obvious to someone as astute as yourself, is that not shared by so many policymakers who say that what european economies have done is exactly what we should be doing here? >> because our politicians don't make policy or evaluate math or even look at the contextual relationship of our variable economy, but instead they just come up with some sort of pandering nonsense they can cater to the eight voters that even show up so they can save money from the 96 people that show up from the elections and they retain all the power so it doesn't really matter. >> that's a terribly depressing thought. >> it's not depressing. it means you identified all the power. you've got 10% of the people picking all the candidates, and you have to deal with that. you deal with those two things and now you're chopping wood. now you're popping popcorn, martin. >> okay, dylan, you only have a

few months before the presidential election to do it, so do it. >> i don't have anything. this is a collective challenge that we face that will be transce transcendent to this little episode. >> dylan, we've already taken a minute of your broadcast. we have six seconds. get it on! >> all right. nice to be seeing you. thank you for joining us. good monday afternoon to you. i'm dylan ratigan. beautiful spring day. it's beautiful. you got deepak chopur today. we start with a look at our own security first, summer, of

course, right around the corner which puts a rather dangerous strain as it always does on an outdated power grid that hasn't been updated since the eisenhower, which is the topic in d.c. due for a national solar storm which is a risk to knock out the national solar grid. we got a brief taste of the blackout. there wasn't a lot of crime, people enjoyed themselves, although nobody, i don't think, would prefer it. a couple days of blackout in 2003 lasted a couple days and that one won by just using the air conditioner. it took a massive solar storm 92 seconds to knock the entire grid off line. since canada's systems work more

efficiently than ours, they were back up within a few hours. ours would not have that same level of redundancy, which we'll talk about. they also warned terrorists could disrupt the power grid. the russians, in fact, developed similar -- the name of the agency accused of ignoring these agencies is the north american electric reliability corporation, referred to as nerc. critics say that nerc -- surprise, surprise -- is ignoring or covering up our grid's vulnerabilities to protect the power companies that would be burdened with expenses of upgrading the power grid. the whole money in politics thing, you know how it is. look no further than 300 g's

that they point to with evidence for the conflict that, they say, does not deal with these issues. lieutenant anthony schaefer, senior national adviser to that task force. chris, what's the risk -- i shouldn't say that. i outline the risk. what is the probability and what is the ability to assess the probability that this risk would occur? >> thank you, dylan. the difficulty is that these are -- an ooernt like this. so as opposed to something like a hurricane. . we an event like this that maybe happens once in every 100 years, so there isn't an accurate set of data to know when we can predict another one coming.

we know it is in. it is just a question of ours, and we taught to be the provider for every. the compelling reason to deal wi with, smart management, all the things that exist, there was not any reason to do this before the solar system knocked things off line. is there any reason to think that a potential southerly storm is going to be a come pulgs for our goth to act than any other reason that they've been ignoring for the past 50 years. >> they pulled us by season. god bless joe mclel an. as you pointed out, dylan,

gener general. the grid is going to be replaced over the next 30 years. get this, though. as they build replacements, they want instability. and that's a problem here. this is what is we're seeing. >>. this is why it's not. the. we have to look into what's best pho the country, not whaes best for the tri. >> how much credence do you put in the indictments of the regulatory agency for, and how scliktd bubl the. ls a conflict there, there's

definitely a struggle and the struggle is do something that protects the grid, but you don't want to have a negative economic impact and you don't want to have an accidental negative impact where the worse. so there be, you think trying to downplay the problem or hope for the roseiest snare row is not the bay. . >> what ferg was doing was a step in the right direction, and we've both heard some of that agreement was even today starting to. the next step that many p sfr

an, when you have one with unchanged variables, it would seem that the characteristic would be a high cover. that may be what materialized in our. ov overin the event that the snart yoe you plan for isn't the one that materializes. am i missing something? >> caller: we have a volcano that's destined to sfal. they're doing the west in their planet. think what it goes with big hit, we have so final poring in, le.

we always look to the military when something goes wrong. every military installation today in america. if we generators are defeated, are blown up, and they may not be replaced for weeks or months. >> he did get a response from the from. . worker is tong to in ah it. the guy who was ahead in drukz. we have to get them. >> this is the bottom line, dylan. we've known the effect, this is

well documented. the epa protection documented this back in 1990. we have not gone barred. it's time to start acting. 10% in the infrastructure would lead to 40 or 50% in the recovery. we've got to do something. >> i'm sorry, chris, i ran the clock. thank you for educating us and for zoor. >> coming up here a the d.r., but sdil to because it's plus, the american str. and a couple awesome guests. deepak chopur with a wake-up call for all of us, and famed guitarist and political activist tom marello.

