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radio you just tripped over something. >> i don't remember. >> you don't remember. somebody help you fall? >> no. >> prison staff suspected inmate is covering up his own brutal beating. >> i don't like using the same broom everyone uses because i am bringing their funk in my cell. >> two inmates share disturbing charges. >> when are i was younger, i was a very, very bad person. >> i ended up baying a chain
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saw. cutting her corpse into about 15 different pieces. >> one victim's mother still lives the nightmare. >> i go by the dumpster and i wonder if that's one of my daughter's last resting places. >> lock up, lock up ♪ >> another inmate tries to make a difference. >> at the end of the day, is about choices. all november stuff is an illusion.
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>> indiana's wabash correction facility houses 2200 inmates. more than one third are doing time for serious violent crimes. unless isolated in solitary confinement, the vast fama jority live in two-man cells. it's a constant challenge. >> we're try to not put people that's doing with people who goes home next year or blacks with whites or white supremacist with someone with a child molestation case. someone who resolved the conflict. >> with careful screening, conflicts can still arise. >> there was a guy in the infirmary who received several injuries to his facial and head area. he had a seizure so we will go over and try to talk to him. they discovered he may have been
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assaulted and we will talk to him and see what we can find out if he is willing to talk at all. >> the victim is curtis cash who is serving a 29-year sentence for burglary. >> cash. what's up with you, man? >> you can lay down if you want to. what happened? >> i fell in my cell. >> that's a nasty fall. did you get dizzy? >> yeah. >> did you have a seizure? >> i don't remember. >> have you fell like this before since you have been here? >> no. >> first time? >> yeah. >> do you have medical conditions? did you trip over something? >> i don't remember. >> somebody help you fall? >> no. >> no? safe to assume something more than you falling happen that you don't want to talk about? who do you live with? >> woods. >> woods? what's his first name? >> i don't know.
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>> how long did you live together? >> months. >> months. do you think you are safe? do you think you will fall again? >> no. >> for whatever reason you fill this time you won't fall no more? >> should be, yeah. >> you understand where i'm coming from. we have to protect you. >> i fell. leave it at that. >> you don't want to talk about what happened? i'm going to get you fixed up. they have done x-rays, right? all right. >> they reported that he had fallen in a cell. that is typical in prison. they don't want to snitch on anybody. they had a seizure or playing basketball. he had substantial injuries and his jaw is broken and his orbital is fractured. something was done with a hot
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pot that was broken in the cell that was found. the cellmate is in cuffs. we will talk to him and see what he has to say. >> the cellmate is dana woods, serving 70 years for aggravated battery. >> that's what i'm here to talk to you about. substantial injuries for just falling. >> i'm sure the man has h epileptic seizures and they found a man before on the floor. >> there was a lot of blood in the cell. hot did that hot pot get broke. >> it was broke because it was fixing a pot pot before and it had been in the trash the whole time. >> i can tell you i have been here 15 years and ain't nobody ever had a fall that looked like that. >> he had to. he fell on the bed. >> i'm not going to tell you
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what he told me just like i wouldn't tell anybody what you told me if you were beat up. they have never done it once and i won't start now. he might have told me he fell or beat the [ bleep ] out of him. >> that didn't -- >> you know running around here assaulting people. you are not going to man up and tele me what happened and why it happened. >> i am not going to push the buttons of the man. >> that's not the truth at all. we both know it. i will make different housing arrangements for you if you don't want to tell me what was going on. >> he's maintaining the story that nothing happened. he didn't do anything. the guy fell. at this point we will go in and i will look at the cell and see what he looks like. >> while violence between
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cellmates is a possibility in prison, for phillip and curtis, living together had the opposite effect. >> is that that diabetic nasty peanut butter? why don't you put a cooko the peanut butter. that's not like the snack. >> all right. >> lawyer heavenly lord, we thank you for this meal. >> kurt is a good brother, man. he's a gentle giant. he brought a lot of balance into my life. we have been cellies for two years. >> stroud never imagined he would have a cellmate. he used to be housed on indiana's death row awaiting execution. >> i am in prison for three counts of murder, three counts of robbery and two counts of dealing cocaine. i spent three years on death row.
