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straight to the holocaust remembrance museum. here we are watching president obama now speaking just introduced. let's listen straight away. >> of course it is a truly humbling moment. we just spent some time among the exhibits and this is now the second visit i've had here. my daughters have come here. it is a searing occasion
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whenever you visit. as we walked, i was taken back to the visit when we traveled together and i recalled how he showed me the barbed wire fences and the guard towers and we walked the rows where the barracks once stood where so many left this earth including his father. we stopped at an old photo, men and women lying in their wooden bunks barely more than skeltetos and if you look closely you can see a 16-year-old boy looking right into the camera into your eyes and at the end of our visit that day, he spoke of his father. i thought one day i will come
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back and speak to him, he said. of times in which memory has become a sacred duty of all people of good will. you devoted your life to upholding that sacred duty. you have challenged us all as individuals and as nations to do the same with the power of your example, the eloquence of your words as you did again just now. so to you, we are extraordinarily grateful. to sarah, to tom bernstein, to josh bolton, members of the united states holocaust memorial council, and everyone who sustains this living memorial, thank you for welcoming us here today. to the members of congress, members of the diplomatic corps including ambassador mike lauren of israel, we're glad to be with you. most of all, we're honored to be
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in the presence of men and women whose lives are a testament, the endurance and the strength of the human spirit. inspiring survivors. it is a privilege to be with you on a very personal level. as i have told some of you before, i grew up hearing stories about my great uncle, a soldier in the 89th infantry division who was stunned and shaken by what he saw when he helped to liberate part of the area. i'll never forget what i saw where so many perished with the words on their lips. i have stood with survivors where a monument honors heros
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who says we will not go quietly, we will stand up and we will fight back and i have walked those sacred grounds. during my visit, i was given a gift inscribed with those words from the book of job. as the like of this happened in your days or in the days of your fathers, tell your children about it. let your children tell theirs. and their children the next generation. that's why we're here. not simply to remember but to speak. i say this is a president and i say it as a father. we must tell our children about a crime unique in human history, the one and only holocaust, 6
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million innocent people, men, women, children, babies, sent to their deaths just for being different. just for being jewish. we tell them, our children, about the millions of poles and catholics and gay people and so many others who also must never be forgotten. let us tell our children not only how they died but also how they lived. as fathers and mothers. sons and daughters. and brothers and sisters who loved and hoped and dreamed just like us. we must tell our children about how this evil was allowed to happen because so many people
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fell to their darkest instance and others stood silent. let us also tell our children about the righteous among the nations. among them was a young polish catholic who witnessed jews being put on cattle carts and told the truth to president roosevelt himself. this spring i will honor him with america's highest civilian honor, the presidential medal of freedom. [ applause ] we must tell our children but more than that we must teach them because remembrance without
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resolve is a hollow gesture. awareness without action changes nothing. in a sense never again is a challenge to us all to pause and to look within. for the holocaust may have reached its barbaric complex but it started in the hearts of ordinary men and women. we have seen it again. madness that can sweep through nations and embed itself. the killings in cambodian. the killings in rwanda, the killings in bosnia, the killings in darfur. they shock our conscience.
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they are the spectrum of extreme and intolerance that we see every day. the bigotry had a says another person is less than my equal. less than human. these are the seeds of hate that we cannot let take root in our heart. never again is a challenge to reject hatred in all of its forms including anti-semitism which has no place in the civilized world and today just steps from where he gave his life protecting this place, we honor the memory of officer stefan tyrone johns whose family joins us today. never again is a challenge to defend the fundamental right of free people and free nations to
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exist in peace and security and that includes the state of israel. you know, my visit when a woman looked a looked at me in the eye and wanted to make sure america stood with israel. it's the only jewish state we have. i made her a promise in that solemn place. i said i would always be there with israel. when international force single out israel with unfair resolutions, we vote against them. when ademfaced with a regime th threatens global security and threatens to destroy israel, the united states will do everything in our power to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon.
