i'm chris jansing. president obama and mitt romney returned to the campaign trail this morning. it's a chance for both of them to build on the duel in ohio. nearly simultaneous speeches. >> he's been president for three and a half years. talk is cheap. action speaks very loud. if you want to see the results of his economic policies look around ohio and the country. >> if you want to give the policies of the last decade another try, then you should vote for mr. romney. >> starting next hour in new hampshire mitt romney will begin a five-day, six-day campaign swing dubbed "believe in america, every town counts" bus tour. not to be over shadowed democrats fired up their own bus to follow romney state to state and tweeted this picture a little while ago the tour titled "romney economics -- the middle class under the bus." i'm joined by aaron mcpike with "real politics" and the

editor-in-chief of the national journal. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> you had two of them yesterday. my home state of ohio in front of crowds of supporters. look, make no mistake these messages are not for the partsans there. they are for the walmart moms and the home depot dads, the working class americans. certainly in the case of barack obama, who like him but want to know what is going to get us out of this mess do you think either side answered the question well? >> neither one. ohio is my home state, too, chris. there was nothing remarkable about either one of these speeches. neither mitt romney nor president obama said anything new. president obama continues to ask for more time whereas mitt romney is saying that the president has had enough time. but neither one of them are talking about what they would do. president obama hasn't laid out what he would do in a second term and mitt romney hasn't said much other than what he would do to unravel what the president has done. i would point out, though, in the clip that you just played of mitt romney talking saying that

the president's policies haven't worked, in ohio they have in some respects. a lot of voters think that the auto bailout has been very helpful to the manufacturing sector. >> and the rate is under the national average. >> just about a point, 7.4%, whereas the national rate is 8.2%. ohio is doing much better. in fact, i would add this to it. the federal government has helped a nuclear facility in southern ohio, which just got a big federal investment on wednesday. the day before these two candidates went to speak in ohio. and this federal investment is keeping this nuclear facility alive, could create 4,000 jobs. it's something that the president talked about when he campaigned in southern ohio in 2008 and it finally came through so a lot of what they've been doing, in ohio, has helped with the president. >> funny none of that was in the new rnc ad that came out this morning. you know, it takes about a na nanosecond to turn this stuff around now. it was actually like a three-minute video, three-minute video that they put out. and what they did is they

basically took speeches that the president had before and what he said in the speech yesterday kind of going back and forth, back and forth, ron, i guess their point is there was nothing new, but mitt romney what was new? >> i think the best thing mitt romney has going for him and i agree with everything you guys said but mitt romney is up against a candidate who has a tough argument to make. barack obama has to make an intellectual argument which is as you heard if you want more of the same from the bush administration, vote for mitt romney. that may be a credible argument but it's intellectual and messy things like history and policy have to run through voters' minds. mitt romney is going to be able to basically say are you better off now than three years ago and for most voters the answer is going to be no. so i thought it was interesting how he saw the first framing of those two ways of going about it last -- yesterday. >> it is going to be about framing this message when we're looking at this race being so tight. let me bring in peter alexander.

he is in new hampshire. i understand, peter, you just came out of a meeting, you sat in with the romney campaign. there is a crowd gathering for the bus tour to kick off. what are they telling you about strategy this morning? >> well, they're giving us exactly what we can look forward to. the reporters were created in boston at romney headquarters with the words welcome to romney summer camp. we'll be traveling with mitt romney and many members of his family, his wife ann romney with him today as they go through these six different states. they made it very clear these are six states president obama won in 2008 in an effort to try to say they're the ones on the offensive, that president obama, his team are on the defensive this go around. i'll move out of the way to give you a sense of what we'll see about an hour from now. we're about an hour north of boston and new hampshire, this is stratham farm, one of those battleground states they refer to. several hundred people here. this is the exact same place where mitt romney launched his campaign exactly a year ago. in the course of our strategy

