he's so vain. let's played soy "hardball." good evening. leading off tonight, here comes that bainy day feeling again. mitt romney says over and over again, he's going to get tough on china. sounds good but today's "washington post" reports bain capital invested in firms that specialized in outsourcing jobs to china. romney and bain capital, this story not going away. also, if you were to judge mitt romney and president obama's

speeches to latino officials on reaction alone, it would be a slam dunk win for the president but the big question for team obama, can they translate the enthusiasm we saw today into votes? plus the jury now has the sandusky case butt jurors don't know the two latest explosive pieces of news about this matter. and the debate over attorney general eric holder and fast and furious has moved from the right wing fringe. why has the republican leadership been treating this story like kryptonite? and let me finish with my homemade solution on obesity question. >> mitt romney frequently says he'll stand up to china and hope bring jobs back home from overseas.

a damn being if you newreport from the "washington post" lays out clearly just how invested bain capital was in companies that outsourced jobs, including to china. "during the nearly 15 years that romney was actively involved in running bain, it owned companies that were pioneers in the practice of sifing work from the united states to oversea call centers and factories, according to the sec. bain has already been an issue. the charges of vulture capitalism. in the beltway you hear people say they didn't play so well but in mid america you get different reaction. what will be the reaction to this? >> mitt romney doesn't want to go beyond to discuss what he did at bain. they have had some success in

the swing states doing this. romney is going to have to establish a difference in his experience in the private sector, which was not about creating job, it was about increasing profits and lowering the cost of products and what he plans to do when he comes into office, which is not outsourcing jobs, despite what chicago is sort of saying right now, that a vote for mitt romney is a vote for offshoring more jobs. mitt romney doesn't want to have that discussion but i think it's going to have to happen at some point. >> the president was quick to react to the post story. he was in tampa this afternoon. let's take a look. >> today it was reported in the "washington post" that the companies his firm owned with pioneers in the outsourcing of american jobs to places like china and india.

pioneers. let me tell you, tampa, we do not need an outsourcing pioneer in the oval office. weep need a president who will fight for american jobs and fight for american manufacturing. that's what my plan will do. >> and romney's camp responded quickly to the post stories. according to political, romney's spokesperson said this is a fundamentally flawed story not domestic outsourcing and versus offshoring. joan walsh, that's a confusing issue. is that going to wash? >> no, it's an intentionally confusing statement and you can see that. the problem for the romney campaign is that the post story was very, very explicit. it is true that outsourcing can

be moving jobs out of a company to another firm that does it cheaper in the united states and that does happen but the post was very careful to delineate the firms that bain invested in whose business model essentially was offshoring a lot of technology jobs. so i think -- i agree with michael, the obama campaign has had some success already with bain. top strategists seem a little built uncomfortable with it and you've got the problem of wall street democrats quite honestly, not sure how hard they want to hit private equity firms. i think it is resonating with voters and i think on this particular issue you've got a hypocrisy. >> to that end romney frequently invokes his time at bain to suggest to he would be a better leader on the economy. he said he knows how jobs are created and what causes them to leave. >> i spent my life in private enterprise, 25 years. i know how businesses work.

i know what causes them to leave and what will bring them back. i want to use that experience to get america working given. for me it's all about good jobs for the american people and a brighter, prosperous future. >> the president then focusses his attack on romney and bain recently on the issue of outsourcing. here is an ad the campaign put out just yesterday. >> running for governor mitt romney campaigned as a job creator. but as a corporate raider, he shipped jobs to china and mexico. as governor he did the same thing, outsourcing state jobs to endia. now he's making the exact same pitch. >> i know why jobs come and why they go. >> outsourcing jobs. romney economics. it didn't work then and won't work now. >> strange thing, i saw that was reviewed by the post, which had the story today and it was the recipient of self pinocchios. seems like within "the

