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one, you guys have a best music. thank you for zeppelin, the rush. fuzz is actually a pretty normal guy. learned about the greek elections. we learned that you're not a bad guy and you're pretty cool. >> i'm all right. z zpl. >> i learned the name is paul krugman. >> around the corner. >> i learned that it is father's day, happy father's day. happy father's day, dad. you're going to be in parade magazine this weekend and i talk about how much i love you. if it's way too early, what time is it? it's time for "morning joe." happy father's day, everyone. mitt romney and president obama debate the economy on opposite sends of that battleground state. the president delivered an almost hour long state of the campaign address. frankly, it's a speech he never wanted to have to give. we'll break down the fundamentally different views
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that define this race. spotlight texas. a bitter senate primary race encapsulates perhaps all you need to know about where the republican party is today. even the lone star's longest serving conservative governor rick perry got boo ed by conservatives. we'll talk to that candidate ahead. and worse than lehman brothers. europeans and americans wras brace for a sunday vote in greece that could decide whether that country stays in the euro zone. it's a critical decision with global implications. good morning from washington. it's friday, june 15th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." right to my first read of the morning. today, mitt romney is back in the new hampshire town where he launched his presidential bid a year ago. a kick off of a five-day bus tour through six swing states. it's his first traditional campaign swing since he became
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the def facto nominee. spending a lot of time having to respond to a nearly 54 minute defense of his time in office that president obama gave yesterday in cleveland in a speech that was just ten minutes shorter than his last state of the union address. the president laid out his case for a second term. >> of course the economy isn't where it needs to be b. of course we have a lot more work to do. everybody knows that. the detate bait in this election is about how we grow faster and how we create more jobs. >> let's bebe honest. this is a speech the campaign wishes it didn't have to give. essentially saying yes, but here is why i'm better than the other guys. a choice between his vision for long-term growth and the choice his opponent is offering.
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>> if you want to give the policies of the last decade another try, then you should vote for mr. romney. this is their economic plan. it has been placed before congress, governor romney has given speeches about it and it's on his website. >> one thing the obama campaign does like about how romney's been running his campaign, they believe his message presents a stark contrast to the president's vision and that the clearer the contrast, the more likely it is that obama can win over just over swing votes. president made repeated pitches in cleveland to the undecided independent voter group and even some republicans saying only they can cure the divided politics here in washington. >> what's holding us back is a stalemate in washington between two fundamentally different views of which direction america should take. >> still, this was a defensive speech. there was a time in february and march the president's campaign team thought they'd be able to give a more optimistic things
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are turning around type of speech that would have laid the groundwork for the general election, but that's not the reality. at moment, the president seemed to be recite iing a litany borrd from the american cross roads ads running against him. >> the other side will spend over a billion dollars on ads that tell you the economy is bad, that it's all my fault, that i can't fix it because i think government is always the answer or because i didn't make a lot of money in the private sector and don't understand it or because i'm in over my head or because i think everything and everybody's doing just fine. that's what the scary voice in the ads will say. >> and while the president wants to make it a choice, mitt romney of course continues to be mr. referendum, intent to run only on the president's record. he counted the president's speech just minutes before, just
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250 miles away in the same state in cincinnati. >> don't forget, he's been president for three and a half years. and talk is cheap. actions speaks very loud and if you want to see is result of his economic policies, look around ohio, look around the country. >> the romney campaign continues to display an impressive discipline in something that's really frustrated the white house right now, but today, that discipline gets tested when romney kicks off his five-day bus tour at a form in new hampshire, also taking him to iowa and michigan. romney will hit at least 14 small cities and towns. this will be the most expo shoour he's had since becoming the nominee and he's going precisely to the places where he hasn't keked yet with voters. one big question, will voters test him to give more details on promises like this one he made yesterday? >> policies that encourage the
