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to fascinate. >> [ bleep ], sit here, and [ bleep ] it's funny, [ bleep ], face. >> another ex-inmate attempts to harness the rage he felt behind bars. to build a new career inside the rope ropes. and for one young woman life after lockup means coming to terms with the devastating childhood memory of witnessing her father murder her mother. >> i was saying, please, don't kill mom. and she was laying in the hallway and blood was coming out of her mouth. >> now for the first time she will watch the video of her father's final hours before his execution.
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most of the inmates featured on "lockup" dream of the day they will leave prison and everything associated with it behind. but for one of them, forgetting will be virtually in impossible. he is now out of prison and he will forever carry an inescapable reminder of his days behind bars. we first met, david boltjes serving time for credit card fraud. boltjes and paul inman each tattooed the whites of their eyes. boltjes chose red, inman, blue. >> why? >> i don't know. don't really ask why, the question is why not? 2 1/2 years later, his cellmate is still in prison. but david boltjes completed his sentence and living outside denver in colorado. >> i told everybody this time that i got out on parole. i am not going back.
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i am done. >> boltjes has seen a number of changes to his life since leaving prison. he says he found love with his new girlfriend, beth hendrickson. and the change is how his appearance on "lockup" made a sensation. look on the internet. look up tattooed eyes. who pops up? i do. since i got out of prison. i see some body, two, three times a day asked me about my eyes. that's pretty cool. >> they're tattooed. >> they're what? >> tattooed. >> your eyeballs. >> yeah, see. >> cool. wicked. >> i got stopped on the street. people are look you are that guy. i had a couple people ask for autographs. i ain't no celebrity, you know what i mean. yeah, i have been on tv. i am on the internet. i am just me. and look at my eyes. they're like -- >> they're scared of you.
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>> we're constantly getting stopped. oh, i saw you on tv. can i get my picture taken with you. something i have gotten used to. >> every time we go out. you always get so much attention. >> your eyes trip me out every time. >> every time. >> everybody is like, oh. >> trips me out look for real. >> doesn't that drive you crazy? >> no. >> no, not at all. >> don't you know who i am? >> your first impression when you saw him? >> i wasn't too impressed. i heard about the eyes. i have never seen the show before. i had to actually look it up. and i'm not sure that i would do something like that, nor would i want my children to. but it is unique for sure. it's grown on me. he is look a cupid. he is like a cupid. >> yeah, i get a lot of questions about it really. >> boltjes says he has been to the optometrist since leaving
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prison and even though the color faded a bit over the past few years he is not sure if he will tattoo them again. either way, he is sure of one thing, if he does color them again it won't be in prison. >> what i learned from being in prison is there is a better life away from the criminal life. the enjoyment of life being able to live it not having to look over your shoulder all the time. it is great. >> upon his release, boltjes started off on the right track. i got a really good job, fixing, flipping houses, making $1,000, $1,500, living in the big houses, having a car. people buying the houses, they're you were the guy on tv, are those tattooed, what is wrong with your eyes, are those contacts, that's awesome? >> boltjes would discover for an ex-con, success can be ten was. fortunes turned south when he picked up side work as a tattoo artist. >> one dude owed me money for
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tattooing. he found an easy way that he wouldn't have to pay me. he tried to set me up to make it look like i was a hair one deer. heave didn't know my real name or nickname, all he knew i was the guy with the red eyes. >> boltjes eyes made it easy for authorities to identify him. he was picked up while still on parole and was sent to jail. the case against him was eventually dropped. and the charges dismissed. but the damage had been done. >> sitting in jail for eight months caused me to lose my job, lose my car, lose the house i was staying in, caused me to lose everything if i got back out and had nothing. i worked so hard and so, and tried to do everything perfectly fine. this time, i don't know. it's aggravating. >> boltjes does tattoo work to help support himself. and yes, he says he has tattooed more than just the typical body parts. >> i have tattooed about five