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never again is a challenge to societies. we're joined today by communities who have made it your mission to prevent mass atrocities in our time. this museum's committee of conscience, faith groups, college students, you have harnessed tools of the digital age with online maps and satellites and video and social media campaign seen by millions. you understand the change comes from the bottom up, from the grassroots. you understand to quote the task force convened by this museum preventing genocide is an achievable goal it is an achievable goal but it is one that does not stop from the top, it starts from the bottom up. it's remarkable as we walk through this exhibit we were
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talking as we looked at the unhappy record of the state department and so many officials here in the united states during those years. he asked what would you do? but what you all understand is you don't just count on officials. you don't just count on governments. you count on people and mobilizing their conscience. and finally never again is a challenge to nations. it's a bitter truth. too often the world has failed to prevent the killing of innocence on a massive scale and we're haunted by the atrocities that we did not stop and the lives we did not save. three years ago today i joined
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many of you for a ceremony of remembrance at the u.s. capitol. i said that we had to do everything we can to prevent and end atrocities. so i want to report back to some of you today to let you know that as president i've done my utmost to back up those words with deeds. last year in the first ever presidential directive on this challenge i made it clear that preventing mass atrocities and genocide is a core national security interest and a core moral responsibility of the united states of america. it does not mean that we intervene militarily every time there's an injustice in the world. we cannot and should not. it does mean we possess many tools diplomatic and political and economic and financial and intelligence and law enforcement
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and our moral assauation and i know we have saved countless lives. when there was a conflict threatened to reignite that would kill millions but with determined diplomacy including by some people this this room, south sudan became the world's newest nation and our diplomacy continues because in darfur and the blue nile, the killing of innocence must come to an end and the presidents of sudan and south sudan must have courage to negotiate because the people deserve peace as work that we have done. it has saved lives. when the incumbent lost an election but refused to give up power, he threatened to unleash
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untold ethnic and religious killings but with regional and international diplomacy and u.n. peacekeepers who stood their ground and protected civilians. former leader is now in the hague and it is governorred by i its rightful leader and lives were saved. when libyan people demanded their rights and when moammar gadhafi threatened to hunt down its people like rats, we forged with allies and partners a coalition that stopped his troops in their tracks and today the libyan people are forging their own future. the world can take pride in the innocent lives that we saved. when the lord's resistance army led by joseph kony continued its
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atrocities in central africa, i ordered a small number of american advisers to help uganda and its neighbors pursue the lra. when i made that announcement, i directed my national security council to review progress after 150 days. we have done so and today i can announce that our advisers will continue their efforts to bring this madman to justice and to save lives. it is part of a regional strategy. [ applause ] as part of our regional strategy to end the nra and where no african child is stolen from their family and no girl is raped and no boy is turned into a child soldier. we stepped up efforts in other way. we are doing more to protect
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women from wartime sexual violence. with the rest of fugitives charged with ethic cleansing in bosnia, the world sent a message to war criminals everywhere, we will not relent in bringing you to justice. be on notice. for the first time we explicitly barred entry into the united states of those responsible for those war crimes and crimes against humanity. now we're doing something more. we're making sure that the united states government has the structures and mechanisms to better prevent and respond to mass atrocities. so i created the first ever white house position dedicated to this task. it's why i created new atrocities prevention board to bring together senior officials from across our government to
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focus on this critical mission. this is not an after thought. this is not a sideline in our foreign policy. the board will convene for the first time today at the white house. i'm pleased that one of its first acts will be to meet with some of your organizations. citizens and activists who are partners in this war. who have been carrying this torch. going forward will strengthen our tools across the board and create new ones. the intelligence community will prepare the first ever national intelligence estimate on the risk of mass atrocities and genocide. we're going to institutionalize the focus on this issue across government alert channel s will ensure that information about unfolding crises and descending
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opinions quickly reach decision makers including me. our treasury department will work to more quickly deploy its financial tools to block the flow of money to abusive regimes. our military will take additional steps to incorporate the prevention of atrocities into its doctrine and its planning. and the state department will increase the ability to surge diplomats and experts in a crisis. usaid will invite people and high tech companies to create new technologies to quickly expose violations of human rights and we'll work with other nations so the burden is better shared because this is a global responsibility. and in short we need to be doing everything we can to prevent and respond to these kind of atrocities because national sovereignty is never a license to slaughter your people.