washington post" they can't get it together as to the accuracy those charges. >> the story was accurate and that ad of the false. there is an argument here -- you could have surrogates for democrats defending this. i imagine steve ratner would say if, look, there are benefits to this comparative advantage to allowing other companies produce things peopler, we're able to buy the products cheaper and we have more money to spend. what romney is saying in the clips you just played was my job as president will be different from my job as the private sector businessman. my job will be to create jobs, i'm going to use the experience from my private sector days but my mai job at president will not be what my job was bain was, which was to increase returns for my shareholders. >> joan, it seems the obama campaign all too happy to make

this a referendum on bain. >> yes, you have david axelrod already calling mitt romney the "outsourcer in chief." i think they think this is really productive avenue for them and that the post story give that whole line of reasoning a lot of new life. >> thank you, joan walsh and michael scherer. we appreciate you being here. coming up, president obama gets a spirited welcome from the same latino group that spent a lot of time sitting on its hands yesterday. ning body cream helps transform dry, thinning skin, by strengthening its moisture barrier, for improved texture and elasticity in 2 weeks. reveal healthy, supple skin. aveeno skin strengthening. we make meeting times, lunch times and conference times. but what we'd rather be making are tee times. tee times are the official start of what we love to do. the time for shots we'd rather forget,

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we should have passed the dream act a long time ago. it was written by members of both parties. when it came up for a vote a year and a half ago, republicans in congress blocked it. the bill hadn't changed, the

need hadn't changed. the only thing that had changed was politics. >> welcome back to "hardball." president obama kept up the heat on congress today speaking before the national association of latino and elected official. it's the same event where challenger mitt romney addressed this key constituency yesterday. the president may reference to romney's visit, including a pause for dramatic effect. >> your speaker from yesterday has a different view. in a speechy said that when he makes a promise to you, he'll keep it. well, he has promised to veto the dream act and we should take him at his word. [ applause ] i'm just saying. >> president obama needs latino vote to be motivated in

november. their turnout could be key to his reelection. david is is an msnbc political analyst. erin pike is a rort for clear politics. does it seem the president did what he needed to do? >> president obama simply said that he would sign the dream act if it made it to his desk, which deals with a smaller portion of the nation's illegal immigrants, not all 11 million of them. we heard from a lot of republicans today that said while president obama continues to support the dream act, he didn't go farther than that. he's been saying that his door has been open for three and a half years if congress would like to work with him but a lot of republicans started chiding

him today saying that doesn't say enough. >> 9% of those who came out to vote in '508, if that number gets boosted to 10, 11, 12%, therein would lie a margin of victory in a close race overall. >> if you compare mitt romney's speech yesterday to barack obama's it's like comparing mayonnaise to salsa. president obama talked to them as if he shared their values, talked about comprehensive immigration reform in a way mitt romney couldn't. he talked about those who came across the rio grande, like those who came over on slave ships as being are the paf the great american story. he talked about justice and talked about a lot of things romney couldn't do. i think he was very specific in saying he did try to pass the dream act and it was republican obstructionism to it that

prevented it and it's republicans who can't see their way through the threshold anymore. >> the difference in the reaction from the latino crowd to romney yesterday and obama today was obvious. let's look at president obama's wrapup today. >> america was built by who said something different, who said yes we can. and as long as i have the privilege of being your president, i will be alongside you fighting for the country that we together dream of! god bless you! thank you. god bless the united states of america. >> and the reaction to governor romney's speech was much more muted. it's easy to selectively edit these things but actually these are some of romney's bigger applause lines. >> as president i won't settle for stopgap measures.

