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people are fighting life and people snappiesly. >> it provides a new beginning for an old bank robber. >> i've been writing bank robber blues, it's a page turner. >> and a mother who put drugs before her son gets another chance. >> i never seen my mom in jail. it's just really hard on me. ♪ ♪ >> orange county, california, conjures images of well
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manicured neighborhoods and a surfer culture that gave birth to the beach boys. but blending seamlessly into the heart of one of his busiest neighborhoods is a reminder of the county's other side. the theo lacy jail is the largest of five jail facilities in the orange county systems, sitting on 11 acres and has a capacity of more than 3,000 inmates. >> let's go! hands behind your backs. >> mark gonzalez is one of them. and except for his jail issued t-shirt and scrubs, he could easily be mistaken for any other fun-loving o.c. teenager. >> i love surfing, i love the ocean. it's the best promise land, nothing could go wrong except for robbing a weed store and getting arrested. ♪ >> my mom's in a lot of shock right now.
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first feans, my baby's robbing weed stores, what! what does he need that for? >> unlike most inmates in the jail system, who have not been convicted but are awaiting trial, gonzalez pled guilto robbery and received a one-year sentence. with good behavior, he could be out in nine months. and if his family gets its way, back in minnesota. >> i have a bunch of newspapers under my bed because my mom sent my a subscription. i wanted to stay updated on minnesota, concert wise, weather, everything that's going on. i'm the first one in my family to get in trouble. he have treatment history, but it never led to any crime. they're so shocked. they send me letters every day. they get mad when i don't talk to them. they still love me. i'm doing nine months for a first-time offense, that's a lot of time. >> time he could have avoided
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if, as he claims, he hadn't allowed himself to be talked into committing robbery. >> my crony asked me out of the blue, how would you like to rob a marijuana store? i was like whoa, that's not me. i try to keep it peaceful with everybody. it grows from the ground. why would you need to steal it? probably like two months lafrt, we're out of money, out of weed. we're stressing. how about now? and i was like, all right, we'll see how it goes. >> gonzalez and his friend targeted a medical marijuana dispensary that had a delivery service. >> they came, delivered it to us, he asked for my information. i was pretending to dig through it. he came around back with the gun and did what he did and we just hopped out and that was it. less than a week later, gonzalez and his friend were pulled over for a cracked windshield. the police officer then smelled marijuana coming from the car. >> they search the car, find the gun, the weed.
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match the weed up with the description of the robbery and then the gun, he admitted that was his. so i didn't get charged with the armed robbery, thank god. i learned my lesson. yeah, i learned my lesson. not to get pulled over! [ laughter ] i'm just kidding. >> because he is a low-risk first-time offender, gonzalez has had one piece of good news. instead of being housed among the hundreds of inmates facing charges like murder, rape, or gang activity, gonzalez has been assigned to live in the minimum security workers barracks, probably the most desirable housing unit in the entire jail. >> as you see, it's a barracks type of settings. they're free to go anywhere within this side of the barracks, playing ping-pong and cards, watch tv, read the newspaper. so they have a little bit more freedom in that it's a big dorm-style barracks.
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>> pick it up. if you don't want it -- >> that's the way, tony. >> it's a spade. >> for every six days that you work, you get another extra day of good time and an extra day of work time taken off of your sentence. so for every six days that you're in custody and working, it's like eight days, alongside they behave. >> gonzalez works in the laundry facility. >> that's for the surplus. >> i work all the clothes that everyone wears. i sort them, fold them, take them off the truck, brand new, fresh socks, pants, i get new clothes every day. never dirty. always new. that's what matters. that's what matters. did you ever do laundry when you were at home? >> no. my mom would always be doing my laundry. >> gonzalez says he has a good
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relationship with his mother. she's about to fly in from minnesota for her first visit to the jail. >> she wasn't happy with me last time we talked. so we'll see what she has to say. >> three miles away, in the women's wing of orange county central jail facility, paula revis, serving three years for identity theft and forgery and also preparing for a mother-son reunion. >> it's hard for him because i'm in here. i just want him to forgive me, that i'm not out there for him. i want him to know that i want to be out there. rivas's son is a marine who deployed to afghanistan seven months ago. >> i always wanted my son to join the military, but when you realize they're going to war and
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there's nothing you can do, it's not easy, especially being here in jail. he has nothing to come home to. i'm in here. i can't write -- i could write him, but it's difficult now. i don't want him to get a letter with orange county jail stamped on it. >> i look for articles about over there, overseas. >> every time i see the newspapers, losing 11, ten men. i don't know if it's my boy. >> she says she loves her son, but as admittedly not been there for him over the years. she was often more focused on drugs than family. >> i was getting high one way or another, 9 years old, whether it be on weed, drinking, back then, lsd, pcp. in my later years, it was mostly coke for a while. but i went to heroin, meth, i've been coming here for the last ten years consistently.
