night. you can check out my work at "the washington post" and follow me on twitter. now because you know exactly what you have done, it's time you went to prison. msnbc takes you into a world of chaos and danger. now the scenes you have never seen. lock up, raw. >> ladies and gentlemen, how are you all doing? hope you are enjoying this overcast cloudy day. >> catch that dove over there. >> they pride themselves as america's toughest jail. >> we don't have pillows so they use toilet pape rolled up in a sheet. >> we're found stories that rangeed from the unexpected.

>> my ears are an inch and when i'm done it will be three or four with tarantulas in my ears. >> what are did you do that you consider torture. >> ripped his teeth out. that's my favorite. >> at the center of a jail is one of america's most controversial figures. >> they hate the place. that's music to my ears. pafr when we decided to shoot in maricopa county in phoenix, arizona, we knew we were goinging to a place where most of america had heard about. a controversial jail with a controversial share, but our approach was to embed the crew for four months and spent a lot of time to tell the true story of america's toughest jail.

>> on any given day, there more than 9,000 or 10,000 people incarcerate and most have not been convicted of the crimes, but are on or awaiting trial. they are housed in six different facilities. >> i would describe maricopa county jail as no other jail i have ever seen before. first of all, the sheer volume of it is staggering. just walking in there and figuring out who is important and how the systems work, even how you get through the doors is a challenge. >> gr to the west gates. >> the maricopa county jail is the subject of more media attention than probably any other jail in america. in recent years, it's been due to the county's policies towards illegal immigrants. before that, much of the coverage centered on practices such as constructing an outdoor

facility with the tents. the striped uniforms and pink underwear inmates are required to wear and the chain gangs to maintenance work to bury the indigent. the man who has run the jail is sheriff joe. >> one of my philosophies is you should never live better in jail than you do on the outside. >> you purposefully want your jails to be tough, correct? >> i sure don't want it to be a hilton hotel like other prisons. it's almost rehabilitation and education and we have all that that nobody talks about. we used to punish our children and take away certain things from them. privileges. why can't we public people who committed crimes and take away their privileges? >> there is probably not another law enforcement figure in america that is famous or well

covered as sheriff joe. i had some idea about who he was before i went in. but when you meet him, it's a really interesting experience. >> what is this? a little introduction? >> he can sit down and talk with you for two hours straight and he could have done 20 hours straight. he is passionate about his position and about his beliefs. he likes to talk about it. >> why does your message resonate? you win your elections handly. >> i made a promise to the people that i will be a very active sheriff. i don't play golf. i don't fish. i have no hobbies. i just work 14 hours a day. then i am not afraid to talk to the media. >> people joke he never met a camera he didn't like, but he explained well to me how he didn't believe that was the case. he thought the opposite was

true. >> i didn't call you guys. you guys called us. i'm the publicity hound? you know why i'm talking to you? i am getting my message across. it won't be a fluff story or a nice story. that's okay. >> he really wants to talk about his policies and his beliefs. >> i took away their porno and their coffee and their salt. took away their cigarettes. i should be given the heart association award of the year. they hate pink. at least around here. you never give them a color they like. why would you give them things they like. they hate the place. that's music to my ears. by the way, all my inmates, i don't put them in the desert chopping rocks. i put them on the streets and they clean trash and save taxpayers money, but the real

reason since i can't hire hollywood actors, i use my inmates as actors. as seconds. because when the cars drive by, the mother and father with the kid in the kari hope they are saying see, honey, you do something wrong, you are going to be on that chain gang wearing pink underwear and striped uniforms. maybe that kid will never forget that. i don't run a cia operation in the jails you or anybody can go in the jails and talk to any inmate you want, let him say they hate me. i don't care. i have nothing to hide. . >> walking through the tend city which it what the jails are

known for. inmates living outdoors in the heat in these tents and i meet dustin crawford. >> i'm going to catch that dove and eat that. i would rip out his breast. i'm dead serious. >> one of the things that was interesting about dustin crawford is he had a unique take on one of sheriff joe's famous lines. >> the men and women are fighting for our country and living in tents and never committed a crime. i tell all the detractors to shut their mouth and don't keep criticizing our tent operation. >> dustin just returned from iraq and provided an interesting narrative. >> i was just in iraq week ago and it's easier than here. that sign right there ain't true. soldier dos eat steak and lobster on friday in iraq.