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people's eyes since i have been out of prison. it has been weird colors. like, neon green, fluorescent pink, i did one guy's orange and blue. one eyes was orrineni s was ora. blue. then regular colors. red, green, purple. >> while you are here tonight why don't you just get your eyes tattooed. >> i'm looking for a job, it would be kind of hard to do with your eyes that way. >> is that the case, david? >> well some, some jobs, yeah. if you look at it, freak out, wonder what the hell, wonder if i am always high. >> making end meet hasn't always been easy. but now, david and beth are about to face an even greater challenge. >> about to have a kid. that is a big step. >> i am 14 weeks. and she was a surprise. >> this is the baby at 11 weeks. the baby is really there. it's not just a line on the test strip. >> uh-huh. just wait till it comes out. i can give it tons of sugar and
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leave it with you all day. >> right. >> i think he is terrified. terrified. it is something he has never done before. it's -- not his normal life that he has dealt with. it's something totally new. terrified for sure. >> i just hope it is not like me at all. because i am bad. i am -- growing up i was very, very bad. you name it illegally i probably have done it. stealing cars, breaking into houses, selling drugs. but now i have learned from that mistake. i don't want my kid to grow up being that bad kid. i want to be able to be there and do things so the kid won't have to go do all that stuff. >> as for the future, david and beth are planning to move to a small town in northern colorado to raise their child. >> we want to open up a tattoo shop. we have to worry about some body else, time to grow up. now time to do right.
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now tomb ime to put all the stue know about how to do bad, all the illegal stuff, flip it, make it legitimate. >> people make mistakes, some people more than others. but i know his heart. and he is a good person. >> coming up -- the former lockup inmate who went from head banger to professional wrestler. >> of msnbc "lockup" fame. >> and later the woman determined to tame bobby ray gilbert's wild heart. >> i saw more than the crazed psychopath. i saw past that. surprised some people. so did the country that came in 17th place. let's raise the bar and elevate our academic standards.
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david boltjes was not the only former inmate from the
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correctional facility we discovered living in the denver, colorado suburb of aurora. >> we have 60 days to polish you up. i don't know wife cif we can do. >> when we met michael gill during our extended stay shoot, he was two months from completing his sentence and nervous about the future. >> when i get home. i am going to move up here. is there a lot of work? >> at the time, gill was completing a two-year sentence for sexual salt. he maintains the conviction was improperly handed down. but during our shoot, gill frequently displayed a volatile temper. >> gill's flare-ups and disciplinary problems added six months to his sentence and landed him in segregation. but when gill's anger retreated his sense of humor seemed to
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always re-emerge. >> i got my shower in. so i am good. >> how is your head? awe m >> my head is fine. >> really? >> yeah. how is your head? >> two years after his release, gill says he never plans on returning to prison again. >> every single day i was there i could have got killed. i learned that, breaking the law is not worth anything to me. i would rather stay out here and live a good productive life. like lyman sucked. to have to watch my back every day. to make sure someone wasn't coming up to stuck me with a knife. like i don't want to be there. it is a great feeling to know that i am done with my prison sentence and done with parole. i haven't been in trouble since i have been out. other than a speeding ticket. >> since his release there has been a major change in gill's life. >> i have a son. i dated his mother for a couple
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months. i told her the classic line, i have high blood pressure, don't worry you won't get pregnant. my blood pressure wasn't that high. she got pregnant. my son, that is the best that has ever happened to me since becoming free. he is my reason for everything i do. >> gill split up with his son's mother, but says he still strives to be a father. even though his status as an ex-con makes things difficult. >> still don't have a car. still don't have a job. don't have my own place. and this economy sucks. >> gill returned to a part-time career that he had begun to explore prior to his incarceration. professional wrestling. >> let's go! >> who is the boss here? you are the boss? >> one of us happens to be a celebrity, famous wrestler. >> yeah, that's me. >> glill's close friend is fellw wrestler, rich garcia. >> big rich is the most