session they said they'll hit these 14 different towns that they say represent the back roads of america or more specifically the back bone of america. this campaign is going to be riding by bus three or four different buses leap frogging throughout the course of the next five days. at the end of each day we'll hop on to a chartered flight with the governor as he heads to the next state. the states include the following. they are here in new hampshire where we begin. we head to pennsylvania, ohio, wisconsin, iowa, and michigan another one of mitt romney's home states as it were, you know, he has homes here in new hampshire and boston. he grew up in michigan of course and has a family home in california as well. we had a chance to speak to some of the strategists about their goal over the course of this. their real goal obviously is to get out and reach some of those people with the republican base in the small towns where they didn't do all that well over the course of the primary season. a lot of these areas are heavily republican but during the primaries in these conservative areas many of the people were

supporting mitt romney's opponents, rick santorum, and newt gingrich. >> peter alexander who is there about an hour away from the kickoff of that. thank you so much. erin, given where he is going and many of these republican strongholds replaces what we just heard from peter that he might not have done so well in the primaries, what is the message about doing this now and where he is going? >> well, i think it's exactly what peter said, just that these are not places that mitt romney has done very well, but i would also point out this. mitt romney has not been campaigning very heavily since rick santorum got out of the presidential race in early april. and this is a lot of exposure for mitt romney. what most of this tour is about is about getting buzz because you saw there that kelly ayotte the senator from new hampshire, a potential vice presidential contender if not up that high on the list, also rob portman campaigning with him in ohio on sunday and then paul ryan on monday in wisconsin. a lot of this is going to be about photo opportunities and buzz. for the romney campaign, what they've got going for them is

speculation about the vp stakes. people are excited about that. they want to hear about it. there's not a ton in the messaging other than the president's policies haven't worked and mitt romney says he is the answer but a lot of this is about buzz and photo opportunities. >> you know, when we talk about, you know, the buzz, is it just about that, ron, or also a little bit about the photo op? is a little bit about the romney campaign acknowledging that in spite of everything else, in spite of people's concerns about the economy, they still really like this president. they're not so sure, still, about mitt romney. let's get him out there. let's get him meeting the people. let's try to show him as the great guy that ann romney says he is. >> yeah. you're right. short term is buzz and optics and personalities. long term for both these guys this next week is really about trust because in your guys home state in new hampshire and iowa and michigan and wisconsin, and all of these states that romney is going to be at, these voters have heard this stuff before.

they've heard empty rhetoric, empty promises. they don't trust politicians. they don't trust washington. they don't trust either one of these men, really, to turn this economy around. they're looking for someone with getting back to what you were saying earlier, real policies that will turn this country around. something more than just sound bites and photo ops can either man deliver in the next couple weeks on that? that is really the question. >> i'm kind of stealing this, erin, from "morning joe" they were talking about this -- essentially are people trying to answer the question, are you better off now than you were four years ago, that famous question, that turned another presidential election. or is it who is going to help me be in a better place two years from now? >> the romney campaign wants it to be about that first question. are you better off now than you were four years ago? but the obama campaign wants that other question. and the president continues to say that if you stick with him, things will ultimately be better. one of the things outside of both of their control is that

the global economy is moving at a slower pace and there's really nothing that either one of them might be able to do about it for the next three or four years or so. the world bank just put out a warning just this week saying that it's -- global growth is going to be slower especially in high income countries like the united states. the president has been pushing out a lot of the blame on to congress, on to europe, some other issues that are really affecting the united states economy, but, you know, it's a matter of who do you believe more? and the obama campaign still believes that the end of the day voters like him and they trust him and they're willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. that's what they hope. >> thanks. i want to bring in los angeles mayor antonio villaraigosa who is president of the u.s. conference of mayors and an obama 2012 national cochair. always great to have you on the program, mayor. good morning. >> great to be on the program with you. >> let me ask you about this whole messaging question. because we've got, you know, mitt romney out on the bus and we have the dnc answering with their own bus campaign. but, you know, when the

president talks about congress, when he talks about george w. bush, and we should say there is a poll out that shows still there's a lot of americans who blame the former president for the state of the economy but does he have to be more forward looking to the point of the james carville memo? does he need to look ahead more than he's been? is it enough to say, congress isn't cooperating and i inherited a really bad deal? >> actually there are a lot of economists that put a lot of the blame for where we are economically on the bush policies, which are identical to the romney policies. it's cut, cut, cut. it's not making the investments that we need, going into the future. i think this campaign and this election will be about the future not just about where we are today but where we want to be. when you look at america, what made us strong? america's middle class has always been the motor force of our development. that means we've got to invest in education.