when you are in iraq, it sucks because you are in a combat zone, but when you are not, you are being treated like a [ bleep ] respectable soldier. you eat good and sleep with the proper equipment. you are taken care of as a humane person. even pows get treated well. these guys don't get fed good and there is rats running around and they wake you up every 30 minutes. no reason for it. >> my philosophy is make it tough so that the people that serve time learn a lesson. with the theory of maybe they will never come back. >> we don't have the electric fence out, do we? i go in the tents quite frequently. >> how are you doing? >> when we walk through with sheriff joe, one of the things that sticks out is his verbal jousting with the inmates. it's nonstop. they got something to say to him

and he's always got it right back at him. >> it's hot here? you got to come here in the summer. >> it's pretty amusing to watch. >> want me to run? >> it's not to me. it's up to the people and the voters. >> i will put you in charge of the religious program. >> joe for governor. >> spread it around. >> democratic ticket? >> democratic ticket? this guy is pretty sharp. you are not an imposter? >> the inmates have a funny thing where they both despite him, but he's got this celebrity status among them and they all want him to sign postcards for them and it's like an exciting moment in their day when sheriff joe comes down.

the spaghetti and meatballs? >> the judge many years ago said you have to have tv and never said what to show. i decide what to show. i am sure not going to show this series to them. so i show them the weather channel, the food channel, and c-span where they have to watch all these politicians. that's all they get. they are still getting television. >> one of the latest innovations was this idea of this what he called a chair. an exercise bike that would power the television. >> a lot of you guys are kind of fat. you need to lose weight. >> i've gained 20 pounds since i have been here. >> a lot of you guys need exercise. have you been on an exercise bike. can you do an hour in a shot.

an hour at a shot? okay. >> he wanted the inmates to ride this bike in order to have the privilege of watching tv. >> we are going to hook the chair up to the television. here. as you pump, you can watch television and we are going to let you watch anything you want. you are going to work for the television to lose weight and protect your heart. it's only right for you to be able to watch nbc or msnbc, all those. >> when sheriff joe described the idea to us, it seemed a little half baked. i wasn't sure he was going to get it off the ground. low and behold, sheriff joe has the exercise bike up and running. >> it's horrible. >> you have to be innovative. i didn't become sheriff to do

the same thing. you look at the prisons and they are all the same. the food is great. a riot once in a while. i have been doing this 18 years. where is all my riots? they riot everywhere. the pizza is old and they riot. the tv. look at all the riots across the nation. how come i don't have a riot? i had one in tent city in 1996. so if you have a shortage of officers, all my tough programs, 50% hate the sheriff. where is my riots? are they too weak to riot? how come they are not rioting? >> coming up -- >> i mix it with the jelly. regular jelly and kind of makes like a gel. >> mare cope inmates learn to make do. >> hairstyle complete. you have to wait for it to dry.

>>nothing at the care copa county jail is designed to bring comfort to the 9,000 inmates housed there. >> they either use extra blankets or toilet paper rolled up in a sheet. >> over the four months we shot lock up extended stay, we heard more complaints about the food than anything else. >> we need hot wings and greens and all the good things. this would make me go crazy. goat hurding people. >> many of the inmates came up with their own culinary concaulks using snacked performed from the com sear. micah butterfield who was serving six months for possession of methamphetamine showed us her recipe for corn nut menudo.

>> corn nuts and water and let them soak. then you add hot jalapeno cheese. it's like i'm on a cooking show. then you take hot spicy pork rides and add it all together. once it's wet, you eat it and it's hot. spicy. that's menudo. looks nasty, huh? >> while it was a noble effort, i don't think this won anybody on the crew over. she was trying to do her best with the tools available at the time. >> the same is true when it came to female inmates and make up. while a few items can be performed from the com sear, most choose to save the monoeye

make up and create their own. colored pencils were a popular alternative. inmate susan took things to a whole new level. >> all women have a morning ritual on how they put themselvesing to to look their best. i thought it was interesting how susan would do her hair in the morning. she would mix a packet of gel we cocoa butter and put it in her hair as hair gel. >> i use the lotion and mix it with the jelly. regular jelly packets we get for 20 seconds each. a lot cheaper than the gel. i mix it with the lotion and put the gelly in with the lotion. i rub my hands and it's really messy, but it's worth it it. makes like a gel. >> i know women need avocado and