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private sector will cause a resurgence, a we rebirth of america's economy in a way that's going to surprise people all over the world. i'm convinced of it. >> it's one thing the obama campaign is hoping the president's speech does, which is having the president lay out romney's agenda, forcing romney to either agree with what the president described or give more details on his own. they're trying to smoke romney out here a little bit. now, romney's bus tour is also an audition of sorts for vice presidential hopefuls. kelly ayotte, she spoke with him today. rob portman joins romney sunday. paul ryan will be on the trail with romney on monday, so as you can see, we'll see who's got the most chemistry with the nominee at this point. you're going to see a lot of the romney family by the way, also, on this trip. finally, we paid a lot of attention to ohio in the last 24
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hours, but is there a more important domestic political event that will take place than overseas sunday on greece where voters will decide on whether or not the country stays inside the european union? it could have a profound effect on europe's economy, which in turn, has big impb kagss for our economy and our election here. tim geithner sized up the stakes this week with and ra mitchell, saying he's confidence the euro zone will hold together, but arguing europe does need to do more. >> we can't make these choices for them. it's 17 countries. incredibly difficult politician. the economics and financial is very tough. and so they're going to have to figure out what works for them. and what we are doing is what i think we can do. >> that's a message the president is likely to bring diplomatically to the g20 in mexico next week. the other major topic he'll deal
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with, the violence in syria and the tension is building between the united states and russia. president obama basically begins his day in mexico on monday morning, with what's expected to be a tense meeting with putin. it's the first time the two have met since putin regained that office. that's what monday's going to be about. tuesday, lots of focus about the eu and euro and of course, the reaction to whatever happens sunday, so about 20 minutes from the market rundown. opening of course, becky quick is here. becky, we know what sunday could or could not bring. what's everybody doing today? is it sort of a stand pat or is there suddenly some optimism that the greeks are going to try to send a message, we don't want to leave europe? >> heading into a weekend like this, you would think markets would be hesitant at the least if not panicked at what the
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outcome could be, but yesterday, the dow was up 155 points and this morning, looks like the dow is going to open up by another 30 r or 40 points at this point. it's not just the thought that okay, maybe the greeks will vote to stay in this. it's the thought that if they don't, the greeks are going to step in and save the markets any way. there was a story on reuters that moved yesterday in the final hour of trading and it turned everything around. the story laid out that the central banks had been communicated with each other, that the central bankers have a plan of action if the markets go into a downfall. and that is really what traders are pinning their hopes on this time around. now, central bankers have been talked to steve liesman saying they're not coordinating necessarily, but this is what central bankers do. they sit around and have plans for any sort of chaos. we've seen it happen before and that g20 meeting really has people thinking there is going to be some kind of coordinated
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approach between nations if nothing else. it's been kind of surprising just watching over the last 24 hours or so as things play out. right now, people are still optimistic and that's playing out in the markets. >> people are addicted to trading rather than just waiting. be thank you much. up next, it's the race that i think says a lot about the current climate in the senate, perhaps in the republican p primary, the republican senate candidate who's in real trouble simply because he's been labeled a moderate. he is facing a run off against an insurgent favorite there. he joins me next. plus, a big development in the gabbie giffords campaign. her former district sends republicans scrambling, but first, look ahead at the president's schedule. we will celebrate gay pride month at the white house month and then it's off to chicago. little personal time this weekend. perhaps headed to a friend's
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on july 31st, republicans will have to choose between an lishment candidate, if you will. david durs at a tea party backed candidate, ted cruz in the senate primary. temperatures are running high. the contest has underscored what's turned into a bitter divide in the republican party, but it's a divide that's hard to figure out. texas lieutenant governor david
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duers joins me now. i'm trying to figure out where the divide is between you two. let me ask a simple question up top. define what being conservative means to you. >> well, i didn't agree with your premise to begin with, i'm the most conservative lieutenant governor in the history of the state of texas, chuck. you have to be conservative when you've cut taxes 51 times in the state of texas, cut spending by billions of dollars each year, when you balance five straight budgets without raising taxes. when you have helped create the strongest economy in the entire country in texas in the number one job leader. that's conservative. following conservative principles. i mean, our texas success story is based on the fundamentals that i've implemented and governor perry has implemented, keeping our spending as low as possible.
