing this debate in our country about universal health care, the mandate, the supreme court arguments today. we have universal coverage here. it's a different society and an
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economic model that would not work in the united states. what do you see as the advantages of the cuban system, the low infant mortality rate, for instance, which is legendary around the world but also the gaps you're trying to fill? >> i was struck by one what one of the medical students say having so little and building up to more because obviously what they've done in health care here wasn't built in a day. it was built over the last 50 years. it was built with a public policy of emphasizing health care for all. soed you do have universal health care, free. it is also a system that emphasizes very much prevention built on primary care clinics, doctors and nurses, sort of dotting the country, and they have worked very hard in that area, which i think has economic implications when you're trying to do lhealth on a shoestring,
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prevention's very important. you avoid big ticket items in the first round. it's back to basics. it really is. the doctor and nurse are in the community. they make house calls. there's no middle man. >> house calls? >> i remember in the '50s when i was a kid we used to get house calls from our pediatricians. they still make house calls in cuba. and so it's something that is built over time and has given them outcomes very comparable to those in the states, in canada, as you mentioned, low infant mortality. women in cuba are living over to 80 years old now, a bit more than men, at 7 6. prevention is the name of the game in terms of vaccines, health education and it's not without its problems. >> it's not without its problems. there are other problems here. we shouldn't underemphasize the
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imback of the embargo pap what do you do in terms of bringing in doctors who train here, do they teach? do you also deal with vaccines and other supplies although cuba has a very -- castro once showed meer tos, there was an erroneous claim, biomedical weaponry and showed they were basically making antibiotics. >> you got into the intersanctum to see what was going on. >> there are shortages. >> there are shortages and i would say there's a few different kinds of problems. one kind of problem is very similar to we face in the states chronic diseases the kind of diseases, heart disease, hypertension, cancer, the obesity that causes it. and then there's infrastructure problems that come from years of economic problems in the '90s, some of the hospitals need repair. the salaries are not what they should be. and of course, you know, i would
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say you do have to take your own bedsheets in some of the hospitals though you can get a heart transplate for free. they weigh these things. right now, the emphasis is trying to make this healthsusta >> and work the way it has been envisioned. great insight. good to see you. we'll be right back with a special edition of "andrea mitchell reports" live from havana. [ artis brown ] america is facing some tough challenges right now. two of the most important are energy security and economic growth. north america actually has one of the largest oil reserves in the world. a large part of that is oil sands.
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morning. some of the most passionate voices on both sides of the debate will join the "news nation," including an attorney who filed a brief defending the law. and trayvon martin's parents will be on capitol hill. they're holding a forum on racial profiling, hate crimes, as well as a look at the stand your ground law that's playing such a big part of the investigation. >> we'll be back in a moment with more on trayvon martin and we'll talk about the top political story and what will be headlines in the next 24. ok! who gets occasional constipation,
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we're back live in havana. what political story will be headlines in the next 24? chris cillizza rejoins us. chris, clearly, trayvon martin is one of the big headlines for tomorrow. especially because within an hour or so, his parents will be on capitol hill. house democrats have organized a symposium or a hearing. they are not in leadership and
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cannot have a formal hearing but a hearing or a conversation, i should say, on hate crimes. >> and you know, this story really came to washington last week, late last week when president obama made remarks about trayvon martin that were widely publicized. the story continues on and it will again come to washington. not for the last time. as you mentioned within the hour, when trayvon martin' parents arrive here on the nation' capitol and attend this symposium or hearing. this is not an issue that is going away. this is an issue that will stay on the top of national headlines. and i think both parties have to be wary of it. these are the sorts of things that can have national, an effect on the national conversation in ways we might not think about. >> exactly. we remember rodney king and some of the other past debates. and very briefly, we're going to hit more audio tame later today from today's arguments and we'll be able to assess for ourselves
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the arguments from both sides and the way the justices responded. chris cillizza, thank you very much, my friend. see you tomorrow, i hope. that wraps it for us for this special edition of andrea mitchell reports. tomorrow we have some special guests. we'll be back live from havana. and of course the big mass here will be taking place as well as we have senator patrick leahy. the last u.s. senator to visit with fidel castro in recent weeks. and marco rubio, the senator from florida, who is very strongly, he is cuban american and strongly anti-the castro regime. that does it for us. tamron hall, my colleague is here with what's next on "news nation." >> hi there. in our next hour, we're following two big breaking stories. the first audio is coming out from today's supreme court arguments on the president's health care law. could there be signs the court will find the law unconstitutional. i'll talk with an attorney who
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