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equal shots on both sides. >> it will be an interesting night, it always is, bob, emily, great segment, thanks for coming on the show, see you in tomorr full coverage of the white house correspondents 'dinner, it starts right here on msnbc. thanks for watcpt, have a great. dirty, angry money. let's play "hardball." >> good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington tonight. coming up, enmys of democracy. you all have a single vote, but what about money dictators. the coke brothers group,
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americans for prosperity is bumps $6 plus million in eight battleground states to take down president obama, and what about the power of interest to control house and senate races.ç plus back in the ussr, are mitt romney and his people looking to reignite the cold war. they said we're not doing enough to help the soviets. and romney, himself, infamously said that russia was america's number one political foe. they can't wait to get back into power, get back to the cold war it seems, these people who always seem to have their eye on yet another war to fight. also, republicans have made it their goal to destroy barack obama, did you know they started planning it the day of his inauguration? and it's an old hollywood adage, funny is money. tonight, we have a comedy writer
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that once came up with gags like this one for president obama. >> others say that i'm arrogant, but i found a really great self-help tool for this -- my poll numbers. >> we're going to look back at some of the best moments from past dinners as washington gets ready for tomorrow night's big night that you can watch here on msnbc. let me finish with my concern about influence of ank ri right wing among that we consider our democracy. both men here are msnbc political analyst. i was struck this morning by a small item, gentlemen, in the washington examiner whiclç i tr to read every day. it's a shopper with lots of interesting news. americans with prosperity, funded by charles and david coke, they've also spent $6
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million in ads in eight battleground states. let's watch what they're up to. >> $1.2 billion to a solar company building a plant in medical examiner owe it half a billion to a car company that created jobs in finland, and tens of millions of dollars to build traffic lights in china. he wasted $34 billion in risky investments. the result? failure. american taxpayers are sending their own jobs to foreign countries. tell president obama american tax dollars should help american taxpayers. >> a progressive organization, think progress, disputes facts in this. he says two of the claims in mexico and fin land are based on false stories by conservative bloggers. these two guys that make all of
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their money in oil and gas don't like any green industry, period. they're spending millionis and millions to prevent us from getting an escape route from oil and gas. >> they don't like the president, democrats, and democrats that talk about alternatives to fossil fuels. they're attackingç obama with false information based on blogs that have not been fact checked, and they're making it sound crazy and nutty to care about green jobs. it's a wonderful -- it's right out of carl rove's play book. >> i want to talk tonight and probably keep talking about it -- everybody goes to vote, treasures their rote. i don't care if you're on the left or right, you only get one. and you only get to vote in one
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place. people like these coke brothers, can go into any race, they did it out there, dumped tons of money and just switch a race around. >> they can, and they will. and you know, it's -- look, we had a series of decisions made starting with the supreme court back in 1972. we have progressively seen the system of campaign finance destroyed by the influence. every cycle it gets worse. the supreme court -- sometimes united is the last in a string of regulations. it's gotten worse and worse, and now we have reached a point where it's hard to imagine that it could get worse in terms of the way that unregulated private money is getting involved in our election cycle. it's a huge problem for the president because right now, although there are a lot of rich people that like barack obama and supported him in 2008, he is
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in danger of getting not just out spent, butç dramatically outspent. >> and what's driving this huge amount of spending? anger. >> yes, they hate obama. a lot of them are not ideological. some of them are just businessmen who want tax breaks, regulations repealed. they have specific business interests, and others just detest the president. >> he was brilliant today. he said all of these groups have to do it. they simply go to a local congressman or woman, who may be moderately popular. they say if you don't vote for this creepy little deal, if you don't vote for it, we're dumping money against you and we're going to blow you away. >> they say people won't pay attention, i won't even do it. >> they don't have to say it. these ads can happen at a
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moment's notice where the candidate doesn't have the ability to put an ad together. they can buy all of the tv time in your district for the last weekend. so people are running scared and p pree pree preemptively looking out. >> while obama had a ten-to-one campaign cash advantage to ram any at the start of the month, it drops two-to-one with super pac money. when you look at the super mac money, theyç raised $9 million while the super pac, the rove operation, and restore our future, which is romney, raised $80 million. when all is said and done, both will raise in excess of three quarters of a billion dollars.
