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what should make us think he would be any harder to bed politically once he's in office. that's "hardball" for now. "the ed show" starts right now. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" from new york. republicans around the country are trying to undermine democracy. now, they trying to steal the vote in florida before a ballot is cast. this story needs to be heard. let's get to work. >> who made the decision to put these names on a list. >> democrats are fighting rick scott's attempt to block the vote in florida. republicans are joining them. tonight a republican election supervisor calls out the republican governor in florida. >> i need to get 50.1% or more. >> mitt romney is standing by his birther while donald trump
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goes on another out of control rant about the president. >> there are many people that don't agree with that birth certificate. michael eric dyson on mitt romney's lack of courage to cut ties with trump. the ghost of ronald reagan is make an appearance in wisconsin. >> win this one. >> we'll tell you why john doe and big bucks could win this election for the democrats. good to have you with us tonight. thanks for watching. the one thing about the republicans, that's masters at doing stuff when nobody else is watching. you need to watch this story. on the heel offense a national holiday honoring those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our country, here comes are radical governor who is spearheading a version of democracy. governor rick scott's voter purge is tossing eligible voters under the rolls who are under a deadline to prove they are eligible to vote.
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bill nicola, he's war hero, he's a veteran. he's one example. he's a 91-year-old decorated veteran of world war ii who received a letter telling him, you're not a u.s. citizen. therefore you're ineligible to vote. to correct this mistake, you know what he's got to do? he must now request a hearing of with the supervisor of elections to prove he's a united states citizens. >> i was amazed when i got the letter. i've been voting since i was 18 years old i've never had any trouble. >> you have to be thinking what's going on here. he was joined by two congressmen calming on governor scott to suspend the voter purge. he's is congressman hastings. >> who made the decision to put these names on a list?
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why did you make that decision? when did you make that decision? and if you made that decision recently when mr. intercola received the letter, why didn't you do it a long time before this election? >> the total is 180,000 voters have been identified as potential noncitizens using a dmv database, which does not automatically update someone becoming a citizen. in miami county alone, more than 1600 voters were called noncitizens and already 359 people on the list have provided proof of their citizenship. in other words, florida is purging voters from the rolls based on a flawed system. the purge is hitting the hispanic community the hardest. senator bill nelson of hispanic are under attack. the most precious right of all of our rights in america to the
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right to vote and it is being assaulted right here. nelson said this to the league of united latin american citizens in tampa. a coalition of civil rights have asked florida secretary of state ken denster to stop the purge or risk a lawsuit. they saw federal law prohibits voters being removed from the roll less than 90 days before the election. florida holds a primary election on august 14th. the next presidential election could be stolen right before our eyes if this flawed voter purge is not halted. maureen russo has thrown out the rolls. she is a ft. lauderdale residents who has legally voted in florida for 40 years. two weeks ago the state of florida said they had information indicating she was not born in this country. she immediately asked a hearing but has not yet received a response.
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get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, does the justice department need to get involved in the voter purge in florida? text a for yes. text b for no to 622639. you can go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring the results later on in the show. joining me tonight is mike. i appreciate your time. the state cannot revoke voting privileges in florida. it can only be done by the supervisors of elections in each of florida's 67 counties. you're one of those supervisors. what is the process? what's going on here? >> the process, by the way, i want to point out something. thanks for pointing out memory day yesterday. i voted oversaeas. >> let's get to the point. i understand you want to make a
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statement about this. what is your governor in florida going to the voting roll? let's get to it. >> well, i think what's occurred is the department of state has sent down and you asked about the process, the sent down a dictate saying we need to use the database that they have given us and send a letter to our neighbors and asked our neighbors and friends to prove their citizenship, to show us their papers to prove they are a citizen of the u.s. the database that they used was based upon the dmv database, which is something that's, the right to vote is dramatically more important than the right to drive. not updating your dmv record should not invalidate your right to cast a ballot. >> the governor is wrong. you're willing to say that? >> well, i'm willing to say the system that's put in place is not only not timed in the most efficient fashion to build voter confidence. our 67 supervisors are trying
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our best to make sure when we contact the voters with doe so with dignity and a bit of grace. we're trying to do that. >> mr. ertel, these folk vs to meet a deadline or they're not going to be able to vote. what more of an example does the state of florida need than a 90-year-old veteran, decorated, world war ii? you should scrap this and start over. >> i think the list should have been vetted quite a bit more before it was given to us. we were mandated by florida law. we have to go through the process of then contacting that voter, giving them 30 days to show us their papers and to verify that they are citizens. >> we're talking about 180,000 people that could be just thrown off the rolls. if a voter cannot go to the hearing before the election, are they going to be able to get at provisional ballot and vote? how does that work?