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continuely cutting taxes. balancing our budget. have the widest regulatory hand possible and telling people that we want them to come to texas and it's worked, chuck. we've created more new jobs in texas over the last nine years than the rest of the country combined. >> i want to play a piece of an ad and i've played it a lot on this show. it's one of those head scratchers in that it's called a negative ad. >> says dewhurst has severed as a moderate republican. >> the "houston chronicle" says he is generally considered a moderate. >> a moderate at heart. >> do you take being labeled a moderate as an attack? >> well, yes, in this case, because what they're trying to do is say we need conservatives
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who will go to washington and cult federal spending and cut our taxes and balance the federal budget. so my point ted cruz has spent millions, 4 or 5 or $6 million in negative attacks against me. the club for growth and the other washington insider special interest has spent i don't know, 4, 5, $6 million in untrue negative ads. not one thing is true. >> well, i guess my question, did you find when -- >> i mean -- >> when you're called a moderate in the paper, is that something that offends you? >> yes. it does. it offends me because i know it's a political attack. i know that particularly coming out of the washington establishment -- see, this race is very clear. it's washington insiders versus texas. chuck, i'm a lifelong conservative business man. i took my business skills, i came in the state of government and helped create the strongest
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economy in the entire country and when you cut taxes 51 times and oppose the state income tax and you balance five straight budgets without raising taxes and you pass voter i.d. and medical malpractice tort reform and its best tort reform and sanctuary cities and voter i.d., you are a conservative. >> it does seem, i'm trying to figure out, what do you believe the beef is then? what do you believe club for growth's beef is with you in particular? is it simply that they just like ted cruz better or is there something specific with you that you think they're upset about one piece of legislation you couldn't get through the texas legislature? i know what comes up a lot has to do with the bill that would have increased penalties on so-called sanctuary cities when it comes to immigration. is that the beef here? what do you think it is? >> chuck, i passed sanctuary
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cities out of the texas senate. i passed it. i passed every important piece of conservative legislation that we have brought up over the last eight years. i passed more pro-life legislation than ever in the history of the state of texas. i think it's just strictly a, my opponent met the club for growth six to nine months before i even got into the race. they've misquoted. different statements in the newspaper. i know i'm the most conservative lieutenant governor in the history of the state. i know that my record is exactly what mr. cruz is talking about wanting to do. i've done all the things that my opponents talking about. that's why i want to go to washington and repeal obamacare and reduce work with other conservatives and dramatically reduce our federal spending. cut our federal tax rates. balance our budget. take the texas success model to washington and create millions
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of new jobs. >> as you know, the u.s. senate, if you get there, you're going to have to be tackling the big giant issues of tax reform, having to do some things that i guess let me ask you, can a conservative support tax reform ta lowers rates, raised revenue that came into the government? somebody's taxes might go up. would you be able to support something like that that lowered revenues but increased taxes for some people because maybe some deductions went away? >> chuck, we need to focus on cutting spending and growing our economy. i'm not for increasing taxes. we need to focus on tightening the belt. i've done that repeatedly here in texas. i've cut billions of dollars each year. last year, i cut $14 billion. we need to focus on tightening the belt and growing our economy. the first quarter growth for the united states was 1.9%. we need to grow our economy like
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we're doing here in texas and that's to create stability so the $2 trillion on the sidelines gets invested. >> you wouldn't consider any, any plan that might increase somebody's taxes even if it's at a deduction? >> you're asking hypothetical. i'm against raising taxes. i want to focus on reducing spending. i think washington is spending money we don't have on programs we don't need. that's what i want to focus on and growing our economy. if we grow our economy, that's the major key here. >> lieutenant governor, thank you for coming on here. appreciate it. stay safe on the campaign trial. up next, nine months after the repeal of don't ask don't tell. a first of its kind event at the pentagon. plus, playing chicken on the hill. who's blinking first? it's darrell issa in one corner,
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few other stories i'm watching this morning, it's an historic moment at the pentagon. less than a year after don't ask don't tell, defense secretary moments ago posted a video message thanking lgbt service members and civilians for their service to the country. the first time the pentagon has ever celebrated. >> i want to personally thank
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all of our gay and lesbian service members. lgbt civilians and their families for their dedicated service to our country. before the repeal of don't ask don't tell, you faithfully served your country with professional israel m and courage. >> the president and first lady got a firsthand look at one world trade center. the building that will replace the twin towers. on thursday, president obama toured the 22nd floor and he signed a beam that will now be part of the building when finished in early 2014. well, as we thought was going to be the case. jesse kelly has decided not to run in the fall general collection in what would have been a rematch with ron barber. barber beat kelly by six points. as you know, i asked him that question. he said he was not going anywhere, but the district lines with changing for november.