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[ applause ] we recognize that even as we do all we can, we cannot control every event. when innocence suffer, it tears at our conscience. he alluded to what we feel syrian people subjected to unspeakable violence simply for demanding their universal rights. we have to do everything we can and as we do we have to remember that despite all of the tanks and all of the snipers and all of the torture unleashed against them, the syrian people brave the streets and demand to be
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heard and seek dignity. the syrian people have not given up which is why we cannot give up and so with allies and partners we will keep increasing the pressure for the diplomatic effort to further isolate assad and his regime so that those who stick with assad know they are making a losing bet. we will keep increasing sanctions to cut off the regime from the money it needs to survive and killers will face justice and humanitarian effort to get relief and medicine to the syrian people. we'll keep working with the friends of syria to increase support for the syrian opposition as a grows stronger. today we're taking another step. i've signed an executive order that authorizes new sanctions against the syrian government and iran and those that have bet them for using technologies to monitor and track citizens for violence. these technologies should not empower -- these technologies
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should be in place to empower citizens and not to repress them. it's one more step that we can take toward the day that we know will come. the end of the assad regime that's brutalized the syrian people and allow the syrian people to chart their own destiny. even with all of the efforts i described today, even with everything that hopefully we have learned, even with the incredible power of museums like this one, even with everything that we do to try to teach our children about our own responsibilities, we know that our work will never be done.
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there will be conflicts that are not easily resolved. there will be senseless deaths that aren't prevented. there will be stories of pain and hardship that test our hopes and try our conscience. and in such moments it can be hard to imagine a more just world. it can be tempting to throw up our hands and resign ourselves. demands endless capacity for cruelty. it's tempting sometimes to believe that there's nothing we can do.
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all of us have those doubts. all of us have those moments perhaps especially those that work in these fields. so in the end i come back to something that was said the day we visited together. reflecting on all that he had endured, he said "we had the right to give up." we had the right to give up on humanity and culture and education and to give up on the possibility of living one's life with dignity in a world that has no place for dignity. they have that right. imagine what they went through. they had the right to give up. nobody would begrudge them that. who would question someone
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giving up in such circumstances? but he said, "we rejected that possibility. we said no. we must continue believing in a future." to stare into the abyss and face darkness and insist there is a future to not give up, to say yes to life, to believe in the possibility of justice, to the survivors who are here today, thank you for not giving up. [ applause ] you show us the way.
