forward. >> thank you so much, martin. we begin our show with a reiteration of everything martin was just describing to you. the death of dick clark. died from a massive heart attack. was also suffering type two diabetes. a stroke in '04 ended his reign of hosting new year's eve rockin eve special. he came back with ryan seacrest. he will surely be missed, survived by his wife and three children. we, of course, extend our condolences to his family. our program begins right now. good afternoon to you. i am dill lan rat began. and the big story today, not again. the u.s. releasing photos taken two years ago showing both u.s. and afghan troops posing with dead insurgens.

but the soldier who gave the l.a. times the images says he did it to draw attention to the security risks that are endangering his fellow troops as he sees it. some of the images were beyond the graphic tolerance for the editors at the "times." we here at the show cropped it even further to reduce the degree to which it is offensive but what you are seeing is afghan police and u.s. soldiers holding feet and legs of an insurgeant that are not attached to his body. according to the "times," the unnamed soldiers says the photos demonstrated break down in leadership and discipline that he says compromises the safety of our troops. he was part of the 82nd airborne which lost three dozen soldiers, six in suicide attacks on their own base. the platoon was later tasked with collecting the remains of the suspected insurgeant in those suicide attacks and that is when these photos were reportedly taken.

apparently the u.s. military and afghan government have known about them for some time. washington politicses of course concerned about the embarrass many of such things, they also believe that these photos could insight further violence in afghanistan. >> this is war. an and i know that war is ugly and violent. and i know that young people sometimes caught up in the moment make some very foolish decisions. i'm not excusing that. i'm not excusing that behavior. but neither do i want these images to bring further injury to our people or to our relationship with the afghan people. we're also very disappointed that, or at least i will echo what the defense department said about the decision made to publish these photographs two years after the incident but that's another story.

>> afghan war veteran anthony shaver. and john schultz joins us. iraq war veteran. chairman of vets.org. there is a certain degree of analysis to be around this image, tony, john. the question that continues to recur to me every time i'm forced to confront this, which i think is healthy for us to con trunt this, honestly, is what is the mission of the soldiers on the ground in that country that keeps them in that country for this summer's fighting season, when we know that the withdraw is scheduled for next year. why are we fighting this summer in this context? do we know what the mission is? the question goes to both of you, tony. >> well, we're there, theoretically because of the counter insurgens strategy in iraq, well enough, but it is not working here. it is not going to work. we have talked about this for

years. >> the strategy as being executed as planned will not work, it is failing. first, the network, intelligence service of pakistan was behind the attack on sunday. next, the fact that intelligence system we set up throughout afghanistan failed, this is a nationwide attack. and the last thing was, someone had to help the taliban get into the green zone, secure areas. so the soldiers there are target. that's all they are. so the reality of what we say they are doing and what they actually are doing is vastly different and we are not winning this the way we are doing it. >> if you are a soldier and a target, john, that's not an unfamiliar posture in war. particularly when have you a focus and mission that you could look beyond the liability of your status as target to achieve very defined goals that you have been trained to pursue. we know that our soldiers are target in afghanistan. it is unclear to me that anybody

can tell those soldiers what their mission is beyond self preservation. >> well, i think maybe we understand the mission but the public doesn't. not that i support this counter insurgency strategy, i never have. very clear about that. and i certainly am not -- i don't think the summer offensive will add up to anything at all. you know, have you president karzai is basically saying he doesn't want u.s. forces in the villages which is to seize terrain to bring in afghan forces to control it. i like the idea of going after terrorist where they are and trimming down the u.s. footprint or going to advise training mission like we had in iraq but what is happening in afghanistan, there's three or four attacks in kabul this year. they had a afghan soldier with a silencer shoot u.s. soldiers in the back of the head. there are certain strong holds in the country and south and to the east. this is the last clans with the time line that we have and limited forces to really good into the hardest hit areas that

taliban and network controls. so i think if i wanted to short this situation in afghanistan, there will be a tremendous amount of violence in summer. we've had troops this before, but we pulled out. the difference this time is to try to put afghan forces and have them hold terrain. not because we think we can defeat the taliban but because the people in the administration want an afghan a army that has leverage over the taliban as we depart. whether or not we agree with that or anything is different in two years versus now, i don't think it will, but that's the plan. >> that is what will actually occur this summer. tony, how do the disclosure of these sorts of images provoke people to wake up and ask more questiones about why we are staying an extra summer. and how much more difficult does it make those who are most at risk in countries, how much more difficult do the jobs of our