that means we've got to invest in workforce development so we can compete around the world. if you look at the romney plan, he wants to cut and eviscerate virtually every program, education, first responders, virtually every program, investment in infrastructure that you can think of, and a $5 trillion tax cut to boot that we campaigned for. >> let me ask you, obviously mitt romney is going out into an area with this bus tour to get buzz with blue collar americans. he's going into rural areas. he's going into small towns all across these battleground states. i don't think there is anybody who would argue that this is not an election that is going to be decided by that middle class, by that middle class who is a little bit nervous about where this country has been and where it's going. if you're right, if your argument is right, why is this race so close? >> well, the economy. look, of course it's going to be

close. >> why hasn't the president convinced those middle class americans that he is the better one to lead forward? >> well, that is going to be the job of this election. the fact of the matter is i thought they said it very well. this bus tour is all about fluff t's all about buzz. it's all about empty rhetoric. it's not about substance. they just talked about cut, cut, cut. taxes, cut, cut, cut programs. no investments going into the future. when you look at president obama, he's made it absolutely clear. if we're going to be competitive we've got to invest in our transportation system, our ports, our airports. we've got to pass the surface transportation bill that will put 2 million people to work over the next couple of years. >> mayor villaraigosa i just got handed something i'd like to ask you about because it is right in your wheel house, something that you know very well. the obama administration has just announced that it will stop deporting and begin granting work permits to younger, illegal immigrants who come to the u.s.

as children and who have since led law-abiding lives. the election year initiative addresses a top priority of the influential latino electorate. let me get your reaction to this. did you know it was coming? >> i did. i did. i didn't think it was coming for a couple of hours but i did know it was coming, and i support it. i think a vast majority of americans believe that these young people who live here who have been here most of their lives, who know no other country, who oftentimes can't speak any other language other than english, ought to have a pathway to citizenship. this doesn't provide that but at least it protects their status and i think it's a good thing. >> mayor antonio villaraigosa, i know you've got a busy schedule there at the conference of mayors. it's kind of you to take the time to talk with us. thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. >> erin and ron, let me ask you about this initiative we just got handed and the decision by the president who this afternoon

a little after 1:00 p.m. eastern time is going to talk about this. it is particularly interesting to me, ron, because yesterday we were discussing the fact that this group of evangelical ministers has come together basically splitting with the republican party and saying you need to take another look at your immigration policy. we've talked so much about how this election is about the economy but when you're talking about in some of these key states a one-point, two-point race in areas that have large latino populations, how might something like this impact it? >> in a huge way. this is very smart politics for the white house, even in the states we're talking about that traditionally didn't have a lot of hispanics. that has changed in the last ten or 15 years. at "national journal" we spend a lot of time talking about the new america, and it is just a fact that the republican party unless they get a better position on the immigration issues and reaching out toward hispanics they are stampeding toward irrelevancy. they have to figure a way to reach out more to minorities

especially the hispanic community or the numbers just won't add up. it is going to be hard for romney to beat obama this cycle unless he does better with hispanics and impossible for republicans to win the white house four years, eight years, 12 years down the road unless they get right on this issue and that's what the white house is trying to use as a wedge with this policy. >> we should also point out it certainly helps them to steal a headline from the romney bus tour which is about to kick off any minute now. >> sure. >> ron and erin, thank you very much for being with us. this just in. the obama administration will be announcing a plan to give work permits to stop deporting younger illegal immigrants. we'll hear from the president at 1:15 this afternoon and we'll have that for you live right here on msnbc. we'll be right back. yoo-hoo. hello. it's water from the drinking fountain at the mall. [ male announcer ] great tasting tap water can come from any faucet anywhere. the brita bottle with the filter inside.

