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we'll have that video late. joining me we have sam seder, mia wiley. judith brown and my colleague arnie berman. fantastic to have you here this morning. on thursday a new "boston globe" analysis showed republican in a end registrations in toss up states are far outpacing those of democrats. a new university usa poll shows a large number of people who are sympathetic to president obama are also unlikely to sfroevote him. 43% would vote for obama compared to 14%. and 43% of registered but unlikely voters would vote for obama compared to romney. that's why the campaigns are engaged in a battle on who gets

to vote. groups are planning to appeal a judge's ruling in pence to let a strict voter i.d. to take effect. it do disenfranchise 60,000 voters or about 9% of the state's registered voters according to department of transportation. in ohio, john huftin cancelled weekend voting statewide and suspended two democrats on a county election board after they voted to allow weekend voting. that's an amazing story. the obama campaign has filed a lawsuit in federal court to restore voting on the three days before the election and that is being dealt with right now. there are some good news for democrats and voting groups rights where a federal court rejected part of the state's new that would have restricted the number of early voting days. it can't take effect in five

counties because it makes it difficult for some minority vote towers cast a ballot. so this is happening -- there's a variety of battles happening over this issue. let's talk -- let's say pence because i think that's the headline of the week and we have a congressman would will be joining us in a moment. i'm really interested -- so when you're dealing with voter i.d. laws those that got the most attention, and when you're dealing with voter i.d. laws you have an argument on the other side that there's this problem of vote are fraud and voter impersonation. every single empericcal look shows it's a none issue. they also think we should shorten early voting. what is the argument there, precisely? i'm asking an unfair question. is there an argument there?

>> you want me to make up one? >> please. >> so, if i were to make up one, some of the things that we've heard is that it cost taos much to have weekend voting. in fact, most election officials like it because it spread out all of the voters over a number of days so they don't get that tuesday crunch. but republican legislators say no it costs too much let's shorten it. but then why shorten it and cut out that particular weekend that african-american churches on the sunday do souls to the polls campaign. we know disproportionately african-americans participate in early voting in florida in particular they are more likely to vote on that last sunday before election day and the governor said when he signed the law he said i didn't even know that the black churches did that. but all of the statistics show that african-americans and latinos disproportionately vote during early voting. >> can i say, there's four principle ways that the right to

vote has been restricted since the 2010 election. restricting voter registration drive. disenfranchising ex-felons. there's different rationales. for voting registration it's a.c.o.r.n. for early voting it's too expensive. voter i.d. it costs too much money. you have the voter fraud. and ex-felons they don't deserve to vote. even though they paid their debt to society they shouldn't be back in the political process. if you look at all these different restrictions together what you see is a trend and the trend that you see is that the people that are most likely to be harmed by these restrictions are people that would have voted for barack obama in 2008. it's no coincidence it happened in 2010. >> we should also add to the list the purgers, it spread to 13 states with that being the

underlying so-called reason is we don't want nonsuzes voting even though they are again just like the fraud there's no evidence of that happening. >> make no mistake this is not something new to 2010. this is something that's been going on, republicans have said -- >> reconstruction, it goes back for a while. >> the less people who come out to vote the more it will benefit the republican party, frankly. so, this is more of the same. >> but it's not different but it is broader and deeper and more wide scale. >> actually technology has improved. >> this is really interesting to me. it seems to me that there's been a massive expansion of these kinds of activities at the state level and what is that about? is that because of the 2010 brought a lot of -- >> exactly. they are empowered to change the rules. so instead of having to do the way that it used to happen which is through intimidation, last

minute misinformation, the robo calls they are in a position to change the rules of the game and be able to stack -- >> election added momentum to republicans needing to do this because they saw the coalition obama turned out, young voters, hispanics, african-americans, they said we can't let this happen again. when they got in power in 2010, they said this has to be priority number one. we have to shape an electorate to our favor because of the demographics of the country are changing that don't benefit us as a power. >> remember that these laws in addition to there being different people in control, also has been that there have been specific nonprofit in this case, alec, that has pushed these laws across the state. it's a combination of not having the not for profit infrastructure that supports the lawmakers who are there and we actually have to think about how we do that combat these. >> it's interesting to think, what you see in this is that

there's one -- just take away the moral problem here, which is that the right to vote is a matter of human dignity, human rights. >> fundamental. >> corner stone of democracy, self-determination, throw that out for a second and talk about raw politics. one political coalition in america, this is a fact. i think everyone would agree one political coalition benefits from a larger turn out one benefits from a smaller turn out. what's fascinating in this ohio case when you have the individual county boards of elections making county by county policy about early voting and every county board of election has two republicans and two democrats if i'm not mistaken, you basically broke this story, groundbreaking reporting, i thought it was so interesting. in the counties that were very republican the county boards of elections were saying hey let's keep stuff open make it easy for people to vote. the democrats on the county board went along with it because

as a matter of principle their pro. in the counties that were heavily democratic the republicans on those county boards said nope, no, too expensive or whatever and that's why we've had this. >> the back story of this is that ohio obviously had extremely long lines on election day 2004, up to 3% of voters didn't vote. that was larger than the margin of victory that president bush won. so ohio expanded early voting drastically in the 2008 election, a lot of people used it, it was very convenient. in 2010 when republicans took over the legislature they cutback on early voting drastically from 35 days to 11 and banned it on sunday before the election. then that was so unpopular there was a huge drive to create a referendum on this law. it was subsequently repealed they repealed their own law except they banned early voting still on three days before the election. county boards had some discretion in terms how they

could implement the early voting hours now that the law was back in their hands. then what happened is you saw this dead locking. republicans were never against early voting until something that democrats started using. even you look at these people that were suspended in toledo, in the montgomery county board of elections, democrats refused to go along with it they were suspended. those republicans were for early voting in 2011. they reverse this year. so there's so much inconsistency with the republican position. >> obama, the republican campaign sued -- there's two issues in ohio. early voting and what that will look like three days before the election. actually just as a matter of disclosure my wife is an ex-white house staffer. >> they wanted to equalize how early voting happened for military voters but they wanted it to be for everyone. >> we've been more or less cursing the dark horse. i want to light a candle about

