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>> do you know how your structure is set up? >> yeah. >> a gang unit investigation turns up the heat on a pair of cellmates before one turns on the other. >> right now i am pissed off. >> and with the personal cameras we provide them. inmates share personal thoughts inside the privacy of their cells. >> i look like death warmed over. awe one . >> one, two, three, four. one, two, three, four. located on the florida panhandle, pensacola is home to the naval air station, the primary training base for many of america's top military aviators. and home to the legendary blue
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angels. >> aten-hut. right-left. forward march. >> 35 miles away, a military cadence pierces an otherwise quiet morning. >> up in the morning at the break of dawn. we are veterans standing strong. >> the marchers have all served time in the military but now the they're serving time at the santa rosa correctional institution one of the toughest maximum security prisons in the state of florida. >> don't come back in these blues. >> don't come back in these blues. >> these inmates are receiving extensive programming specific for veterans that will assist them upon their release from the department of corrections into society. >> you are doing a good job. >> thank you, sir. >> the goal of santa rosa's veterans program is to return a
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since of honor and responsibility to former servicemen whose lives have gotten off track. the veterans selected for the program, some of whom date back to vietnam must have clean disciplinary records and upcoming release states. >> report! >> we represent the color guard for the annex. we are responsible for the flag. >> prepare to raise the flag. >> the flagpole that we have it doesn't have a string on it, security reasons. the mirror that its behind us, it pretty much sums up what you would see if you actually watch us put the flag up. we take the pole down, hook the flag to it. when the flag is going back up, it just at a certain stage that you actually are looking at this. ♪ it brings back memories from, from better days.
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left, hut. order! forward. one, two, three, four. left-right, left. >> while these inmates were once warriors, staff here must meet the challenge of managing a very different type of fighting force. >> in the last decade we have had an increase in gang related offenses. the department of correction has a comprehensive security threat program within each institution. each institution has a security threat group coordinator assigned which keeps up with and tracks and monitors our gang activity within the facility which allows us to take proactive action against those members. >> security threat group coordinators -- >> wedogs, we
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get a scent of something and don't want to leave it. it is very critical some of the things we have to go there. when we go down there the inmates may call out our names. knight is here. demerey is here. >> you hear the toilets flus flushing. flushing contraband, marijuana, drugs, razor fwlblades. >> they don't like to see us coming. because the we arthur row. >> our next target. we will go to the dorm. we have a potential blood along with his roommate, coro -- roco moreno, iii. >> today's targeted inmates are alfredo roco moreno, and bobby sandier, serving ten years for robbery with a deadly weapon.
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the cellmates are held in nearby shower cells while knight and demerey inspect their cell. >> we have known to see these guys cut out a hole in the wall, cover it with toilet paper, toothpaste, a little dirt. make it look just like the side of the wall. and any seam could be a hole. been known to pull out cell phone shan sequesters and marijuana at one time in one hole. >> the cellmates are currently in the close management or cm uniit. a hype security wing for inmates with disciplinary violations. roco-moreno has been here for the past three years due to a total of 15 disciplinary writeups. >> what are you catching write ups for, the same thing over and over? >> for a cell phone. >> you had a cell phone? >> yeah, fighting a little bull [ bleep ] and then. >> what you get on cm for? >> possession of weapons. cm a couple months now.
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>> sandier is suspected of being a member of the bloods and some supporting evidence has just been found in his possessions. >> here h's what we came lookin for, five point star, number five. blood nation. 031 one of the blood coats. stop snitching, a worldwide picture shows dominance of the bloods throughout. >> who are you affiliated with? >> i refuse to answer your question. >> roco-moreno is known to be part of the port reian prison gang, niettas, they would look to find evidence of how active he is or, if he has any other affiliations. >> i am looking to see if the mattress has been altered. notorious for cutting holes anywhere along the seam or the side. stuffing it with contraband. and sew their contraband back up in the mattress. >> here we have a spot.
