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>> show some respect. >> governor romney. >> show some respect. >> we won't have another chance to ask him questions. >> this is a holy site for the pole your peop polish people. show some respect. >> i think i need a new chapter on reverend al's etiquette tips. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. road rage. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris math news washington. let me start with mitt romney's bumpy adventure. before this week, his most infamous trip out of the country was when he roped the family dog to the roof. no more. after trashing the brits olympics, degrading the arabs, we figured there would be worse trouble coming in poland.
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boy, we were right. here's the word from romney's spokesman on that leg of the trip. hold your ears. this is official. kiss my -- he yelled to the reporters asking for a word from the candidate. he yelled at the other one -- shove it. these are his people speaking for mitt romney. is this the message for mr. and mrs. north america and all the ships at sea? kiss my -- and shove it? talk about a bad audition. his people wanted to show how well he would behave overseas. so who is the character we have seen the last week? the one we discovered out there in the country of the world. mitt romney or don rickles? let's talk about the latest crazy road trip of mitt romney's. jonathan martin is with politico. part of the traveling press corps recovering mitt romney. he joins from us poland. glen johnson is "the boston globe's" politics reporter. with me here in the studio, simon marks, chief correspondent for feature story news. jonathan martin, i know you
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don't like to get into this but let's talk about the fact that you are on the spot and you have "dateline" integrity and looking good. here's the infamous dustup in warsaw. early this morning, reporters covering romney tried to shout questions to the governor. as he got into his motorcade. romney had only answered three questions from the press corps during the entire three ctrip. his spokesman made it clear he wouldn't answer any more than the three. >> governor romney! >> governor romney, do you have a statement for the palestinians? >> what about your gaffes? >> governor romney, do you feel that your gaffe have overshadowed your foreign trip? >> show some respect. >> governor romney. >> show some respect. >> we don't have another chance to ask him questions. >> this is a holy site for the polish people. show some respect. >> that's going to get -- go down in history.
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kiss my -- the rest of it -- and this is a holy site. putting those two thoughts together it is hard for most people. jonathan, what did you fellows and women think when you heard in the press corps that conjunction of words. kiss my followed by this is a holy si holy site? >> i think -- reflect it is frustration on governor romney's staff because, you know, they are trying to do their job and sort of corral us. look, we have a job to do, too, in the press corps. that is, for our readers, get answers for a candidate for president of the united states. the fact is that he had not given any real time to the traveling press corps and a question and answer session. traditional press conference like many candidates do. like president obama did four years ago when he was then senator obama and so we had no choice but to yell questions when we have taunt to the candidate when he is walking to his motorcade after he finishes a public event. it is unfortunate it got to
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that. this is what happens when we are trying to get answers and no opportunity to ask governor romney questions in a traditional question and answer press conference. >> you know what it looks like here, when you are with -- when you are watching romney on the road, he looks like one of those robots in the hall of the presidents at disney world. stand it and walk robotcally and don't -- only talk the thing they always say over and over again to the tourists coming by. he doesn't look like he wants to engage in any human being. why did he go overseas if he didn't want to meet anybody? >> he went overseas in part to the middle eastern trip in mind to shore up his support back home with american jewish folks. there are real issues for him to address and be questioned about. the speech he made with the historic city of jerusalem behind him suggesting that he supports the move of the capital to jerusalem, then has questions that result from it about does that mean you want to move the u.s. embassy to jerusalem? there are real issues that arise out of that that he's not giving
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members of the traveling press corps an opportunity to ask him about. >> political downside, though. there's no political downside there, though, chris, for a republican candidate for president who is trying to cut into the jewish vote to, you know, come off as a pandering to miles an hour jews. that's all offside for him. look, i understand the view may be different overseas. but politically for romney jerusalem was the best stop, i think, because he wants to get 35%, perhaps even higher, jewish vote in america. you can't be too pro-israel if that's what your goal is. that's the least of his problems i think overseas. his larger challenge wassing the fact that he has a problem with context in and with setting. doesn't understand the impact of his words sometimes. most individually displayed when he was talking about the olympics and the uk's preparation for the olympics and hurt himself for the first two, three days of the trip. >> going over -- i want to get to glen johnson.
