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a mother whose life will be an inspiration to her two little girls. and jonathan blunk, from reno, just 26 years old, but a veteran of three navy tours. whose family and friends will always know that in that theater, he gave his own life to save another. >> the tragic losses of a senseless tragedy. our thoughts and prayers are with the loved ones of those lost in the colorado shooting. that's "the ed show." i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. ezra klein is filling in for rachel maddow tonight. >> good evening and thank you very much. thank you to you at home for staying with us for this hour. rachel has the night off. in colorado today, the suspect in last week's mass shooting in the denver suburb appears in court for the first time. james holmes had what is called a first advisement this morning. he sat with one of his court apointed attorneys. reporters in the courtroom said
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his lawyer shielded him from victims of the shooting and the relatives who had come for the hearing. he is not expected to be charged formally in the case until next week. the trial itself could be as much as a year away. prosecutors say the man stormed into a midnight premiere of the new batman movie last week in the city of aurora. he came in with tear gas and guns and wearing enough protective gear that police almost reportedly mistook him for one of their own. though officers arrived in two minutes, he managed to kill 12 people and wound 58 others. he was armed with a pair of glock handguns, a 12-gauge shotgun, and an ar-15 assault rifle. all appear to have been purchased legally. law enforcement in colorado said he had stock piled bullets before the massacre. he stored up 6,000 rounds buying from ammunition suppliers online. the list inclupdz 3,000 rounds for hand guns, 3,000 for the assault rifle, and 350 shells for the shotgun. just like the guns used in
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friday night's massacres, all of the bullets were also purchased legally. for the victim the family and friends, for aurora and the rest of the country, the shootings were stunning, horrible. to know about it is to be full of grief. to know about it is to wish the friends and family of the victims comfort and healing. it's also to wonder whether we could have done anything, anything at all to stop it or whether there was something more we can do to stop the next madman who wants to do something like it. since the mass shooting in aurora, we have been told over and again we must avoid politicizing what happened. what that means is don't have that conversation. don't talk about gun control. we should be clear. when one of the first things in a particular set of politicians do after a tragedy is warn people not to talk about a certain set of paulsy, that is almost biy definition
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politization. they're laying a kind of political trap for those who would talk about gun control in the aftermath of aurora. the threat is if you talk about gun control, we'll punish you, we'll punish you by accusing you of seeking to profit from ohorror. that is not just a political argument. it is in fact a political strategy, one that favors those who prefer the status quo to reform of the nation's gun control laws. max reed, a writer at gawker had i think the right take about the argument. he wrote, james holmes did not materialize in a movie theater in aurora free of any relationship to law and authority and the structures of power in this country, nor did he exit those relationships and structures by murdering 12 people and injuring several doesn't more. before he entered the theater, he purchased guns whether legally or illegally under a framework of laws and regulations governed and negotiated by politics. in the parking lot outside, he was arrested by a police force
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whose salaries, equipment, and rights are shaped by politics. you cannot politicize a tragedy because a tragedy is already political. when you talk about the tragedy, you're already talking about politics. but for all that, we must be careful when a specific tragedy or event lideads to a broad national conversation. the ing about a horror like aurora, the reason the whole country is talking about it and grieving over it, is that it is unusual. it is rare. and as such, it is dangerous to generalize from it. tonight on "rachel maddow show," we're going to try to stap back a moment. it will be some time before we truly understand what happened in colorado last week, if we ever do, but it is possible to understand broader facts about guns, about gun vileants, and about gun control in the united states of america. and one thing we can say for sure, to begin, is that america is an unusually violent country. this chart comes from keiron healey, a sociologist.