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that just shows you right there. let's take this one out. this came off the bottom, right? >> right. >> most likely going to be batteries. >> in this case, it is going to bow a cigarette lighter. which is an indication we are probably going to find some tobacco in this guy's room. >> having a lighter is already a rule rye violation. but with his past history it could have even more serious consequences. coming up -- >> when we want in -- i ask questions you don't answer. >> task interrogate, roco-moreno and bobby sandier and take their search for contraband to the next level. ♪ if loving you is wrong
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>> i look like death warmed over. with the beard and everything. i actually look like i am about 50 years old. which i am. to outside world. i like to look out the window a lot. there is a helicopter school close to here for the coast guard and a lot of really cool helicopters fly over. i look to see that. and this is the most security conscious place i have ever seen in my life. they do not [ bleep ] around on security here. >> housing some of florida's most dangerous inmates the santa rosea correctional institution, operates under strict guidelines much like the military bases in nearby pensacola. those guidelines even extend to inmate haircuts. >> out has to be one length cannot touch any portion of the
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collar or ear. you can't cut no kind of designs or anything into your hair, anything like that. any exotic hair style or anything like that. it has to be all one length. >> the barber shop is staffed by inmates. and one of them is responsible for making sure the clippers always remain sharp. >> i'm the basher maintenance inma inmate. we maintain and take care of the clippers. >> i was an iron worker. bridges, commercial buildings, power plants. >> because some barber tools can be turned into weapons, only trusted inmates are allowed to work in the repair shop. >> i go through an interview process and make sure i pick an inmate that has got trust worthiness to him and mechanical skills, and he knows if he does something wrong, he'll lose a good job. >> officer barnes's any trust only goes so far. >> i maintain a visual on him at
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all times. we in ventory the box on a daily basis make sure all screwdrivers, used as a tool is there, not altered. he has done a good job. probably work foed for me for f months now. he worked out pretty well. >> i believe that will cut now, sir. >> let's see it. >> who'll john smith might be one of the more trusted inmates at santa rosa. another portion of the population is always on stach's radar. security threat coordinators, knight and demerey, gather intelligence on prison gangs. during a cell search of inmates. bobby sandusky and roco-moreno. >> what does that say?
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>> blood over -- >> okay. you done? >> yep. >> sandusky. have a seat. we have already determine you'd are a blood? which set are you? >> no particular set. >> when did you join? >> that's something i can't answer. >> where did you join? >> miami, florida. >> how did you become involved? >> i won't answer that one. >> why did you become involved? >> no answer. >> have you gained anything? >> i won't answer. >> sishgs yaw >> you just a blood from miami. >> are you going to answer any of these questions? any of them at all? >> look, look, let's dupe this. okay. seeing you don't want to answer no questions. will did you draw this? >> you drew this? >> i can't answer. >> you understand, a five star.
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>> it is nothing violent or anything look that. >> but you are a blood. >> we are trying to figure out what set you are. doesn't really matter what set i am in. if i am a blood i am a blood. >> i will put you in the right set. this is for classification know where you are, who you are, so they won't put you with somebody else that wit take you out, put you with a bad roommate. >> i guess you can put, byrd gang down. >> byrd gang. is that what you are? why didn't you tell us in the first place? >> little bit of cooperation is be better than none. >> during the search, the officers find a lighter found in the mattress of sandier's cellmate of roco-moreno. >> ncorrectional officers now want to take a closer look act the mattress.
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>> we have to break this whole mattress down. regulations require that security check mattresses when they're brought in like this. lieutenant? this was the area that was concerned, right? >> yes. >> roco-moreno is a known member of a puerto rican prison gang, called the nielletas, he joined during a prison sentence he served in puerto rico. but he insists, the nichlty are gang. >> it was a word from the warriors. that's what w it means the birt of a new warrior.
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>> roca-moreno said that inmates band together as nielletas in prison. >> that's what we fight for. health care that is not good. that's what we fight for. the toilets. the high jenable. nay want to laubl us as a gang. -- they want to label us as a game. that's what i told you earlier. unity is power. >> while no other contraband was found in the mattress, the lighter could still carry a serious consequence for roca-moreno, the extension of a visitation suspension. >> why were you suspended? >> different violations. i had just gotten it back. i got caught with a cell phone. they came and took my visitation back. i got to calm down. get on cm. been on cm for three years.