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is is this -- how do people keep the morale up when they up against this money thrown against them. >> this has been a degenerating system in the last 40 years of life. we have seen it cycle by cycle getting worse. voters so far, look at this as a process issue. maybe we're at a tipping point, but so far -- >> let's watch this. >> politics is dirty and corrupt, there's a lot of money, i don't care. >> i don't carry a torch for santorum, and gingrich was interesting, they were not 9/11 the race because of this money. money ran those primaries. >> the election is becoming, and john is right, it's been going on for decades, but we're
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getting to the curve where it goes to hyper speed. their venting billionaires that can come in and tilt the balance -- there are a whole bunch of others. at a moment's notice theyç sav super pac friend saved his butt, kept newt in the game longer than otherwise he would. having impact, and this is is befo before we get to the general election. you take six, ten, or twenty billion dollars, put them in the key states, and that's a lot of influence. >> let's be clear, the fact that the democrats raised only $9 million in the last year, is not because they're trying to do this. right now it's dominated by right-wing. it's not like democrats would not take that money --
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>> but -- so far the reason, it seems if you ask the guys at priorities usa, the reason they think they have not gotten big checks, they're trying to get them, democratic billionaires are not scared enough. they have looked at this right-wing at the nomination fight, and they don't think romney can beat obama. >> one of the -- >> i think you're right. look, let me go back to real people. people that watch programs like this pay attention and care. those 20% in the middle that decide elections pay attention near the end. the last couple weeks and months, but if you do it like that and watch television in the last couple months, which you do, you can't turn on even a nonpolitical show like entertainment tonight. it's saturated by negativity. attacking the president for being cool.
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for a nonattentive voter, this could be a turn off to obama. let's take a look, see if it is. ♪ >> obama! obama! >> preezy of the united steezy. ♪ i'm so in love with you >> he's a jackass. >> obama! obama! obama! obama! >> i can see some regular voter where i grew up, anywhere i grew up, watching this saying that guy is screwing around as president, not taking it
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seriously, and i'm gotten for the other guy. >> you have to believe that before they put $6 million into this, they did the focus groups. they showed this to people and polled them before and after, and they got the sense of this sort of cheap shot might work with this kind of voter in a certain kind of place. >> a person that is turned off to what looks like too cool. >> to me, there is a case of flas this, it's hard to know what is in someone's heart when theirç making that or what the trying to play on, but it's ugly. >> republicans are good at running at a candidate's strength and turning it into a weakness, and here it is. he is cool, likable, has a sense of humor. they want to say, no, he is above you. he is weak. weak leader, romney is strong,
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obama is weeak, he's not silly, he's not serious or working for you. they will do this over and over again. the economy is an issue that works to the republican's advantage. obama has personal at tributes and they will hammer for the any objection six months. >> my son michael said, if you look at this election seriously, how difficult and scarey the times were, and what he was able to do to move us out of that horror pit and where we are today, you vote for him. if you look at it without much attention, like this ad, you think you try the other guy. >> where's libya, egypt, and it's not in that ad. >> bailing out the auto try, real jobs, thank you gentleman.
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americans know -- americans know that we can't go back to the future. and see the world through a cold war prison that is totally out of touch with the realities of the 21st century. >> does mitt romney want to refight the cold war? vice president biden say he thinks romney is out of touch on foreign policy. they called a prebuttal to romney's speech. let's listen to them.