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some stunning statistics out today about the cost of america's expanding waistlines. obesity now accounts for $190 billion. that is 20% of all of our health care spending dollars nearly double the previous estimate, and by other estimates when you look, these numbers explode into everything from heart disease to cancer. the costs, of course, they say are absorbed primarily bit non-obese in the form of higher

insurance premiums. in fact, we as a nation now spend more on health care related to weight than we do on health care relayeded to smoking. experts worry that these will become the majority. the vast amount of health care is paid for by the taxpayer already. tim carney occasionally waiting next to her on camera. sam speeder. is there any way where the obesity epidemic becomes in some fashion a partisan issue? >> it already has. right now the plan for the republican house to make up for the funding on continuing the lower rates to the stafford loans comes exactly from a fund in the affordable care act which is specifically set up for

preventative care to help deal with these issues. >> i'm thinking they may be less partisan. >> you asked the question ask that -- and that's the reality of it. >> yes, and i agree with that. but there is another reality which is the incredible subsidies that we provide in this basis. . we make sugar -- the cheap food, and we make the non, and which makes me think that i've gone crazy because whoever heard of a company that raises toxicity to its raising and often there is

rig right/left, and people who come for corn subsidies. there is a big white iron on the left the more that you move personal health care spending and health insurance premiums into the government's fear which is that we. so if you were buying many improvement in. >> you're absolutely right. the best. brit tain has never been healthier before '0.

eat three meals a day and aun. now, obviously you're not going to have a unanimousty stay in that situation again. you have a public health care catastrophe, this is proper union and bipartisan. >> i loik the way she says by saturd saturday. we're beyond that. the actual medical spending, the actual cost of an obese. the average american who is not obese is $512. the money is being transferred from the people paying the 500, and the question is what will

the social be? we need to stop subsidizing the poisons. >> i think we can agree on that. remember the world 7-3 and becomes where tim and i for that donut. there is no way to escape that. en. we're now on the precipice of the health care discussion, which i don't want him bag away. >>. . >> guess we to increase the price of to nuts.

a and in a world riddleed with two sets of rules, an opaque government and krus tragt muggings in. tomorrow, may 1st, is international workers day. hour next is, maybe thousands, of take part in occupy guitarmy. it's a free concert meets protests meets activation of a summer of campaigning, even if campaigns is critically for the people who mark against. that theme. it runs right through our synnex

guest's music is at of his rockument rockumentar. these guitar makers in sole girl. we're unionized and we're lou with the jobs. the factory now moved to zchlt. when it is released tomorrow it will be available custom in. >> thapgs very much. thanks for having me. >> what's the point of tomorrow? what is the lopes saj. >> well, tomorrow i'm going to be leading the guitar many

springtime soefr, it time for the regular season. so the economic malfeasance from. it caused millions of families so much hard wip. it's. pult approximate. it's going ab a beautiful day in new york city tomorrow. basically i'm starting a new band. >> what's the biggest band you ever player. if you don't have a guitar, bring a kazuo. we're going to track tunnel blids all those. just bring any instrument, it can be a gi tarl from tr srs.

to respond what you saw in serving. >> for the last two decade, i've been standing up for the underdog. really, the one thang that remitdly teacher in illinois for over 30 years, and when the. i don't really choose to be a railroad, and it's been my job throughout the year to use my vocati vocation. you can't arrest a song. >> you say that and it seeds directly to my use and a lot of

occasional. there is a magic that you are capable of when you use music that resonates with people in a way that words and litsds. . no progressive has kwis. that product will not be shl a song can be sung again and again and kben. there's something about the combination of rhyme, rhythm and solidarity and a large number of people singing a song together that helps steel their spines for the economic struggle and puts wind in the sails of social justice movements. >> you are a wonderful leader for the movement. it's a pleasure to have you here. congrats on the day.

bring any musical instrument you want. rehearsals from noon to 2:00. there's the band leader right there, and if you're looking for a taste of tom's music, look no further as he'll be performing this song with ben harper on "late night with jimmy fallon." ♪ >> if you want more information, tom morello, the nightwatchman is up there. as we continue to look for the solution to the failed economic crisis. (spoken in mandarin)

