well, good monday afternoon to you, i'm dylan ratigan. you may have heard some of the big sunday news. i did receive my ph.d. yesterday, not to mention some news about this program. but the big story today around here, the supreme decision, it is opinion day at the supreme court. but they have put off the fate of the health care law for at least another week with 15 cases also waiting decisions. our money is also on the end of this month for the health care ruling. remember, the court has a few options, throw out the entire law, overturn the individual mandate or keep it intact, three options. everyone from the insurance companies to the white house to congress, not to mention the 7 million young americans currently now insured under their parents' plan awaiting the decision from court. we received two decisions from the court on the terror front today. the justices took a pass on the rights of gitmo detainees, refusion the appeals of seven prisoners, which is odd considering that tomorrow is the fourth anniversary of the

supreme court's landmark ruling in which she said they wanted to allow detainees to challenge their decision, even though they don't want to hear the case. the court today also declined to debate jose padilla's appeal. he is the u.s. citizen and al qaeda recruit who president bush declared an enemy come want tant and con voifblgtd terrorism and said he was tore dmurd a navy brig. here with today's developments and what too expect with the health care law, we start with supreme court correspondent mike sacks, producer of huff post live. what do we need to understand about what it implies for the future and we will come back to the other decisions? >> health care will happen tend of the ternlg the last weekend -- or the last week in june. so, going to be either monday, june 25th, or if the court decides the ad hoc schedule another day that would be probably thursday, june 28th. then fireworks will happen.

>> what are the fireworks on no change? >> right to the political branches. romney will run on repeal. obama will run on the fact his law is constitutional and we will likely have congress howling for the opportunity to take the gee yuillotine that th court wasn't able to do >> the rejection would be full circus, i'm assuming the lowest odds? >> a couple justices, kennedy and scalia, seemed interest interested in doing that, should they hold the mandate unconstitutional but no other justices seemed eager to taken a axe to the whole thing. >> means really you are looking at, even though there's three possibilities, two probabilities, the one being what we just discussed, tauns the whole thing, the other being just indict the individual

mandate.oss the whole thing, the other being just indict the individual mandate. >> another option the solicitor general put forward, strike down the provisions that put the patient protection and affordable care in the patient protection and affordable care act, one that removes bars on insuring people with pre-exi pre-existing conditions and another that really allows for communities to pool the risk and make sure that costs are contained. >> so, and we will see how this goes. >> look at the mandate, you and i listen, the mandate makes sense in the sense that everybody on health care, same way everybody needs car insurance, sort of walk through this, the insurance mathematics of a mandate makes sense, everybody participates, but on the other side, we have mandated

people participate into an unreformed monopoly, there is no choice. this history where it is supposed to be america, competition, choice, or at least not a completely rigged game where we force you to give the dominating party the that controls everything through your money through some sort of a mandate, what's lens of the supreme court? in other words are they teddy roosevelt saying hang on this is a monopoly exploiting its power with the mandate, meaning the health care monopoly or what's their perspective? what's going on here? >> i think if they strike it down and look like they are very likely to do so the mandate at least, at oral argument, they seemed interested in enforcing the limits on our february this is different from car insurance that is something states do the reason romney care is constitutional, without a doubt is because states have the power to do whatever they want for the health and safety and the morals within certain reason. the federal government doesn't have that type of leeway. >> got it. >> they really can only enforce things that have to do with interstate commerce. the question here is whether --

>> one of those -- so the conservative posture is who decides? is this for the federal government to decide is the conservative interpretation. let's talk about some of the other stuff that happened today, of the news headlines that i read off the top there. what is it that we really should understand about the implications of these decisions today, starting with guantanamo? >> so the supreme court kicked the can down to the d.c. circuit, which is the lower federal court, below the supreme court here in d.c. and this d.c. circuit has, since the case four years ago, offering guantanamo detainees a meaningful opportunity to challenge their detention in federal courts, the d.c. circuit has made that vanishingly small of review. like there's no meaningful review really at all in the d.c. circuit because they defer very heavily to what the government says in terms of its evidence that it puts forward to -- in these habeas corpus -- habeas