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strategist is revealing new details about the epic money battle between president obama and mitt romney and the power of the super pacs. david axelrod comparing the influence of republican super pacs to the vast majority of obama donors. 98% of their contributions are under $250. >> people writing $10 million checks in one fell swoop to these super pacs and in many cases they're undisclosed. that is a great concern. it would take 181,000 of our average contributions to match one of those anonymous donations. that's a concern not just for us but it's a concern for our democracy. >> joining me now is vice chairman of reputation.com and founder of 15-minute public relations howard bragman. so, howard, as you know, the vast majority of this money goes for ads. we had a statistic that was absolutely astonishing. television political ads in the 50 days after rick santorum stepped aside, 69,793 television

spots according to media. if you live in a state like ohio where my family is you turn on the tv and that is all you see. how do you break through? >> you know, the problem is you're probably not going to break through. they have very clever people and they're going to try and come up with these epic advertising campaigns but the truth is there's a lot of difference in advertising now. number one, it's only happening in a few states as you said. people in ohio and florida are going to get inundated. number two, a lot of these ads are created specifically for the internet, specifically to go viral, specifically to go to a specific interest group whether it be latino, gay and lesbian. so they're very different. a lot of them are going on social media. you'll continue to see this. each party is going to have about a billion dollars to spend. the question is where do you spend that money and advertising

is going to do it. it's not just going to be tv. they're going to think of every nontraditional way they can to get their message out. >> but the money, you know, the big money obviously goes to tv commercials where they're spending a huge chunk of this, maybe 10 or 12 states. and you think of the ads that, you know, we still talk about years later, you know, i am not a witch or you talk about, you know, the daisy ad that ran way back in 1964. you talk about the willie horton ad. these are not ads that necessarily, you know, turned into something positive for the candidate, so what's the alternative if you do want to get through the noise? does it have to be a terribly negative ad? >> you're going to see the most negative campaign i think you and i have seen in our life times, chris. they're both a little shaky on some of their foundations so they'll take the other guy down and increase doubts. i think you'll see a shockingly

negative campaign but i hope we'll see some interesting positive advertising, too. i think really around convention time you're going to start to see some of the biographical ads again to tell the story and i think president obama really has to do something important. he has to tout his accomplishments. most of the things he has accomplished, like health care and the economy are things that he's criticized for. he has to stand up and take ownership of these and say, this is why these were good accomplishments. this is why i need to be re-elected. i'd like to see something a little more positive and i think most of the people in america would and i think we're going to see that in the next couple months. >> whether positive or negative we know there's going to be a lot. we've already seen there is a lot. it is going to be more. what is your gut telling you? you've been doing this a long time. could people just throw their hands um, say they're sick of it, and not show up at the polls? >> i think people are going to vote but i think they'll turn their tvs off and tivo more and forward through the ads which, you know, your bosses here won't

particularly like. i think you just -- i was in florida during the primary and you just glaze over there are so many ads after a while. they cease to have meaning. and i think they're going to have to think of many other ways to augment their advertising strategy. >> howard bragman, great to see you. people are not used to the capital in the background. i know you're going to the white house for the big lbgt event. so enjoy and thanks for coming on. >> i'll say hello to the president for you. i'll say he wants ohio. don't worry. >> thank you, howard. right now the annual fake in freedom conference is under way in washington with mitch mcconnell speaking this hour. conservatives are gathering to arm themselves with talking points on national and local issues. big theme this year no surprise. economic and social conservativism. but first nancy pelosi, mc hammer and john bon jovi all converge in politics now coming up next. ♪ the one and only, cheerios

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story we told you about in the last half hour. the obama administration in a major change in policy is going to stop deporting younger, illegal immigrants who came to the u.s. as children. we're expecting to hear more from the president about this in just a couple hours. he is scheduled to speak at 1:15 eastern time. but for now let's go to nbc's mike viqueira from the white house. what can you tell butts this, mike? >> just a fascinating power play by the white house and department of homeland security here. heavy on policy but of course political overtones affecting a key voting bloc, in a lot of swing states around the country just five months before the election, very interesting. you remember the dream act backed by the administration, stalled in congress. what the white house is essentially doing is unilaterally through executive order enacting portions of the dream act. they'll say they're not bypassing congress but the interesting thing is because this is such a key constituency they're going to be -- republicans are going to be stuck arguing on process

essentially. here is what the dream act would do, or i'm sorry, here is what the president is going to be announcing today. if you came to this country illegally under the age of 16, you are now still under the age of 30. if you have lived in this country for at least five years, if you are currently in school or have achieved at least a high school degree or been honorably discharged from the military and if you have no criminal record as described as a felony or significant misdemeanor, then you can gain citizenship to this country. it would affect an estimated 800,000 individuals who are here illegally at this time and the idea obviously, chris, is that if you came here, if you were brought here by your parents as a child through no willful act or conscious act of your own, you are more or less brought along for the ride. you've been educated here in this country, then you have a right to apply for american citizenship. the president is going to appear at 1:15 in the rose garden. he has a major speech to hispanic groups next week in florida.