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you show us the way. if you cannot give up, if you can believe, then we can believe. if you can continue to strive and speak, then we can speak and strive for a future where there's a place for dignity for every human being. that's been the cause of your lives. it must be the work of our nation and of all nations. god bless you and god bless the united states of america. thank you very much. thank you. >> all right. president obama at the u.s. holocaust memorial museum in
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washington on holocaust remembrance day. he was alluding there to a nobel peace prize winner and holocaust survivor who introduced the president there. i want to bring in joanne reid and msnbc contributor karen hunter. he called out here both iran and syria. now, when we look at these mentionings, how will this change anything? listen to details of this new plan he's put out and what is actually happening in those locations and others around the world. >> i think what you're hearing from this president is sort of a duality. hedging on what we used to see in american foreign policy which was an attitude toward iran. i think the president is trying to walk it back but also reaffirm that the united states is determined to end the violence in syria and to push
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back on iran he's quest as a lot of americans and israelis believe is their weapon. >> there have been criticisms from the right on how the president has handled what has been happening in syria. do you think what he said right here will kind of push back some of those criticisms? >> it doesn't matter what the president says. they're going to still criticize him. he could say the most perfect thing on paper and they'll still criticize him. in eight years prior to this president, it was hard to travel throughout the world and hard to hold our heads up high in a lot of places. i think this president has done a great job in changing that perception across the world and making these kind of speeches is hard to not feel the sincerity and hard to not feel humanity when he is speaking so eloque eloquently and you know he was touched by his movement today through the holocaust museum. you felt that that he connected with that moment and that he never wants that to happen again. i just really think that there's nothing that the right is going to ever be satisfied with. >> and he finishes after that
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speech now saying good-bye to some of those that are in attendance there at the holocaust memorial museum in washington. we'll switch gears to politics of the day and talk about the election. mitt romney still hammering away this morning about president obama's failings on the economy. take a listen to this. >> they said roughly these words. we have to get off the economic road we're on and take a new direction. i could not agree more. so he's out of ideas. he's out of excuses. and in 2012 we got to make sure he's out of office. >> it comes as unemployment in 14 swing states has dropped in the last year according to an analysis by the associated press. a panel of course still here with us. i want to start with rudy giuliani. he endorsed mitt romney today. i want to play a clip of that. >> reminds me of going to a surgeon. if i have a cancer to be operated on, i didn't go to the nicest doctor. i went to the best doctor. guy can have a great personality
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and tell great jokes and put the knife in the wrong way. >> he was asked about romney's likability. what do you think, karen? going to let that one go? >> it's interesting. he doesn't even believe that mitt romney is the best candidate. we see the polls. the republicans aren't happy with this. they are holding their noses and they are lining up behind him because they don't have a chow s choice. here's a man on the ground, president obama, who has ten hawaiian us through one of the most horrific economic times that we've had. you showed the map. unemployment in the states that were suffering, unemployment is down. >> mitt romney, his line is that president obama is a nice guy but when it comes to issue of the economy and let me go to another poll, this from "the wall street journal"/nbc news, it shows that people favor mitt romney on two key issues. one of which is the economy and
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when you look at it, what do you do if you're the obama administration and see the numbers in front of you? >> there's a risk and reward for mitt romney in this strategy. the risk is that he's hedged his entire campaign on the economy so that if the economy improves by november, he's sort of out of gas. for him the reward where the area he matches or in some polls best the president is on people's insecurity about the economy going forward irrespective of it getting better and slowly and people's confidence growing. romney is gambling everything on the economy not being so good. what you heard about rudy giuliani saying that he's likable but, you can tell the message is against people who don't distrust the candidate like the base does. >> thank you for following along with us with the president as he was speaking live in washington.
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trial. that could be more than a year away. part of the reason he's gone into hiding because of death threats and there have been new death threats out online various twitter accounts and others today. so they are actually paying this with a fair amount of heed and caution because they believe as you know at least some people have even put out bounty on his head. they are treating it seriously. that doesn't mean authorities don't know where he is. they put an ankle monitor on him. that's hooked up to a gps to track movements and they know where he is. he has permission to leave the state. left at midnight. he may be out of the state. >> kerry sanders, thank you with the latest for us. there are now 12 secret service agents under investigation in a prostitution scandal and this morning the head of the house homeland security committee is predicting more heads will roll. >> six have been forced to leave. one has been partially exonerated and we expect in the next day to see several more