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if only the metaphor was a giant leap. heads of the mafia families coming together to protect the common interests there. according to our specialist, this is precisely how the largest financial institutions in the west have functioned, as crime syndicates effectively protecting their turf at the expense of all the other people, but also the other banks. the banks' complaints, the big five, are now about two times as big as they were a decade ago, and meaningfully larger than they were in 2008. at the same time, ordinary

americans are paying the price in the form of prolonged unemployment. record use of food stamps, mostly in what used to be middle class families, the skyrocketing national debt and unemployment, and all of it certainly to be resolved through the lens of deficit reduction rather than financial reform and growth? bizarre. joining us now is dennis keller, president and ceo of better markets which is trying to shift the economic crisis to the root of the financial dysfunction and the understanding that the balance of these issues are symptomatic of an underlying massive distortion in the financial functionality. what do you see as the base on resolved distortion, dennis, and how does that lead to all of the symptoms, from unemployment to capital distortion and all the rest of it? how do you connect those dots? >> the key is the too big to

fail banks that basically occupy wall street, no pun intended. the five biggest banks, as the graphic just showed, controlled trillions and trillions of assets, and therefore, they are at the center of the financial system and they can't be allowed to fail because as almost happened in '08, they would take down not just our financial system, they would take down the entire economy. it's really quite remarkable that an industry in the history of the entire country actually has the ability to threaten the economic well-being in this country, which is why in '08, trillions and trillions of dollars, taxpayer dollars and u.s. dollars from the fed and elsewhere were deployed to rescue not just the banks but the financial issues they threatened and also the economy. not only do we have massive unemployment still in this country, we have a significantly high underemployment and we have

long-term underemployment and people have been discouraged looking in history. on top of that, you have to get behind numbers to really look at the human cost, and today's front page of usa today has just a hint added to the story where police tie domestic violence in the economy. incidents rise after the financial collapse. and that's to show the human face of the wreckage inflicted by primarily the biggest banks on wall street throughout this country from home foreclosures to unemployment to increased domestic violence and alcohol and drug abuse. the effects are going to be felt for generations, and worst of all, for generations those are the people who are going to be paying the bill for the wall street wilding that caused the crisis. >> and beyond that, the very process of wilding that you refer to is still as much as ever in place. in fact, the market has grown by a hundred trillion dollars since 2008, and this is one of the

ones that is the most profoundly frustrating and horrifying to talk about because it is really determinative to everything else. in england there has been more potency in the recession. >> and now we have a double dip. >> the response to banks is not austerity. the response to big banks is breaking them up. >> front page of the financial times this morning, and i was wondering if you could talk about that a bit more right now. it talked about how global banks were busy interfering with the jobs act, which is there to protect small businesses. it seemed like a financial disgrace, so perhaps you could talk a bit more about that. >> you're exactly right. it's a very telling story on the front page of the financial

times and everybody should read it, because what it really says is you've got the biggest banks in the world trying to block financial reforms and other changes that actually help smaller and medium sized banks provide greater lending to the economy and to the country. not just in the u.k., but all over. and the last thing, of course, the thing that big banks want is. they get special subsidies from the government, the. and then on top of that, what they're doing is they reach out, not unlike the graphic that began this piece, they reach out like the other families and ruthlessly protect their turf and their products. and it's time the countries, not only the united states, but even europe vigorously protect themselves against these banks?

why is it that 9% of banks in the world, and in many ways are victimized, the biggest of the bond. the wall street dom narts need to be out of control. it showed you how those big banks and focused on ways to get rid of and hurl small banks and that means to the economy. >> i'm really glad you brought up the jobs act, and that is about drrks imposing a deregulation that would not allow our dodd frank, how dad and frank both have their staffers i'm had it from the obama treasury department and the. once this law gets and they hire up the colleagues while the

goose is getting. not just watering down parts that will hurt them, keeping the strength in their competitors. one thing i wonder about you is, are you also the liberal mindset that at times seems more government is the answer and showing hows protecting the bigger banks and hurting the economy. >> we're non-partisan and nothing proves that better than the fact that we're an equal opportunity critic. we are clearly not endiedre to either party and we'll criticize wall street. you're right, and one of the big problems turned around, and the eupmih. and work with lobbyists basically to get around or gut

the very rules they were just involved in. i will say at or the senate banking committee under chairman dodd is our chief and for the public interest coming out of those places. we don't just look at whether it's a liberal or conservative policy, or pro bank or anti-bank. what we do is focus on the public interest. the public interest, it's hard to deny -- is not in vag bix to the taxpayer and it would show the world that you would have an industry, and in particular, a very small concentrated part of that industry that can literally take it all down. we need strong regulations. it's not a liberal or kesh active thing. we need to protect the country and treasury and a

>> i have -- yes. after a few years of saying that one way or the other, dennis, and all the rest, i mean, along with a lot of other folks, if nothing else, it bears repeating until it's fixed, is the fact of the matter, and we appreciate your efforts to republicing of. the ability to actually. you know. dennis runs the place. which you can it out obviously. >> it was. we'll see some when we come back here, however, new york's new es