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obnoxious, heaviest mexican i have ever known in my life. and i love him for that. >> i have known michael for about three years. and, it is a love/hate relationship. >> [ bleep ] shut up. >> oh. >> you all right? >> guy -- grow up! >> [ bleep ] that he does pisses you off. and then there is times where he can just be, the most loving teddy bear, you know that anybody has ever met. >> i'm winded. >> gill also has the a new girlfriend, tish birmingham. >> with her i finally found out what true love is. >> hey, baby. >> i trust her. i have never trusted any woman. >> tish is gill's biggest ringside fan for his wrestling matches which usually take place far away from the arenas featured in big time television wrestling. to night's map. in a rented out nightclub in denver. we do like, libre shows, mexican
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wrestling shows, since i am white i an going to be the bad guy. bud doobie is my character. a stoner wrestling character. i'm not a stoener. i don't smoke pot. people that smoke marijuana, are out there a little bit. that's why i am bud doobie. >> basically what it is i call out, i pretend i am stoned. i trip over the ropes when i get in the ring. i laugh at things. i eat food during my match because i have the munchies. >> bud doobie! >> bud doobie he is a character. if it's -- [ indiscernible ] >> the crowd loves to hate him. and he, he knows how to work the
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crowd to piss them off. >> coming up -- bud doobie takes to the ring. and michael gill reflects on where bud end and he begins. >> it's kind of hard to distinguish the real me and the character i play. >> and the woman about to become wife to one of lockup's most memorable inmates. >> i don't look at bobby as a killer. it's just something he did. it's not something he is. [ male announcer ] what's in your energy drink?
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when we visited colorado's lyman correctional facility to shoot our series, inmate michael gill told us about his alter ego. my wrestling name, bud doobie, a stoner character. >> this is the bud doobie, of msnbc, "lockup" fame, have some respect. >> two years after gill's
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release, bud doobie was alive and well and wrestling in a denver nightclub. racist humor is a big part of the bud doobie character. >> why don't you get up and show me your green card. >> get a reaction out of people whether it is good or bad. >> gill admits it is sometimes hard to tell where bud doobie ends and michael gill begins. >> you know, i have had a problem since i have been in prison with, racism. i am not going to lie about it. there is a whole different culture in prison and you love to hate everyone but whites. and that's kind of followed me out here. even to this day. >> let me tell you people something when this is over, you're all going down. >> michael before he went into prison he didn't have a racist bone in his body. for seem reason as he came out, like he started to have all these problems with my, my other
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wrestling of ethnicity. i had to sit down with mike and say, hey, mike, you have to reprogram yourself you are not in prison anymore. >> i know i need to drop that. it is a problem. i use it at the shows. >> shut your stupid mexican mouth. >> honestly i don't believe he is genuinely racist. i just think that some of the things from prison kind of boiled over. 'o say can you see ♪ >> but it isn't only bud doobie's racism that is rooted in gill's past. >> i think wrestling is a release for my anger. obviously the matches are predetermined. but when i slam someone. that its 100% real. >> prison. >> that was [ bleep ] -- [ bleep ]. >> at lyman gill frequent leap
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loleap -- frequent lely lost control his temper. >> you want to thing it is funny, [ bleep ], face. >> having to fight. in situations if you weren't an angry person you were a weak person. the mentality follows me from prison out to here. >> some times i get so pissed off i want to snap. >> lately gill's anger has to dupe with making end meet, his wrestling career doesn't support him much less his son. >> i don't like the things that go on in the world. there is so much i need to do for myself. i cannot do it because there is no jobs, and i don't have a car, and i don't know how to begin to take care of those things. so i am pissed off. so when i was at lyman. i was adamant. i will never take a job for under a certain amount of money and i am only going to do a certain type of job. >> what am i getting out to a $10 an hour job. african-americans make more than
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that. i don't have any goals. >> since i have been out. since i have had a son. i will take any job for any wage because i am no better than anyone else. >> why don't you go ahead and do a couple back rows. >> though gill struggles with anger, he knows how important it is to contain it. >> i know that if i -- lose control, i will lose my son. so i keep that in check. >> he doesn't drink anymore. i think he really turned around and prioritized a lot better. >> i need to let it go, of my prison experiences, and find more positive outlets. instead of, instead of holding all this negativity. and sometimes exploding. i want to find a job. and get a place that i can raise my son so when he is 10, 12 years old he can be provud of hs daddy. i want to provide for my girlfriend. my goals are to settle down and
