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a convicted murderer awaits his sentence. >> life in here is kind of like purgatory. you're in the in-between. >> another inmate turns up with a pair of black eyes. >> said [ bleep ] you, got up off the desk, and started laying into him.
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>> and the one place in the entire jail where drama is seldom in short supply. >> you know me. you know me, girl! >> all homosexual inmates are in required to be classified as protective custody. it's not option. >> i don't understand women. they're so complicated. man! orange county, california, is traditionally been known for its conservative values, spectacular coastlines, and tourist attractions.
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reality television has also contributed to the county's image. but it's far more complex than any of that. >> well it's probably not the real housewives of orange county. >> few people know that better than orange county sheriff sandra hutchins. among other things, she runs orange county's other gated community. the orange county jail. >> it's dynamic. every day is a bit different. and so you constantly have to be re-evaluating that and the folks work in the housing areas are very astute at identifying problems early on and that's the key. you're dealing with a population that doesn't want to be there, they're not necessarily there with people they like, they're probably facing some very challenging times in their lives. >> the greatest challenge for many inmates in the orange county jail is uncertainty. unlike prison inmates, who have already been convicted and sentenced for crimes they've
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committed, most jail inmates stand charged with crimes and are still working their cases through the court system. the process can take years. so some try to make their jail cells home. >> this is the living room right here. where we keep the books and the magazines and trash. this is the kitchen. this is where we eat and everything. this is the bathroom the washing machine/shower. birdbath. >> with such close quarters deputies constantly monitor inmates for signs of conflict. >> once you come inside things are much more intense, because you're not out on the streets. you can't be 20 miles from someone who may like you or may not like you. you can be one or two sectors or you can be next-door neighbors. there's nowhere to run. you're in jail. we need to know today who gets along with who today. knowing as much as we can helps the safety of the jail. and that's our ultimate goal.
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>> that attention to detail has worked out well for weston krueger and brandon scotto. they've spent the last eight months together as cellies in the theo lacy jail and their conflicts rarely go beyond cars. >> that's not trump. club is trump. club is trump. see that you've got to watch. >> krueger has seemingly adjusted to a peaceful life in jail, but his life on the outside was dedicated to fighting. he made his name as a mixed martial arts cage fighter. >> it just came natural. being a big guy, left-handed, with a natural double-jointed right shoulder i just had a right cross that put down everybody, when i connected with the right spot on the chin. i used to love to fight. >> i got those basically when i
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was bare-knuckle boxing and fighting in reno. when you fight, sometimes you would take six weeks to heal. but "harm" and "heal," it makes a lot of sense now, too, because i've done a lot of harm out there and now i'm here to heal. >> a few weeks earlier kruger was convicted of murdering the owner of a liquor store. according to witnesses, kruger shoved the man so fiercely that he flew through the air before cracking his head on the ground resulting in a 5-inch crack in his skull and ultimately his death. >> i tried not to hurt the guy. unfortunately,, he died. i was trying my hardest not to hurt the guy, i didn't strike him or anything like that. >> store surveillance footage captured only the beginning of the incident. >> what happened was, i was drinking with my homeboys and went down next-door to the liquor store and i bought some cigarettes and i decided to steal a pornographic magazine you know to take back to the bar with my friends. the liquor store owner saw me
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take it so he accused me of it you know, and we basically -- i said i didn't do it you know. >> kruger lifts his shirt to convince the store owner he's not hiding the magazine. he then walks out of the store and soon after the owner follows. >> we got outside the store. i turned around took the magazine and threw it back to him. i was like , here's your magazine, and i kept running and he kept chasing me and i turned around and pushed him and he never got back up. he hit his head and died two days later. >> spread your feet more. >> under california law, even an accidental death during the commission of a felony is considered murder. kruger's jury took less than a day to find him guilty. >> i'm responsible for a man's death. i know i do have some time. i don't think it should be the rest of my life you know? and -- but that's not really for me to decide either you know? >> kruger faces as much as 25
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years to life. until his sentencing hearing, he will remain at the oc jail. >> life in here is kind of like purgatory. you're in the in-between. until you know what your future is about, you're stuck. you know you have no idea what's going to happen. so i'm not going to be going to camp snoopy or anything like that. i'm going to prison you know? so i'm just trying to get ready for that you know? get in shape. >> kruger's preparation for prison includes an unusual workout routine. >> have you ever had a cellie actually trust you like that before? >> no. no. >> it's pretty exhilarating, huh? >> have you ever been an exercise tool? >> it's like riding a bull. >> brandon scotto helps kruger prepare for prison in more ways than just being added weight for his workouts. he's been to prison before and has knowledge to share. >> pretty much my whole life i've been in. my total time i've been out is