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and it's pretty sad that i know the deputies more at this place more than my own family. i know this place more than my son. >> this is the first time her son has been deployed while she's been locked up. normally she would serve her time in prison, but a judge granted her request to stay at the orange county jail so she can be closer to her son when he returns from afghanistan. >> prison is a cake-walk. so much easier. i got it made up there. upstate, it's our house. this is their house. over here, it's the deputies'. it's their house. they run it as their home. it's very tight. nobody wants to do their time here. chosen to stay to see my boy. everybody thought i'm crazy. but, no, i want that 45 minutes with him. because you never know if it's going to be the last.
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coming up, i drink and i get aggressive, i said i wasn't going to drink again, here we are. >> cellmates share tales of booze and bank robbery. >> throughout the years, i probably robbed more than a hundred, no more than 150, put it that way. so i'm not listening... to anyone but myself. i know better nutrition when i see it: great grains. great grains cereal starts whole and stays whole. see the seam? more processed flakes look nothing like natural grains. you can't argue with nutrition you can see. great grains. search great grains and see for yourself. for multi grain flakes that are an excellent source of fiber try great grains banana nut crunch and cranberry almond crunch.
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>> the most trusted inmates in orange county california, live in the workers barracks of the theo lacy jail, where they enjoy more privileges and freedom and movement than other housing units. the majority of the inmates live under much more restrictive conditions. they're confined to one or two-man cells in housing units known as modules or mods. are any of them giving you issues? >> no, really haven't had any issues, at least as of today. >> most of these inmates require
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a lot more supervision due to their charges and criminal sophistication. they're entitled to two hours every day of day room, three times a week they get an hour in the rec facility. the rest of the time they're in their cell, 22 hours. >> today, some of the inmates are being pulled out of their cells for a surprise shakedown. we search cells to find contraband, weapons, drugs. >> let's go, guys. go out to rec, enjoy your time out there and keem pull you back in. >> a lot of time they'll keep fruit and turn it into jail house alcohol. they'll save bread. the yeast in the bread will ferment the sugary juice. it will turn into pruneo, which they're making one right here. this could be dangerous because there's no way that they can
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know what the alcohol content is on this. >> ryan abbey has never been caught with alcohol in jail, but it's gotten him into plenty of trouble on the outside. >> i drink and i get aggressive, i guess, and start arguing. you know, it's pitiful. ♪ >> i haven't had a drink in 16 months. so this is the first -- well, actually the second time i've drank in 16 months and this is where it brought me back to. so i did five months here last time i was here last year. i said i wasn't going to drink again. here we are. >> but alcohol is more than just a problem for abbey. it's also the foundation of his career. >> i'm an investor in a vodka comp called booty vodka. it's got a really good taste,
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and it's smooth. >> dare i ask if that's what you were intoxicated on when you -- >> oh, you are a hundred percent correct. that was -- it sneaks up on you, let me just say that. it will sneak up on you, but, yeah, we had a few shots that night. i was celebrating a bar that i was a part owner of too, that we sold. every time i drink, this is what happens. >> unfortunately for abbey, falling off the wagon will likely lead to consequences beyond jail. he's expecting to get a prison sentence the next time he goes to court. >> it's a different experience, but you just got to show the respect that you show when you're here, for the deputies, for the inmates, you know, it is what it is, i guess. >> abbey's cellmate jimmy tor ez can tell him all about life in prison. >> i spent all of my 30s inside. i got out when i was 41. the government don't mess around.