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they show deaths from assault in 23 develops nations not including our own. that line way up there, above all others, that line shows deaths from assault in the u.s. we're an extremely violent country, it's true, but look at this. we're not nearly so violent as we used to be. our assault rate peaked in the late 1970s, and awful events like aurora not withstandings harx been falling continuously ever since. within america, the south is by far the most violent region. it has the most deaths from assault. then comes the wests where the shootings happens followed by the midwest and northeast. thanks again to karen for this chart. also, gun ownership is on the decline. the percentage of american ho e households that say they own a pistol or a shotgun is about half it was. and the most recent numbers from
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gallup which aren't on the graph have show an uptick in gun ownership. we don't kknow if that's a tick blip. this map, which we made with data from the new england journal of medicine compares a number of suicides by gun ownership rates. it's four times as high in states with a lot of firearms. even when you factor in suicide by other means. any means at all, states with a high rate of gunopership still experience twice as many suicides. gun ownership and suicide are in the evidence links. and so are gun ownership and homicide. i don't actually have a graph for this one, but the harvard injury control research center assesses literature and found that more guns tends to mean more murders. this holds true whether you're looking at different countries or states in this country. it remains true after you control things for poverty and urbanization. as for the role of gun control
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laws, economists find in states with reatively strict laws, fewer people die from gun fire. states with relatively looser gun control have a higher rate of death from guns. yet for all that, gun control is not popular. and it is getting even less popular. gallup has been asking people whether they want stricter gun control laws since 1990. the number of people who favor them has fallen by a lot. the number calling for either looser laws on the status quo has nearly tripled. and in recent years has come to be larger than the number calling for stricter gun laws. that is some of what we know about americans and guns and violence. we're not as violent a nation as we once were though we are violent and gun ownership tracks with violence and suicide and loose gun laws which people say they prefer. for all that, we should be clear. there are no easy answers to what happened in aurora. not in why it happened and not in how to stop it.
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james holmes had no criminal record. so it would be difficult to deny him weaponry under any gun control regime at all. he had a number of legal explosives in his home. he could have turned to that method of murder. we must be humble when thinking about what in this particular case could have been done. but we cannot be scared away from thinking about what in the future we might yet do. joining us now is michael nutter, mayor of philadelphia and a member of mayors against illegal guns. mayor nutter, today, announced a new partnership with the department of justice for the reduction of violent crime in philadelphia. mayor nutter, thank you so much for joining me tonight. >> thank you, ezra. >> after the shooting in colorado, you issued a statement that was equal parts condolences and a call for stricter gun safety laws. so did some other mayors like mayor bloomberg. can these two ideas go together? can we have a discussion over gun control and aurora that is not disrespectful to the victims? >> absolutely.
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and again, let me take a moment to just express my deepest condolences to the family members who lost loved ones in that carnage just a few days ago. and those who are injured and still recovering. we wish all of them a speedy recovery and hopefully a healing in aurora. i have talked to the mayor out there, mayor hogan, as well as the nearby mayor, mayor hancock, and anything that we can do from philadelphia or through the u.s. conference of mayors, certainly we extend ourselves and just continue to pray for the people in that city and those who were killed and injured. i think we have to be able to be mature enough to have a legitimate non-hysterical, adult conversation about gun safety and violence prevention. this is not a conversation about taking someone's gun away. i'm a big supporter of the
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second amendment, but as i have said on numerous occasions, i also believe i have a first amendment right not to be shot. those two ideas are not in conflict with each other. with those -- with any right comes a significant amount of responsibility. clearly, there's something wrong with that individual, but beyond that, we need systems in place to red flag, if you will, some of the things we now know in the aftermath that apparently we didn't know just in the last -- wednesday or thursday. 6,000 rounds, the purchase of an assault rifle or weapon, for what reason would any individual, other than law enforcement or military, need such weaponry? body armor, again, those are things that law enforcement and military use. and so i think that this issue, we have seen aurora, the
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shooting of a member of congress, representative giffords, columbine, virginia tech, the list goes on and on and on. just over the last ten to 20 years, we go through these situations, and much is talked about. we need some action. we need reasonable, rational, gun safety regulations. procedures in place. for violence, prevention. you said earlier that you almost can't have a discussion, and it becomes political. no one thought that in the aftermath of 9/11. now, we did a lot of things after 9/11. 11 years ago. we created a whole new federal agency called the department of homeland security. as well as the tsa, billions of dollars have been spent to make sure that we're safe, as we fly, no one has said that airplanes were not going to go up in the sky. no one said that people couldn't ride. we put in extraordinary measures to red flag and act as
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preventative measures to insure airline safety and that everyone would be safe. well, we need the same thing, quite honestly, on the streets of america, in our cities and metro areas all across the country. >> i have been struck between the difference of mayors in different cities like you and mayor bloomberg, who have been aggressive trying to talk about gun control, and politicians who have backed away from such talk entirely. what is different on the local level that accounts for the different political approaches we're seeing? >> well, i can't speak to the moment, either mr. romney or the president has spoken out, and i expect that he will do so again in the future at an appropriate time. i think for mayors like mayor bloomberg, he and mayor menino out of boston, are co-chairs of mayors against illegal guns. i see it myself. every mayor is really on the
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front line when it comes to public safety issues. if someone is shot or killed in our cities, the public where we live expect us to do something. and so that's why you're hearing a great deal from the mayors. we have a duty and responsibility on the ground to try to solve these issues, prevent tragedy, and we certainly need additional help and resources. >> michael nutter, mayor of the great city of philadelphia. thank you so much for your time tonight. >> thank you. presidential politics resume today with a note to mitt romney. if you want to attack president obama on a certain position, make sure there's no videotape out there that shows you endorsing the exact same idea using the exact same language. proving the position you were attacking is in fact one you also believe. mitt romney caught on tape, next. hone. the global ready one ? yeah, but you won't need... ♪ hajimemashite.