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grow up. and live life to the fullest. and do positive. >> gill's friend say they're committed to helping him stay on track. >> michael has a good chance of staug o staying out of jail. if he has positive people behind him. >> i love you bro, like the sister i never had. >> [ bleep ] you. >> as long as i am alive, michael gill will stay out of prison. ♪ >> coming up -- one of "lockup's" most unforgettable inmates finds his soul mate. >> bobby asked me, he says "i love you. i never loved a woman as much as i love you. and will you be my wife." >> later, a death row inmate places his final phone call to a lockup field producer. >> i guess, three hours to live, what's going through your mind? sweet!
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here is what is happening -- the white house says it is horrified by a brutal attack in
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syria that killed more than 90 people. 32 children under age 10. syria's opposition leaders are calling for action from the u.n. in the wake of that. subtropical storm beryl is gaining strength. dangerous surf, high wind and torrential rains expected off the southeastern coast as beryl moves closer to landfall. now back to "life after lockup." when we first visited the holman correct,al facility in alabama in 2006, we met an inmate who would turn out to be one of the most provocative and volatile to ever appear on "lockup" bobby ray gilbert. >> you want us to exhibit some form of model behavior, but then every avenue is closed to us to do anything constructive. we can't read a novel.
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we can't have one. i can't play chess through the mail like i used to. >> this is segregation. if it weren't meant to beep nice. you are ain't here because you were doing something constructive. >> when we returned to holman is 2007 for our "extended stay" series we found gilbert exactly where we left him in add seg, administrative segregation housing unit where inmates are locked down 23 hours a day. ad seg houses holman's most violent and destructive offenders and it is where bobby ray gilbert has spent all most all of his 27 years in prison. >> i have two life sentences. two 99-your sentences. a 40-year sentence. a 20-year sentence. and a 10-year sentence. i have anger issues. gilbert's many convictions include robbery, assault, two counts of murder one of which
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was carried out against another inmate in prison. during our shoot we would see his anger erupt again. >> but gilbert proved to be more than just a violent man. he also showed us a thoughtful, creative side. in the last interview we did with gilbert, he seemed resigned to his fate of spending the rest of his life, most likely alone, in the small cell. >> at this pound yint you just back and relax, and realize the best part is over with anyway. >> but five years later we would discover that gilbert's appearances on "lockup" opened up a new chapter in his life. she goes by the name of angel. preferring not to give her last name. and she is bobby ray gilbert's fiancee. >> we have been together four years.
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it's just something that happened. i didn't set out for it to happen. it just did. >> the alabama department of corrections denied a request to interview gilbert. angel told us the story of how she first became involved with gilbert short low after seeing him on "lockup."initially conta another inmate, who held the job of prison barber. it was moore who acted as match maker. >> i wrote sherman. and developed a friendship with sherman. >> you can pull a flat top fade out of your hat? >> is that what you want? >> yeah. >> i also saw the segment on bobby. i inquired about bobby. what kind of a person is he? >> i was telling about drinking the bottle of scope in west jefferson. >> sherman encouraged me to write to him. he is like, write him, angel. he said. you might hit it off. he says you and your personality
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wise are very similar. >> so i wrote bobby a letter. because i just saw something more than what was shown. bobby breaking that window. pacing in the cage. mad. >> so help me, god they're going to transfer me. >> i saw more than the crazed psychopath. i saw a little bit more past that. >> i really didn't have what you would call a childhood where you could be a kid, play, humor, cutting up, and wasn't looked upon too friendly. >> there was something more to him. i wanted to get to know him. >> angel received a response from gilbert almost immediately. >> angel, so i am curious why does an attractive woman with a busy lifestyle take the time out to write a guy in prison.