soldiers become? >> i don't agre with secretary panetta. i don't think it makes it more or less risky in the public domain. they are out there already in other forms. what makes it tough, frankly, is the whole idea we will be there north year with no help of victory. this is something everybody continues to overlook. look, i understand the idea of trying to get the afghan forces out and goabout. that is not going to help us. we need to worry about which is pakistan. they have nuclear weapons and the network and whole taliban apparatus is supported by the fact that they have safe haven fles pakistan. so this is the brutal truth. so unless we deal with that, by resolution of diplomacy of bringing the taliban back into the political process or doing something with pakistanis to limited ability of the taliban to come into afghanistan, the central afghan government will fail. as soon as we leave, the things we have done to create progress, which we have, will fade away,

will fail. this is where we need to be much more realistic about what happens in 2013 and 2014, which we're not. >> so it defers on to you, do you broadly agree with tony's risk assessment? >> yeah. i think pakistan is the issue. i think the president missed a huge opportunity. obviously i was in iraq last year but when ways there, look, we sent in a very risky mission. a mission that i think a lot of military officers would have reservations doing when the president sent in navy seals to kill bin laden. 150 miles inside pakistan. no counter insurgency has been successful when they have a safe haven like they have in pakistan. that is the core issue. look as military officers, and prior military officers, we can explain what we are doing. how does that lead us to the national strategic objective we are trying to get to here. a democracy elected in afghanistan. i'm not sure with the strategy we are doing may create leverage for karzai, but he is not a

partner. if he is not a partner, it can be successful. >> if you were to look in with a certain degree of both, runllessness and compassion tony, jon, you would point to the poorest nature of the pakistani relationship and unmanaged liability of the safe haven aspects in pakistan, which were to you point that out as you both have today, that's an new thing for either of you. it is not a new thing for the conversation. it is, however, something that remains unresolved. and how are we to look at this, tony, in other words are we foolish as americans tax payers who have been sort of bought into this national he is chiropractority policy, to think that our assets are actually being used to appropriately and with integrity resolve 24 issue as it pertains to pakistan? >> it is not being used with integrity, no. this is like a football team with great talent and coach that

sucks. we have people in leadership positionsing the play book as pointed out by jon, that's not going to work. you haven't dealt with a safe haven issue in pakistan. my book talks about that. we knew this a decade ago, d dylan. this will ensure national security for america. it needs to focus on real issues which is antiterrorism, pakistan, all al qaeda left is in pakistan, not afghanistan, and deal with issues realistically. we have to find a resolution and slug it out and the resistance with the taliban is not helping americans secure the region. >> how much, jon, and this is a subjective question at this point, but how much of our failure to engage pakistan on whatever leveles could have been or may be, is a function of the fact that we aren't really sure how to do it? >> well, i actually think we've had success here. i think the president's thrown a lot of stuff at the wall here. i think the counter insurgency

failed. i think you will find 500 to a thousand americans may die this summer, more wounded trying to get back into the south and east and kandahar. we saw the australians pull out today. they have land terrain that u.s. will have to use. how does that make the united states safer other than spending trillions of dollars. we saw it with the raid on bin landen's compound. he was terrified of the drone wars going on inside pakistan. so we've had some success at going after terrorist networks. now, you know, i think that's the key point in military doctrine. we want to know what is achievable and what can be successful. we have to focus on the people who want it attack this country. this administration had success with drones in pakistan. taking out bin laden. i think it is more difficult with what the troops will do. i don't know if we will ever have real engagement in pakistan. but we need to strike them. it is counter insurgency in afghanistan that's the failing part of the plane.

>> tony, you were saying something quickly? >> i no, i understand pl slugging it out with the taliban is not in our interest. pakistan is, we need to focus on that. >> thank you. we always enjoy learning from you and sharing your analysis and views in public. thank, gentlemen. coming up on the dr show. in 2004 -- or excuse me, 2012's presidential race. is it just me or are we getting a little deja vu here on the old lesser of two evils thing. plus, the truth of beneath the surface nearly two years after the gulf oil spill pl a husband and wife film making team giving all of us a rather disturbing look at what has, and more importantly, has not changed when it comes to off-shore drilling. but next, the mega panel. first your employers asking for your facebook pass word. now the police checking your cell phone records. feel safe?