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virginia. you did not build that. all at once, the entire republican campaign apparatus mobilized itself around the one comment from obama. now, president obama was saying something fairly clear. i mean, you can listen to it yourself. >> if you have been successful, you didn't get there on your own. you didn't get there on your own. if you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. there was a great teacher somewhere in your life. somebody helped to create this unbelievable american system that we have that allowed you to thrive. someone invested iproads and bridges. if you have a business, you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. the point is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative but also because we do things together. >> in the annals of controversy political statements, this
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should not be a particularly controversial one. it's the idea that human beings rely on each other as well as themselves. that they rely on the societies as well in order to succeed. the idea if you were born in north korea, you would not have the same career trajectory as if you were born in america. the idea if you love math but got here before newton invented calculus, you would have had a tougher time of it. the institutions we have here matter, infrastructure matters, trains matter, the teacher you had in eighth grade matters, the support your parents gave you matters. and you, of course, matter. as americans we know all that is true. and it's part affof why we call this the greatest country in the world. if individuals were all that matters, why would you care what country you were in? last week, republicans pretended not to know any of that. >> he said this, if you got a
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business, you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. to say that steve jobs didn't build apple, that henry ford didn't build ford motor, that papa john didn't build papa john pizza -- to say something like that is not just foolishness, it's insulting to every entrepreneur, every innovator in america, and it's wrong. >> i got to be honest, i tune out of these things sometimes, and this is one of those times. i didn't take any of it seriously when it was unfolding last week because the fact of the matter is mitt romney is not a stupid man. he knows better. i mean, mitt romney ran bain capital. it was a firm that went in and tried to help different people helping other businesses become successful again. and it did so in large part with help from the government. they used government tax deductions to carry out
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essentially interest free finance take overs to bring them back to profitability or barring that to strip them bare before they turn them out into bankruptcy. he's telling them if those businesses had not had access to romney and their team, they would have been in much worse shape. in any telling, if they had access to outside financing, they would have been in much worse shape. romney knows that. he knows the government has a role to play in helping businesses succeed, that other people have a role to play in helping businesses succeed. his krilticism to the contrary struck me as ridiculous and insincere. but republicans this week are still pushing this thing really hard. today, the rnc held a conference call with a pair of small business owners to highlight president obama's supposedly offensive comments. this was the backdrop at a mitt romney business round table in california. we did build it, it says. i bet he didn't build the banner, but whatever my suspicions, i didn't have a way
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to prove that he knew better. actually, i didn't have proof until today. today, when video came outf mitt romney telling olympic athletes back in 2002, you didn't build it. >> you guys pushed yourselves, drove yourselves, sacrificed and trained time and again, winning and losing. you olympians know you didn't get here solely on your own power. for most of you, loving parents, sisters or brothers, encouraged your hopes, coaches guided, all olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them. we have already cheered the olympians. let's also cheer the panchts, coaches, and communities. all right. >> got that, olympians? you didn't build it. you couldn't possibly have achieved what you have achieved to this point without the help of others. without the help sometimes of even the government which helped build the venues you compete in.