corpus cases. so the supreme court pretty much blessed the very little meaningful review to detainees. the court has pretty much wiped its hands from oversight on guantanamo. the next step is whether get show going to get closed or not and that is a let cal decision, not a court decision. >> and if you were to look at the padilla case? >> the court is very, very, very unlikely ever to allow someone to go forward with a damages case, trying to get money out of people who violate the constitutional rights and also very reluctant to call tort, anything torture. they don't want to wade into this. they just were afraid to really to step in and this would be a landmine. bradley manning would come up. they would have to expand what torture means, if they want to address this. and also, they would have to start agreeing to give civil damages to anyone who says their constitutional rights have been violated. this is something that an old

court with more robust liberal voices might have entertained but this court would not. >> -- let's think about that. in the context of a country that needs certain mechanisms to deal with the thing no, sir one else wants to deal with, whether it is an utterly corrupted banking system that no one wants to reform, whether it is health insurance monopolies whether it is our nation's relationship with terror, if every -- if the game is to make sure you use your institution to sort of diddle around with these things for a few years and then pass the hot potato to somebody else without ever having to make a decision, in other words, is that really the goal for our government is to avoid talking about anything that might be potentially difficult or shameful for hard to resolve and just pass it around and hope nobody notices? is that the current plan? >> plenty of people have noticed. the problem is the hot potato does keep getting passed around. with padilla, i think they figure that he is now in the civil and criminal law system and no longer being held in the

brig that is okay. that can move forward. and with get mothers perhaps they figure that the detainee population has already been so depleted there and military commissions are now moving forward in a way they find is better than under the bush administration, perhaps they feel there is a modicum of justice going on in these case and no reason to step in. that is the charitable reading that. >> if anybody can try to get inside the nine brains that is your job, pay you at the "huffington post" to do it mike. a great job. one more, arizona versus the united states. arizona's immigration law. obviously, this is great politics. is this the sort of thing that's going to come back and play into the summer headlines? >> it might. the court was looking at oral argument this they were going to split the baby. a couple liberals seemed like they were willing to swallow some of the -- some of arizona's harsher measures, such as the paper please provision, which required police officers to

check the immigration status of anyone they reasonably suspect to be in the country illegally, if they stop that person or detain or arrest that person. the court seemed okay with that so long as the police didn't hold those people too long to violate their fourth amendment rights. it was a kind of legalistic thing they were looking to do i guess, to skirt the politics of the it all. >> like hot potato when you were a kid you except with lots of money and other people's lives. mike sacks, "huffington post" live you can the supreme court man on the scene over at the "huffington post." well done. thank you very much. next up here, the man being held the future british prime minister, the mayor of london is in new york city, my friends. author around quite an entertaining chap, from what i hear, boris johnson, the mayor, joins us on the set right after this. plus -- >> after my election, i have more flexibility. >> more flex billity? good news.

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well this summer, all eyes turn to london, well they should, as they play host to the 2012 olympic games, find occasion, if i don't say so myself. 4 million visitors expected to descend important lovely city.

in time for the festivities, london's newly re-elected mayor is out with a new book "johnson's life of london" takes readers on a witty double-decker-style tour of the history of people that have made london, as he puts it, the city that made the world. joining us, author and may her, boris johnson. how is your time in new york? >> very good, thank you. >> you have quite a reputation. congratulations on the book. this book, by all appearance, the celebration of one of the world's great cities a privilege of running. >> a hymn of praise to londoners who helped make the city and, i would humbly submit, the world. and -- >> i would agree with you. >> you would? >> life-long new yorker, and i would fully concede that i believe london is actually the center if piece, certainly for the west. >> democracy, happiness, all things. >> lay on t come with t. >> american -- the french had a row. the french had a role but it was

18 -- >> speak french though. >> they speak french. and why did the language you and i speak originate? london. >> thank you. >> geoffrey chaucer, you will find him there ping pong, correct. >> flushing toilet. >> flushing toilet. >> the flushing toilet. think about that. >> in a london bosh rogue of richmond invented by man called john harington, why in america it is still called the john. >> really? >> correct. did you know that? >> i didn't. >> i bet you -- i bet your viewers didn't know that. >> none of us. what else do you got? i think -- >> it is a cornucopia of riches. about what makes a city and the comparisons between london and new york are very obvious because they are both dynamic. >> you think we should put in a bunch of cameras and do the whole pay money to go in the midtown? >> no one of the reasons i kept getting elected, i took that out >>. >> really? >> yeah. yeah. no wonder you are so popular. that was easy to get in. >> it was. but i tell you, it is very