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we're back with the 2012 presidential auction. dualing policies, dualing ads, dualing polls, dualing networks. check out the latest cbs news new york times poll showing the president and mitt romney in a dead heat then look at cnn poll. president obama crushes mitt romney. today, however, it was about dualing economic speeches. take a gander. >> should we settle for an

economy where few people do really well and then a growing number are struggling to get by. >> he said if we let him borrow $787 billion, he would hold unemployment bow low 8%. and it has not been below 8% since. even if you like barack obama we can't afford barack obama. >> so, as each candidate tries to convince us how much worse it would be with the other guy in office while they ignore our corrupt financial markets, corrupt tax code, corrupt trade policy, grossly misaligned and corrupted healthcare system, neither one wants to talk about that. they just want to talk about how the other guy's a yeehaw. starting to give me flashbacks to 2004. i don't know about you. president obama playing the role of the marginally popular incumbent, george w. bush and mitt romney playing the role of the very difficult to like in

any circumstance challenger, john kerry. let us find out what the mega panel thinks of that comparison. fb the poll that's most interesting, jonathan, is the fact that unlikebility which is where george w. bush like to score, barack obama crushes. >> right. >> mitt romney. on policy issues, it is almost as if people are -- they are very easily persuaded depending on the day of the esh u. >> right. problems facing the country are very big. we know about them, especially viewers of this show know about them in infinite detill. if you ask people if they like the direction of the country or think the economy is going well or think the president is doing a good job, with the economy or foreign policy, let's leave out foreign policy, on the economy and jobs, he scores low. because people can't feel and they don't see this economic recovery that we're talking about. on the other hand, they

personally like the president. if people are asked, do you have a favorable impression of him his numbers are always above 60%. and that tells me that no matter how bad the unemployment numbers are or the economic numbers, if the green shoots aren't as high as the administration would like them to be around november, the idea that the president's approval rating is so high means that the american people like him enough to give him a hearing. they are willing to hear him out on why he should have a second term. that's something that mitt romney doesn't have. >> yeah. almost like image where cognitive dissidents lives. you're like, i like that guy. that guy seems like he means well. seems smart, then you watch the inventory of the actions and you are -- or in the results. and it is more confusing. and this creates a tremendous amount of conflict and tension. >> it's very hard to defeat and incumbent president. it happened in 1908 with reagan with that charisma when he beat

carter and 1992 when clinton beat george bush senior. now romney doesn't have that charisma. so that likability number, actually is exceptionally important. because romney does have an uphill jug struggle. it is close. i think america is more moderate than republicans and democrats would have us believe. or many democrats and many republicans would like us to believe. so he's got the charisma. >> rob, how do you reconcile '04/2012 comparison and obama has the coverage that people like him even if though don't like his policies? >> we have a little more than six months to see this thing play out. this is a -- >> a snapshot. >> this has a long way to go. we've only been into it one week, really, in earnest, since

rick santorum dropped out. they are starting a at a dead heat. romney isn't likeable even within his own party. so this is a problem he will have -- not only across the country, with that, you know, with the independent who will ultimately decide the matter, when have you a dead heat like this, he has a problem with his own party. jonathan is right, likability will, when people walk into the voting booth and they have to make a choice, and really let's face it both, we all know, sat around this table many times, and discussed the fact that both sides aren't yet really being serious about addressing problems that country faces, then it comes down to who is most popular. >> yeah. there is t is. away from this particular presidential election, the cultural shift that date back to 9/11 in this country, which is the exchange of personal privacy for the feeling of personal security, which has been the relatively willing trade-off of

most people or many people in this country, continues to sort of scale away. and we're talking now about the issues of accessing digital records and facebook giving away -- whether they should give away worpass words and you thin this is a strad off. >> i think society gets the government that it deserves, that it wants. me, walking around london, i like the cameras. on the airplane, i like the fact that everyone is being scanned. i like that security is up, it makes me feel better opinion how much difference it makes? i don't know. but we do get the government we deserve. we have ask editor this in a sense, of our government. >> jonathan, rob, obviously, when you look at the analysis of the effectiveness of the money we spend, it is unclear that what we spend on homeland security with rapiscan, the way