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i want to get into the politics in the middle east. going over there and pandering the way he did, anybody, 3-year-old could do that. it is not whether he can pander. whether he has -- as you said, jonathan to know what he is talking about and nuance of the very tricky situations which are going to be going on when we are all 100 years old. still fight being the middle east. you don't start wars and you don't start trouble. anybody can pander. can he think? can he answer questions on the spot? that's my question. >> the issue, too, also is that he had a good story to tell going over to london. he was the guy that resurrected the 2002 olympic winter games in salt lake city and talked about none of that in he defended himself in the london preparations and not about the positive lessons that he drew out of his olympic experience himself. so there was a huge missed opportunity. as jonathan said the opportunity going into jerusalem was to lay out a foreign policy vision and yet, there he detracted completely from that speech with a conversation and comment he
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made in a private fund-raiser. so the big touchstone moments including today in warsaw where he wanted to do another foreign policy speech looking to the east, he also was -- that was overshadowed with gorka's comments. when he tried to overlay substance or something substantive to talk about, it got overshadowed by his own word. >> democrats having a lot of fun with the romney trip. former obama -- let me do this. chief of staff rahm emanuel said this to the "l.a. times." yesterday, quote, at every level this trip has shown more of how mitt romney is not ready for the oval office. i don't know how he will handle the head of state job. he has made a mess of being a tourist. that's their democratic shot at him for his conduct this trip. jonathan? >> chris, i think glen has it right. the biggest surprise to me was why in the heck romney folks did not try to take more advantage of his good news story about
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saving the salt lake games in '02? i thought that was the chief reason besides going to israel for day and getting a picture with b.b. he was going on this trip, to remind americans look, i'm not just some rich corporate tycoon. i helped save the olympics in america. there was no echo in london to marine mind us about that. it was baffling he did not seize that opportunity more and to me, that is perhaps the biggest missed opportunity of this trip. >> i think that -- in sports terms, you have a big ten schedule, 11, 12 games, right? you think you got the easy one. this was theies write one. he wasn't up for it. let's take a look at the interview carl cameron had with romney. romney took on the press and coverage of his trip. that's to be expected. >> i realize that the -- there will be some in the state who are far more interested in
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finding something to write about they unrelated to the economy, to geopolitics, the this threat of war, afghanistan, nuclearization of iran. they will instead try to find anything else to divert from the fact that this last four years have been tough years for our country. >> maybe it said something about geopolitics and something deep, people would have reported it. >> i think he had an opportunity to change the subject and get people to ask him substantial questions. if you look at what he said in poland a few hours ago he slammed putin's stewardship of russia and repressive brutality of belarus. no one is talking about that tonight. >> why does he do this macho man thing? she has never been in the military, never been in a school yard fight. this metaphor cal foreign policy drives me crazy. he always wants to fight. yet he doesn't have any knowledge of fighting. he wants somebody else to fight. he wants another war front. >> he 'using the backdrop of poland where battles have been
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waged in the past against repressive regimes to try to raise the issue they are there are still repressive regimes that work in parts of europe. he has no opportunity to get that message across because of now the fundamentally corrosive nature of his relationship with his own press corps. >> easiest position for him to take on every front is to be more aggressive, more tough on foreign policy, and at least in words than the president. it doesn't show intelligence, does than show guts. he hasn't once said obama's right on this one. he never once says i would be more moderate on this one. always to the right. same old tea party crap. go to the right, go to the right. it is safe over there. your thoughts, glen? >> it reminds me of where we were four years ago. i flew on a trip with then senator obama from chicago to andrews air force base where he got on his plane to fly over to afghanistan for his first trip there. and at the time there was a real question about his preparation to handle foreign policy. and i think, you know, white house emphasizing his
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anti-terrorism moves since then, getting bin laden and all that. you see now with mitt romney, the same unfamiliarity with foreign affairs and when you are fed a script like he is, goes to jerusalem and says things, he hasn't internalized yet, goes to poland and says things he hasn't internalized yet, you know, you see some -- level of timidness there or uncertainty and it comes off in just the body english you talked about earlier in the show. you know, he -- brought out there, he says these things and then walks to the car and and when questions are thrown at him he does want to deviate from that because he is leaving house comfort zone there of the script that had been put in front of him. so i think this whole trip underlines for him that the domestic policy and jobs you heard him talk about are where he wants to fight this campaign. foreign affairs is still a territory for -- new territory for him. >> lot of republicans are saying he shouldn't have gone on the trip, better staying home. jonathan martin, thank you for coming back. coming to us from poland. glen johnson, thank you. simon marks. coming up gay marriage.