regressive tax. >> paying to come into the city? >> you pay, if you charge drivers to come into the city and i know that they tried it here it is okay for people in limos but really hits -- >> crushing. crushing. i get it. olympics. are you ready? >> it is going to be fantastic and delighted that you are coming. you told me just now before we went on air. >> i didn't know. apparently. >> invited you. now formally and specifically tell you, otherwise invited. >> until the e-mail comes from your staff saying the mayor's invitation to the olympics really was just for television purposes. >> i hope that -- >> i would be delighted. i would be delighted. can we have a little more serious conversation for just a moment? you play with me and i appreciate that, but you -- there is a seriousness. >> go on. >> we know the big bill, a big bill is coming due in europe. >> sure. >> we know that that big bill was invented really at the same

time that the big bill america paid in 20 08 with bob ruben and alan greenspan in the '90s, create currencies, borrow money against it, create the debt and be wonderful and greece and europe is the subprime bar, give people all this money? are you crazy? and now the big bill coming through, only three people that can pay it, for the audience at home, make this easy for everybody. big bill coming due in europe, 100 billion, who knows, three rich uncles left that can pay the bill, the first rich uncle, who is the one facing now, is ultimately the ecb, printing your rose and sort of working with this, they are the rich uncle keep this thing together. >> yeah. >> and now there's talk of trying to go to the german rich uncle, the people of germany. why should the people of germany stay in why should they play? >> dylan, i will explain it to you very simply. it is the only rational solution. >> bill? uncle germany? >> uncle -- >> i don't mean to put words in your mouth. but the german taxpayer? >> i will tell you why.

because the euro zone is not an optimal currency zone t is a bad idea. you have countries that can't compete with -- toe-to-toe. >> never could, never would. >> union labor costs are always going to be too high italian car industry massacred, german machine tools being sported effortlessly around the european union, they are destroying, economically speaking, it is very, very good for them. they can export. >> for germany. >> germany is growing. now, if they want that currency zone, which allows them to do that to continue, then i believe that they should pay. and that's the argument. now, the difficulty is that you're then going to have to force the recipient >> italy. europe. >> into economic subjection. >> that is a big thing.

look at the history, 1930s, germany's on the hook, we all know the story, huge unemployment, they are printing money in germany to pay off world war i. >> sure. >> finally, they are like, listen, you know that whole raischmark thing? forget it going deutschmark. it is a unique road and impossible to suggest is in our future. at the same thing, do we not learn anything when we look at how this was resolved 50 years ago. >> 50 years ago. >> marshall plan. you had to cancel debt. german any needed debt fore bear rance, everybody had to get off the hook before this was -- >> the only way to do that is devalue the debt. >> that would hit the big banks in china? >> that would. really what we are doing at the moment is we are all coasting along, coasting, hoping, endless kicking the cannon sense, hoping and hoping that growth will return. the par zox that growth won't return until the euro zone problem is resomed one wire the

other. the balloon's got to burst. my view is, i'm afraid, and this is not a view that is supported by any european government at the moment, my view is that the euro has got to break up, they have to have a bisection, some sort of orderly revaluation. >> isn't it better to do something like that in a meeting than to pretend it's not happening until it is too late? >> yes, why doesn't someone show some guts and actually -- >> about it? >> i'm just -- i'm just a mayor of london. there are plenty of important texts in this book, of course, how to solve a major currency crisis. and indeed, there are plenty of people like samuel johnson and john wilkes -- >> have this meeting. >> in this book, immediately called william shakespeare, geoffrey chaucer. >> the first ones. >> shakespeare would not have allowed the euro crisis to develop in the way that it is. >> the mayor stays. you can see that he is a good sport, if nothing else. we really appreciate that. thank you very much, mr. mayor.

