bought and it's just staggering to have someone like mitt romney accuse the president of c kowtowing to the unions, which he has not. never menging the fact that the man is theo recipient, going to be the recipient of hundreds of millions of dollars and they're not going to demand anything for him? >> bring up the fact that obama has done more for the banks than anybody by covering up the theft and ignoring the spire thing not to mention not engaging the chinese and of course, his willingness to ignore the housing crisis. >> you and i will have to disagree. >> it's a matter of fact. i love that people think it's a matter of opinion as to whether we have capital requirements. not that you do think that. your opinion, martin, but a lot of people, well, his opinion ask we need capital. well, yes, that is my opinion as

much that your heart needs to be that you're going to be alive. >> my opinion is that the show starts right now. >> that's right. good afternoon. today's big story, duelling band-aids for a ship that needs a new direction. today, the president and mitt romney in the same state with very different messages. each telling buckeye voters that they are the man with a plan to fix the economy. >> both parties have laid out their policies on the table for all to see. what's holding us back is a stalemate in washington between two fundamentally different views of which direction america should take. and this election is your chance to break that stalemate.

>> you may have heard that president obama is on the other side of the state and he's going to be delivering a speech on the economy. he's doing that because he hasn't delivered a recovery for the economy. and he's going to be a person of eloquence as he describes his plans for making the economy better. but don't forget, he's been president for three and a half years. and talk is cheap. action speaks very loud. >> well, anybody that's watched this show knows that the changes this economy needs are not going to be found in either of these campaign speeches. in fact, both of these candidates have vastly more in common when it comes to banking, trade and tax policy. they want a centralized government which secretly takes money and controls tax, trade and bank policy based on the financing provided to them by their particular financing allies. the rest of us want a trans parent network with one set of rules which is to the disadvantage of both contenders

and their ability to grant power to the financers they are trying to curry favor from. we are now joined by a man who does know what economic reform looks like. former chairman of president clinton's economic advisers and has a new book -- in stores now. do you think folks don't understand the danger of perpetuating and ignoring? i feel like we're on apollo 13 pretending like it's okay. >> i'm very much of the view that americans have not understood either the extent to which inquality has grown to the point where we are the most unequal of any advanced industrial countries. we are the country with the least opportunity of any of the countries for which there's data. i don't think they understand either the consequences of this. the consequences for our economy

and the broader consequences for our politics an our society. >> i would layer on, i also don't feel like having watched years of political depate and policy debate from central banksers and politicses that they have the captionty to debate it in a way that gives us the quantum resource expansions that are going to be necessary to get out of this mess. in other words, we end up back at tax or cut. but we never actually end up at restructure the system to release more potential. >> you're absolutely right. and that's why for instance equality for opportunity is to important. if those born to poor parents, less educated parents, don't have a chance to get the education, not only is it a betrayal of our american ideals, but it's a waste of our most important resource, our human resources. >> but not only that -- please continue. >> well, the real problem of our economy right now is a lack of

demand. and if we could have some stimulus investments in infrastructure, in technology, in education, it will do two things. provide the foundation for future growth, but it will increase employment today. it will even give more tax revenue that will help put our fiscal house in order. >> if you were to look at those who are getting more for less, whether it's in food, energy, crime fighting, education, they tend to have one thing in common, which is they do really good first step work. in other words, before they plan, before they make their lists. the folks that get the more for less that are really going to need here tend to do really good mission analysis. they do a really ruthless evaluation of what they have, what they don't have. they try to come up with new ways to arrange resources. do things like hot spot, all the

things we sort of talk about. why is it that our leaders don't show more of that first step characteristic before they go with some plan to better do a ruthless evaluation of our choices, which seems to be a critical prerequisite. >> well, not only do they have to have a critical analysis of choices, they have to have the right diagnosis of what the the problems are and that's sometimes difficult. one of the problems of the united states is this persistent inquality. another quote related problem is the fact our society is going through a structural transformation and markets don't do that well on their own. >> but so in other words, let's prum obviously we're in a friendly court. that people who watch this show up to this point know my narrative. they likely know what your narrative is. they probably agree with us, okay. or at least would like to -- and