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>> russia is another example of where we give russia gets and we get nothingç in return. we -- the united states abandoned miss the sights in cze czechslovakia. another advisory said their making the united states weak and used another cold war word. >> the reality is it's opening up huge new vulnerabilities. we're seeing the soviets pushing into the arctic with no response from us. >> that's john lennon, the soviets are gone. with foreign policies like these, romney doesn't need
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enemies. chris cillizza is here, these terms are familiar to my fears. you bin to sound like a geezer and a little out of it. >> it's true, i think a lot of the folks who are surrounding mitt romney are from george h.w. bush's team. it's like they can't run on george bush, so they're going back to the reagan era of the bush war. the democrats are making this argument, butç you also see romney trying to make the argument that in some ways, obama embodiys the old soft democrats soft when it comes to defense and national security. >> chris, it also seems more
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dangerous than comical to me. they always have a war they want to fight. they were randy to get into iraq and afganistan. they always want to fight a war. now it's iran, they want to arm the rebels in syria. they always want to push us to another war. it's not like a comedy team. they're always pushing, always war hawks, and they always have the next little war in their pez dispenser. it's always like that. they never say let's hold back and see what happens, they want to get in there and fight. >> i agree this is serious stuff. sometimes we go down rabbit holes of misstatements and things that don't matter. this matters in a very real way. i talked to norm coleman, a
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former add rform er advisor to romney, and he said barack obama represents a break with how america has presented itself to the world since, you know, basically world war ii, the peace through strength. it's an interesting threat that they're trying toç draw that obama is a nominalist. i'm not foreign policy expert, but i think the world has changed since the cold war. it's not longer just us and russia, it's afghanistan, and syria, there's a huge number of threats out there so the older approach doesn't work as well. it's a fascinating line of argument on foreign policy that romney is making all of his add vie ors are trying to craft. >> our presidents that have been popular in the world like kennedy and eisenhower, they
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were not hawks. the campaign is out with a new ad narrated by bill clinton. it plays up obama's courage taking out bin laden. let's listen to president bill clinton here. >> that's one thing george bush said that's right. the president is the decider in chief. nobody can make that decision for you. he knew what would happen. suppose they went in there and it hadn't been bin laden. suppose they were captured or killed. the downside would have been horrible for him. he reasoned. i cannot in good conscious do nothing. he took the harder and the more honorable path. and the one that produced, in my opinion, the best result. >> wow, you can'tç -- i mean bil
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clinton giving you testimony like that is just for real. >> and this was the joiner to the ad that came out that showed obama, you know singing and all of that sort of stuff. but i think one of the things that is apparent here is romney has not articulated what his foreign policy is. >> you're being kin. >> he gave wild statements about going to war with iran. >> he made one major speak in october, and i'm told in may -- >> what about biden. he says he wants to get tougher with iran without going to war? >> i think that's true, and his criticism of obama is he would have tougher sanctions. >> another war. >> do they have to bring another war with every new president? these guys do like to have something on deck in the on deck circle. >> you had a thought there? >> chris, i would say take one
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step back. what romney has said, there has been a general lack of specificity on what his foreign policy visual would be. why? why, chris in romney was the governor of massachusetts for four years. this is someone who has, at least -- he is at least as inexperienced as barack obama was when barack obama was elected president of the united states. and that was the main attack, is this guy ready to lead in a complicated world. mitt romney is not someone with deepç knowledge about foreign policy. i'm interested to see how they flesh this out. he can't lose -- part of being commander in chief is is people think you can stand up in the world. while i don't think a lot of people will rote on foreign policy, all of the economic stuff might not matter. >> just remember, barack obama made his bones, and beat senator
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clinton at the time. he came out as a state senator. this guy, romney, is interested in making money. he never expressed any interest in the world, foreign policy, never written anything about it, and now he as i think i will develop a foreign policy. he will sit down with right-wingers and do what they want to do. he doesn't have a gut interest in foreign policy and that's the scary part were or we would know what it is by now. he's a grown up, we should know where he stands. thank you both, have a nice weekend, enjoy the big festivities this week which i say everybody here can watch on tv. newt gingrich lost his secret service protection, but he's still going to zoo. what did this guy have to do with running for president and going to zoos all the time. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro.
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back to "hardball," now for the side show, first up, a slip up that says it up. we see it time and time again. republicans dancing around questions on president obama's religion and if he is born in the united states or not. >> the president says he's aç christian, i accept him at his word. >> i think the faith that most american are questioning is his faith in the government. >> i take him at his word. >> the american people have the right to think what they want to think. >> i think it is very bizarre, he is desperately concerned to apologize to muslim religious fanatics. >> he is a muslim, why isn't something being done to get him out of our government.
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he has no legal right to be calling himself president -- >> i'm doing my best to try to get him out of the government. >> santorum had no problemtht. it came full circle this week, dave expense, a candidate for governor in missouri got backlash when he said he know if the candidate was a muslim. they had a list of go-to responses for him. she accountly e-mailed her pointers to a group of reporters, so what he was supposed to say? >> plan a, this is not an issue i felt was pertinent to my candidacy for governor and expressed nose sentiments. plan be,ly be clear president obama says he is a christian i take him at his word.