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aren't you worried thit will bust out of here, hunt you down, harass you at work and make on sken calls to you. thank you for the picture, angel. love that hair the you have to be seven feet tall, talking about kicking my -- don't beep a stranger, angel. take care of yourself. with a smile, bobby g. >> when angel began her correspondence with gilbert she was living in illinois. her son nico was only 15 at the time. >> at first i was very worried about her emotional safety. because, i wasn't sure how it would end up. >> but what had begun as a pen pal relationship quickly be call something more serious. >> on a sunday evening, at 8:00 at night my son brought me the phone. he said there is a collect call on there. i thought, perhaps it was from sherman. and it was him. it was bobby. and, i, i have kuhn kated with him. every day since. >> my mom was just glowing. she was happy.
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and it was really nice to see her like that. >> i started feeling something for bobby. i was falling in love with him. it is an emotion that you can't control. it just happens. >> after four months of calls and letters, angel decided to make the 700-mile trip from illinois to alabama and she visited bobby for the first time. >> it was only three hours. and it was very special. he was sitting next to me. and -- i could see bobby, out of the corner of my eye, just grinning and staring at me. it was really cute. >> over the next few months, angel made the trip two more times. and on her third visit gilbert had something special planned. >> bobby took my hand and he said -- i have nothing for you. but this. i can't financially support you. all i could do is love you and
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be your friend and be there for you. i mean, i got tears coming down my eyes. because the i know what's -- what's getting ready to happen. and bobby asked me, he says, i love you. and i have never loved a woman as much as i love you. and will you be my wife. i mean, i am crying. yes. i threw my arms around him. and -- that was it. >> aun gel quit her bartending job, packed up her teenage son and life in illinois and moved to a small town in alabama. where she would only be an hour's drive from the prison. she got a job as a bartender and built her life around visits to gilbert. >> you got to be strong for it. because the it's not all fun and games. our visits, we laugh, and, just, enjoy each other's time. but, when they say visits are now over, you are leaving someone that you love there. and itch you can't -- hang, you
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don't need to be involved with somebody who has got a life without sentence. because life without parole in this state, you ain't getting out. >> coming up -- >> this woman is just some crazy fan that saw him on tv, sent him money and he ran a little game on her. >> angel finds engagement doesn't stop the competition for bobby ray's affections. and later, the life after "lockup" segment that goes beyond the death chamber. >> this is what my dad gave me before he was executed. my name is robin...
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>> i daydream about the whole getting out, having a family, picket fence, you know -- the daydreams get out and do it right this time, you know? and now, you daydream about how you can blow this whole prison up and kill everybody in it. despite bobby ray gilbert's history of violence both in and out of prison his fiance angel says when she sees him she seize -- sees a different side. >> i don't look at bobby as a killer. it's just something he did. not something he is. >> though bobby is serving life. angel finds ways to unclued him in the daily home life. >> these are our visiting pictures. people may thing it is an obsession which it is not. i can't see him physically daily like, joe blow and his wife, you know, i see him in a picture the
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he is with me. but he is not with me physically. >> there is more to a relationship than sex. you got to hatch truve trust, r good communication, companionship i have all of the above. but i just don't have the physical part. awe baltimore angel wasn't the only woman who has seen gilbert on lockup. as she is often reminded when she searches his name on the in the ne the -- internet. >> they come out of the woodwork. women come out of the woodwork, all ages. i am in love with you. i am going to -- i want to have your love child. i want to marry you. i have found a new love. his name is bobby ray gilbert. his friends call him snake. he makes me laugh. he makes me feel good. he says the sweetest things. he is a total bad ass, my kind of man. >> angel says gilbert used these
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women to his advantage. namely developing relationships so they will put money in his prison account in order for him to make purchases from the can teen. >> like a ball player plays baseball for the love of the game. bobby plays women for the love of the game. like a chess game or of hand texas hold-em. he is a master at it. this woman is some crazy fan that saw him on tv. sent him money. and he ran a little game on her. if you are going to beskanks, s is a total bad ass, i will change his life or have a flower garden in his honor. that is great. open your wallet up to him. he will bleed you dry. >> at the same time, angel sends bobby money as well. >> the money i give bobby per week goes on his inmate account so he can, you know, buy, buy himself some groceries.