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getting a let l more democratic friendly. and there may be a deal between eric holder and the chairman of the house oversight committee. sent a two page letter to congressman issa. holder promised to turn over documents related to the fast and furious program and threatened to hold a contempt vote for failure to turn over the documents. there's been pressure and intrigue internally on this one. as you know, there may not be a more important election than the one that's about to happen in greece with fears growing that even more of europe -- just how huge will the impact be here at home? plus, courting conservatives, republicans who aren't so excited about romney, now, it's all about the pick for vice president. we're live at the scene of the latest v.p. auditions. you're watching the daily run down. rapid wrinkle repair.
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you're looking at live pictures of the faith and freedom conference in washington, d.c., the second day of the annual meeting. the summit began yesterday with speeches by two potential romney running mates with very different styles at going after the president on the economy. >> president gave us a glimpse into the failed philosophy he has chosen. last week when he proclaimed that the private sector was doing just fine. he needs to get out more. >> they literally put americans against each other by design for purposes of winning an election. and that's never who we've been. >> well, as you can see, there's the charismatic contrast.
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mark, we're just struck by the contrast between rubio and between -- it was sort of like the boring guy versus the the charismatic guy if you will. >> that's really what you have. that marco rubio the one with a lot of sizzle. the question is, whether he's vetted or not. on the other hand, rob portman's a little boring, but he's the safe pick and as the romney campaign looks at the numbers, maybe boring is the right pick r for them. >> it's interesting watching this. last week, of course the much of conservatives were in chicago, some of the other vp tryouts took place. official and unofficial straw polls at these events lately have gone in marco rubio's favor. what kind of pressure could that
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put on romney because the base seems pretty fire d up about rubio. >> on the other hand, a lot of the conventional wisdom around portman is still the guy and a lot of people in washington are probably in republican circlings within the -- talking about, even a tim pawlenty or someone like that, so i think the base is fired up about rubio. the question is whether romney wants to have someone like that, who's been a senator for just a little bit more than a year. >> all right, who's expected to? i know we've got rand paul, mcmcconnell, newt gingrich, herman cain. who's expected to generate the most excitement? is this a rand paul crowd? >> remember, this is a social conservatives. the religious right. i think we're going to see rand paul make pretty big splash.
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don't forget mitt romney's going to be speaking via video for this conference tomorrow. >> mark murray there all day watching what could be nothing but a vp try outevent. will greece stay in the european union and will there be a massive contagion effect if they pull out? that's the massive question as greece votes for a new government. the president of river choice research, a contributor to the -- and cnbc's fast money. it does seem as if greece decided they had to have a do over. couldn't figure out how to get a government together. there seems to be a lot of optimism that essentially voters will be sending the message sunday. we want to stay part of europe. we don't want to be the odd child out. is that the way markets are viewed in this? >> first of all, we should
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remark on the extraordinary phenomenon on the amount of attention we've been paying to greece over the past two years. country of 11 million people with gdb slightly smaller than a moderate american state and we haven't paid this much attention to greece since high school learning about the war. the evolution of democracy and now, the greek democracy is threatening the very world that we credited as crediting. i'm not sure there's so much optimism. there's the guarded optimism if things go badly on sunday and this party, this radical left par party, we want to stay, but don't want to pay under the bailout terms, that there will be enough central bank action globally to prevent a 2008 meltdown of the financial system. >> all right. this is all about this issue of if greece, then spain. if spain, then italy. and the real, and that's what you keep hearing. after italy, if that doesn't go
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well, i hear there's fears about france. i guess what can be done with italy first that can prevent this from spreading to france? >> so, chuck, you grew up knowing about the domino theory, if one fell, then another and another. this is the financial european equivalent of that. i think the problem is once you start going down that path, you really don't stop, right? if the fear is that this system is all built on faith and the ability of governments and banks to maintain the faith that contracts will be honored and debts will be paid, then once you start thinking this goes, then spain, then italy, then france, then pretty much you're quickly to zero. i think that's the problem of market psychology right now. you can create a lot of negative scenarios of things going really, really bad. you just have to ask yourself even though those are possible, are they really probable. i think on that one, the probability is much less than the possibility.