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>> absolutely. that's our goal is to let the voters know. we have only six in seminole county. of the six, only two have cast ballot. it's easy to put a face on that and tell them if they want to provide a provisional ballot and show citizenship paper work at that time, we'll count it. our role is not to disenfranchise folks. it's to allow everyone that wants to cast a ballot to cast ballot. >> good to have you with us. thank you very much. >> let's turn to mitchell ceasar. he's on the executive board of the dnc as a representative of the 14 southern states. good to have you on tonight. we're talking about 180,000
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people which could swing the election in florida. it's warm out. nobody is paying attention, but the republicans are trying to steal the election. that's how i view the story. the former florida secretary of state said the list was unreliable and he refused. governor rick scott, he just kept pushing this, didn't he? >> well, you're exactly right. i'm willing to say this governor is wrong. this is new high for voter suppression. this is a new low. fp you're a student, it makes it more difficult. if you're in the military, it makes it difficult. if you're a recently married woman with a name change it makes it more difficult. when we're talking about provisional ballots, we know that most often, they're not fully counted. this was specifically designed by the republican game plan to suppress the vote. it got worse. they decided to cut early voting hours in florida in half. they changed the element where churches we used significantly as voting location, that's changed.
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it's adversely affecting working people because of the lesser number of voting days available in early voting and it's significantly impacting african-american church goers who make it a historical pilgrimage to vote on sunday. let's think about this. is it just a coincidence that it affects young people, military, working people, african-american and hispanic, i don't think it's a coincidence. >> you think it's part of the game plan to throw the election? >> absolutely. i think it's game plan hatched among republican groups unveiling it because they realize that president obama has great success in signing up new voters in 2008. young people and a lot of folks never engaged before. they have two tasks to stop that. they have to put the voting provisions in to make it impossible to register people just deterring the league of women voters force to sue and
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even rock the vote. the two most radical groups that i could think of, the league of women voters and rock the vote have been severely stopped and slowed down. i don't know who is next. the american red cross, who else are they going to stop? >> we need to point out that in 2000, 7,000 voters were wrongfully remove e ed from the rolls. this is according to think process. that number was 13 times the margin over president bush or al gore in the state. this election with 180,000 people if they are taken off the roll, if florida is that tight and going after hispanic and african-american communities and church goers on sunday and young voters, what does that tell you? it clearly this governor, in my opinion, is part of a plan to make sure that the vote is suppressed in florida and it's going to swing the election or
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it could depending on how the scenarios of the other states play out? where is the outrage here? >> hopefully it's going to come through shows like this. this is a republican governor, who in the past, among most republican governors would try to do these things subtly. now it's in your face. there's not even a pretense about how much a voter suppression act this is. >> good to have you with us tonight. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. donald trumpb is doubling down on the birther talk and mitt romney is letting him. republicans are trying to steal elections all over the country. stay with us. boards and your wetsuits ♪ free-credit-score-dot-com's gonna direct you ♪ ♪ to check your credit score before it gets too late ♪ ♪ and you end up strapped for cash ♪
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i'm appreciative to have the help of a lot of good people. >> there you have it. all mitt romney needs is 50.1% of the vote. it doesn't matter who his supporters are, what they say, what they believe or what they suggest. that includes donald trump. romney has no intentions of distancing himself from trump's race bating antics. tonight trump is hosting a fund-raiser. it's expected to bring in $2 million. trump is a vital part of the romney campaign. donald trump is playing an extremely important role, which has been acknowledged by both ann and mitt romney, which has been acknowledged by them in election night speeches. romney and trump appeared side by side when trump officially endorsed romney, this was back in february. trump help a fund-raiser for romney in new york. he robocalled people.