at this point, the frustration, my frustration, okay, we get it. what should the next thing that we do be? in other words, i know i can yell at my politician, blame the republicans or democrats, but that's becoming remarkably impotent. what do you suggest. s ? >> what do we do now? >> i think the fundamental problem in your political process is the influence of money. we are increasingly democratic political system more described by one dollar, one vote, than one person one vote. when that happens, the politicians line up to please whoever is giving them the most money and there's an element of this in both parties, but the consequence of that is there's the absence of the diagnosis. the absence of a reasoned analysis and the result of that is we have a very, you know,

solving problems on a moment by moment basis. >> and when you go to a crisis response basis, going back to the marine corps, mission analysis, planning, run this. and even in a crisis, they always do the first step. even in a crisis. and in civilian life, it seems that we use the excuse of a crisis, which is the only catalyst for planning an execution in our society to forgo all vision analysis as if we're still in 1820 and that there may not be, i heard they might have been invented some new things since 1820. should we take some time to evaluate and learn those? no. let's go straight to crisis planning, which seems to be the most dangerous behooifr a country could exhibit. >> part of the problem here is too often, we're not rooted in

principals and too often, we don't do the kind of preparation we need before the crisis. so, for instance, for the 2008 crisis, we should have thought about what are the consequences of having too big to fail banks, of this increasing inquality in our society? if we had a crisis, it was clear we were heading to, i have said it and a number of other people have said it, if you see yourself going in that direction, you start doing scenario analysis. what happens if this? what do we do if the crisis takes this turn? it was clear our leaders didn't do that and so in that moment of crisis, they didn't think about can we use this crisis to address the long-term problems as even as we address the short one. the absence of that kind of analysis was so evident as we just poured money into the

banks, didn't get the economy going again and the economy still remains weak. >> tie a ribbon on this. it's 2012. we're about to deliver a multihundred billion dollar bill either to the taxpayers of t the -- dragy of the central bank, he's only going to call our friends of new york and you've got to division of greece and germany, when it would make sense for them to partner with each other and partner with wob aru bob reuben and i do not understand why the leadership in europe is not saying no, no, no, don't give me your little cia, we'll fikt with each other and pretend we don't know where the pile of dog poop came from, it came from a laboratory in washington, d.c. in 1998 and

1999. >> i think part of it is that the looters do not want to admit the euro was a flawed concept. it was a problem from the start. they should have realized that if you're going to have a common currency, you have to have a broader economic integration. you have to have a european like financial system. you have to have a european like way of funding debt. many of us said the euro will work when things are good. the real test of the euro is in the event of a downturn, event of a crisis. of course, the united states delivered to the world a very big crisis, but our turned out to be correct. the euro is not working. that is when the countries in the region are facing a period of enormous adjustment. >> last question.

one sentence. i mean this is the last question. you've written that you're well studied. you are a leader, a thought leader for all of us in this field. you have written a book, the price of inquality, which means you have a very thorough comprehension in your own mind of what the price is. know thag you are an expert in the price of inquality and what the implied price could be, would you rather pay that price or rather reduce inequality given the choice? >> that's a softball. clearly, we need to reduce inequality. >> pay it, man. >> the point of the book is that the argument of the right, of the conservatives is that inequality is necessary for economic growth. my argument is the extent of inequality that is reached in the united states is actually bad for our economy.

it's actually weakening our dwrout so if we did something about kind of inequality we have, the distortions, we will have a better economy. >> congrats on the publication and work you're doing now. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we got to think about it. pay the price, reduce. coming up, auction 2012 continues. the cash keeps flowing in, but where is it headed and what do you do with a billion bucks when you're running for president? plus, we'll bring you interesting reporting on what lawmakers do with leftover campaign money even after the campaign's over. and then a little later, you know we're set here to embark on