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it's very hard to argue against a future outcome that we don't know. >> i think we all see in hindsight that how the euro was put together was fatally flawed when they didn't figure out how to connect their financial systems and banking systems. you do look and wonder what is is incentive for any of these countries to stay in the euro? the irony here is we've seen bigger countries with bigger gdps with bigger problems. argentina, for instance. basically be able to devalue currency. start all over. and viola, they've recovered. greece can't do that because they're connected to this basically unorganized single currency, but that's really all they're organized on. >> and you're totally right, but this system should have a moment of duress and some sort of political coordinating. the incentive now is because
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there is really no exit strategy for any of these countries, oops, this 20-year experiment isn't working, the cost of disillusion and the cost of break up are so immense and the really painful cost of going more in the direction of giving up policy. whether or not the political -- as the the financial markets are scared that are going to happen in the coming weeks. nothing will change on monday based on the out come of the greek election, but there will be a real signalling to is is this system going to be resilient and are political leaders going to be able to act with a lackty when they've acted really, really slowly. >> so, we're pinning our hopes on what kind of rationale*traderational.
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>> which is not a good pin. >> it's like how odds are set in football and baseball. a depressing, but also interesting back and forth. >> the weather will be nice. >> fair enough, thanks. our friday panel will be here next to wrap up what's been a wild week. a programming note. sunday on "meet the press," white house senior adviser, david plouffe and then arizona senator, john mccain. first, before we go to break, you need to know it. white house soup of the day. a spanish flavor, not a mexican flavor. gaspacho. you can always follow the show on facebook. we'll be right back. i've worked hard to build my family.
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potato. one little bit on the end. >> who knows? >> there it is. >> daily flashback. that's right. it was this day in 1992 the. we were in the mid of the campaign season and the misspelling that vice president dan quyale would never live down. while moderating a mock spelling bee at a new jersey elementary school, quyale encouraged a student to add the unnecessary e to the end of potato. wow. 1992. i just sort of stunned that it was right in the middle of the campaign. can you imagine what we would have done to that story today? this week's buckeye battle over the economy set the tone for the 14days left in the the election.
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let's bring in our friday panel. jamal simmons, a.b. stoddard and jim garrity. i'm going to start from left to right here. the president, that was not a speech he wanted to give. it's a speech he ended up having to give. how will you measure success on that speech since it wasn't one they were looking forward to. >> no, i think this period, if you look at the polls, the american public is not yet convinced who mitt romney is. i'm guessing what they want to do is spend as much time as possible defining mitt romney. and they get back to the business of selling barack obama when people are paying attention in the fall. they had to play a little defense and talk about a president's economic plan. there was some criticism i think yesterday about how it didn't flow together, kind of all over the place. i think though he has some lines in there that will show up in political ads later about what his plan is, my plan, my plan.
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>> it did feel a little cobbled together, but here's basically the choice part that president obama was trying to put up. take a listen, a.b. >> the economic vision of mr. romney and his allies in congress was tested just a few years ago. we tried this. their policies did not grow the economy. fz they did not grow the middle class. they did not reduce our debt. why would we think they would work better this time? >> so, a.b., it seems as if and sometimes we put it this morning in first read, that both campaigns are hoping to get rid of selective amnesia. obama wants romney to be tied to all things bush policy. romney wants to remind folks, hey, look at all the things obama couldn't get done and it seems that which one of them successfully reminds voters. >> to start with, i don't know
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how many persuadable votes for in that speech yesterday. i don't know how much of an impact it's going to have. in terms of the actual -- the campaign is taking, it might be useful to say it is absolutely the case that this is the choice. we have nothing in common. and try to dodge that. i think that's nice to give some clarity instead of attacking romney's past. really trying to offer, this is what i am promising you because he's never spoken about a second term. same time, he mixed that message with talking about breaking the stalemate and bringing back hope and changing your politics and everyone knows that's just not going to happen. so for that frustrated voter who might have voted for obama four years ago, who really believed in him then to say we can break the stalemate and change politics, i think that's, i think that's a muddled message. he should stick with a two visions. >> i'm going to play a romney