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i went on to robbery. a half million dollars scored. it was a residence and a safe. three people, three innocent people ending up their life when they didn't have to. they didn't deserve to. >> stroud's victims were voterors working at the home, he and accomplices were robbed. they ordered the men tied up and ordered each shot in the head with a pistol. >> when i first walked on death row, the thing that hit me first was the silence. the absolute silence. walking on there was like the
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type of silence that takes you in. it is listening to you, watching your every move. see how you respond to it. >> i came on the unit, 23 years old, trying to predict courage and confidence and strength and on the inside, i was upset and confused and afraid. the thing i remember the most was the cold concrete floor underneath my bare feet. just sitting on the edge of that bunk, man. i just broke down. started crying and crying for a lot of people that i hurt. crying for justice and crying for my mother and during those three years, seven men were executed. they lost their lives. >> a change in indiana's capital laws changed them.
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his sentence was commuted to three life terms without the possibility of parole. stroud's salvation did not make them an inmate. >> i was a 30 of them all. i was a chief among all sinners. the pulley's pulley. i can make things move how i want to make a move. that was just a gift that i had. >> that all changed when he found himself sharing a cell with a man serving 40 years for armed robbery and criminal confinement. >> he was rough around the edges, but me being a mellow guy, i am low key. the guy came through me. >> you are starting to thin out. >> your convertible? i am trying to tell you. the light bulb.
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>> hoae changed a lot. i am thankful that god used me to work with him after his reputation. i'm thankful that i can be used and i have a brother like that that brought balance to my life. >> helping him to become a better man, straud said he is determined to pay it forward. he spends had free time tutoring other inmates. he is trying to earn his ged. >> what would it be? what would it be to answer? obviously the left. >> right. >> don't get missed. >> we are just here trying to offer critical thinking skills and resolution and subtle disputes without resorting to violence and use the platform and the credibility that i used to try to effect positive change
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on these youngsters's lives in here and on the streets. >> you are doing good. you catch on quick. >> coming up, two cellmates with two unthinkable crimes and later -- prison surveillance provide says a new view as investigators try to figure out what happened to kurtish cash and whether his cellmate should bear the blame. what makes a sleep number store different? you walk into a conventional mattress store, it's really not about you. they say, "well, if you wanted a firm bed you can lie on one of those.
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>> at indiana's constructional facility, most live in two-man cells. like any two people sharing close quarters, cleanliness is vital. >> why are you sweeping with your hands? >> i don't like using the same broom that everyone uses because
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i'm bringing their funk in my cell. >> when are we doing the spring cleaning? >> when will it be today in. >> i was just asking. i probably make time for it sometime on the weekend. >> do it sunday. plano sunday. >> cellmates for about a year, joshua and his cellmate might have different priors, but share the stigma on unthinkable crimes. >> from day one, i have known that the things that i have done, even among criminals was way, way off. off the deep end. i was younger, i was a very,
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very bad person. something was broken. i just didn't think. like other kids my age did. >> he was 14 years old the day he committed the heinous crimes that brought him to prison. he was high on inhale ants. his victim was a 69-year-old female neighbor who was working in the back yard of her trailer home. >> i see her front door is open. me being the person i was that clicked. go get some money. that was my spent when i went up in there. she came in and she actually scared me when she came in. i didn't know she came in. i attacked her. i sexually assaulted her. i killed her.
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and i robbed her. then i left. the poor woman didn't stand a chance. >> prosecutors determined he not only strangled his victim, but sexually assaulted her after her death. he was sentenced to 77 years for robbery, murder, and abuse of a corpse. he has already served 15 and with good behavior could be out of prison by age 50. he currently lives in wabash's protective custody unit that houses inmates whose lives could be at risk in general population due to the nature of their crimes. his cellmate joshua shares the same unusual pairing of convictions. murder and abuse of a corpse.
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he is serving 68 years. the victim was his ex-girlfriend, heather norris. >> it was a toxic relationship and i still very much love her. >> throughout the couple's three-year relationship, heather told her family that he was physically abusive. even though being faced with impending trial, he said he wasn't abusive. >> it was predicated on a lie. the lie is that we had a violent relationship. i'm going to say i'm without fault, but as far as what happened with her death, worst case, voluntary manslaughter. best case, self defense. >> bean insists they had an
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argument and heather came at him with a knife. >> i tried to pry the knife out of her hand and even still after i had a knife, she continued to come forth. that kind of caught me off guard. in the heat of the moment, i reacted. i stabbed her in the side right here. >> according to court records, bean confessed that he stabbed heather several sometime times and slit her throat. no one knows for sure because her body was never recovered. >> i decided to try to do something with the body. i thought cremation. but at the time i didn't know the specifics behind it. i made an attempt to burn her body. a botched attempt. i ended up buying a chain saw.