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right now i haven't seen my fami family in four years. when i go to sleep at 10:00, 11:00. that's what i think about. that's all i really got. your families are the ones that are going to be there. >> it will now be up to administrators to determine he will have his visitation restored. in the meantime, officers will now update their photos of roca-morenos's tattoos and question him about his ties to the nielletas. >> what do they call you, roca? >> alfredo. >> come on now. what do the other guys call you around here? >> alfredo. >> what's your a.k., your nickname? going to be one of them? >> one of what? >> i ask questions you don't
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answer? >> yep. [ inaudible ] >> that's all we do, we do gang investigation. gang interviews. the. >> you were on our list. >> i'm not in a gang. >> i see your tattoos. >> give me the other leg, all right. >> it is not the same thing. hold it right here. >> we're not in puerto rico. we ain't in santa rosa, california, either. >> that's what i'm saying. >> come over here and have a seat. if you are through with him? >> i am. >> have a seat. >> how did you become involved? why did you become involved? >> i ain't got no choice. >> you always have a choice.
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you got to be something? what role or rank did you have? is that no answer or you didn't have any? you were just a soldier. have you recruited or sponsored anybody? >> no, that's against the law. >> how do you prove your loyalty to being accepted? >> i'm just being me. >> i mean how did you come into it, by birth, by being beat in, what? >> see, that's what you don't understand. it's not a gang. you don't get beat up. >> you are saying anybody scan be a member of the gang? any body that is not a puerto rican can be a member of the gang? >> as long as you ain't a snitch, child molester or raper, you are good. >> you just asked me to be put in. that itss a new one. who is the leaders of your
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group? >> it's florida. there ain't no leaders here. leaders are in puerto rico. >> who are the leaders of your group? [ inaudible ] >> do you know how your structure is set up, rank structure? >> yep. off awe can you tell . >> can you tell me? >> no. >> anything else you want to ask, answer, add. thank you for your cooperation. >> coming up -- >> i turn. i aim. i fire. he was 6 years old. >> a veteran inmate still suffers from an act of war. and later -- >> you can plead guilty, not guilty or no contest. >> alfredo roca-moreno, faces authorities over the lighter found in his mattress. ♪ but, it turns out all i was missing was miracle-gro potting mix. it's got what a plant needs. even plant food that feeds them for up to 6 months.
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veterans' program. >> what we need to continue to focus on is looking good. and we can't look good if we are fighting against one another. we cannot win the war. okay. any questions? we need to get up and go to -- what? >> chow! >> chow! >> take it home, sarge. take it home. >> these guys have been a part of the military. so when it comes to discipline and organization they're a step ahead of regular general population because they're used to being punctual, being places where they're suppose to be they go through leadership courses and they go through courses of discipline. >> 47, 1015, 51 dining hall, 4-7. get a step at. >> it is pretty quiet. i like that. it kind of helps.
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a lot of us have been through war, shell shock. some of us have problems with quick sound. bangs, yada-yada. i kind of have -- i guess psychological problems if you will. and i guess the mental stress. so. >> twaun stallworth serving a one year sentence for cocaine possession is haunted by a combat experience during the battle to free kuwait. he says he once saw a friend blown up by a woman and child who were concealing explosives. moments later he saw nother child running toward him. >> i didn't know what to do. but i turned aimed and i fired. he was 6 years old. i didn't kill him. i did injure him -- his leg.
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that's one of the thing that bothers me because that was somebody's kid. it kind of, wasn't -- wasn't trying to hurt me. and it, it unfortunately, i have unfortunately had a dream that it was my son that was i was shooting. >> straaw >> stallworth presents a great front. underlying that he continues with anxiety and stress, use three or four times a week. he still continues with nightmares and some flashback tie it of things going on. so these are things that we are trying to address with his medications to help him gather coping skills. >> when i am not on medication i make bad moves. i have no inhibitions. i don't care.