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we're talking about voter disenfranchisement, voter suppression and making sure there's access to the right to vote and the underlying fundamental things is one political coalition has an overriding interest in marginal voters voting and the other is making sure marginal voters don't vote. pence has become, i would say, the place where this seems, where the battle is the most intense and partly because of the stakes the number we gave at the top an estimate of 760,000 eligible voters that lack the

kinds of i.d. necessary. there's this amazing moment it got a lot of play on this network. but i think it's worth showing, the kind of mask falls off for a second in talk being about what the rationale is. this is state representative from pence talking about what voter i.d. will allow to happen in pennsylvania. take a look. >> voter i.d. which will allow governor romney to win the state of pence done. >> done. so that's what is on the table right now. the court ruled and judy you're a lawyer on this case, advance project from aclu brought the case. you lost the ruling this week. >> that's right. >> you're appealing to the state supreme court. >> yes. >> i think you have a good case. what do i know. i'm not a lawyer. but, i want to talk to you and i want to bring in our representative, democratic

congressman from pence, second congressional district. good morning, congressman. >> good morning. good morning to you and to the panel. >> great to have you. i want to hear from judy and the congressman. let's say the state supreme court follows the lower court's lead here, upholds the voter i.d. law, what is the next step? congressman, what is happening among your constituents in your district, among democrats and other folks in pence to deal with this ruling? >> well, you know, there's going to be an election on the first tuesday in november and, you know, the court offers a complaint window and, you know, we had an argument in commonwealth court. there will be continuing arguments in the state supreme court. the election officer claims we'll focus on winning this election, getting through whatever the hurdles are and obstacles are to make sure every single person who wants to cast a vote can. previous generations had to fight for the right to vote. people have died.

people went to jail. and, you know, we don't really see any excuse, we have to fight this battle and win not with standing the best efforts of our opposition. the republicans have clearly been engaged in this activity for a long time. this is a broader scale. but, you know, usually it's ballot protection schemes on election day. but now they've decided to use these voter i.d. laws. we can't argue while there's some problem with i.d. and the public listening in this morning should know most people don't have a problem with having some form of i.d. the issue here is the state prescribed a form of i.d. that's very specific and most of the case would be very difficult for many people to get in the categories that we're talking about, the elderly and the young and then disenfranchise groups of people in our state. >> i want to give an example of just that because we have somebody, a page on our staff got a letter from the department

of state. there are many forms of acceptable photo i.d.s but every i.d. must have a current expiration date. elsewhere in the letter it says a student i.d. is valid but a bucknell i.d. doesn't have an expiration. you say i have a student i.d. and our page in question voted the last time around as a bucknell student. and you can read that very easily and then say -- when you think about okay what's the theory of the case here about the voter fraud that's happening? right? like there is someone going around collecting old bucknell i.d.s because they know -- that's the theory of the case. there's some systemic effort to go around collecting old buck net i.d.s because they don't have an expiration date, finding students that look approximately like the people in the i.d.s and then organizing them, giving them those i.d.s and sending them off to the polls. >> for the second time. >> it only works if they vote

once. >> one of the important things that we have to lift up in this conversation is while there is all this evidence that this is actually a partisan attack and trying to influence the outcome of an election it does hurt everybody because there will be people who will choose to vote republican, who will be prevented from voting. think about this category. 18 to 24-year-olds, so for many of them, perhaps the first time they've had the opportunity to vote, we don't know who they will vote for. what we're saying is we'll make it very difficult four. we don't care who you are going to vote for. >> maybe they are angry about the failed stimulus. >> this is an attack -- we'll talk -- but this is an attack, actually an attack on who gets to say who leads our country. >> that's a good point. >> one of those cases where we have evidence of voter suppression for political gain, right? it's clear from the statement. this is what we call us lawyers

who do trial cases the smoking gun evidence, the perry mason moment. unfortunately it didn't make a dumps. >> did you cite that in the brief? >> yes. it was discussed in the opinion. he acknowledged it and acknowledged it was a rob. however he didn't think it was thuf. >> congressman -- >> chris what was worse in the stipulation at the beginning of the case the state stipulates that there absolutely has never been any case of in person voter fraud or investigating or suspecting any. this is a problem, this is a solution in perch of a problem but no with standing that, we have to make sure we get people registered, that they get the proper i.d. under whatever the law is, and we have to win pennsylvania because they have a political agenda but not with standing that we have a background of these efforts in the past that we can't allow it to be successful. >> congressman, i want to talk about that.

when you -- my brother is an organizer, my dad was an organizer, i worked as an organizer a little bit. when you say oh, the organizing task of getting 760,000 people identification in 79 days that's a tough one. i want to talk about whether that can to be done and if it has to be done how it might go about getting done after the break. why not take a day to explore your own backyard? with two times the points on travel, you may find yourself asking why not, a lot. chase sapphire preferred. there's more to enjoy. until i show them this. the new oral-b pro-health clinical brush. its pro-flex sides adjust to teeth and gums for a better clean. the new pro-health clinical brush from oral-b.

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there are some new regulations introduced that will further battle this rampant voter fahd. for instance if you want to vote you'll be matched against this, okay. [ laughter ] you'll have to fall in the nonvoter fraud color range, somewhere between venetian dream and toasted meringue over here. >> congressman, the question i left before the break is what does an effort to get 760,000

people i.d. look like? is that happening? is there evidence of that happening? is there organizing happening on the ground to make that happen should the state supreme court uphold the lower court's decision? >> without a doubt. we have been working for months to prepare an effort that will have the capacity to reach and to assist people who want to be able to have the right to register and to vote. at the heart of this is you have to correlate between the driver's license list, what we would call the pennsylvania department of transportation list and voter registration list and figure out who doesn't have the proper form under the new state law of i.d. in the system to get it. for those born in the state, they don't have to produce a birth certificate, for those born out of the state that's where the real challenge comes in is assessing out of state birth certificates, particularly for people who are elderly in states in which those records might be difficult to acquire,

but we're putting together the networks necessary with elected officials in those other states to assist us. we're not going to be stymied in this effort. we've come much too far and there's been efforts throughout the history of the country to deny people to franchise whether women, young people, african-americans and we'll overcome it and this is a, you know, the republican party has lost its way. it's morally now by putting its principles aside really is just a conspiracy to steal power and it's outrageous but we have to put the outrage to the side and focus on getting the work done. >> one of the lead plaintiffs, she has managed to get i.d., she's holding her i.d. i've moved from chicago to washington and washington to new york and whenever you're in a situation where you have to get a new driver's license you go on