some swing states where this could make a big difference. colorado, nevada, florida -- nevada, florida, of course, and congressional democrats aren't going to mind this either. it will help in some close races down in texas. >> nbc's mike viqueira, thank you so much for that. >> sure. >> let me bring in a couple analysts on this. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> isn't this interesting. so we're looking at maybe 800,000 latinos who could be affected by this. you don't have to be a math whiz to do the math on this. i think in florida alone they think there is about a 1.2, 1.3 million latino voters. kiki let me get your reaction to the president's announcement coming up at 1:15. >> well, the president has clearly said, where there are obstacles and things have just ground to a halt on issues that matter he'll do what he can. he can't do everything because there are limits to the power of

any one branch of our government. in this case there is something he can do and he is taking action. i think that's a demonstration of leadership and a point of view and i think it's about what kind of engagement and we're going to have to keep the country moving forward and not to have it just completely stall out in a political season. >> nobody thought, susan, that mitt romney was going to win the latino vote. they did think, however, that he could possibly make some gains in some key places and some ins. we know there are tremendous numbers of latinos who haven't registered so the obama camp wants to get them excited. as a political move is the romney camp right now a little bit nervous? >> i think like you said they were always a little nervous about the latino vote and who would come out to vote and if nothing else maybe latinos who came out for obama last time maybe that vote will be less so it will give romney a better chance of winning over all especially in some of the swing states like colorado. but i think now this was nothing, you know, but a pure political move. it will make certain groups very happy that he did it. he said he was going to do

something. it's a last-minute proposition, but at the end the day is also going to be seen as highly political. right now the president's popularity when it comes to how he's handling things is not so good. and it was a big risk. >> is that going to make a difference though? i guess my question is it's not as though this is something so completely out of left field for the obama administration. >> yes. >> it's not like it's a big flip flop or anything like that is it, kiki? >> no. here's the deal. no matter what the president does, if he decides to water the lawn on tuesdays and wednesdays it's going to be seen as political right now because it's going to appeal to somebody and not appeal to someone else. but you can't stop being president and you can't stop engaging in policy and moving the country forward. look, we all know the fact of the matter is we're in graduation season and we've all seen stories about young men and women who are graduating from high school, have lived law-abiding lives here, who are american culturally and engaged in the american life and through

no fault of their own may have an illegal status and the reality is we as a country have to address that. we can't just say there is an election coming up. someone might think that decision is political on the part of the president. he has to lead whether it's campaign season or not. >> i wonder, susan, could it push the republican party a little bit? we did a lot of talking yesterday about this group of evangelical leaders who are not on the same page as regimes. th -- as republicans. they have gotten together and said, republicans, you need to look at this immigration issue again. is this something that might push the romney campaign, might push republicans if not in a vastly different direction but to look at a different kind of approach to the immigration issue and to the latino vote? >> absolutely. because they could season it rig -- seize on it right now and go to hard right which romney did during the primary. it would be consistent with that. however, marco rubio has been talking about coming up with his

version of the dream act which i am willing to bet is very similar to what president obama just announced today. that may have taken some wind out of the sail on that because romney would have used that to kind of tack that to the center. >> thanks to both of you for rolling with this breaking news. we appreciate it. again, we'll have this for you at 1:15 eastern time. this came out of nowhere this morning. and the thing that makes both political campaigns nervous is something out there that they can't predict but becomes big enough to break through the number one issue, which is of course the economy, to become that issue that could help decide this election that right now, of course, is basically a dead heat nationally. there are a lot of international possibilities today of things that could break through. you've got the financial crisis that is engulfing europe, the threat of greece leaving the eurozone, the promise of the arab spring is at risk in egypt with parliament dissolved there. new elections. there's deadly violence that's been tearing apart syria. no end in sight. iran defiantly continuing its