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the 2012 democratic platform endorses same-sex marriage. the drafting committee took the first step this weekend recommending that it be included. next comes the tricky part. the wording. will it call for a federal law covering all americans? endorse a state by state approach? trickier still is how this will play with voters. some democrats worry they may just have created a wedge issue here. dividing their own supporters uniting republicans against them. u.s. congressman barney frank is on the platform drafting committee doing the work on
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this. "time" magazine's mark halperin, senior msnbc political analyst. i want you to watch a conversation i had a while back in the summer with antonio, the mayor of los angeles. also, of course, the chair of the democratic national convention this summer in charlotte, north carolina. let's watch what he had to say. when the democrats write their platform this summer on same sex, will you endorse a state by state approach this for federal law that guarantees the right of people to marry someone of the same sex? will it be federal or state by state? >> i think that i made it fairly clear. i think that marriage equality is a fundamental liberty that the federal government and our constitution ought to protect. i made that clear. you are not nailing me to anything, my friend. i think it is about family values. i think we ought to keep families together on the migration side but also when
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someone wants to marry and they want to have a loving relationship, the federal government should not be interfering with that right. >> should the federal government support the right to a same-sex marriage in the law? >> yes. >> okay. congressman frank, is that how far your drafting is taking us to -- >> chris, i don't understand what that means. there was a fundamental confusion here. there has never been a practical law saying that what marriage is. marriage has been left to the states. now, first i would say as far as this being a wedge issue, the democrats already in the u.s. house of representatives and through the president have made clear that we are opposed to bans on same-sex marriage. the house voted. i'm puzzled. people got it backwards. platform supposed to tell the elected officials how they should vote. we have already voted. in the house, ten days ago, on an amendment to reaffirm the defense of marriage act, the republicans voted 230-5 to
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reaffirm this cancellation of our marriages and democrats voted 161-17 against it. two parties are already splat there. the point is there is no federal law to be passed. look at the situation with race. when there was states that would not allow interracial marriage, even after the civil rights act has passed in '64 and '65, there was month federal law saying integrational marriage had to be allowed. it was done by the supreme court. the constitutional framework has always been states decide who gets married. our objection for the first time has the federal government picking and choosing who can get married. there's never been a federal law defining marriage. i don't know how you would do one. it goes beyond the role of the federal government. role of the federal government is, as i said, to recognize what the -- the states have done. it is true that the supreme court stepped in and in the loving case to say you can't use race but that was a court decision.
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it wasn't a congressional enactment and wasn't -- >> congressman, we had the civil rights act in '64 and said you couldn't deny somebody access to public accommodation. >> you are wrong. you are wrong, chris. >> i'm wrong about what? >> in 1964, there were state laws against interracial marriage and -- >> i'm not talking about interracial -- public accommodations. you said there is no precedent for the federal government declaring -- >> no, chris, please, don't distort what i said. i said there is no precedent for a law defining marriage. you made my point. in '64 in that far-reaching civil rights act and later in the voting rights act, the federal government didn't try to strike down the state ban and interracial marriages. that had to be done through the courts. not something that could be -- >> what did the mayor mean when he said federal law? >> what do you think i would answer you to that? that you should ask the mayor.