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no doubt that 2012 will be the most expensive election in history. president obama's raised more than a half a billion dollars and romney's not far behind ch by november, both are expected to cross the billion toll lar

mark because hey, what do they care? secret money's around and you can spend it how you want. so, how do you actually spend a billion dollars trying to sell yourself to the american people to ensure they don't actually real that the entire thing is being bought by the same people for both politicians essentially. if you're mitt romney, you at the campaign trail friending you're not going to do the same things banks as every other president in an old fashioned bus tour. if you're president obama, you pretend you've done something about banks, trading and taxes on a three-year bus tour, but then you take money from people because then they wouldn't give you any money. with all the talk about that money and the politics, aren't there more cost effective and message effective ways to campaign in this internet age that may be vastly cheaper and more effective? our megapanel joins us.

there has to be, ari, a mechanism. i can get you twice as much food for 90% less soil an dirt just by getting the water to the right place at the right time. eastern 50% more, just by figuring out your brain solves problems. give it to you half baked, get the the clear mission and work it out. bang. there's got to be a way to get a political message that almost ridicules this and just is viral for free. i don't know how that happen, but there's a point where this almost seems -- susan. let me hear the optimist. >> the problem is that politicians have been told over an over you've got to go one thing. put money on television and if you're opponent is winning, go to negative on television. that costs a lot of money. >> so if you're losing, you pay to go negative. >> you actually cannot spend unlimited money on television. >> forget the limits. >> the culture -- the use of

money is assassination. >> but then here's the problem. talking about these billion dollars. you're not going to spend a billion on television. you're going to try and get that tree looking message by micro targeting, so you set up very costly, very extremely direct, so i know what book you read and what message i should send you. i >> and it's a very expensive -- intelligence operation. that's what the money buys. >> and now, plus government makes it easy. now, you can text your campaign contribution. the only thing is that you can actually give them money. >> you agree with that, jimmy? the messaging may not cost as much, but susan basically saying we're financing for the campaigns are financing an intelligence gathering operation on what the voter wants to hear

so they make sure they tell them what they want to hear so they just vote for them then you can do what the the people bought you want you to do any way. >> you have to convince the unconvinced, but convince them to come out and vote. that is the one thing we saw in wisconsin the republicans did better than the democrats. this last time. however, i would suggest to you that the obama campaign did something revolutionary in 2008 and they are poised to do it again. whether or not the republicans have caught wind of it and can do it nationally is another issue. but if you can pinpoint block by block of streets in america and you can get those people to vote, via new ways, text messages, whatever. facebook messages. good ole african-american churches getting people on

buses. all the tv ads in the world. mute. >> but very expensive to do what you're talking. could be more expensive than the money they'll spend on television ads. >> bigger point here, which is everything we're talking about is using marketing and brain research that goes back to people like claude and the lizard brain and how do people respond in order to manipulate the electorate into thinking you're the right guy such that you have to do absolutely nothing that actually address ing the rampant corruption. and i guess as the awareness of this goes up, it's one thing if claude in 1988 knows how to have a meeting and work it out. it's another thing it's 2012 where the awareness of the lizard brain manipulation tactics that are being deployed is only expanding and the frustration from the deprived,

even if you believe the lizard talk, the reality of the lack of food sh lack of jobs, lack of schools, massive wealth inquality, everybody's killing each other around the world, is evidence of the fact that whatever these yee has are saying, they're not doing it and that is going to revolve itself one way or the other. >> two things. one, politics is about manipulation. it's getting worse because what you're seeing is the people that have rigged the system can now spend whatever they want to protect what they have. so thus we're not having a conversation about how to solve these problems. we're having a conversation about people pumping hurrica iif millions of dollars in to protect what's theirs. >> like financing the government to prevent electricity. that would be a stupid thing to do. any way. nice to see you guys. straight ahead, developing news out of egypt. if you thought the turmoil was over, think again.