things like that, but to take grape gely and put it in your hair was really, really surprising. >> just like any gel, you have to skrunch. it's starting to get sticky so i know it's working. >> for she laughed, we have nothing else to use. to be honest, my hair smells good and i enjoyed this. this is after i get out of here. >> i take it and skrunch off the extra gely and lotion. it helps it dry faster. >> her hair did smell really good. >> hairstyle complete. just have to wait for it to dry. >> so many things you take for granted when you are on the outside and those things are such valued commodities within the jail. for joe watson, what meant more to him than anything else was

lead for his pencils. >> these are probably the most valuable things in here to me. pencils. i spend most of my time writing more than anything else. >> he was acting as his own lawyer in an attempt to avoid a maximum sentence after being convicted for a series of armed robberies. >> i have to write motions and letters. these are like gold to me. we don't get them often. we get them once a week or if i find a generous officer, he will give to me. they are very small. little golf pencils and they get dull very quickly. we have to come up with ways to correct those problems. we can either maybe use a razor blade that somebody has to sharpen it up or go under the seat and spent about 20 minutes scratching back and forth. >> they are ingenious about creating something out of very

little. joe would make these home meat mechanical pencils. quite a genius if you think about it. >> you take a couple of pencils in a bottle of water and you let them sit there and that softens up the wood so you can split it apart and take the lead out. after it has been sitting there for a couple of days, you split them down the middle. youent up with something like this. you split it apart and inside it your lead. you take a full thing of lead like this and you have your mechanical pencil already. i have one here. you can push it from the back out and there i have my pencil. when i need more lead, i press it up like that. we use emery boards to sharpen it and this makes it longer with a better grip. there is your pencil. >> you have to soak pencils in water to do your legal briefs

and you are going up against a prosecutor who has probably six pcs in his office. >> it's a little bit of a disadvantage, but you know, when i win, i will have a hard earned victory. i hope. >> watson's pencil defense did have some success. his prosecutor wanted 25 years. he was eventually sentenced to 12, with good behavior and time served, he will be eligible for release in 7 1/2 years. coming up, one of the most colorful inmates at maricopa. >> this one of my daurchlt the reason why i'm here. >> later one of the most feared. >> she is the one in this whole jail who creeps me out. >> rest assured if someone kill it, they had a reason to kill it. you need to be looking at the

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> the maricopa county jail in

phoenix, arizona houses inmates who were charged or convicted of crimes ranging from unpaid parking ticks to capital murder. with more than 9,000 inmates, there is an equal number of stories and personalities to be found here as well. >> my ears are an inch and when i'm done i will be three or four. >> we're met robert nolan in tent city. >> most of them have to do with deaths or protection. we are all going to die and protection from garr goils. this is the reason why i'm here. i haven't paid my child support. this arm is all my brother's work. i would have to loosen my pants to show you the other ones. >> we will take your word for it. >> he will serve with other who is have been convicted of

nonviolent crimes. they live in five indoor facilities. and in one of the facilities we came upon a high security housing unit that was like nothing we had encountered before. >> when you enter the jail facility which is where the women are housed within the maricopa county jail system, the vast majority are incarcerated in the with the exception of a maximum security unit. the unit within that unit is the adam 100 pod. >> adam 100 had space for 32, they held only four. >> i remember being briefed before going into the adam 100 squad about an evacuation plan. >> there will be two officers

and myself also. i will leave there with my tazer braun. drawn. >> in all the rest of maricopa county and the maximum security men's jail, i was never given a brief like that. this was the only time we had a contingency plan in case we were attacked. >> we will keep the door to our back. if there problems, the camera man will have to fall back. the staff and myself will form an ark to protect the crew and we will have to protect you out of the pod and secure the door. >> the inmate that was the greatest concern to detention officers was angela simpson. >> simpson i think is a very scare individual. >> coming up, behind the scenes of one of the most chilling interviews. >> i just laughed it off thinking it was a big joke. as she told her story i realized, maybe she wasn't