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he's making the tv rounds and questioning the president's birth certificate. if mitt romney believes we should be focusing on jobs, why wouldn't he just reputuate the nonsense. >> why would he want to openly offend donald trump? >> we wouldn't want to offend the trumpster. trump went full birther on cnbc this morning. >> now, is it the most important thing? in a way it is. you're not allowed to be president if you're not born in the country. i've been known as being a smart guy for a long time. i don't consider myself birther or not birther. there's some major questions here and the press doesn't want to cover it. >> the obama campaign called out romney's complete lack of leadership and released there web ad compared to john mccain, a man who stood up to the party.
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>> more scared of obama presidency. >> he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared as president of the united states. >> i have read about him. he's an arab. >> no, ma'am. he's a decent family man, citizen, that i just happen to have disagreements with. >> trump tweeted this. barack obama is begging mitt romney to disavoi the place of birth movement. he's afraid of it and for good reason. he keeps using john mccain as an example. john mccain lost the election. don't let it happen again. trump has been leading the birther parade for years, and now he believes that talking about the president's birth certificate is the way to win the election. if that's true, now would be a great time to reveal just what his team of investigators found in hawaii. >> i have people that have been studying it and they cannot believe what they are finding.
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>> you have people now down there searching in hawaii? >> absolutely. they cannot believe what they are finding. >> trump was asked about the matter on cnn earlier. >> tell us what you're people investigating, what they found. >> we don't have to go into old news. that's old news. >> what have they found? >> it's old news. you can read many, many articles on the authenticity of the certificate. >> he claims he doesn't speak to romney about the birther issue and acknowledge that romney believes the president was born in the united states. >> you know what, everybody's entitled to their opinion. you know my opinion. you know his opinion, and that's fine. >> the state of hawaii says it's not an opinion. it's fact. >> i don't think so. if you look at the birth certificate, take a look and you tell me, you analyze the birth certificate. there are many people that don't agree with that birth certifica certificate. they don't think it's authentic. >> i don't know when you say
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many people. >> many people. >> like who? give me authority. give me name. >> i don't give names. mitt romney doesn't have the guts to stand up to him. romney is fanning the flames. earlier this evening romney released his own birth certificate. let's turn to msnbc political analyst and georgetown university professor michael eric dyson with us. romney will not stand up to donald trump, ted nugent, rush limbaugh. what does this say about his leadership? >> he's weak. he's unprincipaled. if he indicates that he believes that barack obama was born in the united states of america, he should release a statement trumpeting and declaring this should not be a campaign issue, off the table.
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let's move on to the next subject. we don't believe it either. dwoe we don't believe what you say. this is the lunatic fringe that has deep pockets. we have combine ed paranoia and deep pockets. the reality is we have to have a leadership that's willing to stand up to its own party and distance itself from the lunatic fringe of its own belief to subject these are my believes. i stand for this. i will no longer accept nugent or trump or anybody else who is challenging the authenticity of the birth certificate of president barack obama. >> he's playing to the head shaking crowd. he's got do have them if he's going to have any chance of being the president of the united states. tom davis says that romney's
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embrace of trump is all about the money. >> this is a money game. >> is he so desperate he had to be connected at the hip with trump to get the money? >> sure. we know the rolling of the eyes of the romney campaign against trump. he is too deep pocketed. not only his donorship and the people he's able to attract. he's able to attract other people with deep pockets. romney feels he can't leave them behind. you only feel you can't leave them behind if you're invested in the notion that the money they bring will outweigh the discounting you have of a legitimate political authority. what you're gaining by bringing the money is, you're losing in terms of your own political purchase and the belief that you can be of the kind of leader that has the principals to stand up to wrong where ever you see it no matter in your party or not. >> i think we learned a lot about mitt romney in the last 48
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mitt romney might have succeeded in raking in the big bucks at bain capital, but apparently either he's a flat out liar or he just has hard time with his math skills. when it comes to talking about jobs, the romney camp keeps getting it wrong again and again. he keeps distorting what's happened under the last three years under president obama. >> that stimulus he put in place didn't have private sector jobs. it helped government jobs. the one place we should have cut back was on government jobs. >> can i use a time out on that one? did you hear what he said, didn't create jobs. he repeats this over and over again and hoping you will believe it, and it's not true. take a look at this chart. they don't lie. this is the jobless claim since the last year of the bush presidency.