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i couldn't believe that quote when i first watched it, actually. like david axelrod went back in time and put the precise words he needed into mitt romney's mouth. romney even praises government in there. he didn't need to do that. he didn't need to bring up venues, but he praises government. you know, the reason he said it is it's all true. you could make a pretty good case that say a marathon runner did it mostly on his own, but most athletes like most benefits benefit from the institutions that exist in their societies. mitt romney knows that. he knows that when it comes to olympic athletes and he knows that when it comes to american businesses. this gets to something larger that we are seeing a lot right now in american politics. the effort to take relatively modest policy differences and blow them up into gigantic yawning chasms of philosophical difference. in reality, the difference between barack obama and mitt romney in terms of specific policy that comes from the idea
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you didn't build that or you did build that, is about a pursage point of gdp and taxes. maybe a little more or less depending on how you score the tax cut plan. mitt romney doesn't think there should be no taxes, he doesn't think there should be no public investment, and barack obama doesn't think we should have a 100% tax rate and 75 times more public investment. they both think we should have taxes that people pay because we're better off for helping one another out and both men think we should have public investment and public goods because there are things we all need to band to together to do collectively if we're going to succeed individually. the question is simply where to put the balance between the two. now, mitt romney may want to admit this, but he doesn't really have a choice anymore because the fact of the matter is he already admitted it. he admitted it ten years ago when he was kicking off one of the greatest spectacles of individual achievement one can
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possibly imagine, and he told those athletes at that time in effect, you didn't build it. mitt romney was right back then ability the athletes. they were helped even though they did much on their own. he knows he's wrong right now as he tries to run against obama's comments on american businesses. joining us now is e.j. dionne, washington post columnist, brookings institution senior fellow and the author of "divided political heart" which i'm told bill clinton has been talking up in political speeches. congrats on that. that's a lot to do all on your own. busy guy. >> i didn't build it myself. i had a great editor, a lot of friend, great colleagues. >> one of the things you talk about in the book, which is wonderful, bill clinton is right, is that in american history, there have been these competed threads between individualism and the emphasis on community and what we need to do together. it seems, at least to me, and i'm thought the historian you are, in recent years, much of that has been jettisoned by the
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republican party in an effort to paint themselves as the saviors of free enterprise and paint the democrats and obama as something radically alien and outside the american consensus. is that a fair judgment? >> that's a fair judgment. i think you had two things happen at the same time. i think you had the republicans entirely abandon what had been for them and for conservatism, a very strong communitarian commitment. bill buckley shortly before he died -- >> editor of national review. conservative journal. >> and bill buckley wrote a book called gratitude, where he talked about what we owe back for growing up in this society, for being nurtured by it, for being protected by it. we didn't do the on our own. if he tried to run on that book in a republican primary now, he would lose. in the meantime, obama and the democrats are really just talking about the traditional american balance between our love of community and liberty, between our respect for the role of private enterprise and of
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government. in building up the country, and so they have to invent a whole tale in order to cast the traditional american idea as some form of socialism. it's exactly what they did on the health care bill, as you know better than anyone. a heritage foun dagdz idea. >> mitt romney idea. >> a mitt romney idea. he was really desh. >> he didn't build that on his own. the heritage foundation and others helped him. >> my state, he doesn't want to talk about much. and they have just walked away from all that. and mitt romney has sounded consistently better ten years ago than he did once he decided to run for president. >> one interesting thread in this primary is it's completely normal to paint the opposing party's candidate as more extreme than they are. you want to do that. what isn't quite as normal is to spend so much time painting yourself as more extreme than you really are. there hasn't been a pivot as far as i have been able to tell from primary election romney to
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general election romney. a lot of things people assumed would fall off have remained and a lot of the arguments have remained the same. in that way he has been consistent, but somewhat unusually. he's been immoderately consistent. >> good word. like the etch-a-sketch is jammed. he was signaling the campaign aid was signaling we're going to do an adjustment after the primary. i think he's decided that you can flip or you can flop, but you can't flip and flop and flip and flop. so i think there's some reluctance to change again on his part, but this is what the republican party has become. in my book, i talk about people like jacob javts, a very progressive republican. could you imagine someone like him, who i quoted him in the book because he sounds so much like president obama. president obama in so many ways sounds like a moderate or liberal republican from 20 years ago right now. so romney is occupying this space, and i guess the republicans figure he doesn't
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want to run too far away from congress. he doesn't want to blow up the party. and so he is sticking with positions that i think really are way to the right of where conservatives and republicans used to be. >> e.j. dionne, washington post columnist, brookings institution senior fellow and author of "our divided political heart" wonderful book he didn't do all his own, but it's wonderful. >> thank you. >> tonight, as part of my career as a cable television dare devil, i will make my second attempt at something that has never been attempted before. i tried it the first time on this show. i survived my first try and i'm back tonight to defy the odds again. this time, with even more spectacular result. maybe. possibly. that is next. [ male announcer ] before you take it on your road trip... we take it on ours. this summer put your family in an exceptionally engineered mercedes-benz now for an exceptional price during the summer event. but hurry, this offer ends july 31st.