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probably not even a year. >> i was out three months before i got picked up ons sometime scotto was found in a stolen truck with a bag of burglary tools. >> i was coming down off of meth, so i fell asleep in the vehicle, and i guess the guy who owned the vehicle passed by and he called the cops and saying my truck's right here, and came up and pulled me out. >> as a member of a white supremacist group, he says he knows firsthand about prison violence. >> my next prison trip's probably going to be a little bit more violent, because there are going to be things i need to do and if i don't, there are going to be consequences. soy so i need to jump when i need to jump. i'm not going to let anything slide that needs to be taken curry of. >> even though kruger isn't affiliated with any racial gangs, he believes that going to
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prison might make it necessary for him to join one. >> to stay alive and to survive, i've got to do what i've got to do. you can't be on your own. you can't fly your own white flag, it just doesn't work that way. besides being so big and everything like that but i'm going to be a big flag myself and that's kind of scary, you know? >> but for now, the orange county jail provides a safe haven until the men leave for prison. >> but yeah we've been in here for eight months now, me and him. not one fight yet. >> on the other side of theo lacy, in one of the jail's protected housing units, things are considerably less harmonious harmonious. i bought the car because i could eliminate gas from my budget. i don't spend money on gasoline. it's been 4,000 miles since my last trip to the gas station. it's pretty great.
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full of seemingly endless days long nights and the constant fight against boredom. but in one of the orange county jail's protective iveive housing units, known as mod-q, things are much more lively. >> that's my [ bleep ] right there. >> that's my homegirl. >> that's my [ bleep ]. >> that's my homegirl right there. >> that's my [ bleep ]. >> that's my -- bitch. come here and show your [ bleep ]. >> mod-q houses a variety of protective custody units, including a high percentage of homosexuals. >> all homosexual inmates are required to be classified as protective custody. it's not optional. they will have to be protective custody inmate in a protective custody housing location. it's for their own safety because they'll be a potential victim due to the fact that they're homosexual. >> some of the inmates in this mod are not just homosexual but choose to live as women. a few have begun the process of surgically transforming their
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bodies. >> when you enter the orange county jail system if you are in the process of having a sex change, let's say, if you still have your male genital parts, you are considered a male, and you will be housed there, whether or not you have breasts or, you know, it's what's below the belt that counts. >> although there are many big personalities in mod-q, one inmate has actually earned the nickname drama. that inmate is marcus cash. >> marcus is probably our most flamboyant inmate. every time he comes out of the cell it's almost a show the way he walks, the way he talks to you. >> ready for my close-up. he's very flamboyant, and exaggerates his movement and his speech quite a bit. so that draws a lot of attention to him. >> well i like to dance on the dinner table out there, like when i'm not supposed to. i scream a lot. i'm always like, yelling out my doors.
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>> yeah so i guess that would make me drama. they're always like writing me up, always coming on my speaker, what are you doing, cash? so, i guess, drama. >> don't be a narco. you know bitch! you know me girl! >> at 21 years old, cash is on his eighth trip through the oc jail. this time after being caught with a batch of stolen credit cards. >> well i was really drunk one night and me and my friend we just decided, you know like let's go shopping and we got a bunch of credit cards and we went to stores and we bought -- um we tried to buy $700 worth of gift cards, you know and that didn't fly, you know? 2:00 in the morning, drunk, like, what are you kids doing in here? so, yeah. >> during his latest stay in jail cash has met someone special. the object of his affection is rocky bret who's currently serving a year sentence for drug
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possession and dealing. he goes by the nickname casper. >> his name is casper oop. i'm going to tattoo casper the ghost right here. like, really i'm going to get a tattoo. to about two weeks' of correspondence, even though she lives about two cells down from me, this is about two weeks worth of accumulated material here. >> i love him. >> it's always -- they're always nice to get mail in here, even though we don't always get mail from the outside. sometimes some of the mail we get comes from somebody we care about. >> exactly. >> i really love him. i know. it's horrible. but it's going to be -- i don't know, because i'm scared of love, you know? and jail love, jail love this is -- you know what i'm saying? you don't want to meet somebody -- you know you want to meet someone on good terms. i mean we're here in jail we're criminals, you know. >> i love you, baby. >> do you guys get to touch at all? >> yeah, sometimes we do.