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some of the obama stimulus was past, february of 2009. right there. february of 2009. you can see the job growth, can't you? maybe romney can't. governor romney believes if he just keeps lying about the reality, you're not going smart enough to figure the whole thing out. >> things are getting a little better and the answer is yeah. things are getting a little better in a lot of places in this country, but it's not thanks to his policy, it's in spite of his policies. >> did you hear that? in spite of his policies. let's look at the private sector job growth that team romney can't figure out. the number of jobs under obama has dropped 1.86 million. check this out. that one red line in the chart, right there. see the red lines there, the red line on the chart in january. not one, the lowest point for private sector jobs was on president bush's watch.
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that's 820,000 jobs lost. in february, that's the blue line, the president was still finding his way around the oval office and his family was just getting move into the white house. president obama had been in the office all of 28days when congress passed the stimulus package on february 17th, 2009. that's right there. what happened after that? all this red stuff went away and we started to turn it around. once it kicks in and obama policy start to take effect, you can see what happens. you can see it on the chart. the recession ends in june and 1.2 million jobs have been created. remember, look at when the stimulus kicked in and look at what happened. check these brand new numbers tonight. reuters is reporting the economy's moderate recovery is still on track. still on track, job creation.
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a new reuters survey reveals employers are expected to add 150,000 jobs to their payroll. that's at the same time that europe is dealing with economic crisis and china's economic, their economy is pretty much slowing down. mitt romney thinks that we can't access the truth. on january 7th, romney claimed businesses he bought and sold at bain capital added a net 100,000 jobs. no one has been able to verify that number. the washington post said the figure didn't pass the laugh test. mitt romney, you know what he needs to do. he needs to come clean and give the facts about these hundred thousand jobs that he created. 100 jobs. i doubt it's going to happen. there's a lot more coming up. stay tuned. he doesn't like that issue because it's hitting very close to home. >> donald trump's latest conspiracy theory.
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and where are biggie and tupac? >> welcome back to "the ed show." that was president obama embarrassi ining donald trump l year. the only person better at humiliating him is the donald himself. he proved it on twitter because he said john mccain lost the election because he didn't play the birther card. he proved it on cnn when he claimed barack obama fooled the press to thinking birther attacks don't bother him. >> he uses reverse psychology on people like you so that you report like he's thrilled with it. he doesn't like that issue because it's hitting close to home. he knows it and you know it. >> let's bring in conservative talker joy ann-reid. great to have you with us. michael, true or false. donald trump's conspiracy theory is crazy and he's hurting mitt
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romney? what do you think? >> true. i don't think there's any question about it. ed, as you know and we've known each other a long time, from the beginning, i've always said this birther movement is a disgrace. it's crazy. it was started back with hillary's people as a tool against obama in the primary. then it was picked up by some fringe republicans. there's no reason at all for any serious person to waste brain cells on this stupid theory. >> why doesn't mitt romney disavow him? he doesn't do that. >> he says he has no doubt that barack obama is eligible to be president. he was born in hawaii. he's american born. it's the same reason that barack obama won't distance himself from bill maher or lady gaga or sean penn. >> i think it qualifies as almost connected at the hip. if you're a politician and taking money from someone then you're thinking like them. >> hold on for a minute.