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on june 14th, i was lucky enough to be sitting in this chair, hosting this show, and what was more remarkable is what the staff here let me do. they let me do a whole segment on spanish bon yields. spanish bond yields. where else can you talk spanish bond yields. where else but the "rachel maddow show"? we called it the ezra klein challenge. the challenge was this, could i make you care about spanish bond yields in under two minutes. my argument was simple, if you're picking one indicator to watch to see if it was going to survive or fall, you would pick
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spanish bond yields because it would be bad if greece had to leave the euro, but it would be survival. there is no world where spain goes down and the euro endures. if spain goes down, the euro is going down. spanish bond yields, the thing you need to remember is the higher a bond yield is, the higher a country has to pay when they borrow money. spain can't afford to borrow the money necessary to finance itself, and the eurozone is going down. and that means our economy might be going down, too. well, since i did that segment, spanish bond yields have kept going up. this graph may not look so scary, those two lines, but it is actually terrifying. it's spanish bond yields at record highs. this is way above the level which the gryo, which spain and the euro can survive. tonight's ezra klein challenge is to sblan why this haspenned. have we got the clock here? all right. ready? set, go. austerity isn't working.
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we could actually just stop the clock there, but i have 1:55. tons of time, so look, spain has been doing what the eurozone has asked them to do, austerity, cutting budgets. they're trying. everybody agrees they have been a good falth actor. but that treatment is driving them deeper and deeper into recession, and the bond yields are the market, the market saying this is not working. this is the wrong medicine. something else needs to be done. and you know what else? it's no mystery what needs to be done. the eurozone has a central bank. that central bank could stop their run tomorrow if they're willing to commit to back spain up. they have less money than we do. this could end if they tied themselves together fiscally the way we have done, but they haven't been willing to do that. here they are and there spain goes, and wow, i still have a lot of extra time. we got through the fact that a high spanish debt yield is a terrible and scary number that should concern you.
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all right, you want the truth? i don't like scary movies or scary books or scary television shows. it's just not my thing. the one scary thing i am into, scary political science, and one of the scariest political scientists around is princeton's martin glens. what he has done is pour through hundreds and thousands of polls looking at what americans of different economic levels wants to happen in politics. then he looks at what really happens. the story he tells isn't that scary. the political system is likelier to listen to the affluent than the poor or middle class. what i didn't expect is what happened when the affluent disagreed with the poor and middle class. according to the data, it tends to at those moments ignore the poor and middle class entirely. joining me now so he can scare you the way he has scared me so
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many times is martin, the author of the new book that came out sunday, "affluence and influence." professor, thank you so much for being here. >> my pleasure. >> i want to make sure i understood this right. your research shows that when the affluent disagree with the poor and middle class, they cease to matter, is that correct? >> in ordinary circumstances, that exactly right. when preferences diverge, the government responds pretty strongly to the preferences to the affluent and not at all to the poor and middle class. >> the follow-up question is how can they be sustainable? when we talk about the affluent, we're talking about the topten% of the income distribution. it's a lot of people but not enough to win an election. how can politicians be ignoring the opinions of so many folks and keep getting elected? >> that's a good question and it
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has to do with the exceptions to the pattern. there are political circumstances which force policymakers, office holders, to respond to what the public wants and more equally to what low income americans want. those are the proximity of an election, especially a presidential election, and circumstances where the control of government is uncertain or divided. and in those cases, parties will be unwilling to pay the price that pursuing unpopular policies would exact. >> so this sounds really bad to folks, but one argument you hear people make, i have heard people make, anyway, is that it doesn't really matter. what voters want isn't for politicians to follow their opinions on policy but for politicians to deliver a rison standard of living. if that comes from choices that are different than the ones the voters would have made, so be it. >> there certainly are voters whose primary concern in an election is how either than own household is doing or more
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commonly, how the country is doing economically. but there are many voters, most voters, who take into account a much broader segment of issues and set of considerations, and for them, where a politician stands on a variety of things are important and voting is sometimes a matter of balancing economic performance against other kinds of considerations. >> so one of the findings in your book i found fascinating, i wouldn't have expected, you say gridlock makes parties more responsive because it acts as a filter because only popular policies can get through gridlock. and you say extremely competitive elections help because they only have reason to let popular policies go through. but when i look at the last few years of gridlock and fierce party competition, i see a political system being badly governed and much more to the point, a policy that is really, really unhappy. the parties are closely matched.