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aim page hopkins and here's what's happening. president obama is at camp david with g 8 leaders expected to discuss a range of issue this is weekend including europe's debt crisis, iran and syria. mitt romney and his wife donated the maximum allowed, $75,000 each to the victory fund. his campaign was joining fund with the republican national committee. aaa said consumers can expect lower gas prices following weakening demand that are pushing prices lower. back to lock up. >>. >> of all the inmates we interviewed at the maricopa

county jail, in particular made an equally striking impression on both our crew and detention staff. her name is angela simpson. >> simpson i think is a very scare individual. she is probably the only one in there that i take every precaution in the world to make sure my staff and myself are safe. she is the one in this whole jail that creeps me out for a better word. >> i was the first persono the crew to get introduced to angela simpson. upon meeting her, the first things that came out of her mouth when i approached her, she told me to go f. myself. for someone right off to say go f. yourself, all right. welcome to jail. >> simpson is a very scary person. by the nay l nature of her crimes and the way she has been here and manners and that, she doesn't seem to have a lot of those inhibition controls that

most people would. because of that, she can be very much a threat to staff. we have to keep her in a controlled setting. >> simpson of accused of kidnapping, torturing and murdering a man she believed to be a police informant and said to have dismembered the corpse, set it on fire and thrown the remains in a dumpster. in court, she proclaimed her innocence, but spoke openly about the alleged crime to us. >> the media said you did heinous things. does it bug you in. >> does it bug me what people say? no. my give a [ bleep ] is broke. i have no concern for what people think. >> i have it say i have never met an inmate who made me so uncomfortable. >> what did you do that you would consider torture. >> ripped his teeth out. that's my favorite. >> how did do you that? >> needle nosed pliers. kind of ripped.

>> the visceral descriptions that she gave of her crime, of torturing an individual and dismembering her victim, i had never heard anybody describe anything like that and i had certainly never heard anybody describe it with such glee. >> it was your pleasure when you committed this murder. >> that's [ bleep ] up. i don't know what my lawyer would say if i answered that straight out. yes, yes it was. yeah. >> it was really extraordinarily disturbing. i still think about it. >> it's pretty rewarding work. it's great for the soul. >> what were you trying to get out of him? >> he thought it was funny that the people he snitched on would never get out of prison. i wanted him to know how funny it was that they didn't need to. >> the strange thing me me was during the interview, i was two feet from her holding a reflector to block stray light.

as she was telling the stories. >> can you describe the pain? >> no. no because i will get excite and he will be in trouble. he's too close for me to get all hot with the stories. i will leave that alone. >> i laughed it off thinking it was a joke. as she told her story, i realized well, maybe she was not joking. >> is it hard to chop up a human body? >> no, not really. you would be amazed. it's quit simple actually. you should try it. it's only a felony 6. you can knock it down to a misdemeanor. it's a really low charge. >> sometimes it seemed like she was playing a game and other times you could telethat it wasn't a game anymore, but she was reciting something she actually liked to talk about. every now and then, i would pop in and talk to angela and check in.

a lot of times she would be sitting there drawing and she would always be in a zen-like state. very calm while she was sitting there doing her drawings. she said she had done drawings for christmas cards and i was expecting to see something happy or light for some reason. i don't know why. these drawings were probably some of the most graphic things i have seen. >> this was my first officer down picture. dithe officer down series. >> the officer down series. >> five or six of those. >> what's happening in this picture? >> a cop has been capture and we are having fun with him. it's just a christmas card. >> when i saw angela's drawings, they were so disturbing and they really got to this deep, deep seeded hatred that she seems to have for police officers. >> they use their authority in any way they want because they [ bleep ] can. nothing anybody can [ bleep ] do

about it. >> she explains how she ranks those who are the lowest of the lows. >> child molesters are beyond doubt the worst and most vile creatures on the planet. yes. snitches would be second and cops would be third. yeah. >> how about people who murder people? >> what about them? >> where do they fall? >> in where? >> in your hierarchy. >> of badness? they don't. you want to throw murderers in with cops and child molesters? are you serious? you are kidding, right? you can't put murderers in a category with [ bleep ] up people. that doesn't make any sense. rest assures if somebody killed someone they had a reason to do it. you need to look at the dead [ bleep ] and not the [ bleep ]

that killed it. >> do you have guilt? >> guilt, yes. i'm recovery run with remorse. justice. justice is lovely. what are you thinking? when i said justice is lovely, what were you thinking? >> i'm thinking how you feel about justice if they give you the death penalty. >> that's what i knew you were thinking. i'll be thinking the same thing. >> that justice is beautiful? >> justice is lovely. >> coming up -- >> this is mine. >> arguably she is maricopa's most magnetic inmate. >> she runs schemes and runs games. tends to be the controller of the pod. we call the pod boss. she is a game player. >> a lot of the girls in hollywood do. this man is about to be the millionth customer.