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bill maher gave a million dollars to a super pac on behalf of barack obama. he's done nothing to distance himself. >> this isn't a super pac. bill maher as not held a fund-raiser for barack obama. >> anyone can give money to a super pac. they are not controlled by the president of the united states. you've not seen president obama appearing with bill maher. i love the way the right tries to do the on the right hand, on the one hand. mitt romney is putting his brand on the line to stand next to donald trump. donald trump hosts a reality show. there's nothing about him that is serious that a politician should want to stand anywhere. >> president obama appeared with sean penn and lady gaga. >> last time i checked sean penn was doing charity in haiti.
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>> he's questioned president bush's involvement. >> sorry. michael, that's a completely false equivalency. >> jim, let me get you in here. does this turn off the page independent voters? >> the thing i have a problem with is not only will mitt romney not stand up to donald trump, but he wouldn't stand up to rush limbaugh when he made those disgraceful comments about sandra fluke which was a insult to every woman. >> this is pattern? >> he's got to stand up and lead. i think that includes rejecting this kind of stuff whether it's the birther stuff or the anti-women stuff. the ad that was going to run. >> michael, who does romney stand up to? >> when you say stand up to, rush limbaugh has never been a big supporter. he was critical of him throughout the campaign. he was taking the position anyone but romney. >> you're telling me he's going
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to support obama. >> i hope he will. you can choose your policies. you can choose what you say. you can't choose your supporters. mitt romney said he would have never expressed himself the same way. >> you just reversed yourself. you said you can't choose your supporters but you're claiming barack obama is choosing him in the same way that mitt romney is choosing to go to a close fund-raiser with the embarrassment that is known as donald trump. >> mitt romney is choosing to stand on the stage with donald trump. he's choosing to go to his place to get a fund-raiser going. he is not saying, trump, you're wrong on this birther thing and hurting my came pain. what about that? >> i think he should have done that. i don't see any reason, this $2 million or whatever he is raising is too expensive for mitt romney. he should cancel and dropped out of it. >> romney goes out and releases
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his birth certificate tonight. what's the timing on that? >> my only asujs that it is meant as a joke. look, the truth of the matter is i actually believe that the only side gaining from any conversation about birtherism is obama, which is why he jokes about it very funny. he's right. every time we speak about this, it helps the president. >> you wwhat do you think about joy ann? >> he put together the birther mean. he's not the one bringing it up. you have donald trump who is not a politician or a political leader, really has no reason to be speaking about the presidential election other than he's a celebrity that rom wants to be associated with. i think it's a sign of romney's fear of his ownfear of his ownf.
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>> i think they are trying to do something they have been doing for a long tiemg. it's try to pass this legislation that makes it more difficult to vote. this is america. we should be encouraging people to vote. we shouldn't be passing legislation that disenfranchises elderly people, disabled people and servicemen and women that are serving to protect our country. i think it's disgraceful. they have yet to prove a kind of fraud on that scale that would justify any of the measures they are taking in any of these 22 states. >> we're talking about 180,000 people being thrown off the rolls unless they prove themselves. you saw a world war ii veteran. michael, why are they doing this? it looks like they are trying to suppress the vote especially with the legislation on the
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graphic we showed you. >> the fact if democrats cared about the people, they would recognize that as important as it may be for marginal people to vote, it's even more important they should have some form of i.d. >> are you saying a world war ii veteran is marginal? this is a flawed process. they have wrong information. >> ed, why is it wrong to expect that someone who has to show an i.d. to cash a check or get on an airplane. >> this isn't about voter fraud. >> get people the i.d.s and let them vote. >> michael, this the demographic
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time bomb that republicans understand they are facing in this country where barack obama was able to win the presidency by losing the we are one week away from scott walker's re-election. is that going to happen? we'll see. this is our nation's first major test against the supreme court citizens united ruling. it's going to be a photo finish, and republicans are trying to lie their to the wain the be national rifle association is blasting them. >> barrett voted to blast 15 different kinds of gun, including the deer rifle.