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>> pivotç point, return to job plan. why not just say you believe he is a christian. we'll be counting on the saturday night live imitations for laughs along the way nbc david gregory caught up, and asked them for their in character pitch for the presidency. >> i go across this country, and i see so many happy, and unhappy, you know men and women and grant mothers -- >> let me take an applause break. >> how do you compete with this guy? i can buy the white house. i could flip it. >> take it. >> i still miss daryle hammonds doing bill clinton. yesterday we looked back at some of newt's greatest hits and
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messages. g where he hospitaled to kick off the final run for his presidency. >> i've been to about 100 foods. unbelievable, i never fully understood the speed -- >> so, that's what secret service call it, right? >> yeah, they used to have a t-rex at the smithsonian. >> that was newt going to the zoo, up next, the republicans vow to make president obama a ç failure. now they have started hatching their plan on the very day he took office. they had a dinner to plan his demise. [ laughs ] dad! [ laughs ] whoo! oh! you're up! oh!
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i'm milissa rehberger, the space shuttle enterprise made it's arrival today. it will soon float up the hudson river. >> george zimmerman raised more than $2 million via a website. and house republicans pass a verse of their bill to keep student loan rates from despite a veto threat from the white house. now back to "hardball." >> welcome back, if you thought republicans were plotting to kill the president's agenda, you're right. you have a group of house members and senators that met to start their planning hours after president obama was inaugurated in this city.
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a terrific new book at the 112th congress -- when speaker john boehner faced a revolt from members of his own party as he tried to compromise with president obama. the book is called "do not ask what good we do." the author is with us now. explain if you will, a couple things, start with the title. >> yeah, the title comes from one ofç the first federal congressman chris fisher from massachusetts. he was the author of the final language of the first amendment. after serving four terms in the house, he quit and discussed upset bipartisan factions, and he said do not ask what good we do, that is not a fair question in these days of faction. >> you talk about a meeting held by many top republicans
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includi includi including canter. you say the republicans agreed on a way forward. go after geithner, show unyielding opposition to the president's policies, attack them on the air waves, win the spear point of the house in 2010, win the white house and senate in 2012. you will remember this day, newt gingrich proclaimed to the others, the seeds of 2012 were sewn. that's grand eloquent, but this decision to destroy obama, how significant was that early decision? we, the republican leadership, we the republican right wing, we the tea partiers will destroy this president before he gets started. >> that meeting was called to
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drown their sorrows. but it evolved from guys sitting around feeling sorry for themselves, talking about what had gone wrong with the republican party, to strike that guising how to retake power. . and one person who was not there was the ranking head of the republicans in the house, john boehner. he was not invited because he and frank lutz didn't get along. in the course of this, they decided he had a popularity -- a lot of those guys had gone to the inauguration and seen the 1.8 million people at the mall, but he decided to go off his legislative agenda, to vote in unity, vote unanimously against the stimulus, to attack his cabinet members, and to attack every freshman democrat and others with the intent then of regaining the house using that as the spear point.
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>> gene, there is something about this that seems for all of the attack on president obama as being european, this is very european. this discipline, like the british labor party. they all vote in lock step. they don't wear uniforms but they act like that do. we destroy the other party. >> right, that's why the body of power in britain gets to do what they want to do. that's why i find it so fascinating. how do they enforce this discipline? you spend time on capitol hill, and the idea that you can get unity on a caucus thatyjz member has a special reason why they have to buck the leadership and vote a different way -- they didn't -- that didn't happen this time. they managed -- >> let me ask you about boehner,
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he grew up and deals with compromise, he is willing to accept that the goal is to overgovernor the counove govern the woun try. >> that's an acute point, as speaker boehner would say, i take him at his word that he wants to legislature, but he became speaker because of the freshman that came in on a tea par party wave. i didn't come to washington to join a team, he came to represent his constituents and a lot of others believe that there was too much spending, obama care needed to be rolled back, and that's where they planted their flag. it was not finding a way to --
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>> i'm going to make a statement here, it's all nonsense, you can't just vote against spending. most of is it in the entitlement programs and it grows with people getting older, sicker, and they grow naturally. the trick is to pass changes, modifications, and restrants, and the only way to do that is to get a deal from the other side of the isle. if you just çstlit, government keeps getting bigger spop this is a lie to say we tea partiers won't vote for more spending. unless you get a deal and raid raise a little revenue, the government will keep going. i don't think they know that. >> to give the republicans their due, they passed the ryan budget plan, and they didn't -- >> they didn't do anything. that didn't reduce the size of government. >> what it addressed was entitlement reform. >> so it didn't get done.