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developing new, the military back in charge in egypt after the country's highest court dissolved parliament, also ruling today that the prime minister can remain on the ballot. both decisions sparking -- the news today, a giant blow for the muslim brotherhood. a group once outlawed in egypt which has made major political gains since mubarak was ousted some 16 months ago. meantime, a humanitarian crisis continues to unfold in syria. our specialists today can speak to what's happening in both countries. george a. lopez is at the university of notre dame and professor, i know that you know that the cycle of tolerance and

acceptance in global society tends to run in waves. we go to a cycle, a lot of killing of each other, then we become more tolerant. then we trend back towards intolerance and kill a bench of people. in the cycle of murdering, where do you think we are right now? >> well, i think we're at a global cross roads here in s syria. we have two upcoming meetings between the russians and americans. the first next week really about iran, but it's held in moscow. just as secretary clinton and mr. putin are kind of at really odds about how much russia is supporting syria and how much russia is responsible for the style and lethality of the killing. r particularly about these attack helicopters. then of course, president obama meets mr. putin at the economics summit a couple of days later, so it's coming down to a big

power confrontation. will there be a humanitarian corridor established? will the cease fire blow because the big powers guarantee it or will this fall through the cracks and have more and more killing. >> those are the two choices? if you were in charge of a meeting right now at this cross roads, who would be in it and what would our choices be? >> i think i'd call the russian bluff or the russian plan of last weekend and say let's do this. let's have the regional conference. let's bring all the the actors together because historically, you don't get a piece in a near civil war situation unless all the neighbors are involved. in this case, the neighbors are involved because all of them reflect the different factions. others that are fighting it out on the ground. the second thing i'd do is say to the russians if we say yes to the regional conference, let's

get the security council to pass the syria's arms e embargo and let's get the red cross without there being a big enfridgement on sovereignty, a situation where say the the 26,000 people who fled their city yesterday because of the terrible shells have a place for food, water and taking care of their wounded. >> i want to switch the topic to egypt. it's so distressing what is happening there for all of us that watch the news. what leverage does the u.s. have in this situation now? >> well, i think it's a situation of the one phone call. that is it's either the secretary of state or the president, head of military council and say look, whatever disagreements we have with the timing or the shady circumstance of the decision, you have to assure the people that the election is going forth in the next two days. that this isn't to countera

revolutionary coup. one of the things up for grab ss this kind of counter coup and really structure the institut n constitution in a way in which there's not a civilian control over the military. >> so to switch back to syria. richard engel, our international reporter who's in egypt now and i both said we need to embarrass the russians. as you've also said, call their bluff. say we do this. we agree to this conference and we call their bluff. what happen ifs they don't stop sending helicopters and arming the syrians? what happen ifs they do that and they just doing the same and the middle east continues to remain a massive turmoil and we have like a separate arab spring

going into the summer? zpl i think it happens at the table to lead to that ruggen decision is critical. if iran, turkey and other neighbors decide that a 90-day cease fire and enforcing arms embargo is something that's really, really important, then it puts the russians really in a corner. different from the u.s. just going nose to nose with them. it gives us much more leverage if the regional powers decide this might be worth a try. secondly, i think we have to remind the russians behind those closed doors with putin and obama, they actually don't have much control an predictability about what mr. assad is going to do. they may have the desire for continued sea port base, but at the end of the day, mr. assad's going to do what he wants to do with or without russian support and i think a little tactics one-on-one, there's a day in which this is a monoo e

mono with putin and the the president. >> i agree. thank you very much. professor. susan, you want to take us home on this? this is the stickiest. >> i just wonder, we have no assurances that assad will actually carry there on anything. i wouldn't trust him to have the peacetime operation and we have no assurances on what iran would do. i think that he would just let loose on his people and kill as many as he could during this conference time. >> i think you're right on both counts. i think iran is already arming and financing assad. this is all the more reason to have him at the table. are they going to continue to lie or being granted a place at the table. particularly when there are other tables with the u.s. and moscow about their nuclear situation and the like. that maybe they understand the cross issue bargaining that a regional power is going to have to engage in here.