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what happened is people who haven't followed the law -- understand that we like it to be national but there has never -- that has never happened. what's happen sing people are trying to -- i don't know. unintentionally cloud the issue. it has always been up to the states. the only federal rule on the subject was a defense of marriage act which the democrats are trying to overthrow. i would hope if president obama is re-elected he would appoint justices who would then follow the constitution but that's the level at which it would be dealt with as it was in race good let's talk about the politics, mark halperin. if democrats ask for a far-reaching platform plank, the policy of the united states should be marriage equality. would that be a big problem for them politically? north carolina, ohio, places like that. >> huge problem. >> state by state. >> no way it can end up that way. only way i can think of you could craft a federal statute that would have the effect you are talking about is that if you linked it to something. if you said states can't getter
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is kinds of aid, given the supreme court decision and general precedence i don't think there is a chance that will happen. state by state and overturned is i suspect where they are headed. politics of that are already divide. >> let's talk about it. if it comes down to state by state, up to the states and democratic party recognizes that situation. >> urges states to make it. >> how is that going to affect ohio? >> i think ohio, iowa, virginia, and north carolina are all states where democrats can look at and it say if the targeted messages go out right this could unbalance and four important states. >> your thoughts, mr. frank about how this will affect the election? >> chris, this is -- i'm puzzled by this. the president has already said that is his position. doma is unconstitutional and believes people should have the right to get married to people of the same sex and taken concrete action to oppose it. all the ohio democrats voted against the defense of marriage act. on this issue, the gem krpeopleg
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you platform, more prominence than it ever earn. >> i predict that the beginning of the democratic convention in charlotte when nothing else is happening monday and tuesday when the word is out about the platform, we will be talking a lot about that on the front pages of newspapers across the country. this is a big issue politically. >> except that -- i understand it is an issue. i'm baffled by the media. why wasn't it a big issue when the president of the united states repudiated it and said it was unconstitutional and refused to defend it? why wasn't it a big issue when the house of representatives voted on it? it is as position that will's nothing new about it. there is -- notion the platd form plat fo platform -- >> you know where i understand. first time in history a major political party of this done trip, two of them, comes out for marriage equality. that's big news. >> you are wrong here in this sense. it is not the first time. the president of the united states and 90% of the house democrats have already done it.
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this worship of a party platform. cane even remember what was ever in any party plat form. >> you are on it now. you are writing it. >> democratic position has already been very clear from the president and from the votes of the house. >> thank you, congressman frank, as always. mark. will it have a an impact. up next, jon stewart on mitt romney's insult tour. coming up later in the hour, will ferrell and zach galifianakis of "the campaign." they are coming here, "hardball," the place for politics. look at those toys. insurance must be expensive.
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while in the u.k. probably romney's worst gaffe when he visited buckingham palace and said to queen elizabeth, you call this a house n. >> it all started with the comment romney made about london's preparations for the olympics. disconcerting 'twas word he used. here's jon stewart on the question of how could he botch that one? >> before the games officially opened, our own mitt romney headed to london. romney's mr. olympics, having saved the salt lake city games in 1992. england is our closest ally. what could possibly go wrong? >> in the short time you have been here in london, do they like ready to your experienced eye? >> you know, it is hard to know just how well lit turn out. there are a few things that were disconce disconcerting. >> what are you doing? this is no time to display your sophisticated knowledge of --
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you are a guest at a dinner party. nod your head. say it is delicious. that's all you have to do. loop another one up for me. >> the short time you have been here in london, do they look ready to your experienced eye? >> oh. yes. okay. that's it. done. >> here's something you probably haven't considered about the olympics opening ceremony. which performance was more socialist? the one we saw on friday or the ceremony in beijing four years ago? you got it. ru rushbo taking note of this year's ceremony, the uk's national health service. >> the people of great britain don't even like the national health service. and then it hit me. and then it hit me. it was actually done on behalf of president kardashian. they did it for obama. nobody will convince me otherwise. i remember the opening ceremony. you know what stands out, you
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had tens of thousands of people all doing the same thing. like watching zombies. so now that we move to the uk and we have that opening ceremony, where we had dash i think it is even worse. theoretically the u.k. is made up of free people. and what did they choose to highlight about themselves but a bunch of collectivism. >> you heard it there. the brits to thank for what can only be called a meticulously planned homage to president obama and socialized medicine known as the olympics opening ceremony. finally, how do we know campaign ads are officially dominating the president's race? no cameras allowed fund-raiser last night the president told a -- told the story of a couple who attended one of his events with their 4-year-old son, sammy.