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when they hammer you, they hammer you good. ♪ torres is at orange county, appealing his conviction for an armed bank robbery he claims he didn't commit, but he does take credit for dozens of other bank robberies, some of which landed him a prior 11-year sentence in federal penitentiary. >> the yankee bandit, my cellmate, he was a world famous bank robber, holding the record at banks robbed. >> i was like i'm just getting warmed up at 72. throughout the years, i probably robbed a hundred, no more than 150, put it that way. >> torres says the inspiration to become a bank robber occurred when he was a young boy growing up in a tough part of orange county. >> i never had money in my
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pocket to buy an ice cream. that bothered me because all the other kids had money. i got caught stealing one time. i remember seeing that movie with f dun away. i remember walking home that day and saying, i'm going to rob a bank like bonny and collide used to. i was kicking rocks. >> how much money do you think you've gotten from your bank robberies all these years? >> i don't know. you might want to ask caesar's palace or something. i have no idea. i never counted. >> torres says he didn't just gamble away his loot, but was a modern day robin hood. i give money to homeless people on the street. i remember one time i was coming out of a bank around christmas time and kids were out there with the salvation army and i said, i don't have any money right now, but i'll be right back. you can imagine what i did.
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>> now 49 years old, torres started his career as a bank robber when he was only 17, and he claims all of his robberies have been non-violent. >> i'd go in there and basically just pass a note. i never used a gun. i would put this is a robbery. give me the hundreds and from the bottom drawer. the top drawer is chump change. you want where the big money is at. >> torres became known as the mummy bandit because of how he would cover his face during robberies. but he says the mummy in these photos, which led to his latest conviction, is an imposter. >> i would put bandaids to hide my identity, bandaids, nothing like the guy in the surveillance picture. where is the money bandit? he happens to be on the streets today. okay? i'm an easy scapegoat. got to be this guy, he's robbed
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more banks than anyone on the planet. >> investigators linked his dna to the hot worn by the bank robber. but now he hads a new attorney who has file for re-trial. >> certainly evidence was not brought forth and should have been brought forth. my trial attorney passed away from a brain tumor. had a brain tumor, no wonder, kept forgetting everything i kept telling her. she did fatal mistakes during my trial. >> coming up -- >> hi, son. >> hello. >> mark gonzalez gets a visit from his mother. >> and later -- >> i joined the marine corps for her. just trying to get her to be proud of me for once. >> paula rivas's son braces for a visit with his mother. ♪
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>> i'm gonna leave on probation. >> say it again. >> marc gonzalez came to orange county to surf and enjoy the california lifestyle. he'll leave as a convicted felon per participating in the robbery of a medical marijuana delivery man, and presumably with considerably less air. >> that's me right there, all dreaded out. couldn't see a thing, didn't have my glasses. i came in with no shoes and a tank top. i was pretty stoned. >> drug use had led to problems before his arrest as well. >> seventh, eighth, grade, smoking pot. then psych dellics, then i got placed into an outpatient rehab facility for the first time. it didn't work. i relapsed. i was losing jobs, failing school, wasn't doing that well. i barely graduated. >> now three months into his
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one-year sentence, gonzalez is headed to the visiting room at orange county's theo lacy jail, his mother has just flown in from his home state of minnesota. >> hi, son. >> helo. >> oh, my gosh, this is the first time i've seen you with your hair cut. i really like it. how was your day today? >> i was all right. just sat outside and read a lot. it was really sunny out. so i've been sitting outside a lot. >> are you still working every day? >> every day. >> that's a good thing, isn't it? >> yeah. time goes by fast. >> have you checked into classes, son? >> no. >> okay. >> one thing gonzalez and his mother still need to settle and exactly where he will fulfill his court mandated rehab. >> because i can do a program here and transfer for free instead of paying. >> transfer where? here? >> from the phoenix house here and transfer over there to the
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phoenix house once i get out. they'll pick me up and it's free. >> yeah -- well. >> you'd rather have me go to minnesota? >> yeah. you'll have so much more family support and that will be critical to your recovery. >> but it's just going to be hard with all my friends there and all my friends -- >> yeah, they do. >> it's going to be hard. you know that. it's hard for me to start another group of friends. out here, i'll have a fresh, new start. >> but it's going to be hard no matter where you go. >> can go either way. i don't want to be surfing for five years. i kind of would rather go the other way. >> but you can snow more. >> i can go snowboard here. >> but i just think that the support is something that is crucial. >> yeah, that's true. i want to choose what's best for me when i get out of here. >> yeah. >> so far things have been going
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well for me here. where i've been placed in the houts. because when i feed, i don't know if i told you, when the feed the mods, it's totally different. people are locked up in a totally different way than i am. it's made me be so thankful for where i am. i would probably never be in the mods. the mods is like way inside, like so sunlight, two-man cell. you're in a cell. >> really? >> they lock the door on you. >> so that's where you see the real serious inmates, i would imagine? >> it's a whole different world. >> are they close to you? i mean, that's somewhat disturbing. >> you can't hear me? >> when their 45 minutes is up, the intercomis cut off and gonzalez' time with his mother comes to an abrupt end. >> i love you. i'll see you tomorrow. >> what? >> i'll see you tomorrow.