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>> when she comes over here she puts her hand underneath the door and we hold like this. but sometimes when we get lucky, she'll come out here -- >> they open the door sometimes for us. >> they'll open the door when she's in day room or she's in day room i'll walk outside and we'll get a little kiss and a hug in. >> yeah, it's cool. i wish it was more you know but i'm in jail. i didn't come to jail to fall in love, but i did fall in love you know? it sucks. >> in the mod-q, the relationships are absolutely different there from other mods because in other mods, you've got this high-intensity ultratype-a gang politicking atmosphere going on and in a mod like mod-q, there's a lot more like love triangles going on. it's big-time drama mod. >> cash and casper's romance began when they were cell mates, but that led to a case of cabin fever. >> we got into fights constantly, and the deputies in here, they just had enough of it. we threw coffee in a cell we
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threw milk cartons at each other. we were throwing around soups at each other. it just escalated out of control. >> cash and casper are now in separate cells, and are to take their two hours of communal day room at different times. but that hasn't made the relationship any less volatile. >> hi -- >> why are you mad at me? >> i was observing cash because i knew that he would be down there trying to be a showoff and try to be a drama person so i observed him, and i watched him hugging several other inmates down there. so he knows the rules, he's not supposed to do that thatand he knows the consequence is me not talking to him for the rest of the day. >> but as casper knows, ignoring cash is usually easier said than done. >> casper, come here. i love you, sweetie. casper, come here!
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why are you crazy? because i wanted to [ bleep ] talk and give him a hug! get over here! casper are you serious? come here please baby. >> why do we have to go through this every time? >> don't be mad at me. >> we do through this every time! >> don't be mad at me. >> i just told you what was up you know? and you want to go there and hug and schmooze on whoever you want or feel like it. >> okay, so i [ bleep ] up and i'm sorry, can we just get over it? >> every time. can we get over it? can we get over it? why don't you go get those rules that i wrote you? >> okay, i'm sorry! >> no giving sharing, trading, or selling of any personal items, including receiving of any things other than inmate gives to you, and yes, including
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cellies. no holding, hugging, touching kissing, playing, like you are about to engage in any activities, such as anything listed above shall result in severe consequences. >> exactly! >> well i didn't read it all. >> you didn't read it all? >> no i only got to the distinction and i stopped. >> what's it stay on the bottom? >> you're not going to talk to me? >> the harshest consequences. >> you always complain about the little things. >> it's the little things that count, if you don't realize that. >> okay, i understand that and i'm sorry. >> ugh! >> okay? >> i guess. >> i love you. >> i don't understand women! they're so complicated! man! coming up two orange county inmates reach their boiling points. >> it was just a horrible fight. did you know honey nut cheerios is america's favorite cereal? oh you're good! hey, did you know that honey nut cheerios is... oh you too! ooh, hey america's favorite cereal is...