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our d.r. show, friend, neighbor and spiritual person deepak chopra is here to discuss his book. this is a remarkably practical book that you've put together and that you've asked people to present to you very common and frequently very difficult to resolve, very sometimes tragic, sometimes challenging situations and tried to offer them answers through the lens of what you call contracted awareness, expanded awareness or pure awareness. almost like three different settings on your own personal radio station when you deal with a given situation. explain to us the difference of these three different settings for yourself, if you will, and how it applies to the problems. >> contracted awareness is your awareness. feel separate from the ecosystem, the web of relationships around you. you feel fear, you feel

resentment, you feel anger, hostility, guilt, depression, shame, any of those things, and that, of course, influences your beliefs, perceptions, assumptions, expectations and your mood which is very primary in how you see the situation, so you're like somebody with a little matchstick in a dark room. you're trying to find your way and there's all this furniture and you're bumping. everything is a problem. expanded awareness, you feel a sense of connection. you have a flashlight, and everything that was a problem actually has a purpose. you can lie down on that couch, you can sit and watch tv, you can use the computer. all the things you perceived as problems are now actually opportunities to do something. great. and then there's the third level of awareness, which is pure awareness, which has no boundaries. you're in the same room, but the sun is flooding in, the windows are transparent, the world is

your playground. so expanded awareness solutions and awareness spontaneous evolutionary impulse of the universe. >> so then the ultimate question becomes -- >> how do i shift my life? >> yeah, how do you change the channel? >> how do you change the channel. the most sensitive thing is feeling, mood. so when you feel love, compassion, empathy, joy, he n equinamity, truth, beauty, harmony, you suddenly feel a shift in your mood. everything else, assumptions and solutions start to appear because all the things that you bring into a situation which are beliefs, assumptions, expectations will change. so you shift your mood first. you do that through a memory or even through a fantasy. but once you shift your mood, then you go to the next level. and, of course, the third level is when you transcend the

subject. when you and the observer become one, what we call the peak experience. >> so let's talk about this through the concept we were talking about earlier in the show, which was better markets in the five families of the banks. >> that's the darkness, right? you can fight the darkness. >> you can obsess over it, you can fight it. you can feel powerless. >> the more you fight it, the more helpless you feel. but here's a solution, you bypass the whole thing, speak to the consumer, support your local economy, support your local bank. you create a critical mass, and once the critical mass are through internet, through media, through social networks, once again that critical mass, obviously, the banks -- you're not investing for some guy on wall street and sitting there in idaho. you're supporting your own bank in your own village of your own town and your own local economy. that's a creative solution.

and you're connecting with your ecosystem. >> nelson mandela talked through this lens when he would talk about improving life in africa for people who lived in africa through the language of a second set of maps, that it is not for us to tear down the old maps. we need to go to war with the old system, but it is for us to seize the day to begin to collaborate. how universal is that? >> it's very universal. anger, resentment is like drinking poison and hoping it will kill your enemy. so even as he got into the residency, he took some people who were his antagonists, he did not want to alienate them, he brought them in and expanded them. >> the final question goes to

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hi, keli. nice to see you. >> nice to see you, dylan. this year the president was overshadowed by more dazzling stars in his orbit. i'm not referring to george clooney, i'm referring to his wife. michelle obama did what she has done since the beginning of the obama administration, upstaged her husband, something that is becoming more of a regular occurrence as the 2012 campaign gets under way. a just-released abc news "washington post" poll found the first lady to be the most popular political figure of any gender and any party in america.

69% of americans have a favorable opinion of her, meaning if her husband faced her in a presidential election, he would lose. think the hillary clinton's campaign in 2008, the possibility of another woman in the oval office someday does not seem too far fetched. and i actually think mrs. obama would make a stronger candidate than her husband for a variety of reasons. for starters, she has significant real life work experience, something her husband is criticized for lacking. she was a college professor before beginning in politics and she worked in city hall in the non-profit sector and later served as vice president in a hospital. when it comes to the real world, who would be stronger isn't even a contest. while his singing skills may have won him a few admirers, he's got nothing on her hula

hooping and dance skills. not only was she the bread winner for at least part of their marriage, meaning she was the one find ag way to stretch her paycheck to subsidize their bills and her husband's political ambitions, but she was involved in budgetary issues in ways that she was not. an article about the 2008 presidential race had al sharpton saying he wished then-candidate obama was more like his wife. there was something about the way she angled for the endorsement of her husband's candidacy that combined charm with toughness. the president has spent a lot of his first term being charming, but many would like to see him get tough. when asked last week if she would run for president someday, the first lady replied, absolutely not. but if she does, she has the early endorsement of a democrat, who has already dubbed herbert

than obama. the name of the admirer, president barack obama. dylan? >> how universal do you think that is? meaning, you know, it goes back to roosevelt. there's a cliche behind every great man is a great woman, but i want your opinion beyond this particular marriage. >> it is interesting. in her case there seems to be something awry here. her numbers seem to be higher than her predecessor. her numbers are higher than hillary clinton's ever were. check out tom marello where he will be launching the guitarmy if you're