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♪ >> so how did it go? >> it was all right. really good to see her. i haven't seen her in a while or really heard her voice. at first she seemed just kind of worried and really sad, but she's really strong. so she picked herself up it was really good to talk to her and see her. soon i'll see the rest of my family and everything will be going by fast and soon i'll be out of here. >> she's probably feeling pretty down right now. we get cut off, dead silent. i can't do sign language or nothing, can't write no notes, don't want to get in trouble. so she's probably pretty sad. she has to go back all alone, but i'll see her tomorrow. i miss her a lot. used to do so much together. now she's visiting me in jail. that's part of our journey, still continuing what we do.
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not going to hold us back or change anything at all. >> coming up? ♪ ♪ i'm wanted down south >> the mummy bandit sings the blues and works on his autobiography. >> i got some critics here who say it's a page-turner. >> and marc gonzalez runs into big trouble. >> it's bad here. blockbuster like i do, you know how hard it can be to breathe and what that feels like. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms
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. >> here's what's happening. a mass shooting at a midnight premiere leaves twelve people dead, 70 shot in all. the gunman entered a colorado theater and opened fire. the suspect is 24-year-old james holmes. a former doctoral student, arrested near the scene. police say his apartment is boby trapped and the rigging appears to be sophisticated. authorities have evacuated the building as they investigate. i'm veronica della cruz, now
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back to "lockup." da da da da ♪ ♪ da da da da ♪ i'm in orange county ♪ in l.a. ♪ i'm wanted down south ♪ and there's no place i can stay ♪ ♪ i'm down in el paso, so i got to lay low ♪ ♪ i'll wipe my tracks and get away to mexico ♪ ♪ because i'm a wanted man ♪ i'm america's most wantedman ♪ if you see me coming baby ♪ i'll be on the lam >> jimmy torres has plenty of reasons to sing the blues. he spent 11 years in a federal penitentiary and was recently convicted of a bank robbery he
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says he didn't commit. >> if you see me coming baby, i'll be on the lam, da da da da da! i was america's most wanted guy. thanks. that's the crowd. unfortunately they're a captured audience. >> torres used to sing in a band on the accounts, but he's better known for being a patrol itch irk bank robber. now he's pursuing a literary career, working on his autobiography. >> i got a couple critics here, i let them read it. they say it's a page-turner, it keeps the reader interested. it doesn't take a genius to figure it out and write it. i'm just getting warmd up. i got a lot more to go. i'm like in 1985 right now.