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>> he voted to ban them? >> yeah. >> that commercial is a flat out lie. he never voted to ban deer rifles. he voted to ban 19 semiassault time weapons. included in the ban was assault rifles with grenade launchers. that's always good to go hunting. i don't know too many hunters who hunt with grenade launchers. maybe you do in wisconsin. it turns out scott walker is the biggest threat. it's the state that has a tremendous culture when it comes to the out doors. dr. james crowl is his land picked deer czar. he's got a czar. he's a major supporter of private deer ranches and has called public game management the last bastion of communism. he thinks hunters should have to
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pay big money for land access instead of a license fee. more out of state money is coming in to help walker. the national tea party group put out this highly produced commercial over the weekend. >> governor scott walker is turning wisconsin around and no less than ronald reagan's son has taken vote of his efforts. >> we need leaders like scott walker. he's a reminder of someone named reagan. >> republicans are all in, no doubt. cnn is reporting the koch brothers have placed 70 staffers in wisconsin to celebrate what walker has done. really, a loss of jobs. next week we find out if big money or the will of the people will win out. tonight, i asked does the justice department need to get
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involved in the voter fraud purge. 94% said yes. 6% said no. justice department, what are you waiting for? democrats are going after scott walker, but republicans are still playing dirty. state senator lena taylor has the latest. this country was built by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies have to invest in making things. infrastructure, construction, production. we need it now more than ever. chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars
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election will be decided. the democrats are slamming scott walker with this commercial. >> scott walker said there was no money for schools, but gave a billion dollars to big corporations. >> he just took that money and gave it away. >> he concealed his plan to destroy workers rights. >> he lied about what he was going to do. >> now he won't come clean. top aids accused of crimes, corruption trials, deception and division. unless we replace scott walker, nothing will change. >> republicans are resorting to the same old dirty tricks. think progress is texting out the phone number of tom barrett's campaign headquarters and the text read, tom barrett is a yunion puppet who will giv union thugs every think they want. call and ask why. they flooded his campaign office today. they couldn't get a lot done. joining me tonight is wisconsin state senator lena taylor. good to have you with us.
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the polls are moving. this is closer than it was a week ago. it's well within the margin of error between these two gentlemen despite a 25 to 1 advantage in funding as far as scott walker is concerned. it's now down to who gets their people out. how confident are you that this is going to happen for the democrats? >> i'm very confident that our ground campaign is superb and that there is an effort all over. we're growing votes, so to say. individuals who have not normally come out to vote except in presidential campaigns or individuals who, for example, some wards 2,000 people registered to vote but didn't come out. you have a unified force of people out there knocking on door, canvassing, transporting people to the polls. i just came from doing those kind of things. we're riding buses. we're going everything we need to do to make sure that people are engaged and coming out to
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vote. i feel confident in our ground campaign. >> lena, what do you make of the dirty tricks republicans are using? they are doing everything in the book they can. they are lying in the ads. they are jamming phone lines. they are bringing in governors from other states, which is rather unusual to see this happen in a gubernatorial race. what do you make of all of it? >> don't stop there. they started with trying to deny individuals the right to vote through the voter i.d. legislation when they knew that people did not have the i.d.s and people would not be able to afford them. they later made them available knowing people didn't have birth certificates. suppressing the voting at the polling sites. harassing the workers and making just every moment difficult in that kind of atmosphere. it's an effort to suppress the
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vote. i have to admit, i expect they're going to do that. the governor has shown in his debates that he will not be truthful. trustability is an issue that governor has. i think in the end, i have to believe that the people are going to continue to stand up and the ground campaign is going to be the place, ed, where we determine whether or not we win this race and that's why we have all hands on deck. >> what does it tell you that the nra is telling people in rural wisconsin that barretts going to take their gun when it's walker who has hired the deer czar what wants to limit access to public land? what do you think of that? >> this manipulation of the fact, this flat out lying about various issues is become their way. i'm hoping that through the efforts we're making on the ground, people will recognize. the senate recall
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