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at the three owe lacy facility in southern
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california's orange county jail cell mates weston kruger and brandyn scotto not only live together in a small cell they even take their daily one-hour allocation of rec time together but scotto's taking rec a little easier due to some swelling around the eyes. >> ewe look different from the last time i saw you. >> got in a little altercation. >> looks like more than a little one. that had to have hurt. >> yeah, a big bully. >> a big bully came after you? >> yeah. >> big bully swinging? >> yeah. >> does the other guy look the same as you? >> no. >> better or worse? >> better. >> like most inmates who get into fights scotto won't say who blackened his eyes. >> just a little thing i'd rather not speak on it. just, you know it's in the past it's over. so. >> a few hours later, scotto was given orders to pack up his possessions and move to a new cell. >> my partner confronted the
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inmate with the injuries and during his interview, he was able to identify that his cell mate was the perpetrator of that assault. >> he actually admitted that he and his cell mate westonhad gotten in the fight. he told us the fight was over a disrespect issue. he was trying to watch television from his cell which is a challenge, because you can't always hear the tv and his roommate was in the rear of the cell shouting through the vents to someone else a common way that inmates communicate. >> he's a pretty loud dude. and i told him once before keep it down. i told him, hey, bro, i'm quiet when you watch tv. and that's when he said [ bleep ] you, and i got up and started laying into him. the minute he did that he drew the line. it doesn't matter how big he is how small he is i needed to draw that and get that off of my chest to let him know this is what's up dude. and it's sad. you know, we went off like 20
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30 seconds, and then we stopped, shook hands. there ain't no problems no more. from that point on he was quiet which i was watching tv. >> the two men are moved to holding cells until authorities can find new housing assignments for them. >> we'll bring each of them down and talk to them. if it's necessary, we'll place separation orders so neither one sees the other again. there's a certain boiling point with inmates where if you live with someone for a certain amount of time in very close proximity, tensions can rise and someone as small as someone not being quiet at the right time can lead to something like this. >> over in mod-q, markus cash also known as drama, has reached a boiling point. >> you're lucking these doors don't [ bleep ], whore. >> he's gotten into a dispute with his boyfriend's cell mate. >> you're a [ bleep ] you.
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>> the fight landed cash in isolation isolation, where he's locked down 23 hours a day. >> i think cash got a little jealous and he thought that i was screwing around with my new cellie, which is totally not true. and one thing escalated to another. cash through an orange in here my old cellie walked out, and words were exchanged and cash threw the first punch and my cellie threw the next punch. after that the next thing, food trays were thrown everywhere and it just lasted about five minutes on the tier and it was a horrible fight. >> i don't like to fight, but, you know, i don't like to talk [ bleep ], but if people are going to start something, i will take it to that level, you know? without a doubt. >> where'd you learn how to fight? >> i don't know? jail? jail. >> he'll be there for ten days and maybe he'll realize what he did wrong and now we'll be separated and we won't be able to talk to each other, we'll only be able to correspond by mail. >> well i'm going to go finish my dinner. i love you, baby and i'll see
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you soon love always. ohh! i miss my baby. like he's all i think about in here. yeah it sucks. >> why heart? >> i don't want to be self-centered anymore. i'm really self-centered. it's all about me and my drama and i put my boyfriend through a lot, because he's always in the mix of my drama, and he always has to like you know, take my side. >> with him, it's a constant problem, because he's young, he's energetic and he lix attention. so those are the biggest worries that i have to face day to day with him. all i can hope for is that cash learns his lesson when he comes back out and realizes that this time apart, it hurts kind of both of us. >> in the meantime cash sees at least one other benefit to isolation. the jump suits. >> the red's really hot. i love red! it's like, red, and i love red. two men are locked in a cell
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and somebody has injuries, there's obviously been a fight. >> jail officials decide what to do with kruger and scotto and markus cash returns to mod-q. >> oh, i'm so excited. my husband's next door. i'm really excited. i'm really excited. down here, folks measure commitment by what's getting done. the twenty billion dollars bp committed has helped fund economic and environmental recovery. long-term, bp's made a five hundred million dollar commitment to support scientists studying the environment. and the gulf is open for business - the beaches are beautiful, the seafood is delicious.
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for many inmates, life at the orange county jail in southern california is one long wait for their cases to be decided in court. privileges are few and inmates are only allowed minimal possessions. but with time on their hands, they often find creative solutions to everyday problems. jared petrovich has been here for five years now, on a murder charge to which he has pled not guilty. >> what is it? >> a sewing needle to sew your clothes with with or pants. you just file it down. it's not quick. it takes -- you've got to have patience. because you have to make the string. i'll just make a quick one, real quick. you've got your string now.