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agents being forced to leave the agency. >> okay. i'm joined by nbc national correspondent and also by one that helped manage the trips for the carter administration. several more agents about to be out of a job according to peter king. what are you hearing? >> well, the most interesting new wrinkle here and it is a wrinkle is that this 12th secret service agent who has been implicated in this was staying at another hotel, at the hilton hot hotel, than where the 11 were staying. the interesting thing about the hilton hotel is the same hotel where members of white house advance staff are believed to have stayed. we should emphasize there's no evidence at this point members of the white house staff were in any way involved in the scandal or procured any women at all. the proximity of having a secret service agent at that hotel,
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same hotel as the white house, is going to be one reason people like senator grassley and others will be pressing for answers on whether or not there's anything that implicates any white house people. >> meanwhile, there's the outward inward look on what's happening with the secret service agency itself. i want to play a clip from susan collins and congresswoman carol maloney. take a listen to this. >> i can't help but wonder if there have been more women as part of that detail if this ever would have happened. >> only 11% of the agents are women and if -- we agree on this. if there were more agents on the ground maybe we wouldn't have had this. >> would more women agents have prevented this bad behavior? >> i think it's a good sound bite but i actually don't think it's the case. i think actually director sullivan since he's been director has done a remarkable job bringing more women into the secret service and to the
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management, the supervisor of overall who acted quickly after this incident happened is a woman. she jumped on this. worked with director sullivan to bring these agents back home and i think the investigation has been swift with decisive action. you know, this is a very difficult job with very long hours, a lot of travel, 24/7, and -- >> this is the best of the best. what about maloney. she says 11% of secret service members are women. why is that number so low? >> i think it's because when you are a secret service agent you really don't have a life and
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your life is your job. you are traveling all the time. i spent a lot of time with agents, men and women, and it's very, very difficult to raise a family in that situation. so i think it may have not been as appealing to women but this administration of director sullivan has brought a lot more women into the secret service including into executive positions and they're to be congratulated. certainly there should be more. >> michael, talk about that if you will. also if you could, the political overtones, the political blowback that might result from what we have seen so far now just a week in. >> the most interesting political part of this is that primary republicans on the hill, congressional leaders have not been calling for the head of
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director sullivan. peter king, darrell issa, others have been almost uniformly supportive of the way director sullivan has been handling this and his aggressive approach to the investigation. now, clearly that can change. one top gop leader said last week this could change on a dime if something new comes forward. the most interesting part of this, the million dollar question as some staffers have said, if you had 11 or 12 people involved in this activity on this trip, has it happened before? that's a central part of this investigation. all agents are being asked that very question. where has this happened before? if that turns out to be the case, then i think we get to those broader issues that could lead to senator grassley saying that heads will roll if it reflects on the culture of the
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secret service. >> it's early on in the investigation. thank you. >> thank you. >> today chris is hanging with president jimmy carter miguel gorbachev and she's heading up the panel. if you read one thing today, it's a piece in the chicago tribune about how teenagers are getting involved in that summit of world leaders. it's up on our facebook page. let me tell you about a very important phone call i made. when i got my medicare card, i realized i needed an aarp...
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>> to politics now where the supreme court will hear arguments this week on arizona's immigration law. the tough state law expanded state police powers allowing them to check immigration status of anyone they stop. the law was challenged by the obama administration. utah senator orrin hatch preparing for a primary. this weekend at the utah republican convention, he did not get 60% of the vote missing by just 32. he'll face his first primary since he was elected to senate back in 1976.
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his opponent state senator dan liljenquist. the primary knocked out bob bennett two years ago. chris christie is fighting back after someone snapped a picture of him with his eyes closed at the bruce springsteen concert last week. >> during "rocky ground" which is a spiritual song. people sat. i sat up on the seat and i put my head back and closed my eyes and listened to the song. >> spiritual. all right. chris christie. that was politics now. elite access. all you need is cash, connections and karma. if you can't afford nearly $36,000 to gorge with george, how about $500. that got 1,000 into tyler perry's estate or for free. mitt romney had kid rock sing to 1,000.
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trump hosted for an ann romney birthday. couples mesmerized by michelle paid $40,000 in d.c. one of three fundraisers this week. those are small potatoes. a new obama campaign asked for 75,800 to be a conference chair. that's the largest ever. that gets divvied to meet campaign finance laws. nearly 31,000 for dnc. the last across state party commissions many of which are key battleground states as you can see including ohio and florida. now the dash for cash jump-started long ago try day 65 of the obama presidency. tony bennett crooned on march 25th, 2009. why so early? candidates cannot ignore history. more money means more votes. obama beat mccain in money and won.