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during our shoot at the maricopa county jail in phoenix, we intrude roughly 150 inmates, but few stood out as more of a force of nature than kelly mcdonald. >> i have beer made and 30 cigarettes up the -- it's a party. >> offer to the side. side. side. >> okay. here's the steal. you purposely did that. >> you were like this. >> one of the things that is so striking about kelly is she always seemed to have this entourage of the prettiest girls

in the jail with her. >> this is my entourage. i had two blond that is when i get stressed out, jackie and courtney, i call them the blonds. i lay between them and hold their hands and tell them all about my problems or whatever and they sit there and look beautiful. >> these women would do all of these things for her. make her bed and give her honey buns. they were constantly doing her favors. it was hard to ever ascertain why. what her magentism and popularity was all about. everyone knew her. >> she pled not guilt to charges of theft and trafficking of stolen property. it was her behavior in the jail that made an impression on staff. >> kelly mcnaught on is what i call my only personal phrase of a professional inmate. she runs schemes and runs games. tends to become a controller of

a pod, the pod boss. she is a game player. >> she gives herself her own nickname. >> mcnaughty. >> it stuck not because she gave it to herself, but because it was appropriate. she was involved in every sort of drama. >> for us we know if something is going on, mcnaught on's fingers are probably in it. >> i want more. >> tar toos is my best thing. i give the best tattoos out of everybody. stringing eyebrows. i want to go to esthetician school. i'm like the best eyebrow stringer. my eyebrows are very nice. that's my work. >> there is no money within the jails. money is contraband. inmates constantly use a bartter system to get things they want.

whether it's food or somebody to do a favor for them. they call these hustles. mcnaught on had one of the craziest hustles i have ever heard. >> i gave most of those girls in that dorm an enema. people in hollywood do it all the time. the models do. they colon cleanses all the time and doctors get paid high changes. you never had a coal own cleanse? wow. a lot of the girls in hollywood do. >> how many have you given? >> the other day 54. today i just got done doing one. it's 55. >> this was a hair conditioner bottle. we empty it and whatever and hot water and shampoo. first of all, you go have to pay $10 to get a suppository. to me you only have to give

honey bun. you will lose three to five pounds and the food here, you gain weight. i gained 50 pounds. i came in 128 and i am like 180 right now. >> nicole was asking for the special brand of help for several weeks. now she is in luck. >> i will do you for free today. it's on the house. what's your name? >> nicole. >> okay. >> it's not a hustle. i care about people. i genuinely care about people. it seems like a lot of shampoo and it is. >> i'm sure you know what you are doing. i accept tips. some girls have given me stuff because it helped them out. >> ready? we are going in. let's go. did it help? >> yes, it did. >> so people should stop giving me a hard time?

i'm doing a service here. >> she sure does help. >> she loved it. >> coming up -- >> it is this wild, wild west. >> more of the unusual personalities we found in maricopa county. >> officer solomon, you have the voice and face for radio. get it? face for radio. [ donovan ] i hit a wall. and i thought "i can't do this, it's just too hard." then there was a moment. when i decided to find a way to keep going.

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during our extended stay at the maricopa county jail, there was no end to the lineup of interesting people we met. >> you guys are cool, man. that's why i have been talking to. i would maybe hang out with you guys. how much do you have in your wallets. >> the day of shooting can take a toll on the crew. >> one of the small pleasures we have is breaking for lunch and we will go walk outside into the sun light for an hour or grab

lunch. there was this one particular deli outside of the fourth avenue jail we went to a lot. one of the women who made our sandwiches actually did so carrying a pistol on her hip. >> thank you, sir. enjoy your lunch. >> this is not something you see when you are at subway or some deli. sandwich artists with a clock. a 15-round magazine in it. >> can i get a factory special, please? >> lettuce, tomato and onion? >> everything. >> 'do you carry when you are making sandwich? >> this is a right to carry. as long as you are not a convicted felon or domestic abuser, you have the rate to carry any time. including work. you have a nice day. >> there is a cultural adjustment when you get to arizona that you realize wow, this is a place where people carry guns. even the counter girl at the sandwich shop.