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hea he eats with it. >> how are you so positive and sure you are not part of his game? >> because i am me. because i am special the i kn. i know who i am and what i am to bobby gill were. and i am not game. and i am not a trick. and i am not something to hustle. unlike the rest of these people out there. >> gilbert told us he is looking forward to the wedding. but must be released from ad seg before the couple can be granted permission to be married. though angel is resigned to the fact that gilbert will never leave prison. that doesn't stop her from imagining a more ideal yllic ho life. >> i daydream about simple things. what it would be like to make bobby a breakfast plate and bring it to him. or tell him, get it yourself. i ain't your maid. i love everything about him. i love his temperament, i love his personality, i love his intelligence, his wit, his sense
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of humor. i love everything about him. i wouldn't change anything about him outside of one thing that would be his freedom. and i sincerely mean that from the bottom of my heart. >> there are many things lindsay christmas would change about another inmate featured on "lockup." but now it ties late for that. >> this is what my dad gave me before he was executed. someone, he was good friends with in prison, had made this for my dad to give to us. and my brother got one as well. and i believe this is made out of toilet paper which is, really neat. and it has the the date at the bottom. december '09. that's when my dad passed away. >> lindsay's dad was eric wrinkles. an inmate we met on death row during our shoots at indiana state prison. we were with him when the final
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appeal of his death sentence was denied. >> first, even though you expect it, it is a little, little -- little bit of a surprise even like you expected. other than that. i mean it is what it is. it's like, having cancer and know you only got so long to live. you start getting rid of possessions. you make sure you got a will written up. tying up loose ends. >> anything you want to say to anybody? >> not at this time, no. >> nothing? >> no. >> 15 years earlier, wrin cokle was convicted of three murders. his wife deborah had left him and talk taken lindsay and brot seth to live. shortly after midnight. wrinkles arrived at the house dresses in full camouflage. had paint across his face, two marks across each side of paint. it was look a rambo look.
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>> wrinkles first cut the phone lines. then kicked through the back door. 13-year-old lindsay was awoken by gunshots and witnessed her father murder her mother. >> i was saying, please, you know, please don't kill mom. and -- and she was laying in the hallway, and blood was coming out of her mouth. and before i saw that i looked in the room beside and my uncle tony was laying face down. i knew he was probably dead. >> it was land sindsay who ran neighbor's house to call 911, by then her mother, uncle and aunt were already dead. >> i really couldn't fathom what was to come of our life. >> today, lindsay lives in a small rural town on the florida panhandle with her husband, two young children, and a menagerie of pets. >> some times i look to come sit outside and look around. it is our own little --
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sanctuary. >> but the past never fades away. lindsay still cherishes memories of her mother. >> i like this picture because my mom looked more like this one. before she passed away. >> lind ssay's husband blake is corrections officer at a florida state prison. they've been married six years. >> i never thought i am going to marry some one that works at a prison. it just turned out that way. just knowing things about prison life i guess helps me to know what my dad had to face every day. and this one was, when he had first went to prison. >> how did you feel whenny was in there? >> i was hurt, and sad, that my dad was in prison. but then i was angry, because i felt alone. >> she thought about her dad was in prison.