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>> but for now, torres puts his book aside. to help out his cellmate, ryan abbey. >> basically what you want to tell them is that you need help. >> yeah. >> you got a problem. we both know that. >> what you told me, i read the police reports. >> abbey was convinced his latest arrest would send him to prison, but the judge has allowed him the option of entering an alcohol treatment program. now he just has to be accepted by one. >> 38 years old, male, alcoholic, like to be accepted to your program. if i could be accepted to your program, the judge recently aloued me to go to rehabilitation. >> don't write it in ancient scriptures. that's what it looks like. this writing is a little -- >> it's a little messy. >> grateful for a second chance. >> looks like you're using
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ancient scripture. >> to change my life, to get into the steps of alcoholism. >> while things are looking up for abbey, marc gonzalez has had a big setback. one likely to disappoint his mother. >> don't get in any toubl, don't to anything bad. shortly after his mother's return to minnesota, gonzalez was given a new job. he was moved from laundry detail to helping the jail's intake unit. >> gonzalez was a trusty worker. when an inmate gets booked in, gonzalez would take his property and put it in different carts and bins. so he had access to inmate property and he stole a cellphone and transported it back to his dorm. gonzalez says one of his co-workers stole the phone. >> it was in a big thing of clothes and i put it in the bag along with other stuff that needed to bring back. so i got in trouble for bringing it back. >> either way, inmates of
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prohibitted having cellphones because they're considered a serious security threat. >> to have access to a phone, at pretty much any time, where you can contact someone on the street to authorize a hit, or you can contact someone on the street to try to facilitate bringing drugs into the system, it becomes a major issue, especially if it gets in the hands of those that are more sophisticated. >> the violation not only cost gonzalez his job, but his place in the workers barracks, probably the most desirable housing unit in the entire jail system. he's been transferred three miles away to the county central jail facility. >> he was moved out of the trustee barracks and into a more secured dorm at the main jail. >> this place sucks. being locked up behind these bars say whole new lifestyle. hearing the door open and the clink of the keys and the slamming. it's brighter here. it's musty in here. it's a lot worse.
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people come and go. it's easy to catch stuff. it's dirty. it's a little bit more dangerous in here because people are -- i was locked up, it was drinking and driving that type of stuff. in here, people can snap easily. there's a lot of tempers and fights over small stuff. like soap and the tv. that's why i just stay on my rack and do my time, keep my head down for real this time. not get caught up in any trouble. >> coming up, a tearful promise from a mother, to put her marine son before drugs. >> i don't want to miss any more time with you. i want you to come home next time and i want to be home.
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paula rivas gets rec time at the orange county jail in california, she usually spends it alone, punching a basketball. >> i'm a fighter. i use my fists, you know. i used to go to the boxing gym out there. you have to be solid as a rock in here, you know. nobody wants to see nobody cry in here. it's the first thing we tell them, don't cry. don't shed a tear. man up. >> face the glass. hands. >> it's been very hard for me to man up. >> rivas has spent most of the last ten years locked up on various drug-related charges. this time it's different. while she's here, her son lorenzo has been serving as a marine in afghanistan. >> i don't want him to be hurt or injured in any way, you know. he's seen a lot. i know he has. he's lost a few friends. i know that.
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>> today, lorenzo is not only safe but home from his deployment. he has just arrived with his grandmother for a visit. >> i haven't seen her in about nine months. to see my mom in jail, it's really hard on me. seems like she's always gone when i need her the most. and me being over there in afghanistan and my mom being here, it's one of the worst feelings ever. she hasn't always been there for me. it's a void in my life. i did get one letter from her, and i was really surprised. i must have read it 10, 15 times. like she told me she was proud of me. my whole life, i always tried to make her proud. i always tried my best in sports, looking my best, dressing nice. i joined the marine corps for her, just trying to get her to be proud of me once. me thinking she would stay out of trouble if she was proud of her son, you know, and not go back to jail so many times. just for me once. seems that she always goes back to her life. she chooses her life over me. that's always been the hardest
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part. >> i love you, baby. i love you so much. >> i love you, too, mom. >> sit down. how are you? >> i'm good. how are you? >> better that i see you. i worry about you. i'm sorry i'm not there. >> it's okay. >> when are you going overseas again? >> i don't know yet. >> you don't know? >> huh-uh. >> i see on the news all the time things that are happening over there, and you see the newspapers and stuff. and i worry about you so much. >> i'm fine. >> i'm almost out of here, and i'm going to go to a program, a tough one.