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why couldn't you think about being prime minister? you could if you wanted to. >> well, i suppose i could. as you have already pointed out, i could be president of the united states. you know, there's no -- [ laughter ] [ applause ] technically speaking. but there -- there are limits to the credulity of our audience. >> you think the hair is holding you back? honestly? >> well, we are back with the man known as britain's most popular politician who was, in fact, born in america. >> not very hotly contested. let's be clear.

there are not many -- even if it were true, which it isn't, by the way, there aren't many -- >> one of those things, i'm host of the highest rated 4 p.m. show in the history of msnbc, but there's never been any other 4 p.m. show on msnbc. nice to show the prestige. hold back no longer. >> i am so honored that you are here it is fantastic. >> glad to be here. >> a question about -- talking to dylan about saudi arabia. >> saudi arabia. >> the only team -- >> this sounds like -- >> comes to play. >> this will be the only team arriving in london without any women. also welcoming syria to the olympics this summer. as a londoner, i'm feeling -- i don't feel that they should be welcomed in my city. your view? >> well, on syria -- >> yes. >> i can't tell you exactly what the plans, it is under discussion with the ioc and with the london committee for the games. so we just have to see how all that plays out.

on saudi, i don't know about what the -- is it really true they will be arising without a single -- you know that? >> they have announced -- >> she has been ranting on my show about it, quite offended. >> only team without a woman t is a disgrace. every other team is turning up with one and why are we not turning away from border control? >> i guess it's because, obviously, they will, by this folly, make it easy for british female athletes to medal. >> self-interest. by queen's orders. >> it is nothing to do with the fact that you co-signed a $3 billion arms deal with them? >> i really -- i don't. i haven't -- whatever arms deal has been done, i want you to know probably immaterial to the athletics event. we try as much as possible, i mean, just for -- we try to keep politics out of the olympics because if you think about it you have got the -- 192 nations coming. you have got more nations than there are in the u.n. for some

reason i can't quite remember. now, they are all -- some of them are mutually fiercely antagonistic, in almost dozens of cases, there are secession t secessionists, moors, problems around the world. if you introduced those politics to the olympic games, which are meant to be a great global festivity of sport, fellowship and all the rest of it you rapidly wreck the whole thing. >> so that's -- i understand the points that you're making, good points, just difficult to satisfy them. >> you guys have your own -- the wall street of europe, right, the city of london, you call it, a financial center. >> do call it the city of london, but that is its name. it has been there a long time. it is quite a -- place. >> how are the city -- >> thought you just made it up. >> how will the city be affected -- >> i call it. i didn't just baptize it the city of london t has been the city of london since -- >> how would it be affected

by -- >> roman times. >> a europe collapse? >> as you will find out in "johnson's life." state of london was founded by a bunch of bushy italian immigrants called the romans and they built this wall, now really the square mile of the city. >> yes. >> it has been there for 2,000 years. >> i'm using it in the metaphor cal sense, referring to your financial sector, would your banks be able to survive? would the other financial companies be able to survive a euro breakup or any defaults or de facto defaults? >> dylan and i were just talking about this problem and i think it's very severe. the difficulty is that everybody in the european political financial establishment, particularly the bankers, the bank, are determined to keep the thing going, otherwise, they fear that in the current -- in the implosion, they individually, the bank, will lose money and i can see their point of view, and they will. but unless you have some sort of resolution, you will never end [ inaudible ] >> the threat of a breakup or

defaults is that already having an effect on the bankers in london? >> yes. i mean, well, i think what's happening at the moment is not so much an impact on the bankers but the impact is on the confidence in the wider economy and you're seeing that here in america. i think president obama, the difficulties that you're seeing in the american economy, confidence, job creation, is partly a function of uncertainty about what's going to happen in the euro zone. and my point is you are never going to end the uncertainty until you deal with the basic structural problem. >> you have the shakespeare meeting. >> you have the shakespeare meeting and you allow for an orderly exit of the countries that i'm afraid have born proved simply unable to cope that is the mediterranean periphery countries. >> i have a question about how you manage your city, a big protest, uk uncut last year. >> yep. >> in this city, when we have protests against banks and

corporations, the mayor sends the police essentially to harass protesters even before the protests. i'm curious if you guys -- if you don't engage in the same practice in london? >> not harass. we wouldn't harass. we might go and have some polite discussions with them about their intentions if they wanted to disrupt a big event like the royal wedding or the jubilee. >> what if they were just going out to protest, you know? in this city, there's been -- >> that's fine. that's fine. on the day of the jubilee, it was fantastic, you may have seen the kind of reverse dunkirk flotilla we had. >> major, major glory. did you see this? >> i missed some of t. >> a lot of rain. and more than 1,000 boats going down the tales and the whole royal family, everybody getting very wet. it was just wonderful, but we allowed protests. there was a bunch of people saying monarchy, monarchy,