your calendar and x out three or four days because that is a situation. i got to get my bitter certificate. >> going to be a herculean effort to get these i.d.s. the state of pennsylvania is not prepared to implement this law. they've only hid funds for 700,000 i.d.s even though the department of transportation ten timeses many voters don't have state issued i.d.s. i was looking at a report saying there are 71 penn dot offices in pennsylvania counties but 13 were open only one day a week. nine counties don't have an office. obtaining this i.d. for 750,000 voters -- >> it's the responsibility of the state to provide these free i.d.s, not the problems built of organizing of unions and others

to do this. the big problem is while the congressman talked about we fought this before, you know, miss applewhite said to me the last time i saw her she can't believe we're going back. that she's somebody she said you know as an african-american women, 93 years old, she said she's been voting since we could. and so here she is going back. right? she got an i.d. but there are 768,590 more people that need to get the i.d. and they are not ready. >> this just isn't pennsylvania. texas, one-third of counties don't have a dmv office in them. >> they closed them because of budget cuts. >> this is the other conundrum. in the same conversations in these states where we're talking about needing, to you know, get people these kinds of voter i.d.s because we're committed to helping them vote are the same states saying we're going to cut -- we shouldn't have so many state employees.

now we can't -- so, we in fact government shouldn't be so big. on one level -- >> it will increase it. >> on one level we're saying we'll make it necessary to have much bigger government because we're going to make it more difficult for people to vote at the same time we'll say oh, we don't want government. >> a day after the pennsylvania ruling, pennsylvania dropped efforts to allow you to get an absentee ballot online and to register to vote online. they restricted the right to vote and dropped provisions to make it easier. >> i want to make just this point, it really puts in stark relief what an amazing piece of legislation the voting rights act was. so we have this one example which is in florida while all this is happening, in florida where you're under the rubric of voting acts jurisprudence, the voting acts, three judge panel

of federal judges said you can't cut the hours. the genius in voting rights is that the mechanisms used to suppress the vote that cause the voting rights act were facially race neutral. a poll tax or literacy t isn't about what you look like. when you're in the world of vote are acts right jurisprudence -- >> you can use disparrist. >> congressman? >> using section two of the voting rights they to be preclard pinpoint to escalate my colleagues in florida for the fight. even though government i.d.s is person limited for voting purposes, a school district employee, an outrage we have 501 school districts can't use that i.d. at all. same in texas where you can use a concealed weapons permit but

not a state i.d. from a state university. these laws are particularly focused on a political result the same people who don't want people educated or don't want women to have opportunities in terms of health care and preventative care. it's a big issue. >> democratic congressman from pennsylvania and our contributor. thanks so much. we'll continue to track this. the massive constituency ignored by the campaigns when we get back. it's time to live wider awake. only the beautyrest recharge sleep system combines the comfort of aircool memory foam

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all right. this week the campaign turned largely into a conversation around cuts to medicare with the bizarre through the looking glass muddying of the waters about who supports cuts to medicare and who doesn't. rather than a sober discussion about spending and deficits that many thought would be precipitated by the addition of paul ryan the romney campaign spent the week emphasizing the

spending cuts they advocate would not go to the politically powerful constituencies that are at the core of their base. here's ryan campaigning yesterday with his mother at the villages, a retirement community in florida. >> like a lot of americans, when i think about medicare it's not just a program, it's not just a bunch of numbers, it's what my mom relies on. it's what my grandma had. how many of you are 55 or older? wow. okay. okay. how many of you are not? all right. our solution to preserve, protect and save medicare does not affect your benefits. let me repeat that. our plan does not affect the benefits for people who are in

or near retirement. >> let me just say, important fact. not true. part of the ryan budget is repealing at any time affordable care act which closes the doughnut hole. i'm off the prompter now. i just have to respond to this. repealing the affordable care act which would presumably repair the doughnut hole. those folks, people we'll talk about this, a lot of them will rely on medicaid for long term care. >> also, his plan would create a death spiral in medicare. assuming you live beyond age 65 once those other people come in it's going to start to eat away. >> let me say this. the politics of like, guys, we're not screwing you. anyway the irony while the

medicare plan is the most shocking of ryan's budget is services that benefit the poor, a constituency with far, far less political power than the retirees in that senior center in florida. it's calculated that 62% of the cuts from the ryan plan come from programs that help the poor. 62%. medicaid would be cut by 1.4 trillion often years a third of the entire budget effective immediately. food stamps would be cut by $133 billion thing on people off the program and additional $754 billion in cuts that benefit to the poor that ryan doesn't spell out. he took to the stump to attack obama not only on medicare but on poverty. >> nearly one out of six americans are living in poverty today as a result of these policies. that's unacceptable.

we want the american idea of opportunity, of upward mobility of getting people back on the ladder of life so they can cap their potential. >> joining me now is the author of a fantastic, absolute new book all of you watching right now go to amazon, order it go, to your local book store," the new new deal." this is so key. we're having this conversation about medicare. the constituency that benefits from medicare is politically powerful and we said at the top of the show there's a relationship between the top of the show and second part of the show. the folks who are not vote, the folks in that want 43%, 13% polling that was done, a lot of the folks are poor folks. and they are the ones who are getting their ox gored. the medicare part is the best thought out part of the ryan plan. the things for the poor are just

like -- >> one point to add is it's also a fast growing demographic because for the past three years the poverty rate in this country has been increasing. that's for a lot of reasons inclutding the fact that we're still struggling to create living wage jobs in this economy. so one of the thing we have to recognize is it's also the trend. and that percentage of people is getting bigger and bigger and bigger not smaller. >> i know you touched on this. the point can't be made those people sitting in that community center in florida, a huge percent of them will end up on medicaid when they go into nursing homes. what happens -- >> you think cutting medicate won't affect you. >> it will. the dirty little secret a lot of those people end up on medicaid once they exholocaust their assets. >> not to mention the fastest growing demographic in this country is young people. so to say all of you who are under 55, you will have your

benefits impacted and you will need them. >> the other thing about the medicaid block granting if you block grant the states and have fixed pool of money it will be about well who gets that pool of money. and there's different constituencies. there's poor folks and folks in long term care. and i can tell you, i can predict where the distribution of those benefits will tend to go based on who has political power. michael, you write about in "the new new deal," you write aspects about the recovery act. respond to the invocation of the poverty level by paul ryan due to these policies we'll talk to someone who has gone through, who has lived through firsthand the great recession and what i want means to enter the ranks of those on medicaid. after we take a break. t rewards of any small business credit card!