>> you never know what creatures are lurking around the corner. this is the wild, wild west. >> back inside the jail, another tradition from the old west was taking place. >> the dynamic between the detention officers and the inmates is interesting. one officer in particular, officer had an interesting way of staying engaged with the inmates. he played cards with them. >> i will shuffle them and lay them out on the table. i tell them which card to pick. they get whatever prize. >> sometimes cards and sometimes extra milk. >> for they don't win, they have to be quiet and leave me alone for the day. >> he is lying. we don't cut him slack. >> me first? i don't know about slick. six. >> thanks, guy. >> you got it.

>> they lose every hand. watch. >> it was perfectly within the rules. and it was his way of sort of understanding the pulse of the pod. >> nine? use the force. >> yes, sir. >> nice! >> any officer that shows us respect, we give him respect back. we have officers in here for lack of a better word, pigs. officers like the guy who does the card tricks, he's a fair officer. any time we get an officer like that, we will give him respect back because he makes our day easier so we make his day easier. give-and-take.

>> but life at maricopa was not all gun and games as one explained. >> you need smellavision and it's pump and canned and released in a small area of field downwind. it kind of breezes over us. >> i am sitting there and interviewing this inmate who ranted about the deplorable conditions in the jail. he wanted me to sample the water to see how alkaline it tasted or something. >> taste that and you me what you think of that. >> tastes like water. >> really? what a guy. >> they want me to try the food, taste the water, share their pain. >> that water is tasting worse and worse. >> can somebody get him a fresh glass of water? he would love some more. >> how are you all doing?

>> over the public address system, you hear this voice. >> officer solomon in here with you. hope you are enjoying this overcast cloudy day. it will remain this way throughout the remainder of the day. high temperature only about 65 degrees. >> you gotta get this. >> i now call for the st. joseph the worker glass. if you are interested more in st. joseph the worker in job and housing tunes available to me, meet me in the class room for st. joseph the worker. >> instantly harrington is laughing and wonder who is this guy? >> i'm officer solomon, the program coordinator for tent city. >> come on up, guys. >> officer solomon had this radio voice. when he started talking to us, this guy must have done something in radio. he actually did. >> many people of course ask

bhee they hear my voice, officer solomon you have that voice and face for radio. get it, face for radio? anyway. yes, i was in radio for many years and did a little tv. did a little radio. loved it. as i would sit in the studio, as i would go front selling and back selling songs. that was the latest by def leppard and a little docken and rath. more rock music. more of your requests coming up with me, the big g. it was great. i loved walking in and everybody was like big g. how are you doing? it was a lot of fun. i said is this my life? >> you guys coming for the st. joseph the worker class? >> front and back selling rock 'n' roll songs and taking requests. come on in. i wanted something more. i wanted something to help people and i wanted to go where the action was and where else

but here in the jails. >> gentlemen, listen up quickly. i need to have you come up row by row and it's important you put your name on both of these rosters. we don't want anybody to be missing from head count, do we? >> we are civilian clothes and wearing a shirt and a tie. i am an officer and some knew who i was on the outside and i had inmates say hey, big g. i had that happen to me. that's always a lot of fun and when i make announcements, good afternoon, gentlemen. how are you all doing today? officer solomon with you on a beautiful bright and sunshiny wednesday afternoon. i used to do the weather. i was a weather man in radio and occasionally spiced things up a little bit. i will 3 in a little weather report for the day. chance of rainy skies tonight, but tomorrow and on to the three-day forecast, mostly

sunshiny skies. highs will remain comfortably in the lower to mid 70s. >> it kind of makes their day more interesting and makes my day more interesting. livens things up a little bit which they react well to. their life is so much about routines. >> the think the inmates thought his announcements were corny, but they really respected him because he was such a nice guy. >> doing all right? when do you get out? you are out of here. you are out of here quickly. >> there is no reason for them to ever talk bad about him at all. >> how are you all doing today? >> they make fun of him, but no one did anybody disrespectful to him. >> the clouds are coming around. >> this is sad. >> clear skies.