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>> that's what people can't get past. what happened after. >> coming up, the mother of josh bean's victim speaks out. >> i go by a dumpster and i wonder if that's one of my daughter's last resting places. >> you probably tried to clean the blood up before it arrived. blood on the bedding and some on the back window. >> investigator littlejohn tries to determine if one site is a crime scene or accident scene. saved from death row, phillip stroud leads the choir. [ male announcer ] trophies and awards lift you up. but they can also hold you back. unless you ask, what's next? [ zapping ] [ clang ]
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that's typical. nobody falls and-s that many injuries. >> littlejohn suspects he might have used a hot pod. >> this was retrieved out of his cell. >> he was down in the trash. >> littlejohn's next step is to investigate the cell itself. >> looks like you can see probably a little blood here. looks like you tried to clean the blood up before the staff arrived. there is blood on the bedding and the back window. it was probably a little struggle. it looks like he already packed his property. that's typical.
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the officers don't get things mixed up or whatever. he is ready to go to segregation. >> he checks the surveillance. no coverage in the cell, but he wants to rule out the possibility of another assail t assailant. >> nobody comes in and nobody comes out. they didn't go out for breakfast and out for lunch. >> nobody goes in and out? you will see the officers at the cell. this is the oftener with the injuries. this is the cellmate coming out. >> the video doesn't show anything as far as an assault taking place. it shows the two and they didn't come out for breakfast and lunch. whatever happened, obviously happened in the cell. >> woods was taken to the custody control unit, a high
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security cell brock where he will be locked in a single person cell 23 hours a day and the final results of the investigation. >> strip out. everything. everything. >> put that on. >> they put us in a room and they don't give us no manual to teach us how to live in a box with another man. it's really hard. really hard. especially if there seizures, every time they hurt themselves, you get blamed. >> joshua bean faces new troubles. >> i got you showing positive for methamphetamine. >> later, his victim's mother talks about the brutality of her daughter's murder. >> i have nightmares of heather's last moments was
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calling out for me to help her.
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. >> i'm veronica de la cruz. a handcuffed jerry sandusky was whisked away to jail and will likely never see on the outside again. he was found guilty on 45 of 48 counts that rock the university. sandusky looked stunned and said nothing as he exited the courthouse and faces a minimum 60-year sentence. his attorneys said they asked that he is allowed to return home, but bail is revoked.
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>> ♪ you don't want to follow because life without parole is a hard pill to swallow. tomorrow is not promised. i can fell the tension ♪ there is no one left for to you hide. there is only two ways out, parole or suicide. why the judges stay away from here. lock up, lock up, everybody locked up. this ain't the place you want to be ♪ lock up, lock up, everybody locked up. this ain't the place you want to be. prison life is hard. >> phillip upon never live life beyond beyond, he found another
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means of liberation. pab be oods moub pblgd thalg kbsmented it maugss my r it makes me free. >> straud makes the prison choir. they perform in sunday church services and special effects and his cellmate curtis has been a constant source of had been and inspiration. >> you made the choice, you should have made the change. nowhere you can run and nowhere left for to you hide. this ain't the way you want to die. i suggest you stay away from here. i know it's hard out on the streets, but prison is harder.
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he raps a lot and i'm looking at myself and it's like a mentor. >> what position you be playing in the choir? >> you look like you can do that. they be gone. i'm just stereotyping. you just based on your stomach. >> that's all right. they will be gone. ♪ amazing grace, how sweet the sound ♪ ♪ that saved a wrech like me ♪ i once was lost --- >> once awaiting execution, stroud is serving three life sentences without the possibility of parole for murder. >> i have been using my street credibility to power my testimony and my music to try to
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influence them in a different direction. i am and a lot of people who do look towards me. >> it's 11 years since the triple murder that brought him to prison. for the past seven years he had a clean conduct record. one very different than the who used to wreak havoc on the streets. >> if you have something that i wanted, whether it was your give or your car or money or your territory, whatever, if i wanted that, i was coming to get that. if you tried to come get it from me, i was coming to get you. if i'm coming to see you, it was over with. usually i tried to be the last person you would see.