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untalked about part of the social contract right now in the campaign which are poor americans and poverty rates increase. the only people talk about the poverty rate increase are republicans because they can use it as a talking point to attack the president. ironically or not the budget they are proposing would really be savage on the poor. could we talk about the president's record on this, michael? i feel like one of the things that got lost and so many things got lost by the recovery act as i learned from your book were the quite substantial investments made in folks who were struggling through poverty in the wake of the financial crisis. >> absolutely. i can bore you with some statistics. >> please. >> all right. you've come to the right place. just the safety net, direct spending on things like unemployment benefits, food

stamps, the expanded earned income tax credit for the working poor that directly lifted 7 million people out of poverty and made essentially 32 million poor people less poor. you also had the first real reforms of the unemployment insurance system since it was set up in the new deal when it was a set up for a male workforce and now there was $7 billion in incentives for states to expand it to part time workers, to spouses who have to leave their job because their spouse relocates. essentially that's for a modern economy and 31 states have adopted that. there's a homelessness prevention program that had like $20 million in 2008. they gave it $1.5 billion. entirely new way of addressing the problem and it took 1.2 million people that would have benton streets and helped them out. it hadn't been for that homelessness would have doubled. >> why don't we know that?

seriously? why am i learning it now? >> the first is because my book has not become a runaway best seller. >> we're working on it, america. >> look. it was partly i do describe this really remarkably relentless republican campaign of distortion. you've had a really incompetent democratic messaging. you've had a media that just really screwed the story. and finally, you have the sort of unavoidable problem of this is a jobs bill that was passed while jobs were hemorrhaging. we lost 800,000 jobs in '09. >> you have one more issue, though. sam. >> i was going add it didn't help that president obama turned towards austerity so quickly after this because then how do you tout the success of those programs if you repudiate the idea that the government should be spending money. >> three points, jobs, jobs,

jobs. this is what i think complicates the conversation, i think mike is absolutely right. it prevented jobs from leading the economy and that's a difficult thing to articulate and identify. it was a huge and necessary benefit and we're not able to calculate it. the second jobs is it created some jobs of up to 1.2 million. there's some debate about how many because the cbo said in the first quarter of 2012 it was 200,000 to 1.2 million. pinpointing the actual number of jobs either that we didn't lose or that we, or that we grew has been so difficult that it's made it an easier target. >> all the things you ticked off why don't i know about the homelessness. do i this for a living. i didn't know it until i read your book. i should know, i'm a reporter. that's partly on me as well. part of it is there is no -- it

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i want to bring in tanya wells. both she and her husband lost their jobs in 2008. their family survives student loans, medicaid and food stps three programs targeted by the ryan plan. i want to ask you, how as you're watching the campaign unfold, how are you perceiving it? do you feel that the issues you're facing day-to-day are being addressed and do you have

feelings about either of the candidates? >> well, it is extremely scary experiencing what is going on right now. i have until november to try to reorganize my life plans because i don't know which way this is going to go. and we're talking about my family. we're talking about my, my dependency on the system to keep us afloat. and it is in serious, serious jeopardy right now and that is a very scary thought to live with every single day. my thoughts on the candidates, president obama what he did at the beginning of the recession is what kept my family alive. essentially. i played all my cards right before the recession. we had jobs. we were making good money. we were your average middle class family. living comfortably. all of a sudden the rug got pulled out from under us and we

are along with the rest of the people from the middle class and we are now poor. we're poor. and the president helped keep us afloat with the changes he made. >> when you say the rug was pulled out from under you, what are you -- my understanding is that you hadn't -- you hadn't used medicaid now you're relying on those programs, correct? >> correct. our household income was right around $100,000 a year. so we were fairly comfortable. after the recession our household is now around $18,000 a year. so if that gives you and idea of the severity of the matter. it's pretty severe and scary. >> i want to play a clip for you because when we have debates about programs like student loans which i believe you're federally subsidized student loans. >> correct. >> medicaid which you're now

qualified for and i want to play a clip from congressman paul ryan talking about the dangers of a safety net that gives too much to people that are struggling. take a listen. >> okay. >> what you have is a government, a plan that turns this safety net into a hammock that lulls people into complacency. >> i want to hear your response. do you feel that medicaid and food stamps and student loans are demeaning to you? do you think it would be more demeaning -- less demeaning and you would have more dignity if those were cut? >> that is an absolutely ridiculous statement right there. those programs are an extreme help to a lot of people. i'm not the only one in this situation. i'm sure there are thousands if not millions of americans in the exact same situation as me we

never wanted to depend on the system, we don't like depending on the system. we want to get off the system. i developed the plan for my family. i took it on as a project management task and i strategically figured out well what will give me the longest lasting security. i can have temporary fixes, i have long term fixes. so what do i need to do? what does my family need do in order to make sure we get to the best option available to us? we qualified for unemployment when we lost our jobs. but unfortunately unemployment end the second you decide to go back to school. so that's one of the things. >> please continue. >> so, that's one of the things we had to decide. okay we can stay on unemployment which was far more than what we're getting with food stamps

and student loans and pell grants, but at that point we're creating a temporary fix. do we want a temporary fix for our family or do we want a permanent fix. >> you have to make that decision between getting -- saying good-bye to unemployment which is providing with you very needed income in order to go back to school because that's an investment in long term building skills you think can help you get a job for the future. >> precisely. and we wanted to secure our finances. we wanted to make sure that we picked what was going to cause the most stability for our family and going back to school was going to be that. before we were in two industries that were extremely severely hit by the recession. my husbanding worked with the sheet metal union and i was working in logistics. those two industries totally disappeared during the recession. we knew there was no stability. before that we didn't even buy a house because we knew those industries were very, very, very

much on the rocks at all times. there was no security in them. >> tanya, i want to talk about how the experience you've had has changed the way you think about politics, the way you think about the candidate, about the campaign. we're going take a break and talk about that with the panel when we come back. >> okay. germ party! eww! now the colgate total mouth. nice! [ female announcer ] colgate total fights 90% more plaque germs. i'm in. [ female announcer ] colgate total. less germs. healthier mouth.