a guaranteed, sponsored transition which ensures there won't be a slaughter, whiches the only way to guarantee there's not going to be vengeance violence at this stage. i think when we confront them directly with that rather than these jabs back and forth over the news wires, that's where the real stuff in diplomacy really takes root. agree with you about mr. assad. this is an international war criminal. we're seeing more and more defections out of the syrian warmed forces. very difficult to get confirmation about whether people were poisoned two weeks ago. we're going to need some time for this to unfold and see what kind of action the syrians closest to the top will take. >> last question, professor. you just used the perfect word to describe globally what's going on.

a butcher. which is unfortunately, the history of the world has had too many butchers and now we get to see too much of it or maybe it's good we get to see so much of it. because it forces you to have to deal with it. but what is the end game though? in other words, as professor of these studies, statistically, culturely, what tends to be the best path to stop a butcher? >> it's either going to be a regional intervention nar force, diplomatic, economic, sometimes military. it's going to be a guarantee of safe passage of the butcher in their family to some little resort on the caspian sea or an assassination. >> thank you so much. nice to see you guys as well. straight ahead, a little play time on a thursday afternoon. see what happens when a woman challenges a city to a big game

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want, what you saw, what you felt, you write it like it happened. you write the truth. >> setting out on a journey bigger than yourself or a quest to define yourself. define the truth for you, whatever that may be. something i might be able to relate to these ways. not sure i'm going to go walk around in the woods, there's a bit to be done around here, but it was the same 550 mile ancient pilgrimage route. he writes about it is his new book, a sense of direction, pilgrimage -- grapples with a conflict we can all relate to. between our desires to experience a certain quest or a certain opportunity to hear or listen and our sense of

obligation to the day-to-day whatever our lives may be and joining us to break it down is gideon. most people are not going to posture to take the amount of time, financial resources or feel they do or don't feel they have the time they do, taking care of their family, their job to do these things. fair? >> certainly fair. although actually so one of the things that we found especially in this mid evil pilgrimage is that many of the people doing it were doing it in moment of some perceived transition, crisis in their lives. >> between jobs, marriage. >> exactly. times that people had an opportunity to take a month after, it's incredibly inexpensive. you can stay at these pilgrim hostiles along the ways. i think he spent less than $500 for the month, so it's really about the time and finding a way

to free yourself from the the obligations. >> and at it root, what do you believe the most valuable thing that lives in a, out there in the world that is -- a detachment from whatever you may know in your day-to-day? >> the most -- the sense that what you're doing every day is what you're choosing to do. i was feeling sort of rootless living in berlin, trying to experience this life of bohemian creative, ferment and often just felt loose ends and once we were on this -- you know, you're walking 15 or 20 miles every day, it's 100 degrees outside. you have terrible blisters. but at a certain point, you have to accept you can't complain because this is something you're choosing to do. >> how much of that do you think is a function of -- when you force yourself into this other

environment, it gets you out of your own head. you had to walk today. >> this is what i like about it. the book's title came from the idea, hey, you want to go walk across pain that summer on this pill xwrim grimmage -- just the idea of waking you have every morning with a strong arbitrary sense of direction. >> why? you're not the only one. >> because the only decisions that you're making are when to start in the morning and when to stop in the evening, so it's freedom from the kind of exhausting choice that can so often characterize our day. >> and if anything, our society is paralyzed by choice in every layer. >> chaktly. >> are you able to bring back to 21st century society a sense of a better sense of discipline so that you're less overwhelmed by all the choices? >> that's really the big

choices. so many of these memoirs and with the arrival in santiago, which is exhilarating, but almost nobody brings it back, well, what is it like to return to every day life. i went back to my life and i really felt something lacking and i so missed that feeling of structure and purpose that had characterized this journey with some ul ulterior motives. i went on a similar thing in japan. i was alone, it was raining all the time. so then i really had to reckon with, well, is it a quest or innovation? >> it's both. that's one of the ambiguities. it begins with a sense of quest, then i thought, what am i actually moving away from here? >> it seemed in principle, you're giving yourself the opportunity to move closer to