monarch kirk out, out, out. there was only about 100 of them and 1.3 million supporters. >> uk uncut, you had hundreds of house to a suddens of protests or tens of thousands? >> not as many as hundreds of thousands but certainly there were quite a few. we have 5,000 protests every year on the streets on london and the public pays a lot of money to make sure they take place as safely as possible. >> the cultural history of exactly that if you look at speakers corner, you look at your books look at hyde park, look at the cultural history, forget rules and resources, the cultural history of both debate and speaking out -- >> it's all -- >> in england. >> correct. and if you think about it a guy like john wilkes, has anybody heard of john willings? >> no. >> you never heard of him? imogen? >> really bad now, aren't i? >> john wilkes. i found it -- this guy was

instrumental. he was incredibly important in enshrining free speech, habeas corpus, the independence of the judiciary, the right of the people, the people, not of parliament, to decide who should sit in barrelment. and he support the american colonists against george iii when he was mayor of london and actually was gun running, mayor of london. >> excellent. >> i thought you might like that. >> on behalf of the -- >> from that perspective, when you look at that history you where are we today in modern political fill loss, if i modern social economic philosophy where we are in this -- everybody is playing hot potato? everybody is throwing it down the road? when your country and really ours and most of the west has some history, greece. my goodness attempting to force resolution? >> the problem is the solution we are adopting is a

fundamentally anti-democratic solution. and that's what's so worrying about what's being proposed, because we are saying to the greeks and to the irish and the spanish and whatever, look, do all this in the name of staying in the euro and we will look after you, we will bail you out. in the end people want voting, somebody in germany or bulls ares decides what our spending and tax policies will be, people are losing their jobs under austerity measures basically imposed by angela merkel or whatever, that has a very toxic kind of feeling if you're in greece. >> interesting politics, mr. mayor, thank you for coming out, certainly a delight to have a man who you know, likes to have a chat. >> thank you very much r >> boris johnson, megapanel stays, you guys are going to come back later. all the best. enjoy yourself.

>> am i dismissed. >> see you at the olympics look forward to the e-mail. >> offer can not now be rescinded. >> i'm gonna send you -- >> i think it was pretty vague, wasn't it? >> you invited me to watch them on television, wherever i was. dylan, find a television. you can turn it on the >> but it is a point i make to all our viewers, they all have a great time in london this summer. >> yes, and they will, or they will -- >> and if they are -- >> watching television u. >> and if there are any protests -- >> boris johnson, here is the book, "johnson's life of london," you can see the character before your eyes. straight ahead, it is grant after on time for us here a this. ♪ how are things on the west coast? ♪

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our best producers to this day. so eloquently, he asked at the end of last year's emergency 4:30 conference call, what the fazaka. let me set the scene, sunday, grant situation, union college, my alma mater, sun is shining. i was set to give my first ever commencement address, giving me a doctorate, admiration for my dedication to economic justice and the commitment to create fairness, a privilege and an exciting day. they presented me with a doctorate of humane letters, honaris causa. hang on, almost choked me there then i did my best not to embarrass myself at my first commencement. there are seductions out there both based on hero worship and val lanny. media loves to do it politics

love to do, people love to do it. there are no knights in shining armor, there is no sinister cabal. in the end, with collective collaboration and the spirit to fail it is us, individually, who are the heroes of our own stories. if you taken a inventory of what you have and what you don't, make sure you put at the top of the lithe integrity of your relationships and the trust to talk to each other. it is your most valuable currency. meanwhile, i am enjoying the afternoon, unbeknownst to me, brian, who is effectively the stud reporter over at the "new york times" media decoder blog, was hot on the tail of a story that i was about to quit and take my phone out after the ceremony, always a mistake to look at your phone, i might add, and find out that brian wants a statement, am i leaving msnbc to do something i'm not going to do that i'm not doing. work it out. brian gave us time, we scrambled the jets, get the staff on the phone, let them know what is going on, our director is flipping burgers, thank you,