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hello from new york. i'm chris hayes. maya wiley, and michael grunwald. i also have via satellite tanya wells. tanya, you were saying earlier in the program that you had a household income of six figures,

both you and your husband lost your jobs in the wake of financial crisis in the great recession, trying to get back on your feet, you're going to school, your family income is down to $18,000. i asked you before you went to break to talk about how this has affected the way you think about politics, the way you think about the world, the way you think about american society. what do you know now? what do you think about now that you didn't when you were making $100,000 a year? >> well, i figured out that there's a whole invisible civilization that you really don't see until you hit rock bottom and you're at their level with them. there is a completely different world down here that most people don't know about. i think that's why i decided to come and be on the show because there's so many people out there just like me and most people that are nice and comfortable don't even realize how much of a struggle it is every day to live in these conditions.

and hearing constant battles on politics, about getting rid of programs that we depend on, it's sad and the way they manage to turn the stereotype on people that actually pulled from the system that they paid into -- i paid into the system for more than 16 years. i made more than enough money that completely makes up for what i'm pulling right now. i'm at a time in need. i'm asking for help. i received the help that i paid into. and there's a big stigma on the people that do receive help, that they are lazy, they are moochers. that's not the case. i've worked very hard since i was 15 years old. i worked straight and paid into the system the whole entire time. this is the first time i'm drawing from it. why? because it's an absolute necessity to my family. we got hit very hard and this is

our chance to make some changes to our lives and create some stability for ourselves once again. we'll be there. we'll payback into the system afterwards as well. >> maya. >> one of the dirty little secrets here is that many, many people who need these kinds of safety net programs work. they work. the truth is there's 48 million americans in this country today who are hungry. and 40% of them are working now. so there's this kind of myth that safety net systems are for lazy people, the paul ryan statement is actually undermining to the actual -- you know good laws are based on facts not fiction. >> this is a hammock that lulls people. this is a lifeline for people and tanya's story is the story of millions of americans. but unfortunately our perception in this country of poor people, it has an actual, we can like see them. we see them as people of color.

we see them about people that we don't know, that we don't want to deal with but the lazy people who are sitting around housing projects when in fact even the people who are luiving in publi housing who are working class folks who are struggling every day. >> tanya, in terms of how this has affected the way you think about politics, my understanding is that you didn't vote in 2008, right? >> i did not vote. i was not very active in politics whatsoever. it took that life change for me to get involved with politics and now i stay on it, of course, because my life depends on it at this moment. because i keep up with politics. i am very active with politics. and i'm totally happy with all the changes and the support that the poor people of america are receiving from president obama at this time. i have to thank president obama for helping my family as much as he did when we needed it the most.

>> you have a child in the prescription that costs almost $300 a month and that's paid for through medicaid. if there were medicaid cuts that started after the new congress that conceivably that would impact you quite directly? >> yep. most definitely. that is a very scary experience. when you're sitting at a doctor's office and you find out that your child needs this expensive medication, and you think well if i put my child on this medication will i be able to afford it if something happens to this program and i no longer have access to it. what am i going to do then because that is a big chunk of money to try to come up with to make sure that your child gets the medication that she needs. >> tanya, you may have answered this question already but from your perspective is it the inability to draw on aid programs while you're going to or unemployment while you're going to school, is that the biggest obstacle you have in

terms of facilitating this plan you have for your family? >> well, my plan is going good. i realized how many cuts i had to make. i've reduced every single penny that i had to from our budget in order to make this work. we figured that all out ahead of time before we even embarked on this quest. but if we would have been able to maintain our, we were receiving the maximum levels for unemployment, if we would have been able to maintain that unemployment insurance while in school, that would have been a tremendous help. we wouldn't even have to get food stamps at that point because woe have been able to afford everything on our own. we actually qualified -- >> i'm sorry i didn't mean to cut you off. >> we actually qualified for a lot more services, our benefits but we don't draw for them. we take what we need and we leave the rest for other needy people because we realize there's people that are in far

worse conditions than we are. we take what we need. >> can i make a mere argument when paul ryan is talking about incentives do matter. if you have a system incentivizing people not to get more education because they will turn away income support that comes from unemployment that's a bad system. that's doing precisely the thing that paul ryan alleges it's doing in an ironically way, incentivizing people not to do the right thing. >> let's be fair. let's be fair. both republicans and democrats have made this very difficult for people to have jobs in the long term 21st century economy because the clinton administration which brought about welfare reform, what we called welfare reform in the early '90s actually allowed states to kick people out of college and force home to sweep

streets in order to hold on the their welfare benefits. new york city alone, 27,000 people got pushed out of the system because they were forced to go and do menial labor instead of staying out of the safety net programs to give them the credentials they needed to stay in the labor market. what eve seen post-recession there are jobs, but the jobs are for people like us sitting around this table who have graduate degrees. so we're much -- well okay, you can go back. a bachelor's. the point is education pays. education helps keep people stay in the economy and we're not actually supporting people to do that. >> one of the perverse things here, we've talked a lot about welfare reform, the way performance has been judged less people are on the role, but

people are still super poor. in 1996, 68% of families with children living in poverty who qualified received. by 2010, 27% people receive. it's not that there's less poor people. there's more poor people, less people drawing benefits. that's the gap between those two, the people who are poor and people on benefits that's not a success story that's a failure of social policy. >> this gets back to politics. no one expects for poor folks to be engaged in our political storm and therefore we can do anything to them and poor children. we haven't talked about the impact on children. these are families. and the idea is that they are not going to vote. they are not going participate. they have no political capital. >> here's polling for the two candidates among those making less than $50,000 a year. less than $50,000 a year, 57% lean obama, 38% lean romney.