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>> well, that's -- >> so the tea partiers got nothing done. eugene, if you want to cut spending, both sides have to agree, the president has to sign it, and you have to compromise or you're just protesting. >> do you want policy or an issue? if they want an issue, they want to make a stand. and so in that sense, the way that the tea party freshman have been voting is a protest. it's a statement rather than an actual honest attempt to enact policy. because they know, they know that and they know what they want will not happen. >> i don't think people should be paid $170,000 a year to hold a placard in the air. they get fed, and all they do is hold placards in the air. the book is called "conot ask
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what good we çdo" thank you, coming up on monday, former pennsylvania governor ed rendell will be on the show. we will talk about the clintons and how big bill is paving the way for a possible run, beginning to look like a plausible run for nukt four years from now. coming up, comedy and washington don't us mix, but tomorrow night's correspondents' dinner is the exception. need any help?
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i worked at the colorado springs mail processing plant for 22 years. we processed on a given day about a million pieces of mail. checks, newspapers, bills. a lot of people get their medications only through the mail. small businesses depend on this processing plant. they want to shut down 3000 post offices, cut 100,000 jobs. they're gonna be putting people out of work everywhere. the american people depend on the postal service. ç others say that i'm arrogant, but i found a really
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great self help tool for this -- my poll numbers. >> wow, we're back, that was president obama poking fun correspondence. it brings a journalists and hollywood celebrities to the capitol here. this will be held tomorrow night. you can watch it right here on msnbc. up until six months ago john lovet was the speech writer for president obama. he's now working as a comedy writer. congratulations. you got a lot of nerve to be doing that. we have to look at a couple of them. let's take a look at the president's jokes from last year's without saying who wrote them. president obama released his long form birth certificate putting a lid on the birther movement for most and providing prime fodder for the following saturday's speech. >> my fellow americans. tonight for the first time i am
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releasing my official birth video. ♪ ♪ circle of life >> call disney if you don't believe me. they have the original long form version. >> now, this is the richest thing i've ever seen. here he is sticking it to the guy that's theç ledding birthe at the time because no one tried to ride the discredit birther movement harder than donald trump. he didn't get mad. he got even. watch the reaction from donald. >> no one is happier. no one is prouder to put this birth certificate rest than donald. that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the
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issues that matter. seriously, just recently in an episode of celebrity apprentice, at the steak house, the men's cooking team did not impress the judges for omaha steaks. there was a lot of blame to go around but you mr. trump recognized the problem was lack of leadership and you didn't blame little john or meatloaf. you fired gary busey. these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up at night. >> i'm watching trump. he can't stand it. he's being shown up with this slow build up to you're a horses, ass which is erasing this issue. that's your characterization of what you said. >> what is your characterization? >> i think we got him pretty
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well. >> tell me about the jokes and how you work these things up. >> we meet. there'sç a few of us. we get together and start talking about topics. the president will have ideas about the things he wants to talk about. we get a list of the things we want to make fun and the things we want to make fun of about ourselves. the president is not afraid to poke fun at himself. i think you have to do that if you're going to make fun of a lot of other people too. >> how important is it when he has a good night? does he gets stakes if he has a flat night? >> i don't know how much things like this matter on the night in the sense that presidents have had good nights and bad nights. what can really matter is if do you a great job and make some points that are important.
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i think that there's always room for a good joke that makes a substantive argument that will breakthrough in a way that a dry policy speech, not that the president gives those, would ever breakthrough. >> the thing is that the great president's like roosevelt and kennedy and reagan were always really good at this. they used it like the president then will trump to win the fight with their rivals. >> i think this president does that too. he's often used humor on the trail and in the white house to make a point here. >> i respect you a lot for what you've done but most importantly trying to make it in hollywood as aç writer. go rick. i told you i'd do. let me finish with why the subversive influence of angry right wing is bad for the country. he national math and science initiative... ...which helped students and teachers
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let me finish with this. i fear, i really do the evil influence of big bad money in politics. democracy isn't a joke. when a few guys with billions of dollars or influence with big money people with throw enormous amounts of money into a political race they can destroy democracy. think about what a dump of a million dollars in tv advertising can do to race for congress somewhere. all of a sudden the air waves are saturated with negative tv
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ads. they're all over the place. you can't escape the relentless nasty assault on some candidate. think this doesn't matter? good luck. just imagine someone out there saying what a bad person you are. telling everybody you know what a bad person you know. imagine someone buying tens of millions of dollars buying tv time to tell how evil you are. not everything pays attention to these topics. some hard working people haveç time to check in around election time. what do they see? endless streams about a guy that once thought was okay. i don't know how we're going to loif with this stuff. we still call ourself ourselves a democracy out there. i don't know when the supreme