we operate doesn't correlate with higher levels of security, it is just higher levels of feeling secure. >> dylan, we don't know, because homeland security doesn't put out a press release every time they foiled -- they have foiled some sort of plot anywhere in the united states. so if anything, we should look at the fact that there hasn't been a major terrorist attack on u.s. soil since september 11th, 2001, as a sign of success. and i'm with you in image. the folks who are complaining about like the back scanners that takes the full sort of body image, fine. i would rather have that than be blown up in midair. >> there is such a thing, rob, where you look at the difference of correlation and causation. and the suggestion that because we are spending all this money on things is the reason other things are not happening is a very convenient way, if you're

rapiscan to win another defense contract at homeland security. but less clear, at least to me, and the risk is, then listen, give away all my rights if you make sure nobody kills me. how do you resolve some of this? >> well, eisenhower warned us all about military industrial complex. what we are facing now is sort of, sort after communications internet complex that has so much of our information, and is doing things as this report that you guys pointed out, where you know, the tacoma, washington police department essentially -- it is one thing about homeland security stopping terrorist pr blowing up airplanes. but a slippery slope when you allowed local police departments to go all the way down -- it get dicey when you ping and find out where low level criminals are. you know, you do get to the point where you are really invading people's privacy. they are invading their personal rights. so i do think it is an important concept to actually start to

talk about this. and to find out what rules there are regarding whether it's cell phone tracking, which is the thing we are talking about earlier. or just the internet. i mean, the internet, facebook, google. the number of companies and working on theant net that have information that you don't even know how they are using it, is sort of staggering. i think it'll actually lead it major scandal at some point. >> it almost seems like a guaranteed major scandal al some point, just a matter of which year and which identities get rapped into it. the panel sticks straight ahead. two words for everybody, syntaxes. our specialist says we shouldn't stop there. people with a machine. what ? customers didn't like it.

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not just crippling individuals in our communities. they are attacking our medical system as well as according to the addition center. 30% result in smoking, excessive drinking or drug abuse. some say it is time to tax the behaviors that are personally and societily expensive but also to force business that profit from selling the poisons to american pose pay up as well. the smoking tax, perhaps, the most instructive. i expect the tip of the iceberg when you look at the various toxins we all consume. those costs, just one of the catastrophes of today's specials. the boom, become becoming clina's bitch" and mine nor catastrophes we must avoid right now. the syntax gets lost, peter, in this moralistic argument.

when is the big government to tell me whether i can smoke, eat cheese burgers or whatever this is. on the other hand, people say, taxes were designed to do this. taxes are designed to discourage things that are expensive and bad and designed for what we want. >> this is literally a circumstance where there's a ditch on both sides of the road. if you go too far in either direction you have basically run off. on the other hand, if you look at the size of the problems, just take smoking, you know, when the mustang was introduced in 1965 there were 50 million smokers in the united states. today, after all these years, 48, 49 years later, there are 46 million. we are down about 5 or 6 million smokers in 48 years. >> but as a percentage of the u.s. population that's a pretty good thing. >> it depends on what gets you moving. if you think going from that percent to that percent works, i'm much more focused on the fact that we've still got 1300

people dying everyday from smoking related illnesses and what's worse, about 3,000 kids pick up the habit everyday. and so you know, this is one of those -- you know, i just think we've got to face the problem. >> i come from europe, i come from britain where can you make people do stuff. we take government interference. here, less so. one in three americans are obese. having fat tax is hardly a vote winner. it is not politically viable. >> corn syrup. why not tax corn syrup? >> one of the things that is interesting -- >> how does that work? how do you make politicians do that? how are politicians going to bring that to the table in. >> i think the first place it start, if you look at obese et, which is a major epidemic, and when i was a teen ager, not all that long ago, 40% of kids were obese, now it is about 18%. we add run away freight train.

150 billion in medical care cost per an um. most people consider that a worthy target. what we have to do is go after those that profit unfairly. there was an english economist and came up with a tax, a payout tax. and if something costs society more than people are paying for it, pay. that deficit has to be made up. he introduced it for alcohol. because alcohol created a bigger hole in the economy than the revenue for alcohol. so he recommended alcohol tax on the alcohol producers. you know, what have you is shareholders are getting away with this. companies getting away with this. and the simple fact is, to put in a syntax, feels good. you go after, let's go after the -- let's go after the cola companies. >> the poison producers.

of varying degreeses. >> some people like to go after the those buying the cola. but those affected are the poor. they are the ones that are least able to afford it. so then is t is a regressive tax. then it doesn't work. it is a single silver bullet and we need a full magazine. >> and the full magazine is a hit to produces, not just the consumers. >> we are comfortable doing that with pollution. if you pollute, you pay. if you have some sort of den gracing to society, you pay. why wouldn't we dot same thing with food and tobacco? the tobacco master settlement of 1998 was $206 billion. sounds lick a big number. over 25 years, it is $8 billion a year. that a pittance. if you take the present value, that's about a hundred billion dollars. that's less than the cost of medical cost of smoking for one year. and the worst part is the states -- >> government must have done that deal.