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it was a picture of me somewhere, they said, and sammy, who is that? he said, and that's barack obama. and what does barack obama do? and the boy thinks for a second and he says -- he approves this message. tag line to every ad the campaign puts out. up next the past few days, three republicans have come forward to say their party has gone too far to the right. remember, we have will ferrell coming up in these chairs and zach galifianakis. big dreams. one is for a clean, domestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and responsibly producing natural gas. it's not a dream. america's natural gas... putting us in control of our energy future, now.
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announcing his retirement and his frustration of serving with the republican party for 20 years. he's not the only one. i have to say i'm frustrated by much we, the republican party, are willing to give deferential treatment to our extremes in the moment in history. fissures in the party appear to be growing. michael steele is former chair of the republican national committee. msnbc political analysts. now, important to note latourette took a shot at both parties but clearly retiring from one. his problem was at home is that often as in politics tougher than your brothers and sisters than you are on the other side. for years now i noticed you tried to carve something of a moderate position near the center coming from the republican side that the suburban voters tend to adhere to. they are not wingers. they are not tea partiers. they tend to want less government but they are not
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crazy. they don't want to get rid of government. they want fair taxes. where are the voice -- are we going to see it less and less voice for people like that in the years ahead? >> i sure hope so. because the largest growing group of voters in this country are not rs or ds. the republican party has got to stop taking marching orders from talk radio hosts and, frankly, start taking more marching orders from guys like michael steele. that's the future of the party. the demographics are not on the side of the gop. so if they don't get what w the new program soon, they are going to be out of existence. >> michael, you were the -- i think boss is probably too strong a term. mild-mannered guy. if you are the head of the republican party, what sit about your party? you take a shot at the other side, obviously. about the parties that get pulled so far to the right. someone like bachmann is taken seriously by people. not everybody. not by mccain or lindsey graham
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or people like that. but taken seriously by people like newt gingrich, limbaugh and those people. they get the big noise out there. >> there is this idea you get a lot of noise from people who are out there pushing a particular agenda or particular idea. and what i argued this chairman of the rnc is that's great. that's part of the -- who we are. and how we have grown as a pert. how we have managed to be successful. following the reagan legacy of embracing the diversity of the country and intriting people -- you are talking about embracing crazy talk. when you go out and target -- no. like abedin and let's make her a muslim brotherhood suspect, is that what you want? >> this is the point you are making and i'm agreeing with it. that is that those extreme conversations where you sound ridiculous, look ridiculous and are ridiculous, delegitimize the
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efforts of, you know, every day republicans who are trying to stick to some core principles about government and taxes and freedom. and want that expressed in their leadership. instead what's happened is that there is a hijacking and a hostage taking mindset in some case if you don't, therefore, i will. instead of just saying, how does this fit into the overall narrative of what we are and what we believe? how do we look at an 18-year-old african-american male and say this is a place where you belong politically. there is an opportunity for you here. between don't do that. we go the way of the wigs. that's -- >> let me talk -- >> very sensitive of as chairman. >> this is -- long ago history. right now, you know this as well. you look over the whole northeast. all of new england. there used to be a republican senator or two in every one of those states when we were growing up. they are all gone. the northeast has been -- evacuated by the republican party. it has gone down to the southwest, sunbelt, people are willing to listen to some of
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this really wild right-wing talk. >> you are right. you know the national journal, i think, has done an extraordinary job of actually documenting the dearth of candidates and office holders in the center. both from the left and right. if you go to ronald reagan's watch in the early '80s, national journal documents that 60% of the senate was somewhere in the middle. today every republican, more conservative than every democrat. every democrat more liberal than every republican in the senate. total absence of moderates. it is just not a good thing for the country. the country, i think, has gone in a different direction. so they are totally out of sync with the rest of the nation or at least i would argue. >> i love that statistic. can you get it to me? i love that statistic. it is so untrue today. michael, is there any chance republican party can go back to the center right instead of hard right? >> i believe so. i look at the next team, the farm, bench coming up, yes. you look at the paul ryans, look
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at these guys, bob mcdonnells, chris christies. these guys, particular ily those like chris christie, governing in blue states, northern eastern states, bring a very different message and very different style of republicanism to the table which is long overdue. i think it is important -- important focus for the next few years. >> thank you so much, michael steele. thank you, michael. two voices of reason. will ferrell, zach galifianakis, stars of the very funny new political movie, "the campaign." they are coming here right now. when we get back. measure commitment by what's getting done. the twenty billion dollars bp committed has helped fund economic and environmental recovery. long-term, bp's made a five hundred million dollar commitment to support scientists studying the environment. and the gulf is open for business - the beaches are beautiful, the seafood is delicious. last year, many areas even reported record tourism seasons. the progress continues... but at doesn't mean our job is done.