brian, screwed him up, having a nice day at the pool, producers, mary and john, out at the beach there is mary, chris was traveling, tracy, there is john, our executive producer, steve, meanwhile, there's chris, watching the yanks. trying to enjoy a sunday you okay, brian? so we get on the staff with the phone at 4:30, and for all of you, look -- these guys really just unbelievable, there's brian there. here is the fazaka. my last day on the air is the 22nd of this month. if you want the full explanation, you can head to dylanratigan.com. check on beyond talk, my transition letter, phil griffin, incred anybody this transition and inkrepdible hosting myself and the staff over the past three years has a statement up there as well. so, too, is a copy of the pot of gold speech from union. and as i told brian, once you have said your peace, you can either keep saying it or decide what you're going to do about t and for me, the opportunity over

the next months to learn from those that are leading us to reveal new ways to get a lot more for a lot less, again, twice as much food, 90% less water, the statistics are too thrilling to pass up and i have really no choice for me to learn more about it and you can't do both at the same time, this show and that so anyway, at the end of the conference call with the "dr show" all the scrambling, the frantic calls, the e-mails, not to mention the morning of commencement, the crisis or at least the news have been cycled through, dom's cookout was a hit, our producers went took their families and friends and the beach, the yankees rallied to sweep the mets and we get to spend the next couple of weeks talking about the transitions, of course, we will save most of that for a week from friday and i get to spend the next few months looking for a plan for whatever is next. to those of you at home, i thank you for educating me, for sharing your ideas and your passion with me. again, two road shows, 27

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>> even i don't know. did you not read -- i don't know. these are questions even i can't answer. >> i'm thinking tom hanks in that movie where he was stranded on the island by the end with the volleyball. >> really? >> i got to say, i have been in your office trying to steal ties. >> okay. this is a good time to do it. another guy who expressed relief, nate who works security here at "30 rock," says often you get off the elevator not wearing a tie shortly before the show and just sort of signal. >> i do then i borrow his tie. my backup tie is nathan, who is a military veteran, works about 15 feet from where we are sitting, and sometimes i will not have a tie. but they don't like you to host tv shows all the time without ties. so, you got to find the nearest person with a tie. and -- >> now his tie is safe. >> and listen, he just wanted to get on tv any way, listen, you are not going to get on tv, but your tie will.

your tie is. we will carry on more about this next week. >> the last show a week from this friday, june 22nd, but not now, no secret our politicians spend the vast majority of time running for office, raising money, fund raising is really the gig, the more money you raise, the more power you get, whatever it is as long as it is not governing. what happens when any politician actually stops running and actually has to start working? a big question being posed by the obama re-election team. senior advisers are arguing that they can address immigration, climate change, nuclear proliferation and tax reform on the president's to do list if he comes back for round two. what do you say, tim? maybe just one more time, next time we will do t bheefrnlts stopped talking about climate in june 2009. he doesn't say the word. talk about green energy. >> saying after the the politics, emdo everything. he might even do the banks, trade. >> dealing with one republican chamber of congress and they are not going to want to deal with

it. he has things he can do by executive order or he can make try to implement climate subsidies, epa rules, check off his kill list without congressional -- he can do foreign policy, uncoincidentally, where most presidents try to make their second term impact, foreign policy, congress handed them the ball. i think the chance of him accomplishing anything with congress are slim. >> tim or sam, your interpretation of -- >> i think it's always hard to know what a president is going do. good politics, there is a vacuum. mitt romney has not been talking about anything he is going to do, i don't know fess going out and campaigning, he's made four campaign stops in the last week and a half or something and they are just hoping it will be a referendum on obama, leads -- creates a vacuum, obama can speak of an agenda. i don't know how much he will actually pursue and i suspect that tim is right. republicans quite good at stopping things from happening.

>> a difference between talk, show and tell, thins president is very good talking about it mixed rezeus terms of showing it. that has become a cultural trend that goes well beyond this president. at what point does the tolerance saying anything start to collapse because people simply need to see actual collective action? >> on action but some levels, extraordinary how powerless the most powerful man in the world is in the second term if obama gets a second term. he will be depending on germany what germany does with the euro zone, a huge impact in america, no control over what merkel does. >> behalf i havian taxpayers. >> supreme court and obama care. he doesn't have any control offer what the supreme court does. and of course, over congress. he is going to be very limited to what he can achieve if he does win a second term. >> i ask what has he done to try to play to the swing voter and what has he done different than