>> no doubt about it. and states made it better. they said we will discount it and spend it all at once like we won the lottery. >> yes. go ahead, rob. >> yeah, peter, i'm trying to reconcile the idea that you want to curb these behaviors, whether smoking, drinking, eating twinkies, drinking coke. all those things at the same time, that you don't actually want to make this a consumption tax it sounds like. make it a tax on producers, poison producers as dylan calls it. but i'm not sure how this works. if you have the company subsidize the bad behavior, you don't goe from 46 million to 20 million. try to explain that. >> sure. there are two pieces to the equation. one i don't think you can avoid some sort of sin tax. we are addicted and we will have 20 billion in each state. so i think you have to tax the individual users. what i'm concerned about is doing that in isolation. that seems to be necessary perhaps but nowhere near

sufficient. now the second part of your question is the most vexing and i'm not sure i have the magic answer. what does it take to get people to stop doing something? i define customer loyalty as injusting a product that you know will kill you. >> i'm a smoker. i've quit smoking. i will give you a personal anecdote which is i quick smoking when i decide i don't want it smoke any more, not when anybody tells me. i think that's universally true. >> i think it goes didirectly to the wisdom of the question i was asked. combatting the health cost i think is where taxation works. it does not get somebody on his 35th cigarette of the day to stop from having the 36th. >> unless when want to stop. >> so i think this should be innocent advising health. if you add broad gauge, if you look at the kassa report that said $730 million mer anum,

let's do splg to create health dividend. to encourage the fda to go after cigarette companies as if it is an addictive drug. >> you will missouont month /* monopolize the companies. you sound like me now, be careful. >> jonathan, sorry i didn't get you in with rob. peter, tank you so much. peter, yes across the board. thank you for spear heading one of the fronts on this fight. >> i love coming "becoming chin" check it out. and when you're done. read some "greedy bastards." when you're done, we will introduce you to a real life robo cop. follow the wings.

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husband and wife filmmakers josh and rebecca, their film, "the big fix" airs across the united states this weekend. what, rebecca, do you believe -- what's the message that you hope most people absorb by doing this? >> we want people to learn the truth. i think that since what we have seen in the gulf has not been portrayed in the main stream media and the truth is not out there, we want people to know this is still going on. most people think the bp spill is over, it happened two years ago. they don't realize people are sick. the fish have oil in the gill, in the gut. they have lesion owns this tp p is not safe to go in the water down there. i can still experience physical reaction from just us being down there filming "the big fix" two years ago. >> josh, is it clear what the congress or president or the local governments, whoever the agencies may be, could have done in the past two years? and is it clear why they didn't?

>> well, it is very clear what they could have done. it is obvious that the spill response plan needs to be revamped. that is a public document. every company should have that on their website. congress needs to enact new safety precations. we are using the same blowout preventer we used on the deep water horizon. the only difference is now we aren't drilling in one mile, we have two miles. we have actually lowered the safety precautions and that's just a recipe for another disaster. >> why would they not at the very least update the spill response team and make it public in the past 24 -- i mean, you guys legitimately find any answers as to what could possibly prevent the moderate level of response, something like posting an updated spill response document would entail? >> now, remember, pursuant to the exxon valdez oil spill, the

spiller is in charge of a clean-up. it is also in charge of preparing for disaster. so in essence, we have the responsibility under the current legal structure to these companies that are drilling. so it's their responsibility to update or not update the spill response plan. right now it is a conversation with congress that it might be a good idea to have a new spill response plan. >> rebecca, what is it that most -- i mean, this is one of those stories where the digger deep, the further into the rabbit hole you go. the more you can wined your brain into a great deal of, i'm sure, frustration and agitation. what in all of this do you believe is the most alarming? >> i think the most alarming thing is that people think that the bp oil spill is done, it's over, it's gone. and right now today people are still going in the water and