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we are back. would of the funniest men in hollywood, will ferrell. there he is. and zach galifianakis teamed up for latest film, "the campaign." it is a biting satire of our modern age of politics. take a look. >> hey, hey. that's my baby to kiss. >> excuse me. >> excuse me. >> you don't take a swing at my hair. ♪ my country 'tis of thee ♪ sweet land of liberty >> i love the pacifier going to the ground there. not exactly mr. smith goes to washington, is it?
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will ferrell and zach galifianakis here to play real hardball. this movie, this movie, is really funny. it is up there with your best stuff, guys. i love "anchorman." you did us credit. >> classic. pretty accurate, right? >> nailed me. >> "hangover," best movie ever. deepest movie ever. >> thank you. >> most important movie ever. >> i only do political movies. >> you know what, when i -- i watched this movie last night. everybody watching ought to pay attention to this thought. you are funny. it ain't funny when you are telling -- would hours, hour and a half of funny slapstick and wit and satire. but you are talking about two awful people. these two guys. john lithgow and dan aykroyd. go around like rich guys. "trading places." pick winners and losers in campaigns with their billion. >> yeah. >> how do you feel about that n. >> you know, i mean, we -- we really -- just wanted the movie to be nonpartisan in politics.
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>> it is -- >> yeah, well, we wanted -- you know, we wanted to put a mirror up to the fact that there is all this money flowing into -- >> what do you think? as american. >> i love it. i love it. i think it is great. >> okay. >> i don't think it is hindering the, you know, from people from governing at all. >> zach, your uncle was the congressman from north carolina in chap i will hill when i was in grad school. is he still there? this stuff is real. north carolina race you are talking about for congress. >> he ran against jessie helms. >> he beat him, right? >> no. >> finished that guy, didn't he? >> no, no. no, he didn't. but, yeah, just kind of a throwback to the dirty politics that have been -- north carolina seen. south sees it a lot. what's interesting about the movie is it is set in the polite south but athere are all these
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terrible mud shrinksinslinging >> you are replying john edwards. >> and donna shalala. >> a look at the scene from the movie donna russshalala. she is great. here is the movie in which the adviser is giving the candidate character advice. here is zach with tough political reality lessons being given to him. let's watch. >> right now your like built ab 26%. looks like the travelocity gnome. if you want to help this district the first thing you have to do, marty, is win. >> i do want to help the district. i love my home. it is just -- it all happened so fast. >> i think cam brady can be beaten. but i don't believe you believe that. you know what, i'm going to call your dad and tell them you don't have the rocks for this. >> you put your phone away.