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i was the nuclear option. at the end of the day, is about choices. all of this stuff is an illusion. the on the streets, the dope-dealing and the gang banging and the getting drunk and getting high, if you want to keep it real, you have to make better choices than thes we made. the life will lead you down one of three paths. death, a in prison or empty existence on the streets. >> stroud uses music, many others turn to drugs. despite the efforts of staff, drugs are smuggled into the
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prison. trafficking and abuse pose security problems. creeks officers conduct surprise shake downs to find and confiscate drugs, often with the use of a drug detection dog. inmates are required to given europe sachls. today's target is the protective custody unit. >> bring them out and shut them down. >> the final four. >> remember these guys are in protective custody. >> among those to be searched and tested are two of the more high profile inmates. joshua bean and dustin.
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open 504. >> shortly after, they are allowed back into their cell. corrections officers returned to administer the drug test. >> we tested for eight differently druks. oxy and pcp and cocaine and marijuana. >> the containers are designed with a drug detection patch that provides immediate results. . >> right now i got you showing a pruptive positive for methamphetamine. you want to send it to the lab? >> there is no way. >> if an inmate tests positive, he can request a second test at an outside lab. he is confident it's the result
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of a prescription drug he is allowed to take. >> i am on wellbutrin. that will be tested in a lab? doing narcotics or anything back here is next to impossible. i don't have a doubt when it goes to the lab, i will be all right. >> for bean, a positive test can result in a transfer out of a protective unit. where the high profile nature, the murder of his ex-girlfriend and corpse can make him a target with other inimates. >> i haven't been anywhere from a count to in prison that i haven't run into someone who knew who i was. the news about my case. that kind of thing, it will fist you everywhere. i tested positive for pot maybe a year or two ago. they took me to a disciplinary unit.
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>> per it's been nearly a week since inmate dana woods has been accused of brutally beating his cellmate. curtis cash suffered a broken jaw and a bloodied face. since then, woods has been on a 23-hour lockdown in the custody control unit as internal affairs completed its investigation.
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>> for appeared from the scene when we arrived that cash had been assaulted by woods with a hot pot. he had sustained lacerations to his face and multiple bruising to his neck and all over his body. >> they are sticking to the same story. cash's injuries were the result of falling down in the cell. >> because of the lack of cooperation from the alleged assailant and the alleged victim, we did not file any external or internal charges on mr. woods or mr. cash. >> both of these guys have a lot of years left. it's normal for him not to want to talk. he is not going to be labeled as a snitch. it will further the probability. he is maintaining that he fell. you can't make him talk. >> woods was released from the custody control unit and
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returned to general population. he has been given a new cell assignment in another housing unit. >> you have to get along. you have got to. >> we get along good. >> you have seen cash since the altercation? >> no. he is on the other side of the prison. >> did you guys leave on good terms? >> of course. >> over in the protective custody unit, joshua bean received word on his ongoing investigation. after testing positive for methamphetamine during a recent shake down, bean requested that an outside lab conduct its own test. the results came back negative. backing up bean's claims. >> i take wellbutrin and pretty much everything that takes wellbutrin tested positive for meth. >> thanks. >> you're welcome. >> that's what i figured it
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would be after i tested positive. i knew i hadn't been doing anything. >> open your mouth. thank you. >> although the prescription drug creates problem when is he is tested, according to bean it's his line. he said he needs the medication to cope with the anxiety and stress of being incarcerated for the murder of his girlfriend. >> just when i think i have a grip on it, these wounds or scar tissue i thought was healed opened back up all over again. sometimes even partially in tears and hit the off switch when i don't have. there is no on and off. it happen when is it happens. i have to deal with it. >> on the eve of his 30th birthday, his cellmate spent nearly half of his in prison for
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murdering and sexually assaulting a 69-year-old woman. he attempts to make peace with the past. >> i didn't used to like myself. i love the hatred for myself for a long time. on the back of my arms it has freak of nature. this means freak. this is nature. i started seeing things completely different. i started to understand things. i changed. i don't want to say it's because i found god or anything like that. that truthfully came afterwards. i didn't get religious or anything until years after i figured out what a piece of crap i used to be. >> coming up -- >> i can never ask you to forgive me for the horrible things. >> cellmates reach out to the
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women they murdered, but whose bodies they desecrated. >> i never wanted anything other than your love. i never would have hurt you. >> the mother of bean's victim has a different account. >> i know that heather was beaten by him at least times. summer in new york state has something different for everyone to love. discover what you love. visit ilovenewyork.com to plan your summer trip now. laces? really? slip-on's the way to go. more people do that, security would be like -- there's no charge for the bag. thanks. i know a quiet little place where we can get some work done. there's a three-prong plug. i have club passes. [ male announcer ] get the mileage card with special perks on united, like a free checked bag,