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which i need structure. >> uh-huh. >> i'll be home after that. after the program, you know. i'll get a job. i'll go to sober living and get a job and do what i have to do to do things right, stop messing around. >> yeah. >> i'm tired of this life. i'm tired. >> i'm tired of it, too. >> i know you are. i know you're tired of it. this is it. i don't want to miss any more time with you. i want you to come home next time, and i want to be home. i promise you, i'm not going to break it this time. you're the best thing i've ever done. you are. you didn't follow in my footsteps which is good. i'm proud of you. so proud. i'm so proud that you're my son. >> i miss you, mom. >> i miss you, too. >> i miss you. >> i miss -- i want to hug you. and i want to hold you and tell
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you that it's going to be all right, you know. that i'm going to be okay. i don't want to miss any more of your life, son. i just want you to know this is going to be the last time you see me in this place. i've got the best of a son to go home to, i know. i'm so grateful. i feel like a load has been lifted off my chest, seeing him okay. >> i feel a lot better now, seeing my mom. it made me feel great that she told me she was proud of me. it just makes me feel like accomplished. she tells me she feels proud of me. i can never hear it enough from her. she upon says -- wants to prove to me, make me believe that will be the last time coming to see her. she promised she'll be a mother to me. >> my son needs to be my number-one priority right now. not me. my priority was always me, selfish. he's my priority from now on. i needed to tell him that, you know?
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i'm not just going to tell him, i'm going to do it. i'm going to show him. this is the beginning of a new life. a better life for me and him. >> hey! ♪ no no no no ♪ i'm an emcee murderer ♪ going down tonight i ain't never heard of ya ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm the most hated but never faded ♪ >> things are looking up for mark gonzalez, as well. >> this here spades, this is a jail game. like jail, like anybody who knows how to play spades has been to jail or just an old man. >> i was going to say, my mom taught me. she's never been to jail. >> my mom taught me, too. mom and pops. >> though he is now in a more restricted housing unit with inmates accused of more serious
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crimes, he's made some new friends. >> like me, i'm j-dizzle. this is oos-dizel. that's my body guard right there. that's my body guard right there. >> that's whacky chan. whacky chan. ♪ [ beat boxing ] >> damn man, [ bleep ]. ♪ it feels like i can't afford it ♪ ♪ got my man dancing in the background ♪ ♪ we get around in your town ♪ i'm from atlantis how we gets down ♪ [ laughter ] >> while gonzalez has made the most of his time at the central jail, few things in jail last forever. a couple of days later, he was transferred back to the theo lacy jail. he's been assigned to a cell in one of the mods, the very place he wanted to avoid.
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>> i would probably never be in the mods. the mods is way inside, like no sunlight, two-man cell. you're in a cell. >> really? >> like they lock the door on you. >> so that's where you see, i guess, the real serious -- see, that's somewhat disturbing. >> i don't know why they brought me over here. i liked it better over there. >> does your mom know you moved over here? >> yeah, i talked to her. she got right on the phone with my lawyer. i talked to her again and she said there's nothing they can really do. >> on the bright side, gonzalez says his cellmate is hoping him -- helping him adjust to the change. >> he's a good guy. right away we connected. which is really good, especially if you're doing time together. i want to learn, and he's getting me more into god and jesus. got me a bible and we do bible study every day. >> have you accepted jesus christ as your lord and personal savior? >> yep. when i first started coming here, i decided to let him fully in my life.
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and got rid of all my sins and blessed him for everything that i've done and what i have to become. >> that's the first part, you accept it. now it's your time to grow. let him work through you and change you to become the person that he wants you to be. coming up -- marc gonzalez makes a surprising discovery about his new cellmate. >> when i first found out, it kind of took me offguard. i was like, whoa, okay. >> and a judge decides if paula rivas can leave jail. it's just too hard." then there was a moment. when i decided to find a way to keep going. go for olympic gold and go to college too. [ male announcer ] every day we help students earn their bachelor's or master's degree for tomorrow's careers. this is your moment. let nothing stand in your way. devry university, proud to support the education of our u.s. olympic team.
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♪ jimmy torres is no stranger to the orange county jail, but even though he claims to be one of the nation's most prolific bank robbers, he says this time he's not guilty. and a judge has decided torres will get a second chance to prove his innocence. he's been granted a retrial of his most recent bank robbery conviction.