nuclear program. then of course you have next week's g20 summit. president obama is going to meet face to face with russian president vladimir putin for the first time in three years. so joining me now is victoria newland spokesperson with the state department. it's good to see you. good morning. >> good morning. good to see you. >> your boss was talking about egypt after the judges there ruled to dissolve parliament throwing the transition to democracy into some serious trouble. how serious? >> well, we are concerned, chris. this is a parliament that was democratically elected and while we respect the judiciary in egypt if there have to be new parliamentary elections we want to see them happen swiftly and be fully representative of the will of the egyptian people. these people have been out looking for change, looking for a democratic future and they deserve to have it. >> u.n. monitors have entered the deserted town of hafa in

syria. the amount of casualties is unclear though there have been horrifying reports and the bodies have been moved or buried before observers have a chance to get in there. how would you assess the crisis level right now in syria? what is the likelihood of u.s. intervention? >> chris, the situation in haffa and the pictures are absolutely abhorrent. there was an agreement to put monitors in there to help protect the syrian people, provide space, they went in and slaughtered people in halfa. they were kept outside and only allowed in to witness the carnage. we all have to work together to increase the pressure on the assad regime. we have to do it through sanctions, through working together on a post assad political transition that is credible and that gets people in syria and outside syria off the fence. and we've got to work with this opposition to get it ready for the post assad era. >> but in the meantime obviously

the key question is before the post assad era how many people are going to die there? >> that is obviously the tragedy of this situation. that's the point that we are making with all of our partners outside who have influence on assad and who are still continuing to support him and aid him that it is time to cut those ties because we've got to move on and we've got to help the syrian people have a peaceful, democratic, pluralistic future, which their leadership obviously is not providing them. >> meantime, washington finds itself so much at odds with moscow issues rain blging from syria, roirn, human rights. president putin hasn't shown any sign of backing down. what should we expect from this meeting between president obama and president putin at the g20? >> as you know, chris, all of the g20 leaders are meeting ii los cabos over the weekend, a chance for them together to look at the situation in syria, redouble our efforts regarding

iran but as you say the first face-to-face meeting between president obama and president putin. there are a lot of issues on the table. in the iran context we are working very well together with russia. we're absolutely united in the position that we are taking to this meeting with the iranians, which is also happening on monday and tuesday in moscow, that they have got to come clean on their nuclear program. that they have got to address in particular why they feel it necessary to enrich to 20% so that's a place where we're working very well. we have some deep differences on syria and the president is going to close some of those gaps with president putin because the russians do still have quite a bit of influence on bashar al assad and we want to see them use it. it is an important meeting. >> victoria nuland from the state department, thank you so much. >> thank you, chris. also making news this morning the man hunt for missing buffalo surgeon timothy jordan has now gone nationwide, a story being compared to "the fugitive." jordan is accused of killing his ex-girlfriend at the hospital

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those are fbi numbers. and many more crimes go unreported. the reverend will take that message to 25 cities from coast to coast tomorrow including chicago, which is seeing more than 200 murders through late may. a 50% jump from this time last year. joining me now is the reverend jesse jackson. always good to see you, reverend. good morning. >> good morning. >> i know you'll start -- >> this crisis is not just black on black. it is the killing here in tucson, the columbine. there are zones where the black on black violence is beyond the pale. >> you're going to start your march outside a gun store near chicago that you folks say has sold more than 3500 pistols that were later recovered at crime scen scenes. >> i believe that is the case. three weeks ago we held the nato

conference in chicago. 1700 soldiers have been killed in afghanistan in ten years, 65,000 in 15 cities. the present policy with guns in and more guns in and jobs out which leads to instability. in iraq it's the opposite. guns out, jobs in and stability and development. we need a new policy. there's more comprehensive -- that suggests that all americans deserve a chance, a chance to live, a chance to have a job, a chance to be living in security. right now that's not happening. >> how do you make that message cut through first of all the nra which spends a tremendous amount of money and second of all maybe their message is working because there is a poll out from pew that shows more people want to protect gun ownership than control gun ownership and it's a trend that's continuing. how do you make progress in the face of statistics like that, reverend? >> well, more guns certainly