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i have a temper anyway. but without the medication, like i say, i would be dr. jekyll and mr. hyde. >> coming up -- >> i guess, sir. >> alfredo roca-moreno argues his case. >> everything that was tooken from me is right there. but it never says nothing abut no lighter. snapshot, and 30 days later, i was saving big on car insurance. i was worried it would be hard to install. but it's really easy. the better i drive, the more i save. i wish our company had something this cool. yeah. you're not... filming this, are you? aw! camera shy. snapshot from progressive. plug into the savings you deserve with snapshot from progressive.
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two, left, two. awe all rig . >> all right, y'all hold it down. if you stop talking and get up here we'll go to chow. >> we structure everything like the military. and we look to have everybody do the same thing all together. and they stay in scum pcompliann they do that. >> if you got your hand in your pocket, you're wrong. if you got your hands in your jacket, you're wrong. >> we make them walk a line, we have consistency. if everybody is walking in a straight line it makes our job a lot easier. y'all take your hand out of your pockets. >> while florida's santa rosa correctional institution can be mistaken for boot camp it's not only the inmates who march in formation. >> one! two!
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three! >> every two months, the rapid response teams from santa rosa and three other state prisons come together for training. >> three, four, one, two, three, four. >> your left! >> a team come pritz epritz -- pritszed of officers to respond to any event, for riot control, disturbances or incidents of that nature. >> if we had air large-scale incident we would want to make sure that we had a complement of officers that could address that and we adopted some military mobile field force-type training and we feel that a platoon with munitions and batons and less lethal capabilities would be sufficient enough to handle a large scale incident which is why we have a platoon-type formations. >> platoon halt! >> not all problems at santa rosa require a platoon-style response. as one of the inmate workers has
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just discovered. >> so, where are you? >> in confinement. >> why? >> got caught with some weed. >> how about your job? >> probably lose my job. it's all part of the game. just because i'm doing time i'm not going to stop living. so, i hang out every chance i get. that's what convicts do. >> you hang out? >> have as much fun as possible. still live. >> john smith's fun has left his former supervisor short-handed. >> those type inmates are hard to come by, those mechanically inclined a lot of times especially for small tedious work like that. so it puts us una bind. but that is reality of prison life right there. >> alfredo roca-moreno's latest troubles, compounded by the
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discovery of a lighter inside his mattress and he has had numerous other disciplinary problems over the past few years. >> 15 of them, disrespect. manufacture of drugs, possession of narcotics. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> as a result, he has been in confinement and has had his visitation privileges suspended. today, he will face authorities to answer for the lighter and to find out if that suspension will be extended. >> you can plead guilty, not guilty or no contest. how do you plead? >> not guilty, sir. >> officer provide aid statement that 11:45 a.m. i was present in cell, when s knight found a cigarette lighter in the mattress assigned to roca-moreno. inmate roca-moreno admitted to me that the lighter was his. >> roca-moreno hopes that a procedural error will help him
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win his case. >> what do you want to tell the team? >> for chapter 33, any contraband taken out of my cell, i should receive a pink slip, stating which contraband was taken out of my cell. as you see they took my hygiene and everything that was taken from me its noted right there. but it never says nothing abut no lighter. so that is a procedural error right there, sir. >> photos were taken of the contraband. >> chapter 33, i didn't make chapter 33. doc made it. it states any contraband taken out of an inmate they should get a personal property slip for it. if you see that everything they took from me is noted right there, there is no lighter right there. >> anything else you want to tell us. >> that's all i got to say, sir. >> okay. step out for a moment. >> i think we have sufficient
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evidence to find him guilty. he does have 82 days, any time eligible for forefiture. we go with the 15 days dc. we can do that. 15 days, dc. okay. >> roca-moreno, step back in, please. inmate roca-moreno, based on the evidence presented to the team, the team did find you guilty. 15 days, disciplinary confinement, you have 15 days to appeal. the issue you raised, if you feel that is an issue you can raise that on a grove ans iieva. 15 days dc. you will get a copy of the finding late tire day. okay. we're done. >> alfredo hour, did it go? >> real [ bleep ]. >> why?