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more than 2,000 inmates are housed behind the walls of the wabash valley correctional facility. but housing assignments are temporary as they just found out. they were recently moved from the larger corner cell to a smaller on the other side of the unit. >> why did they move you out of the big corner area. >> did you see the dude in that cell? he is about this big. >> sheer bigger and i think he
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needed that cell more than we did. >> you think they moved you out because there was a bigger guy? >> i think it was a handicapped cell andy woor both kind of small. i am bigger than him, but the guy that is bigger than me needed the cell more than me. they looked like they were in a match box in here. >> for stroud, the only thing that changed is the view. >> it's all prison. that's how i looked at it. whether the cell was times the size or half of this size, i have been in worse situations. i look at it like we are still in prison and still can't go home. the only environment that really matters is the environment right here. you know what i mean? i got a nice view. i got a view that i look at now. >> i will step over here. >> to any young person who
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thinks coming to prison is cool or whatever, come here. that's what i got to look out at for the rest of my life. those wires. that might be the closest that i ever get to freedom. it is close, but far away. that's what my extended stay is like. that's how it is for real. that's real life. it ain't how it looks in the movies. it ain't none of that. this is my bed. when i look out the window, that's what i see. >> dustin keeps a unique record of the many cells he occupied over the last 15 years. >> i wrote down where i was every birthday that i had since i have been here. 15th was in the drunk tank of my county jail. 16th was in the cell right above me. 17th was over here on the right
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side. 18th was on the right side. >> he decided to mark his 30th birthday by writing a letter to the elderly woman he robbed, murdered and sexually assaulted. >> i can't yet find it in me to forgive myself. i am sorry i stole your sense of security when i snuck into your home and stole your accomplishments and endeavor when is i took your belongings and stole your dignity when i assaulted you in the ways i did. i'm sorry i stole you from your loved ones when i cowardly took the life god gave you. there is no words that can express how sorry i am. to those who knew and loved her, i am sorry. i am not asking for your forgiveness either. i hurt you in ways i have only just begun to understand. you have ever right to hate you. i hated myself for a long time.
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every day for over half of my life, not a moment has gone by when i didn't hang my head in guilt and shame. that's it. >> why did you feel the need to write that? >> well, i think it was this was as much for myself as it was for anybody else's sake. i probably sound kind of silly, but i really didn't, couldn't comprehend death until someone i knew, until i experienced that. it kind of put things in a completely different perspective when my grandma died. >> his cellmate also wrote a letter to heather whom he
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stabbed to death. >> dear heather, i can't put these thoughts into motion anymore. i suppressed so much. now your parents think i abused and beat you on multiple occasions and now your friends think i controlled and forced you to be with me. i am so far from abusive, i find it beyond belief how i wind up where i am. i never wanted anything other than your love. i never would have hurt you. yet you are dead and i might as well be. >> but debbie norris said bean is a liar. >> i know that heather was beaten by him at least four times. four times that were pretty bad. one time she ended up going to the hospital after a beating. two of those beatings, she pressed charges and he was arrested on one charge.
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the other charge was pending. when he killed her. >> derby norris did not allow her daughter to die in vain. after heather's death, she led the effort that resulted in the passing of heather's law that made domestic violence education a requirement in indiana high schools. >> i am trying to educate young people on what a healthy relationship is and the signs they need to look for and what to do and there is people out there who care and there is resources for them to turn to. when you are in an abusive relationship and you decide to go back, you are going to hear the words i'm sorry. i changed. i will never do it again. i love you. and you want to believe it. so you did end up going back. i believe that's what heather did. >> she loved me. i know she did.
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when she was -- after she got off me, i stabbed her right here. she laid down and i held her in my arms and before she died, she said i love you. those were her last words. >> during his sentencing, one of the things he did say was heather's last words were that i love you, josh. i will never believe that. i have nightmares that heather's last moments was calling out for me to help her. because she had done that so many times. i don't see where this would have been any different. >> fact that is indisputable is that bean attempted to get away
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with murdering heather by placing her parts in trash dumpsters throughout indianapolis. heather's body was never recovered. >> i go by a dumpster and i wonder if that's one of my daughter's last resting places. i see black trash bags and it makes me sick. i hear a chain saw and i have to get away. so much is different. obviously he took heather's life. he took mine and he took her dad's and he took her family's and her friend's. moeb is the same. nobody has ever stopped missing heather.

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