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bite. clearly, romney is still wanting to be referendum. here's what he said. >> talk to people like ken or dave. talk to other employers in this room. talk to people you know that run a retail store or a small manufacturer and say did president obama's policies help put people back to work? or did they make it less likely for you to hire people? i hear day in and day out, they feel this administration sees them as their enemy. >> one thing about what president obama did yesterday that seems to be one of the goals was to almost smoke romney out. make him talk more about what he would do. romney so far not taking the bait. at some point, does he have to? >> i think so. they're winning on the negative case against obama. almost done. that might be enough to win, but if you want to win a mandate, not just get to 207, enough frustration to be elected as not
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obama, he can do that. the question is, do you want to be elected as pro romney. not just excite your base, but vote for this guy -- not being where we want to be four years later, but say no, we really believe in this guy. >> have you met anybody on the romney campaign who believes they are running anything but a not obama campaign? >> it's working for them so far. >> the pure referendum just doesn't work because you can't leave the seat open. you can't decide to just elect obama and have no one there. >> hey, we'll have two elections. >> you've got to choose between obama and whoever the other person is, which is romney. >> i'm going to take a quick break. trivia, we asked who's the only person to witness two presidential assassinations and he almost witnessed three. robert todd lincoln, the son of abraham lincoln. he saw two other presidents get shot. as secretary of war, lincoln was
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breaking news we want to get to you. a significant policy change. the federal government will soon give work permits to illegal immigrants who came to the u.s. as children granting a change long sought by latino groups. the obama administration policy will grant the permits to younger immigrants who came to the u.s. before age 16 and are now under 30 and who have no criminal records. the political spinning on that one in a campaign year begins now. in a new hbo documentary, 41, we
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get an inside look at former president george herbert walker bush in his own words. listen to the former president talk about his one-time presidential rival, third-party candidate ross perot. >> no, can't talk about him. if he cost me the election, i don't like him. other than that i have nothing to say. >> wow. let's bring back our panel. okay. tim is a little younger than us. you weren't covering the '92 race. >> i was a political geek. >> that's a giveaway. you and i were both in this town doing this crazy work we still do. we knew that there was a bit of a rivalry between the perots and bushes but to me that just sort of jumped out at me like, wow. that's where he holds his bitterness. it's not, clearly, at the clintons. >> obviously his friendship with bill clinton and his work with bill clinton in the years following is genuine and we know that. but, you know, third-party
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spoilers are spoilers, but for 930,000 votes that ralph nader won in florida al gore could be president, too. how could you not be bitter? i think it's great that he finally at least got that off his chest. >> people forget. at the time he spent an enormous amount of money, $60 million, at the time, which is a big deal, his own money. the equivalent of probably $250 million of his own money today. >> today it's adelson money. >> but i think about perot actually here and he sort of hechd cr helped increase the negative -- what happened to -- why is it romney and obama didn't end up generating a third party? >> you can make an argument a lot of the tea party folks, a good chunk were perot voters. >> i've heard this. there are folks who are very concerned about the deficit who are not perhaps a totally antigovernment. they still like their benefits but the deficit worries them. they have the sense washington
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is out of control. a disdain for people in washington. sometimes it goes to both parties. sometimes they get a little bit more -- you talk to the tea party folks. they, you know, vociferously dislike democrats but they really dislike republicans. >> that's true. we're seeing this down in texas where i'm sorry. there is no ideological difference. they are not going to vote differently in the united states senate. it's just this idea, once holding office and the others -- you know, there is this -- and pent up and it's this idea of your' not going to tell us who our nominees are going to be. we're going to tell you. i know you want to jump in, jamal. >> we really -- democrats who are involved in the 2000 election, the feeling about nader is way worse than it is about george bush. >> cruz's argument is if i vote the right way i'm not doing enough. he has to be a leader in the party -- >> not making enough of that case. >> that is the philosophy. >> shameless plugs? jamal? >> it's father's day friday and,
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you know, happy father's day to my dad and my brothers who are good dads in their own. >> very nice. >> my dad ends his reign as president of the hilton head republican club in south carolina. he gets one more year to actually be on the board. otherwise he is washing his hands it have. he is happy. a successful year surprisingly for south carolina republicans. go figure. >> i'm guessing that is not the easiest state to be involved with republican politics. >> happy father ace day to my father, step father, to my husband peter and to you as well, chuck. >> thank you. have a great father's day everybody. you know what sunday also is? the watergate anniversary. stay tuned. tonight on "nightly news" -- no. we've got -- we're going to have some great, interesting ways that people are interpreting watergate to this day coming up on "nightly news" tonight and also on the show later this week. up next, chris jansing. bye-bye.
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