yourself. >> idealy. >> seemed that it's an invasion or intimacy. >> sure. . >> very nicely put. >> what do we not know those who have not detached, that those who have detached do? >> probably that you have more choices in your life than you think you do. >> so elaborate on that. there's a sense that we are, we have increasingly less choice because of economic distress, because of a variety of debt. these sorts of things. how do you counterthat? >> i'm struggling to pay my rent, living in san francisco. part o of the reason i moved to berlin, i've heard how cheap it was. i wanted to go somewhere to have the freedom to not worry. i was working when i was first there, but it was as close to an

experience in total freedom as possible and i found that living life in a vacuum doesn't fill itself with purpose. once i freed myself from these constraints, i would be doing everything i wanted to do with my days and i did not find that was the case. >> so you're suggesting that after my last show next friday, i won't magically know what's going to happen next? >> maybe you should go walk and commune. >> you'll have to brief me. the summer of mission analysis. so i don't have -- when the election gets going, we'll engage, get involved here, but this is the summer to do it. >> the perfect time for you. all you do is wake up. you have eight hours to think. you can walk with other people if you want. if you don't, just wave them off. you meet people from all over the world and carry back with you some new sense. >> no question that something

like that is in my cards this summer. whether it's that or not or fishing in canada, but it's something. a real pleasure. congrats on this book. >> thanks for having me. the book is a sense of direction. coming up on "hardball" here, chris asking whether president obama's speech on the economy will unleash a camera bok for him. first, the liars and cheaters among us. our final week in cheat after this this. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much, i appreciate it, i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money ? if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally. ally bank.

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our final week in cheat with our friend. the art of denial. >> there's a new study out that says that well paid, highly paid an elaborately spending ceos don't actually commit more fraud, but people in their company do. it gives them plausible deniability. jon corzine, $2 billion, i don't know what happened. it allows them to benefit from the cheating without being responsible. >> you're saying if the guy at the top is shrugs his shoulders, that the culture of theft is everywhere. >> that's the thing. they establish the culture from the top down so if you work at a paper clip company and are buying your mistress a ferrari, they're going to cheat to keep up. enron, all the traders wanted to make more money and kick out grandmas from their home.

>> or lehman brothers or bear stearns or goldman or all of them. >> culture. thaf used that term because it comes from the top down. it's about that financial success. >> next up, test ta takers are a need for speed. >> this is about kids in wealthy privileged school districts snorting adderall to take the s.a.t. exam. >> so it's a benefit. >> helps them focus and to me, this story brings so many great things about cheating. the pharmaceutical industry. if you can use aspirin to prevent pregnancy, you can use adderall for an s.a.t. there's the culture. these kids think they have to succeed. >> or they think success is defined by their score. >> that they realized it's really hard to progress and they feel pressure to cheat, which they do, it's trickled down cheating and it starts with their sports heroes.

and it's beautiful, to me, the cheater. >> i was feeling a little sense of despair there for a second. these are the sorts of things that you celebrate. >> i do and last thing, let me finish this one point on the kids. it's about the stratification of society, too. this is the rich getting richer, the smart getting smarter while the poor kids, their school districts can't afford pencils. with a voufer, you can buy adderall. >> i'd enjoy that. no point if you can't get your material out. what's the point of coming to midtown? >> exactly. >> all right. >> finally, a reason for cheaters to rejoice. countertrend. >> this is why i'm sad. but i'm rejoicing because you are leaving television. you have ranted against the corruption system and overleverage and money in politics and finally, i was

where people were listening to what you were saying. i am disappointed because we connected. i thought you were just exploiting this medium. you could have been snooki. >> i don't want to break your heart on this and all the other cheaters out there, i don't want to break their heart either. but this is more like a skunk works move. i'm swrjust opening a secret laboratory from which we can return. >> i'm excited. i think you got some clever -- i want to give you something for the future. this is a -- >> skunk works. >> it's a genuine faux fake gold cheaters necklace. you can wear it. change your mind. sell it for upwards of about 50 or strangle a banker. >> i would never. we don't fight anymore. there's no point. >> all right. >> enjoy ourselves. strangling banker, you