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and the rough life she had. and i would ask her about it. she would come out more and more. and she finally came out and told me the whole thing. i was hoping that i could help her through it. >> this is -- me with my uncle tony. when i was, very little. makes me miss him. he was my favorite uncle. i always wished that -- that i could have a normal life. >> during the 13 years wrin comcome com comes -- wrinkles was on death row, lindsay had very little contact with him. >> some of the letters he would write were not nice. this is a -- a letter that my dad had wrote me. lindsay, for the life of me, i can't fathom why you are now so damn hateful and disrespectful to me. did i a, beat you, b, molest you, or c, pimp you out? if not, how was i so mean to you? think about it, eric. >> i kind of felt bad for
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lindsay when i read it, because that was -- someone that she loves, that was her dad. and i know she, even though she distanced herself from him, she still loved him. that was her dad. >> so i responded to his letter. it says, eric, i don't have problems, you do. you put yourself on death row. you killed mom, tony and natalie and had no remorse. they meant the most to me and you took them away. i will never forgive you for taking my family and neither will they. this will be the last time i ever talk to you. >> but years later, lindsay would change her mind. >> coming up. lindsay's final visit with her father, the day before his execution. >> about an hour or so left. just want to tell them both i love them. >> and the never before release audio recording of eric wrinkle's last phone call mere hours before his death when he
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on the day before eric wrinkles was to be executed at indiana state prison, he received a visit from several relatives including his son seth and his daughter lindsay. who at age 13 witnessed wrinkles murder her mother. this never before seen video was shot by another family member. the first time in six years that lindsay had seen her father. >> i don't want there to be guilt of me not saying what i need to say. because after he is gone he is gone. i can't go back and say, anything if i wanted to. and i thought and pararayed abo it for a long type. i told my husband this is what i
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need to do, make amend with my dad. >> it has been two years since that visit and wrinkle's execution. but this is the first time lindsay has watched the video even though it had been in her possession the entire time. >> seeing my dad kiss me and hug me was weird. i couldn't remember the last time that happened. >> december 10, with my kids. i have about an hour owe sore left. just want to tell them both i love them. i miss them. >> when i saw him, he, he apologized.
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for everything. and that -- i think that's what i needed. >> hours before her father was executed, lindsay decided to leave indiana and make the long drive home to florida. >> i didn't want to see him die. so i left. i didn't want to hear anything else about it. i didn't want to see it. i was just ready to go back to my family. >> but later that evening, just three hours before he would walk into the execution chamber, wrinkles would talk to one last person outside the prison walls. he place aid phone call to "lockup" field producer susan carnie. >> i stayed in touch with eric after we finished our extended stay shoot we, did a series of recorded phone conversations. our last conversation took place the night of his execution.
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>> a lot of my prior conversations with airi ieric h defensive, angry about the night of the murders. he was not willing to take responsibility for his role. >> i don't feel like dealing with it. >> in our very last conversation he seemed almost peaceful louk -- like he was ready to accept his death. >> do you think apo about what will miss? >> little things. walk doors. see a tree. see the grass. that stuff. all the little things when you come down to it that are worthwhile. that's it.
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i was just thinking, you know there's not going to be any more brushing my teeth, getting up out of bed, going outside or any of that stuff. it just kind of strange to think that you are not going to have to do the normal things that you every day. that seems weird. what i am going to do? keep myself busy. what am i going to do tomorrow. i don't know. so, you know? it's kind of strange to think that. but that's what's going through my mind now. it's weird. >> though lindsay had been through the trauma of losing one parent to murder and the other new execution, she decided not to use the past as a burden but a guide post. >> the past has helped me. because i look back and say i am not going to do this. i am not going to be like this. i am going to make a better life for myself and for my kids.
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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >> they are the inmates whose stories we'll never forget and whose lives have taken twists you'll never believe. now we reveal whatever became of paul komyatti. twin brothers, roy and ray slagle. ronnie tye and the woman he married in prison. jodie mormon.

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