i'll work with republicans and democrats to build a long-term solution and i'll prioritize measures -- [ applause ] >> i will stand for a path to legal status for anyone who is willing to stand up and defend this great nation through military service. thank you so much and god bless this great land. thank you. >> these reactions are born out in a new poll of latino voters in battleground states that shows president obama with a huge lead. there you can see it, 74-18% in arizona, colorado, 70 to 22, florida, 53 to 37, nevada 69 to 20, virginia 59 to 28. what drives the numbers, the economy, the immigration issue, a combination of both? >> it's certainly a combination of both. president obama used much of his speech to talk about his

economic vision versus mitt romney. of course that's part it have. those polls you show are largely in the west where president obama is generally doing better. i would point out, though, the population of latino voters were through the midwest where that population is smaller and mitt romney is doing better in some of those other states. so, yes, this is where this election is going to be litigated. >> when mitt romney spoke to the latino group yesterday, a lot of people expected him to give a specific response to president obama's executive order i just referenced. here's houw he handled it. >> some people have asked will i let stand the president's executive order? i will put in place my own long-term solution that will replace and supersede the president's temporary measure. as president i won't settle for stopgap measures. >> not very specific.

today the obama campaign put out a web video, complete with the sound of a ticking stop watch in the background pointing out how many days have passed without a response from romney to the executive order. >> you said this is a short-term solution to a long-term problem. but would you repeal this order if you became president? >> well, let step back and look at the issue. >> what would you do about it? would you repeal this? i won't keep on about this but to make sure i understand it. would you leave this in place while you worked out a long-term solution or would you just repeal it? >> we'll look at that setting as we reach that. >> it can leave you scratching your head and wondering why a man who wants to president can't tell us more about what who we do. >> erin, he's got to come up with more specificity, no? >> he knows if he's litigating immigration policy with the

president, he's losing in a lot of places where he needs to start winning. today the romney campaign put out several responses from hispanic officials saying the problem with this speech is the hispanic community has seen the unemployment rate increasend this president and they don't want to talk about immigration policy. when mitt romney was running for president in 2007 and 2008 he tried to grind down his opponents by running to the right of them on immigration policy. he did the same thing against rick perry. if he softens his position, he runs the risk of looking like a flip flopper. he's really in a tough spot as far as immigration is concerned. >> one explanation might be that that he set to get with senator rubio was stolen and the two were going to be very, very similar. >> it was. the thing is about rubio's

proposal is that romney had not really endorsed it and most of the republican leadership was very luke warm on it. rubio was looking like an orphan with this idea. but regardless of that, the president came in and very politically savvy way just totally undercut any possibility that romney had of getting covered on this issue through marco rubio's plan. i doubt marco rubio will be on the ticket. as i said earlier, because of what erin just said, too, romney has put himself into concrete when it comes to the immigration issue, in a way that leads to no opportunity to have an opening with community. i think obama hit it out of the park today. if you had latino voters the day before the elections watch romney's speech and this the president's speech today, i'd be surprised if the split wasn't 80/20. >> thank you. we appreciate it. up next, republicans are celebrating the supreme court's overturning health care reform

but the trouble is it hasn't happened yet. stick around for the side show.

welcome back. time for the side show. first up, a glimpse into the future courtesy of republican senate candidate richard murdoch of indiana. in video he cheers the supreme court's decision to strike down the health care act. but the supreme court hasn't ruled yet. >> we've had our moment of celebration because the supreme court ruled it is unconstitutional. don't sit back and think the fight is over because it isn't. barack obama and congressman joe

donnelly are already putting obamacare 2.0 together and they're going to try to pass it once again. we cannot let that happen. >> turns out the murdoch campaign is covering all bases and preproduced reactions to all possibilities. yesterday the romney campaign asked florida governor rich scott to stop bragging about his state's strong economic rebound. very inconvenient for the argument that president obama has ruined everything. romney and scott aides both pushed back but not before team obama released a mock letter that reads rick, i see you've been touting florida's improving economy -- please stop.

and finally jon stuart compares voting in egypt to voting in florida. >> egypt's election committee said it will not announce the presidential runoff winner tomorrow after all. the group says it has to review hundreds of complaints about the voting. >> hundreds of complaints? you know what that's called in florida? the best, most efficient election in the history of florida. what are you doing? take the money and run! you get more complaints a night in boca ratton at an olive guardon. >> florida, florida, florida may never live down that 2000 election. and one sideshow friday night bonus as president obama bounded on to the stage in tampa this afternoon, his feet got a little ahead of him. he wrote that off to enthusiasm.

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