make us less secure. we are in fact the most violent nation on earth. we make the most guns and we shoot them and we make the most bombs and we drop them. we lose 30,000 americans a year to gun violence, 100,000 are injured who do not die. 30,000, those are war like numbers. a hundred thousand who are injured and for the most part don't have insurance is extravagant. that's why i think it deserves a kind of summit meeting because of the kind of numbers. we're fighting to cut down violence in iraq, afghanistan, and then we have a plan to stop the gun increase and a plan for reconstruction. we don't have the same plan for stability at home. these numbers, 300,000 blacks have been killed since 1976. 7,000 a year. this madness must end. we need real, strong help from every level of government leadership. >> you've also been involved in the immigration issue. i think it was just maybe in march that you were in alabama and you had kind of a selma like

march. i want to ask your reaction to the president and his announcement that is going to come later today and we'll also hear from secretary of homeland security janet napolitano that effective immediately certain young people who are brought to the united states as young children will be able to stay. let me get your reaction and what you think the significance of this is, reverend. >> what the president is about to do today is family friendly. it's humane. that includes it will lead us to grow. the hope we'll see this as a -- this is one of the great days of american history. i hope that we will receive this and give them a chance to grow. that is america today at its best. >> what do you think ultimately the impact will be? >> well, i think it leads to growth and everyone wins. we're not in a crisis because of the immigration policy but because we bailed out banks, we

caused very expensive, unnecessary wars. you look at $3 trillion spent in iraq. real big stuff. 1 trillion would cover every state budget deficit. so the imflamigration law for yg people to get a chance, every american deserves a chance and those who come and look for that chance is what makes america great. i think their coming will make us better and stronger and not weaker. >> reverend jackson, always good to have you on the program. thank you so much, sir. >> thank you. >> we'll take one more look at the white house where again 1:15 this afternoon we'll hear from the president and get new details on the new immigration policy. we'll be back with more after this. oto. this summer, save up to 30%, plus get up to $100 on us. welcome to hotels.com. you know that comes with a private island? really? no. it comes with a hat. see, airline credit cards promise flights

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bieber fever, daredevil walk, and only in alaska. let's go down to the wire. rockefeller plaza came down with the bad case of bieber fever. justin bieber rocking the "today" show drawing an estimated 7,000 to 8,000 people,

some waiting since tuesday. bieber even helped matt lauer send his very first tweet but commandeered his phone. hello everyone. go buy justin bieber's album i believe coming out june 19th. okay. tonight daredevil nick wolenda will try to walk across niagara falls on a tight rope 1800 feet long, 200 feet above the bottom of the gorge. the last time someone tried this grover cleveland was president and utah had just become a state. who needs dominos when you have popsicle sticks? at the tokyo annual toy show 10,000 wooden sticks were set up and knocked down. a new world record that 17 people worked more than 18 hours to set it up. it went down in seconds. file this under only in alaska. a pair of black bears were caught on camera wandering around the halls of an anchorage high school. school is out for the summer, fortunately. police ran the bears out of the building. that wraps up this hour of jansing & company. i'm chris jansing. thomas roberts in washington, d.c. today.

what's coming up at 11:00? >> hi, chris. we have a lot coming up in the next hour. breaks news. president obama saying the federal government will soon give work permits to illegal immigrants who came to the u.s. as kids. how does this political power play impact the president's re-election bid? we'll examine that. also minutes from now mitt romney launches his every town counts bus tour. might be a misleading title. which towns and states really count? we break it all down starting in new hampshire. and then a break in the trial of jerry sandusky after a week of very emotional victim testimony as the prosecution gets ready to rest its case and we speak to the lawyer for victim number six. that and much more coming up the next hour. blast of cold feels nice. why don't you use bengay zero degrees? it's the one you store in the freezer. same medicated pain reliever used by physical therapists. that's chilly. [ male announcer ] new bengay zero degrees. freeze and move on.

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when i save 20% on my hotel i do my happy dance. good morning, everybody. i'm thomas roberts. we begin with breaking news this afternoon or this morning with president obama scheduling to deliver these remarks from the rose garden this afternoon where he is going to officially announce a significant change in federal policy towards illegal immigrants. this is big news today. the president is going to