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bush, xliii the same. exception, dole led in cash but lost. where cash is not king. white house correspondents dinner, even celebrities jockey for tickets to the annual presidential roast that bring hollywood and d.c. together. this all may sound daunting to you. this obama campaign tweet may give you hope. $3 gets you in on a raffle for that dinner with the president and clooney. your chances? a lottery ticket might be a better bet. let's bring in two people with inside access to the big-time political fund-raiser scene. you worked closely with the clintons and dnc and new york city mayor and also joined by a republican strategist that's been an adviser to president george w. bush, vice president cheney and senator john mccain to name a few. good day to both of you. if someone either wins or can afford to attend this george clooney fund-raiser i was talking about with obama, what
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does that get them when it comes to face time with the president? >> five minutes, ten minutes, maybe more to say what's on your mind and be able to influence that leader. you are in front of some of the world's most powerful individuals and you have an opportunity to say what's on your mind and talk about issues that are important to you. >> for only $35,000. that $35,000 seat is not a lead enough, there's typically a vip reception above this. what do you get there? >> you get the opportunity to speak what's on your mind what we just heard but you get an opportunity to be front and center as you know the squeaky wheel gets the grease. in this town where there's so many voices and so many people trying to be very loud, really face time with people in power can be indeed a way to communicate directly -- >> is there a line of people that want to get these tickets
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that are $35,000 to over $70,000? >> on the republican side not so much now. that will happen later on this summer once we have a nominee locked in and there will be larger events. right now it's smaller roundtables that you see our candidates at and you have bundlers that will raise them with smaller checks from individuals across the country. we're just not quite yet at that same level where the president is right now. >> then they'll start to line up. you get in the door and you are talking to the candidate and in this case george clooney, do you have to talk really loud? everybody who has paid that amount of money want to get that face time that you are talking about. >> they get that face time. remember, the candidates themselves are mingling. it's important that you in that five or so minutes that you have to say exactly what's on your mind. be concise. make it impactful. >> we only have five minutes. just doing math is expensive
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time. >> these are tightly choreographed events. those leaders know exactly who in the room at that moment. they are actually coming into the space knowing who you are and probably what you're going to be talking about. >> talk about what was just brought up right now about candidates. do they know who these high paying donors are when they ent enter? >> i hope in the president's case he has more important things to think about. you know, he's a very smart man. romney is a smart man. they are capable of thinking on their feet and reacting appropriately to any request brought before them in a way that's ethical and responsible. i for one -- i would prefer that the candidate spend more time thinking about the issue and policy positions they should be taking rather than thinking about how they'll respond to specific donor requests from rooms of hundreds of people. >> that is the reality for now at least in politics. thank you for returning today. we appreciate your time. we'll be right back after
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liberty mutual auto insurance, responsibility -- what's your policy? is this the gop ticket for 2012? next hour hits the trail with marco rubio in battleground state of pennsylvania. the corruption trial that has it all. a former presidential candidate who stunned his supporters and
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six secret service agents out. could more get the boot in the prostitution scandal that's rocking washington? there are new polcalls to exten the investigation into the white house. hundreds of friends on facebook that you chat with, comment on, like their statuses and pictures. turns out that facebooking might be making you lonelier than ever. good monday to you. i'm craig melvin. thomas roberts has the day off. 2012, could it be the bumper sticker of the future for the republican party? next hour we will get our first peek at the dynamic duo on the trail together for the first time. senator rubio is scheduled to join mitt romney for a town hall in pennsylvania one day before republicans vote in that primary. rubio continues to dodge questions about the possibility of being the vp pick while romney keeps his focus on the man he wants t

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