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there's tons of gridlock, and congress is at its lowest approval rating since we started grading that. doesn't that show a wise goal for us to strive for? >> it's only one element of what we would want from the government. it's true that gridlock has negative consequences, and they're very evident, but it also has this positive side which i think has gone unrecognized previously. that is under the circumstances, when not much policy is adopted, it doesn't mean that government is doing better, but it does mean those policies that are adopted tend to be more popular. it's a bit of a silver lining to an otherwise rather gray cloud. >> you're not that scary after all. martin gilens. author of "afffluence and influence" which is terrific. thank you very much for being here. >> my pleasure. >> attention car tog rfers, if a
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sgloor in august of 1961, the government of east germany began
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ronald reagan. you can't just say ronald reagan like a spell, and wonderful things begin to happen. in the 2008 presidential campaign, former massachusetts governor mitt romney introduced his reagan zone of economic freedom. not the romney zone of economic freedom, mr. romney does not have that sort of power yet. it was the reagan zone of economic freedom. president obama in his foreign policy team have pursued a policy of taken china's misbehavior to the world trade organization to try to stop china from cheating wherever possible and question their human rights, but romney thinks that turns america into a door mat. he thinks president obama is letting china walk all over him. he would not push china on that wto stuff. his solution instead is to create a reagan zone. a reagan zone for all of the countries around china. while it is extremely unlikely china would join the reagan
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zone, our offer to allow china to join would modify their trade and industrial behavior. seriously, that's the plan. it's up there on the current campaign website. we create the zone, china says no to the zoin, but to the zone still gets china to participate in free trade on fair terms because, you know, reagan! but governor romney's reagan zone has been badly outdone in their devotion to those two magical words that solve problems by their very incantation. the prize for most spectacular assumption around the power of reagan currently goes to republican congressman darrell issa. mr. issa is probably the most famous for holding all-male hearings about contraception and charging the the attorney general of the united states with contempt. but congressman issa recently found time in his schedule to introduce the prize-winning entry in the president reagan can still solve all of our problems sweepstakes. mr. issa's new bill would rename the waters off the coastal u.s.,
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pretty much all of those waters, actually, after mr. reagan. you heard me right. all of america's coastal water would be renamed "reagan water." it would all be the wet reagan zone. this slice of the world right here includes the united states and its territories. they're in the dark green. and the areas in blue extending from 3 to 200 miles offshore are called the economic zone. mr. romney wants to rename them the reagan economic zone. reagan established the eez in 1983, with a proclamation that declares that the united states has sovereign rights of exploring and exploiting and conserving and managing natural resources of the zone. so mr. issa wants to name 4.5 million square miles of the ocean after mr. reagan. because it's a lot like a d.c.
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>> yes! yes! yes! yes! yes! >> go, go, go, go! >> whoo! >> whoo-hoo! >> i don't know if that was a bona fide tony robbins event as was labeled on the video was, it's the idea, chant yes, yes, yes, have some drumming in the background, and end with whoops of excitement from people who have walked over hot coals, heated to a temperature of more than 1,000 degrees. and they do it without getting burned. whoo! mind over matter, baby. that actually is going to be the end, i fear, of my career as a motivational speaker. as i said, the event usually ends with huge whoops of excitement and empowerment. last week in san jose, california, however, the jubilation was punk wactuated b screams of pain as several
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people got burns on their feet. the hubbub led his company to say they are working with authorities to improve safety. now, i have a suggestion for them right now about how to improve the safety of the hot coal thing. step one, do not do the hot coal thing anymore. but if they're going to do it, perhaps instead of imagining you're walking on cool moss, as tony robbins exhorts you to, why not visualize the science of why walking on coals does not have to hurt. it basically has to do with the fact that charcoal, which is made off ewood, is a poor conductor of heat. as an ap medical writer who tried fire walking in 2005 put it, that is the reason it is possible to hold a wooden match and not feel the heat through the wood while the tip burns. it's why cooking pots used to have handles made of wood. the myth busters tested this back in '08. they looked at the surface temperature of a piece of charcoal from a bed that was heated to 900 degrees. >> apparently, charcoal and ash
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are four times better at insulation than wood. so in theory, i should be able to pick up one of these coals, which on one side is 900 degrees, and on the charcoal and ashy side, it's 300 degrees. so i should be able to put this in the palm of my hand without injury. >> even so. so reason one the coal ash acts as an insulator, making a thousand-plus degree fire significantly less hot to the touch. still hotter than you might like, i don't think i'd put that in my palm, but not as hot as advertised. the then there's your rate of speed as you walk. >> and the first set of results up for analysis is the high-speed camera shots, showing exactly how much toe-touching time there is. >> so it turns out that my foot was only in contact with the hot coals from heel to toe for 9/10 of a second