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you've got your string now, your needle. it's really easy. you don't have to take your -- you know just get a quick stitch going, you know? here's my -- i made this beanie but i took the arms off my shirt. but it's kind of big, so you've got to fold it up. >> while petrovich is still awaiting the start of his murder trial, weston kruger has already been convicted of murdering the owner of a liquor store after being caught shoplifting. >> this is the beginning, this is still just the beginning. >> kruger is awaiting sentencing. he faces up to 25 years to life. >> it's almost torture. like chinese water torture or something like that. like, until you know what's
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going to happen you really just you can't move forward with your life. so you're basically just stuck in this just this nothing, you know? >> but now he has another problem. >> hi kruger. come on out. stand on the yellow line. go ahead and walk down to my partner. you're going to make a right-hand turn and go to number one. >> all right. >> orange county jail authorities want to question him about allegedly assaulting his cell mate brandyn scotto. >> they told me to come down here and they rolled my cellie up so i don't know what's going on. so now i'm down here. so i don't know. i'm not really sure. >> why did they roll your cellie up? >> i'm not really sure. i'm assuming because he got attacked or whatever, but i have no idea. >> since altercations like this rarely result in the filing of new criminal charges, it will be up to deputy grover to determine what happened and how to prevent further problems. >> so what was happening up in your mod? >> what do you mean? >> when we came up and talked the to you, something had happened. something was going on.
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what had happened? >> the only thing i can think of is my bunky had a couple of black united stateseyes. >> okay, tell me about that. >> i can't really talk about it. >> well we kind of talked about it a little bit before this and we had a little bit of an idea. do you want to elaborate on that at all. not at all? okay. fair enough. at some point, you're probably going to be served with another jail violation. it's going to be for fighting in jail. >> oh, wow. >> obviously, you and your cellie had an altercation at some point. nobody's deemed the aggressor yet, nobody's deemed the victim yet. two men are locked in a cell and somebody has injuries there's obviously ban fight. so it's not the end of the world for you. >> yeah i understand. >> so you'll get your notice of violation. sergeant will call you out, conduct a hearing, hear your side of the story. if you're found guilty obviously, he'll issue a punishment. >> okay. >> during our investigation weston kruger still, to this day, denies that there was a
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fight or any involvement in a fight with his cell mate, brandyn scotto. >> if kruger is sanctioned for fighting his punishment will most likely be five to ten days in isolation. but without a clear determination of who started the fire, jail officials could also decide to sanction brandyn scotto. and because he has a past record of violence when he was in prison, he could be transferred to a higher security housing unit. >> scotto, come on in. >> a few formalties before we get started. what's the last state prison you were in? >> fulsome state. >> what level? >> level three. >> did you get any write-ups there? >> a lot. >> what'd you get there? >> riots. >> at fulsome? >> yes. i was at a riot at fulsome. it kicked off with the blacks and they had stingers on the yard. so basically i knew ahead of time it was going to happen so i fill mid tumbler up with baby
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oil, when it popped up i went to the stingers heated up the baby oil, slung them on the blacks. faces peeled off. it was all pink underneath. it burned them. >> what else? >> there were a lot of other mutual comments. >> where at? >> at waskom. when you say a lot of what are you thinking two, three? >> six to seven. >> what else? >> that's about it. >> about it? okay. basically, what's going to happen now is we'll flex you up to a level two inmate. you'll probably be down here until i can get you a house. you may need to spend the night here. >> okay. >> you may go to theo lacy it's at this point, wherever the room's going to be. >> okay. >> okay? >> thank you. >> fair enough. >> good luck to you. >> thank you. >> while scotto will be moved to a higher security level, markus cash after spending ten days in
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isolation for fighting with his boyfriend's cell mate has just been moved back to mod-q. >> i just got back like seriously two, three hours ago. so everybody's banging on their doors, screaming my name. i'm a star here. yeah i'm crazy. >> not only is cash grateful to be out of isolation, but he's especially happy of the location of his new cell. >> oh, my god, i'm so excited, my husband's next door. i'm, like, really excited. really excited. what are you doing -- >> hey, you can hear me in the speaker? you're the one for me. >> i know baby you're the one for me. you're my one and only. >> yeah. >> at first i thought they were going to keep us separated, but she came back and they put her in the same day room group as me and everything so that's something to look forward to. maybe we can spend some more time together and things will work out. >> while jail regulations prohibit intimate contact among inmates, cash and casper say
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they find ways to steal moments together. >> well i'm not going to complicate myself in any jailhouse misconduct or anything, be but i'm just saying what could be done if you were an inmate in here. if you were to mess around with another inmate you could just go take a shower with an inmate. >> the shower would be the best way. the shower. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve.