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this might be hard for you to believe but this dog has a ton of fight in him. a ton of fight. when i get a scent, i hunt, brother. hint all day effeminate, soft spoken, and they turn him into some wildman, macho man from the right wing. >> his ego gets the best of him. i think that's what happens sometimes in politics. they get pulled from obscurity and they are like, you want to be vice president? yeah, i can do that. but they're not qualified. >> what would george bush think about this? >> he'd probably think it's a funny movie. a lot of laughs, yeah. i'm glad i'm done with the circus. it's a real circus out there. forget about it, you know? >> did he ever call you up and say you got me, george w., the president, because everyone thinks of you as him. >> i have heard from various sources he thought i was pretty
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funny. yeah, but no, i never had direct contact. >> that sort of act of his is like an act, he doesn't really act like that in life? if he normally behaved like that, buzz he does in public. trying to be tough. >> tough and my way or the highway. >> i want you to take a look at new talent. somebody did an -- showed up in the movie four, five times. >> a young hot actor. >> i wonder if this guy has a future. let's take a look. >> breaking news out of north caroli carolina. cam brady getting a run for his money by newcomer marty huggins. this is likely to hurt him with the christian right, social conservatives, any group that opposes baby punching. remember the politician that punched a baby? he's at it again. he punched ugy, the dog from the academy award winning film "the artist." north carolina's 14th district, one of the last to call it. today, opponent marty huggins did the craziest stunt to date.
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>> you know what is scary -- >> you're in it way too much. >> i did it like i believe it. jay roach, your director, who did game change and did recount, he's great. he knows his political theater really well. >> he does, and he's also -- you know, he's responsible for the austin powers movies and meet the parents. he's kind of unique in that he knees how to do the broad band comedies and also politics. >> i watched with my two boys. they're in their 20s, one just turned 30, and i'm thinking, is this helping young people vote, yes, will ferrell. >> what did they say? >> i'm going to encourage it. although one of my kids is to the left of obama, which i have to work on a little bit. he's mad about gitmo and things like that. a lot of people are. are you worried when you see a movie that is slapist stick and
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shows the evils of the koch brothers and money in the campaigns, does it worry you that kids are going to say, why vote? >> we're both optimistic, first, to get people in the door, it's just funny. it's just funny characters, and we're kind of going at each other, and then underneath that, there's that message of, you know, we need to keep an eye on this, otherwise this system is not going to work for us anymore. >> by the way, i have to say as a political expert -- well, i am, it's real. the way you guys portray it will pass any test of accuracy. and it's frightening how real it is. two rich guys can walk around and just deign results with their huge money. >> we were discussing that. a couple 17-year-olds see the movie and they're not politically aware and discuss it after the movie, all the money in citizens united, that's a good discussion for teenagers to start having, i think. >> a great thing.
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i think people ought to see the movie. a lot of fun and truth in it. "the campaign" in theaters next friday, august 10th, around the country. lots of theaters, especially one near you. thank you, will ferrell, zach galifianakis. we'll be right back. >> as a questichristian, i gues would be easy for you to recite the lord's prayer. >> is that what we're resorting to, guess toppo tactics. >> i would like to hear it. >> fine, i'm happy to. >> our father art who is up in heaven, alley vera be thy name. the thigh, thy kingdom, the magic kingdom as it is on earth in helicopter. today ♪ ♪ spread a little love my way ♪ ♪ spread a little something to remember ♪
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this. i just saw the movie "the campaign" the producers gave me a dvd to watch at home for tonight's show. and this is a very funny movie. if you love these guys, will ferrell and zach galifianakis, and most people do, it's impossible not to see the craziness in the story of a democrat running against a challenger who comes out of nowhere to try to beat him. beat him with the huge money of a couple brothers who bear a striking resemblance to the koch brothers. but beneath the jokes and slap stick, there's a hard reality. this is what politics is on the
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verge of becoming. a couple guys who made money in gas and oil who use the statistics and intel to go and pick off a person who doesn't vote their interests, putting in someone who will right down the line. now that isn't funny. the communists used to attack our democracy as nothing more than a show put on and paid for by the rockefellers. it was a slam to believe that the american people freely choose their leaders. but that old charge is becoming true. we have seen elections here and there exactly what the c communists used to say about us, that we're kidding ourselves. that elections were run by people with big money for people with big money. i don't like the citizens united decision. i don't like people who think they have as many rights as dollars. it's not what we americans believe in. not what americans fight for. not what ye newts us as a country. i want the real
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