again, there are huge -- there's a huge division in our politics how these political coalitions work. >> that is the ryan budget, right? it's simply, we're essentially going to just make these programs smaller. we won't solve any problems we'll throw more people off of these programs. that's it. there's no solution there. >> it also comes back to the voter i.d. laws. when you are working two jobs and you're working 18, 20 hours and you're still not able to pay for food at the end of the month and then you're told in the state of pennsylvania to drive 45 miles and you may not even have a car or be able to afford to pay for gas in the tank and take a day off from work because you may not earn wages when you take that day off. >> here's the thing -- >> tanya, please. >> here's one of the things, if you want to bring america back you have to focus on the middle

class. the middle class is struggling. we're now the poor class. you have to get us back up to that level so we can start hemg out to get this country back on track. one of the things you have to do is invest in the people. the people are like people like me. the people who are doing what is right. who are doing what we need to in order to get back on track. we thought about what we needed to do for education. we thought about the best careers. unfortunately there are a lot of people in the system that i have met now that don't have the ability to make a life plan, as elaborate as the one i created for myself and i try to help them but it would be a lot better if the government would try to help these people create a real life plan. help them go the schools that aren't going to rip them off. help them figure out what they have to do for long term slugs. they need help with food in the meantime while they are trying to get themselves on track. all these things are things that are being addressed and it's so important for the middle class

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all right. you probably have heard about this this week that republican vice presidential candidate paul ryan was forced to back pedal from a glaring bit of hypocrisy after it was revealed he sought millions of dollars in stimulus funds for his district despite publicly repeatedly denouncing the 2009 recovery act as a wastefulful spending spree.

ryan has forcefully danced the underlying basic concept of keynesian economics the idea during a recession or depression the government can boost economic recovery through spending sometimes deficit spending. here he is in july of 2010 making just that argument. >> too many are searching for answers in the discredited economic playbook of borrow and spend keynesian policies. i reject only government intervention in the government can secure this country's renewed prosperity. adherence to this premise has given us a damaging policy mixture. it has sparked government spending spree and borrowing binge. workers, taxpayers and families across this country have been guinea pigs. washington's economic experiment has failed. >> so, no keynesian, borrow and spend, deficit spending to boost recovery and jobs during a

period of an output gap when you're in a recession that's all bad but conceptually broken. as it turns out paul ryan's request for millions of dollars in recovery spend is only the tip. iceberg when it comes to his hypocrisy on stimulus. we turned up video of ryan in we does far more than advocate for one specific stimulus item but makes a full throated no holds bar argument at length for the basic concept of keynesian stimulus, government spending to create jobs deficit government spending to create jobs. in 2002 with president bush in the white house as the couldn't went through the post-9/11 recession ryan made a powerful una p unapologetic case for business investment but also an extension of unemployment benefits and health insurance benefits. here's a look at some of that video from february 14th, 2002

where congressman congress argued that health insurance is necessary even after economic recovery begin. >> what we're trying to accomplish today is to create jobs and help the unemployed. now i've just recently read in our local capitol hill newspaper that members from the majority party and the other body want stimulus. they are breaking with their party leadership and asking for stimulus legislation to pass because in their home states they have a lot of people who are losing their jobs. what we're trying to accomplish is to pass the kinds of legislation that they passed in the past have grown the economy and gotten people back to work. we want to make it easier for employers to keep people employed. we want to make it easier for employers to invest in their business, to invest in their employees and to hire people back to work. on top of it for those people that lost their jobs we want to

help them with their unemployment insurance and with health insurance. what we're trying to accomplish here is recognition of the fact that in recessions, unemployment lags on even well after recovery has taken place. >> you guys get all that? did you get all that? do you get the full thing there? in the same house session ryan, i should say when he's talking the majority in the house he's talking about senate democrats who are helping president bush pass a stimulus because they think it's the best thing to do even though their partisan interest is to destroy the agenda of the president from the other party. senate democrats went for the stimulus. in the same house session ryan argues, i love this, he argues that those worries about fiscal discipline and deficits, because this is albio roed mon-- this i about fiscal stimulus.

>> we have a lot of laid off workers and more layoffs are occurring. we know as a historical fact that even if our economy begins to slowly recover that unemployment will linger on well after that recovery takes place. what we've been trying to do starting in october then in december and now the to try to get people back to work. things we're trying to passing this bill are the time tested proven bipartisan solutions to get businesses to stop laying off people, to hire people back, and to help those people who have lost their jobs. it's more than just giving someone unemployment check. it's also helping those people with their health insurance while they've lost their jobs and more important than just that unemployment check is to do what we can to give people a paycheck. we've got to get their engine of economic growth growing again because we now know because of the recession we don't have the revenues we wanted to.

we don't have the revenues we need to fix medicare, to fix social security, to fix these issues, we've got to get americans back to work, then the surpluses come back, then the jobs come back, that is the constructive answer we're trying to accomplish here. yes on a bipartisan basis. i urge members to drop the de demogogury and get people back to work. >> who is that guy? >> it gets better. >> where do i get to wear a pin. >> not just a line that line gave in washington. according to wisconsin journal times he goes back to his people in his district he's making the case for keynesian spending in spller times. he says quote you have to spend a little to grow a little. what we're trying to do is stimulate the part of the economy that's on its back.

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before obama took office had decided that essentially anything obama stands for they are going to have to fight. stimulus, you know, paul ryan supported the 2002 bush stimulus, he supported the 2008 bush stimulus. this was not a controversial topic. in 2008 every presidential candidate had a stimulus plan. $250 million, mitt romney stimulus plan. the largest of all of them. and, republicans, you know, the $780 billion obama stimulus which had tax cuts and spending which was tyrannical socialish but there was a republican substitute that was $715 billion of spending and tax cuts that was apparently good public policy. paul ryan voted for that one too. >> paul ryan voted for $75 billion in stimulus?