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of 5,000 male and female inmates, keeping everyone safe is no simple task. but in one particular housing unit, mod-q, don't deal so much with sudden outbreaks of violence, as much as they do sudden outbreaks of passion. >> i always got to be right next to my man, when he plays. >> who? >> my man. >> your man? >> you and everybody else's man. >> oh, my god! >> i've been working out. >> no! >> if they were in general population they definitely would have some drama, and you know, have a lot of attention, because of the way their mannerisms are. >> we need to put some chopsticks in her hair like this she'd be like a geisha. >> i'm happy. don't you like it here? >> obviously, there are some relationships going on maybe from the streets that continue on in here. they might be in different cells
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and they'll just continue to talk to each other through the cells. sexual relationships are not too prevalent, but any type of physical contact that does occur, it is a violation of rules. we don't know what's going on there. it could be an assault taking place, it could be consensual and we'd have to respond, so it's just not allowed. >> the latest relationship on the mod is between markus cash who goes by the nicknames drama, and fendi, and rocky brett, or commonly known as casper. >> we keep to ourselves, we just walk around down there. the worst trouble we get into it is like touching each other. like holding hands or kissing each other. other than that we keep it cool. we try not to piss the deputies off too much because the deputies have their boundaries and we have ours. because if we overstep our boundaries, we get in trouble and stuff. >> but the two inmates recently put those boundaries to a test. >> yeah yeah, in the shower. it was awesome.
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>> well what i have in my hand right now is a minor jail violation. there's a staff copy and an inmate copy and this particular inmate committed a minor jail room violation. he jumped in the shower with another inmate during the day room, which is a big no-no. you're not authorized to enter a shower while it's already occupied by another inmate, because in another mod, that can really get you hurt real bad. he's going to get five days loss of day room and if he does it again, he's probably going to get a major. and the inmate he jumped in the shower, they were in the same day room group, and now they're going to be separated to separate groups to prevent that from happening again. >> inmate cash you're being written up for a jail room violation, a minor, because earlier you got in the shower with the other inmate. here, that's a big no-no. unauthorized movement was the violation. >> oh, my god! >> and you do have the right to appeal any discipline. >> i don't want to sign --
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>> you don't want to sign either? do you want to call any witnesses? >> yeah, i want to call witnesses. cell six and cell eight. >> cell six and eight? >> mccullan and i don't know the other one's name. >> okay i'll find out who it is. basically, you're going to refuse to sign but i'm going to give you your copy all right? then you're given five days loss of day room and i'll let the sergeant know you want to appeal this, all right? >> all right. >> okay here you go. >> before any sanctions are handed down inmates have the right to have their witnesses questioned about the alleged violation. >> cash is calling you as a witness. i need to get a statement from you, all right. >> all right. >> based on his earlier jail room violation. i'm just opening this hatch so we can hear each other better. >> all right. >> what do you have to say about what happened earlier. it's not a criminal charge just
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a minor jail room violation. getting five days loss of day room. >> what'd he do? >> got in the shower with another inmate. >> oh, um, i think he didn't know he was in there, that somebody was in there. >> oh, you sure? >> yes. >> that's your statement? >> yeah. >> yeah he didn't know nobody else was in there. >> okay thanks. >> sure. >> i'm going to call one of you guys as a witness for what happened earlier. >> oh, yeah i'm the witness! >> you the witness? do you want to tell me what happened earlier. >> they got in the shower together, you know doing their thing, you know? >> that was it. they just got in the shower together? all right. good enough for me. >> i heard this man. >> since cash's witnesses perhaps unknowingly confirmed the room violation, cash not only lost his appeal but the five days of dayroom privileges.
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officials also decided it would be best to separate him and his boyfriend, casper. >> all right, go ahead and close your door behind you. >> this is crazy. >> go ahead and open the door all the way. >> casper was moved down to the first floor and in with a cellie who he immediately recognized. >> you guys better get along. >> can i get a grievance form? >> sure we'll bring one to you. yes. >> all right. >> what's going on? >> i told them that i'm not getting along -- i don't get along with this inmate. >> why? >> well we've had problems from the street originating from the streets. we don't get along. i told the cops right now, and
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brett, aka casper, has been moved to a new cell. his new cell mate asked that we not use his real name, but did permit us to use his nickname, big daddy. casper claims that he and big daddy have a past history that could lead to violence. >> we've had problems from the street. we're from the streets. we don't get along. >> the jail takes inmate claims of potential violence seriously. and in this case, there is an easy solution. >> we're going to -- you can't be in the group upstairs. you can't be cell mates with him. there is an empty cell upstairs, cell four, he's going to cell four now. >> he's going to cell four. >> he's going to cell four. you'll have your own cell all by yourself. you cool with that? right now, what i want you to do, you're going to come out and you're going to sit in the day room, all right? >> all right. >> you're going to chill out at the table. >> he wants to talk to you. >> you want to talk to me? all right.