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>> it's going to be a new trial now, and everything's going to come out. the truth is going to come out. >> torres' cellmate ryan abbey also got good news at a court hearing. he was accepted into a rehab program and a few weeks into it has written to torres about life outside the orange county jail. >> i received two letters from ryan since he's been gone. he goes, hey, jimmy, what's up, buddy? did some research on the "mummy bandit" thing for me. he says there's "mummy bandits" all over the place, like a mummy nation. he mentions that sobriety is great. people are good at the house. he says he's going to help me with this project we have going on. we're going to make t-shirts, free the mummy bandit. itwasntme.com is going to be the name of the web site. and he also says, keep positive. you'll win your case. let me know when your next court date is.
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>> marc gonzalez is adjusting not only to a new cellmate but a new cell where he's confined most of the day. he even eats meals in a cell. it's not that he's paranoid about the food, but he is cautious. >> i'm washing my meal. -- my meat. this is what i call boo-boo meat. the nastiest smelliest meat ever. he likes it, but i think it's nasty so i wash it off, you know. like a little rinse dry i got going, you know. that's just me. if i'm going to eat this meat, i'm going to try to eat it right, you know. i just -- that's just me. that's just me. some people like to eat it, but i see a lot of people washing their meat off. it's just -- the water turns -- it turns all musty brown. >> stupid. >> gonzalez has been getting along with his new cellmate, alvin lovely. then he learned that lovely was in jail awaiting trial on a murder charge. >> when i first found out about his charges, it took me his charges, it took me off
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guard. i was like, whoa, okay. i started thinking of new ways, how to play it off. i've got to be calm around this person. i shouldn't be talking much about this or this. i don't want to set off certain triggers that could make him mad. i'm with somebody getting charged with murder. i'm not calling him a murderer, but he's been there, done that. i don't want to know. try to keep that from my mom, too. being with someone who's for murder. that helps her a lot. you know, doesn't know, doesn't hurt in this situation. >> while gonzalez's mother might be concerned if she knew about her son's living situation, she can take comfort in knowing that the orange county jail might have realigned his priorities. >> in my mug shot picture, i stuck my tongue out. it was a joke to me, totally. spending 11 months. i learned how to become a man physically, mentally. then to have to go to rehab right after i get out, that's a big eye opener for me. i'll never come back. i experienced all the things my
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family had to go through, all the money that's been spent. i never want to do this ever again. i got my little calendar on the wall. it says 22 pancakes left. every saturday we get pancakes. i have 22 left. i mark it down every time. today is the 22nd. 22 pancakes left. >> paula rivas is hoping she'll never eat another pancake at the orange county jail either. she's headed to court and hopes that a new plea bargain will soon set her free. >> my public defender told me that everything is okay. but i could always go to court and maybe them not give me all the credit because i have two open cases. and one's supposed to run concurrent with the other. but there's always that chance that it might not. i've seen it many times from girls, they're positive that they're going to go in and get their credit time. then they come back devastated because their time didn't run concurrent fully. if that happens, basically
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i'll -- i'll end up going upstate for like 10 months. there's always that slim chance. >> all right, defendant's ready for sentencing, right? >> that's correct. >> you are sentenced to state prison for a period of three years. you have a credit of 550 actual, 550 good time, work time. the total of 1,100. you've done your time. you're not going to be transported to state prison. you have credit for time served. it's been a long time coming. you know that. and i have a sense you're going to do it well. the problem is, you have no choice, you have to do it well. with your history, your priors, if you don't do well, you're going to wind up back in prison again. you have a son in the marine corps, pretty proud, huh? point is, they can't do it for you -- i know you're motivated. this, believe it or not, is actually the easy part. the hard part is tonight when
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you get out and you've been in custody for so long. our court wishes you well. good luck. >> thank you, sir. >> the judge's ruling is good news for rivas. he's decided that due to the time she's already served in orange county, she can transfer to a drug rehabilitation program rather than prison. >> i remember when it wasn't this way, right? >> yep. with all my priors, i've always went upstate. so there's something different for me, something new. and for me, it's the last time i'm going to come here. i'm out of here, bunky. yes, ma'am. yes, ma'am. >> yes. [ applause ] >> thank you. good-bye. i'm out. as soon as i touched down downstairs, i'll call the program, do what i have to do for myself and my family. my son.
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