getting rashes. they are coming out with lesions on their skin. they are coming out sick with their autoimmune system pro kmiezed and yet people don't know that. we have been made to thinkity's okay to eat the fish from the gulf when in fact the fish from the gulf has only undergone a smell test. we have seen pictures of fish that's come from the gulf recently, that have oil in their gut. oil in their gills. lesions on their skin. in fact, women along the gulf coast are having miscarriages. they have even linked one malformed baby to a motheril oil spill. oil is still washing ashore right now today. people that the oil spill is gone. it is over and done. but in fact oil is still leaking from that site and washing ashore right now today. >> let's take a look at a clip. >> the first time i went out there, there was oil everywhere.

that's not in the gulf, that's 20 miles in the marsh. and just like katrina, which i didn't evacuate, i stayed in new orleans, response time was unbelievably slow. >> is there an action or a point of convergence or communication that you all are recommending, josh? >> well, we certainly give people resources on the big fix movie.com. the website for the film. we are going to be rolling out ongoing communication with folks who are on the mailing list. things that can be done. the most important thing, obviously is to vote with your money. most of the 401(k), iras, investment vehicles are vested in these companies. so if we want to send a signal, it is one thing to send a signal to congress but congress is already clear. they are giving it a d. we give it an f in the movie.

what are you going to give it? the choice is yours and using your money is probably the most powerful thing can you do. >> congratulations on what has to be an extraordinary undertaking. the "the big fix." josh and rebecca, husband and wife filmmakers and to make a movie is a hard thing to make a movie married has to be an additional challenge. to make a movie married about an american catastrophe, an extraordinary accomplishment. congratulations to both of you, josh and rebecca. coming up here, alan west says he doesn't have any regrets about calling as many as 80 house democrats, members of the communist party. some fighting words for chris matthews tonight on "hardball." but next, the take on america's scandal obsession. >> the photographs of your junk will be publicized. your personal indiscretions, hyper virtual discretions,

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now i believe there is still oil at the bottom of the gulf. let me repeat. i believe they are still rebuilding in new orleans. let me retweet. i believe there are still people dying in our streets. but the photographs of your junk. uh-huh. hash tag, priorities. >> that, a clip of our next guest, latest youtube video, the photographs of your junk will be publicized. >> that right. >> it is all about using sat satire to examine tabloid topics

while leaving our most pressing topics, like the collapsing learning infrastructure, corruption -- anyway, we are ignoring those. the actor film maker who made the trip to new york, well make it worth your while. >> pleasure to be here dylan. >> how are you. >> great. >> i want to show people more inside the narrative. enthen we will talk about it. take another look at a ronnie butler clip. >> "the revolution" has been photo shopped to look gentler than it is. it is costing you $5 a gallon and refuted, muted and diluted like the news of your homes more closure. it has been confiscated amalgamated much like your prafcy hacked like the social network connecting you and putting you to sleep. >> you say putting people to sleep. one of our core things that we have realized in doing the show is that you are either awake and can see what's going on, which means you are looking to collaborate with other people,

you are looking for answers. or you're asleep and tend to be covered with fear and looking for a fight. how much of the way our culture function says putting us to sleep? >> well, especially with this explosion of digital media, being able to con be connected all the time and addicted to being connected all the time. on top of social media where there is an expectation of being engaged all the time. sur sur rending privacy without a thought. >> here, at the restaurant. >> right, next week they will put the cyber security act on the hill? >> request sure. >> they will start debating that. on the macro level there are gave concerns about people's civil liberties and privacy. but when you are out everyday talking about, this is who i'm with, this is how much i'm spending, this is where i am, plugging in every time you're at bar code, how much does somebody have to work to actually spy on you honestly. >> right.

>> you are basically begging to be spied upon. >> absolutely. >> let's look at another clip. >> you will not be able to hide behind the nine nl amendment. apparently congressional oversight extends above the thighs and into the sweet twittering song of your misguided passion. "the revolution" will not terminate the appetite to investigate. and your apologies will not remeelate a thing. you will be villainized. >> this is a classic example of our friends with prostitutes in cartajena. >> absolutely. >> can you say, listen, have prostitutes. >> sure. if you want to own your scandals, absolutely. but so many people, you know, we see it in example after example, participate in these things, even though we live in a world where you can't hide from my where but they participate and then want it deny it, ignore it, not own it. and listen, the bottom line is, this this day and age, no