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>> they're going to pull me out here right now anyways. >> back up a little bit. i'm going to open up this door. what's your name again? >> brett. >> go ahead and have a seat at that table. yes, so we're moving this inmate into a cell where he's compatible with a cell mate and he'll have his own cell and we're going to figure out where -- who to move where later on. >> in order to keep casper separated from cash, deputies decide to move big daddy to the upper tier. and big daddy is none too happy about the move. >> he disrupted me, got me bounced around, got me bounced out of my cell while i had my own program going and bounced me up here. it ain't cool. because he want to play shower games with fendi. he knows he's not supposed to be doing that. he know that. >> big daddy told us he's not gay but is in protective custody because of gang ties. he said he's anything but a gay
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basher but said he did have it out for casper. >> he knows i ain't got nothing against homos. but they did the right thing because i was going to beat the [ bleep ] out of him, seriously. i was going to beat his [ bleep ] in the cell. only me and him in there. you close the door, it is just me and you. you could scream, holler all you want to. by the time they get there, it will be too late. real talk. he know what he did on the street. he know what it is me and him. he know he crossed boundaries by coming into my cell. he kind of like violated my privacy in a sense. he running around here with fendi, doing things he ain't got no business doing, disrupting the program in the jail setting, period, you know? and it is really starting to irritate me. if me and him cross paths, i'm going to try my hardest to knock all his teeth out of his mouth. that's how i feel. as long as he stays far away from me, he will go home in one piece. i ain't got nothing against homos.
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it is what it is. but i do got something against casper. >> back downstairs, casper is still agitated and refuses to enter big daddy's former cell. even when he's no longer in it. >> i'm not moving until the sergeant comes in here and talks to me. you're going to drag me out of here and put me in the hole. this is [ bleep ]. >> i'm going to let you pass right now as far as a major or anything, if i write you up on a major, you're going to go to the hole. you don't want to do that. >> i know that. i haven't done anything wrong. >> for now, just go cool off in your cell. we'll get a hold of the sergeant, all right? >> all right. i expect the sergeant to be here tonight. >> all right. >> right now i basically used some verbal judo. i talked one guy into moving upstairs who initially didn't want to move upstairs and i talked him into going into a cell who really didn't want to be in that cell at all. he wants to talk to the sergeant. we'll get a hold of a sergeant. and no one's life is at risk at this point. he's in his cell all by himself.
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so basically he solved the situation for now. >> you know what, in the end, this is all that matters. and he's right upstairs. if they separate me, i'll write him letters. there's no stopping our relationship. when he goes home, i'll call him on the pay phone. you can't stop it. he can be a million miles away, be in the hole. it don't matter. it don't matter. >> there is a much more somber drama in the isolation unit where weston kruger is serving ten days as a sanction for fighting with his former cell mate. but he still denies any involvement. >> it has to happen in a blind spot. it was a cell, a blind spot. he got attacked. but i'm not going to start pointing fingers. that's not my job, you know? >> he's already been convicted of killing a liquor store owner,
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who was trying to stop him from stealing a pornographic magazine. a former mixed martial arts fighter, kruger shoved the man with such force, he cracked his skull on the sidewalk. yesterday, the court handed down kruger's sentence, 25 years to life. >> it definitely sucks, bad. it is crazy. i still don't understand how i can get murder for that, you know? they're making a big deal about how big i am, how small he was and trying to make it seem like it was a murder, instead of manslaughter, which it wasn't, you know? and i don't know, throwing away the key is not answer, really. i don't get that. but there is hope still for me. i just hope i can run into some people that can keep my mind off it for long enough. i hope i'm not stuck in a cell like this for ever. i hope i'm around people that we can all lean on each other in some way, you know?
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