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>> i didn't make the rules. they made the rules. they can't go by the rules. they want me to go by the rules. you can't just bend the rules to your advantage. you got to go by the rules. i've been working so hard to get them. so that's the worst thang could do to me right now. >> the ruling against roca-moreno also means his visitation ban will continue until he is at least a year free of writeups. he will serve his 15 days of sdis palestinian ear confinement in solitude. his cellmate, bobby sandier will be moved to another cell. and roca-moreno says that is fine with him. >> because of his dumb -- [ bleep ] they would never came to my house. >> roca was like the best roommate i ever had. so i hate that. you know he had to -- he had to
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catch a dr and get time. >> but as officers move him, sandier has some concerns about his new cellmate. until they can sort things out, sandier is placed in a holding cell. >> i didn't try to make the job harder. i just don't want to put myself in the situation. >> what is the problem with the cell? >> the dude in 116 is a known psychological inmate. two dudes have moved out of his room because of altercations. i am fryitrying myself from fal into the same category i know me as an inmate i an not trying to set up for failure. >> i will check with your dorm lieutenant. check with him. see if that is an option. just hang out for me. >> it's hard moving into a room with an inmate that you don't really know. and heap have a history of, you know, altercations and situations with other room
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mates. so, to avoid that i just go about it the right way. right procedures you, know. and hopefully, you know, belttt o outcome will come out of it. sandier is moved to a single man cell until classification can find him another cell mate. >> delta roll, 3102. >> it is better than having to go in the cell with the other person. i am very appreciative of the officers being able to work with me. you know? you go about things the right way, you know, a positive outcome will come about. >> coming up, alfredo roca-moreno has a conflict with staff. >> what did he say? >> i don't know.
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>> i will tell you what, modern technology is something else. security, security, security. security screws. those are some big ones there, huh? there is some -- here is some other security screws. it's got a screw loose. i can't believe that. they haven't seen it yet. right there. this place is so secure, i mean, not being sarcastic, this is the most place secure you ever see.
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>> florida's santa rosa institution is a tightly run prison for 2,800 inmates many of whom are kidded among the state's most problematic. they're supervised by a small number of corrections officers usually armed with little more than pepper spray. >> boeing a correctional officer takes a special breed of individual. not everybody can dupe this job. you have to have a lot of courage. you have to have some excellent communication skills. you're supervising many times, 200, 300 inmates at a time by yourself. >> and now the prison is losing one of its key staff members. security threat group coordinator, james demerey is retiring. >> we are here to recognize officer james demerey today we want to thank you for your 14 years of dedication. you set an example for all of us to follow as a correctional officer here at santa rosa.
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it will be a great loss for us losing you wec. we wish you all the luck in the word. we envy you, being able to retire. we want to present you with this retirement award. it says retirement award, santa rosa corrections institution congratulates, james demerey, 14 years of service, and good luck with an enjoyable retirement. >> thank you, sir. >> congratulations, bud. [ applause ] >> i would look ike to say i re appreciate everybody, even officer knight. i am going to miss this. >> we have a good bond. we work real well together. we almost have a telepathy. when his replacement comes, i am hoping it is never going to be another officer demerey, hopefully we will get back into the same swing of things. be able to accomplish what officer demerey and i have been
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doing for the last six years. >> all right. >> take care. >> but not everyone at santa rosa hold the officers in such esteem. >> see that [ bleep ] raggedy [ bleep ] walking right there. [ bleep ] police. ain't nothing but a bunch of bitches. abuse their little power, treat them like [ bleep ] dogs. i be looking out of this [ bleep ], all day. [ bleep ], [ bleep ], [ bleep ], to do, [ bleep ]. >> alfredo roca-moreno serving three life sentence for murder and a member of the nielletas, a puerto rican prison gang has been on close management for the past three years. >> i ain't trying to die in here. believe it or not it is look my
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worst fear. die, then they bury me in the back of the prison. no. you going to bury me, bury me outside the gates. i don't want to be buried in prison and be forgotten. >> roca-moreno says he is already feeling forgotten. his numerous disciplinary problems have resulted in his visitation privileges being suspended for the past three years. >> [ bleep ] -- >> now officers recently found a lighter hidden in his mattress. which will prolong his sanctions. >> i got schooled because of that lighter. i'm fryitrying to do good. now a lighter is holding me here. i can't see my people just because of the lighter. >> [ bleep ] -- >> roca-moreno's frustration has recent recently caused him even more problems. he has just received another disciplinary report for kicking his door after a dispute with an officer. >> well, i told him get me out. that i was going to rec.