>> de. there was an interesting argument inside the republican leadership where mike pence side the true ideological kind of conservative said we should yoult new deal democrats but erjake cantors and paul ryan said no we need to do something that, you know our moderates can vote for because the most important thing is to get everybody say yes to so they can say no to obama. paul ryan, of course, fell off both sides of the horse. he vote forward the ideological one and the political one and then trashed the very similar obama one as the death of american free enterprise. >> this goes to show romney and ryan are a match made in heaven. they walk around with etch-a-sketch. we're not seeing these clips on fox news. it's great this hypocrisy has go to be exposed because in fact we have to stimulate the economy through this kind of spending. >> we have to have another until lus. if we're being honest as mike

points out that importance, and also as ryan points out, economists actually when we had the first stimulus were already saying it wasn't big enough. you can't plug a hole of a $1.3 trillion deficit with $700 billion bailout and -- >> not bailout. >> it was a bailout. >> let's make sure. a large part of americans think those two things are the same. >> the pointing the conversation we should be having is the same conversation now. it go to this. when we talk about the recovery act and here's the bizarre thing. first thing this president does signs the lillian ledbetter extension. that happens before the recovery. first major piece of policy. you never hear about the recovery act from anyone. republicans decided it was

tyrannical socialism. democrats abandoned it. the only time democrats and liberal, people that talk about the recovery act is this debate of it should have been bigger. that's bizarre. what your book has convinced me that didn't matter that much, even if it was an extra $200 bill lower or $300 billion it wouldn't have made a difference of where we are now. >> it goies to your guest who ws on food stamps. in the fourth quarter of 2008 gdp fell at a 9% annual rate. that's a depression. at that rate we would have lost an entire canadian economy in 2009. in january 2009 we lost 800,000 jobs. then we pass the stimulus. next quarter had the biggest improvement in jobs 30i7b years b -- in 30 years and that was still terrible. like you said, you have 8

million job hole and this was a 3 million job solution. there was no stimulus. >> in the book you're pretty tough on liberals. >> that's right. >> you make the case that liberals didn't defend -- that they should have stood with the law and defended the policy, defended the legislation. sam seder, you're a liberal. why didn't you defend it in >> it was not big enough. the question is whether could it have been bigger is debatable. >> not debatable. >> look even if i stipulate that it could not have been bigger in any way although we mentioned how the republicans had already voted for one, $750 billion. even if i stipulate that the president should have made it clear this is not enough because there were people saying

contemple possibco contemporaneously saying you'll get a second bite is fantastic. the president should have said at that time and he didn't because he didn't believe it or his advisors this will not be substantial enough we have to do this again unless we're really lucky. >> i want you to respond to that. first let's take a break. se thet with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. that's why my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorption. that's why my doctor recommends citracal maximum. i wish i could keep it this way. [ dr. rahmany ] you see, even after a dental cleaning... plaque quickly starts to grow back. but new crest pro-health clinical plaque control toothpaste can help. it not only reduces plaque... it's also clinically proven... to help keep plaque from coming back. plus, it works in these other areas dentists check most. ♪ new crest pro-health clinical plaque control toothpaste. life opens up when you do. for extra plaque protection try new crest pro-health clinical rinse.

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first. this idea that obama went down and should have been bigger. that's just wrong. you know, i interviewed the people who are in the room, and, you know, you got to remember just a few months earlier the senate reject ad $50 billion stimulus. $800 billion was a pretty big step and the three republicans whose votes were needed said absolutely no more than 800 billion. so did half a dozen centrist democrats. if the congressman from alaska didn't go along bills that don't pass don't make change. but should he have been more, this is just a start. we'll need more rather than this is a great triumph. i would make a few points which is first of all he did get another $700 billion of stimulus over the next two years, very quietly. wasn't easy with republicans fighting unemployment benefits.

tax cuts. extensions of some of the stuff that was in the recovery act. and, again, we had republicans even fighting small business tax hikes. not an easy list. he did get it. that said do i think there are some questions about whether the bully pulpit of obama coming up and saying we need more stimulus, the history of the obama administration is that him making a full throated, you know, defense of something does not necessarily mean that that's going to help the legislative get through congress. it create as target. >> the point is not whether or not that's necessarily going to bring about results. we can't say it will change 2010. could it have. maybe the democrats aren't down 25 seats. who knows. for two years the president attacked austerity in a way that will have implications down the road. i mean when people argue that government is not like a family, all it takes is somebody to say

is that not what the president told. >> this is an important point opini. people thought of obama as a big talker and that's what makes him so great. he's more of a deeds guy. people are disappointed with his rhetoric. my position is global warming. it kills me he doesn't talk about global warming but done more than anybody else about global warming with $90 billion for clean energy. same with keynesian economics. he said by the fall of 2009 he said i get the keynesian thing but it's not where the electorate is. i won't keep talking about it. what he did -- >> this is arguing against it. >> there's a difference between not going out there and espousing keynesian and going

out to say we need to fight keynesian. >> there's been no short term austerity. there's this fiscal cliff. >> which is huge. a big thing. >> you want to bet whether it happens? sitting there in 2013 and it's a big deal. no short term austerity. >> this is an important point. the battles that have happened with boehner and the house, boehner you can make a good case got rolled in terms of short term. the big question, the can has been kicked down the road numerous times and the question whether they will pick up the can this time when they kicked it before is the question. here, i want to talk about not just about the politics. this is the conversation you get a lot. then it's like okay what did the recovery act do? i want to talk about that. we talk about it as this thing. he should have defended it more. $800 billion. what was in there. let's find out after this. okay, here's the plan. you have a plan? first we're gonna check our bags for free,

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michael, so the recovery act gets talked about in kind of the abstract and one of the things that's such a service about this book and i learn so much from is going through that $800 billion was a lot of money. april lot were tax cuts. it was quite beneficial for people and didn't give the obama administration a lot of credit because they choose to immediately start implementing it in people's paychecks so the majority of americans didn't realize their taxes were cut. what's in there that people should know about that they don't that's had some kind of concrete lasting impact on the country. >> because a lot of it was this sort of standard keynesian stimulus that paul ryan loves so much, the largest middle class tax cut since reagan, food stamps and unemployment benefits and other aid to victims of the great recession and very important aid to states so that they don't have to layoff hundreds and thousands of cops and teachers. >> as soon as that was done we

saw layoffs in states. >> of course it would have been worse which makes a lousy bumper sticker but it's true. but what's really interesting and nobody realizes about the recovery act is it's called the american recovery and reinvestment act and there was this long term reinvestment. this was sort of the trojan horse by what obama meant by change. we talked during the campaign about energy, education, health care and restructuring the economy and this is where you have $90 billion for clean energy when we have been spending a few billion dollars a year when solar and geothermal. >> that's that had an effect. i'm focused on global change. has that had an effect in actually where we get our energy from if >> we've doubled our renewables in this country. in 2008 we were dead in the water. we started to build a smart grid. we got a domestic battery industry for electric vehicles. we had $25 billion worth of