he promised. the foreign policy stuff, i don't think he was invading libya, i don't think he is ordering drone strikes, i don't think he is keeping guantanamo open for the sake of playing to the swing voter, i think he has been changed in that direction. you what is will he do once he -- what is the term -- >> wwod what would obama do? >> what would he do when he has more freedom? >> doesn't have to run, doesn't have to campaign. >> more flexibility was his term what will he do then? i don't know. sam, you might know bhaert his sort of nature is that he has been hiding to win over swing voters in. >> oddly enough, i don't have the ac sets to white house one might expect. i don't know what his -- i really don't know. a big question, a lot of people on the left very concerned about his off other of a grand bargain that was reported in "washington post" to speaker boehner. we are relying on the republicans complete intransigence to protect things like social security and

medicare, otherwise that could be on the table, hopeful think won't be t depends on whether or not the democrats take the leverage they have. i think a lame duck this year is going to be those period of months between november and december are going to be incredibly tenuous, we don't know what's going to happen there. it remains to be seen. at least someone is presenting an agenda, whether or not it is going to go forward. >> this is what it's come to. >> got to start with something. >> somebody gave us a list. i don't know if they can do what's on it, we will talk about what's on the list. thank you, notes on sunday. let's have a fun couple of weeks and see what happens after that. so enjoy your afternoons. up here, all about the benjamins, kelly goff with a rant, right after this. cr that's good morning, veggie style. hmmm.

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it is a monday, kelly is here. she has a rant and the floor, my lady is yours. >> thanks, dylan. for the last couple of week, hip-hop mogul p. diddy faced kreutz cism for an unusual reason. he apparently raised a great kid. his son, justin, was recently awarded a football scholarship to ucla, something that sparked outrage amongst some because of his father's immense wealth, here is the media story light. i personally don't buy the hype. the reason, diddy's son is not the first wealthy celebrity kid to win a scholarship. denzel washington's son, john, was awarded a football scholarship, although not met with the same backlash. why have diddy and his kid been the subject of so much criticism in the answer most likely lies with diddy himself. while denzel washington is best

known for his acting, he is known for his fill lan throb pill. in addition to donating to fisher houses organization for the families of wounded veterans, he and his wife donate generaliously to morehouse college with where his son was awarded a scholarship. washington tried to turn down the scholarship on his son's behalf. the college rightly stated that the scholarship was offered to his son and therefore, for him to accept or decline, not his father. but washington made sure to donate to the school anyway so that either students who were not as privileged as his son could afford to go did down the other hand has been nicknamed the king of bling by some media outlets for his love of, you guess it had, showy jewelry, car and clothes, he famously or infamously purchased his son a mayback, a car that cost his son $300,000 for his 16th birthday and another for his 17th. in other words, did i did not someone known for his grace or generosity when it comes to his wealth and that, not the fact that his son was awarded a scholarship, is what really has rubbed people the wrong way. there is something distasteful

about people with enormous wealth who seem to display it in a vulgar american while simultaneously displaying little empathy for those have less than they do the reason why ann romney faced crime criticism for wearing $900 shirt. she has every right to wear what she want bus when her husband makes comments about firing people but when the americans fired by someone like him and struggling to find $900 for the rent are not going to celebrate your fashion-forward shirt, like some americans are sol knot celebrating justin combs scholarship no matter how well deserved it may be. dylan? >> anything positive in this in the sense that we are sort of moving to i wouldn't say positive. is there something in that cultural shift looking more and more through the lens of, again, two sets of rules, effectively not through -- not even so much through race, gender, et cetera, but through the relationship with money and culture? >> absolutely. i'm so glad you brought that up. i have a column on 21.com, get

the plug in someone extremely wealthy, didn't authorize their name being used, their son passed up a scholarship for the very reason. >> culture more than rules that make it happen. >> a cultural thing this person defines himself as a fiscal conservative, fascinating, right? i think you are right we seeing a shift in how we talk about the moral responsibility versus legal and ethical responsibles the when it comes to this 1%, 99%. >> money as a function of snag is a money -- money follows a cultural path as opposed to the illusion that rules and regulations dictate money, people -- money -- get around rules any day with money. >> we know we can't legislate good behavior, right? we can only hope people want to do the right thing and i think why this story struck a chord there is a sense of try to do the right thing, set the right example. >> i can see it there well said. thank you very much. >> thank you for having month show. this generous platform you have given to so many people. >> a few more weeks left, we have -- they only, you know, got to finish this thing off. >> with a bang. all of the -- >> come on.