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supposed to go to rec. he said he wasn't going to talk me out. i started kicking the door. he started talking [ bleep ]. i started talking [ bleep ] back to him. i don't know, i was talking over him. i a bitch. >> with his recent setbacks, roca-moreno faces at least six more months before leaving close management and having his visits restored. john smith has also been in confinement since being caught in possession of marijuana. >> what's been going on since we last saw you? >> just sitting here drawing. watching the time go by. thinking about what i'm going to do with the rest of my life. >> smith hopes to some day make a living from his art skills, but admits he might have to break a few more prison rules to do so. >> going to be doing a lot of tattooing. i mean, you know, i know it's against the rules in here, but i got a mandatory sentence, so i'm
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pretty well looking at this time as like a skin school. i got all the skin in the world to work with. so, my total goal is to be a beast in the tattoo world by the time i get out. pretty much had nothing but time in here, so i cranked out quite a bit of art. i do have some that i can give you guys. >> okay. coming up -- >> that card last night says there's an angel watching over you. >> alfredo moreno can't win for losing. with walmart's choice premium steak. ♪ this is really good. like what i grew up with. only one out of five steaks is good enough to be called walmart choice premium beef. can i let you in on a secret? you're eating a walmart steak. no kidding. noooo! i promise. it's very tender. you could almost cut it with a fork. it is delicious!
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>> salute! >> at the end of each day, inmates participating in santa rosa's veterans program lower the flag. just as they raise it every morning. >> fall out. >> one of santa rosa's veterans is now just days away from returning to life on the outside. twuan stallworth has been treated for post traumatic stress disorder while serving a one-year sentence for cocaine possession. >> i have ten days left. every day i count down ten, nine, eight, by next friday, midnight, hopefully my ride will show up and i'll go ahead and get my folks to come pick me up.
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that way i don't have to wait till the next day. hurry up and get the hell out of here. >> stallworth's first priority is seeing his 3-year-old son. >> first thing i'm going to do when i get out is play with my little boy. i sent message that he's there at my grandmother's house, where i'm going to stay at for a little bit. so the first thing i'm going to do, say hey to grandma, get some sugar from grandma and then hopefully my son is awake, which i probably shouldn't be but he probably will be, i'm going to give him some love. >> reporter: stallworth is hardly alone when it comes to missing family. alfredo roca-moreno hasn't seen his in four years. >> damn, i want to go home so bad. i've been thinking of all the [ bleep ] time. i want to go home. i miss my [ bleep ] family.
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>> rock ka moreno had high hopes that his time in the close management confinement unit was about to end. he recently appealed the prison's decision to sanction him for having a lighter in his possession due to a procedural error in the report. and he won. but the victory came too late. >> you know what? you want to know something? i went for the lighter but i'm still here for kicking the door. i just found out yesterday. see if i wouldn't have kicked the door, if that [ bleep ] would let me go out that day, i probably could see my family in a few more months. but now, so i was thinking about that [ bleep ] and i was like -- but, if i did it a year clean, i could try to ask for permission so they could reinstate my visit. but since i got the prs, all that is out the window.
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got a cartoon that night. i show it to you, see. says there's an angel watching over you, but it's in spanish. i'm just going to read. keep you save and always light your way. for you are someone very special who means more than words can say. >> and who's that from? >> moms. >> it still might be months before roca-moreno sees his mother again. but with a life sentence, it will only be inside the walls of prison. >> think about it. you're going to die in prison. you can't even explain it, you know. and as days go by, they
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