investments in energy efficiency which will not only create jobs for the guys with caulk guns but reduces our emissions, reduces our dependence on foreign petro thugs. reduces what taxpayers have to pay on our energy bills. it's good all around. you've had just unprecedented investments advanced biofuels. you got the world's largest wind farm. half of the world's largest solar farms. this is from the recovery act and starting to begin our transition to a low carbon economy. of course anybody here, solyndra which was 1% of the loan portfolio. >> so this is a really important point because one aspect of the recovery act was also to envision an economy that would be growing over a long period of time. it wasn't just short term fixes, it's one of the aspects of recovery that i think is not sufficient credit for and i actually agree with mike we really have to tout the

importance of this recovery act and what it's meant to the economy and people. here's the thing. here's the thing. take renewables. absolutely important. fastest growing demographics in this country is the south, southwest, particularly southern california. also predominantly communities of color. very little of this money actually went to local scale renewable projects in communities that are experiencing depression. 15% unemployment not 8%. nationally for black population alone 13% for latino. these are solutions that communities have been trying to get that can't get the stimulus dollars to invest. same is true of broadband. >> anybody of any color can put a solar panel on their roof and that's increased 600% during the recovery act. you look at some of the other spending on things like health information technology, by 2015 we'll all have electronic medical records regardless of where we are in spectrum.

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♪ just what we should know for the week ahead. first a clarification on the story we did yesterday. we were discussing cuts to medicare providers and neglected it included some concrete briefs for current medicare recipients. if it was repeeled as romney and

ryan favors the gap for medicare recipients would re-emerge. julian assange thanked supporters and staff at the embassy where he's been holed up for two months. he said president obama should quote do the righaassange calle america to release private bradley manning. and that president obama should do the right thing. and what should you foreign the week? know that republican vice presidential candidate paul ryan considers his vote for the iraq war foreign policy experience. and fox news asked ryan about "the deficit in the ryan portfolio foreign policy. here is how ryan responded. >> the way i would say about foreign policy, i've been in congress for a number of years, more experience than barack obama had when he came into office. now, i've voted to send people to war. >> i voted to send to people to war. >> he included the scott dick dax, costing u.s. taxpayers and

the death of 4,486 american soldiers and some estimates, at least 100,000 -- 100,000 iraqis. rubber stamping a war does make you qualified to avoid them. and you should know jon corzine probably won't face criminal charges for overseeing mf global, which managed to lose about $1 billion without any particularly convincing explanation as to where it went. the federal investigation into the bankrupt firm is winding down with no prosecutions expected, and get this according to "the new york times," "mr. corzine, a bid to rebuild his image and engage his passion for trading, weighing whether to start a hedge fund. according to people with knowledge of his plans. "post bailout wall street is the definitive that there are no second acts in american lives. there are more second than you can count. if every mesh in america voted,

president obama would breeze to re-election. according to a survey, the president leads governor romney by a stunning margin of 43-14 of the nearly 40% of meshes that are eligible to vote but are unlikely to do so. you should know that among this constituency of the politically disengaged, the president has a 55% favorability rating compared to 35% unfavorability. you should know that the republican party understand very well that the smaller the electorate, the fewer people who vote, the more likely they are to win. should know the census will be releasing indepth poverty figures on september 12th. those figures expect to show that poverty rating nearing 15%, more thanes in poverty at any time than 1965. all of the taxi of the ryan budget focuses on medicare, most savage and cruel in cuts to the

poor. and according to the senate for budget and policy priorities, fully 62% of the ryan budget cuts come from programs for the poor and despite that fact, poverty almost entirely absent as a topic of the presidential campaign if you want to stay up to date on the politics and poverties of policy, read "this week in poverty" dispah at the nation.com. for the week, we'll begin with you, sam. >> a couple of weeks ago "the new york times" reported president obama was support yet that democrats weren't getting enough credit for being willing to cut social security and medicare this past week, vice president joe biden said and i quote "i guarantee you, flat guarantee you, no changes in social security. i flat guarantee you, told this to a diner, to a pat ron of of a diner in virginia. the question going forward, people should be watching whether or not president obama attacks romney/ryan for their plans to destroy medicare and, frankly, ryan's plans in the

past to destroy social security, or taxes them as being impediments to a potential grand bargain down the road from my perspective, i hope the president calls ryan/romney out for attacks on medicare and social security and vows to protect medicare and social security. >> maya wiley. >> i'm finally taking my kids on vacation, but besides that. >> that's awesome. >> but one of the things we should know, we're getting the end of the month and that means 46 million americans, half of whom are children, will not have food stamp benefits that are going to support them buying groceries through the end of the month. and that's important to understand when we're having and going to hear more this coming week of this debate over whether we should be cutting programs or not. we should also know there are, because of the -- the pushback on people's ability to vote, that there is a tremendous effort under way in local community in wisconsin, pennsylvania, florida, ohio, to make sure people understand

whether or not they have the right to vote. and if they are -- what they need in order to be able to do that fairly and that's really critical for people to get engaged. and everybody's elected officials are home, which means people should know there are opportunities to go and complain. >> you should know that there are more than 350,000 people in the state of virginia who cannot vote, because of felony convictions. and who have paid their debt to society, done their time, and that governor mcconnell actually has the power to give them automatic restoration and also know that this week we will know that the case on voter fraud, how quickly the supreme court will take up the case. >> last week we found out paul ryan was one of 128 cash and trash republicans who described stimulus as a wasteful spending spree and went and looked for stimulus funds, which struck me as mildly hypocritical.

he also voted for $715 billion stimulus plan almost identical to the obama plan. less green stuff, less money for the arts, less money for americorps, more money for army corps of engineers, but otherwise pretty similar. thank you to my guests, sam seder, maya wiley, judith browne-dianis and michael grunwald from "time," thank you, all. thank you for joining us. we'll be back next weekend, saturday, sunday, 8:00 eastern. our guests, joan walsh from salon.com. a new book called what's the matter with white people, why we long for a golden age that never was, and an incredible must read new essay about race in the obama area, and coming up next, melissa harris-perry. paul ryan was supposed to bring big ideas into focus, how did the dominant story of the week become mitt romney's taxes again. that's melissa harris-perry up

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